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Re: Who Is An Igbo/what Makes Someone An Igbo? by Abagworo(m): 6:34pm On Oct 13, 2012
solomonkane:

Abagworo my brother, let's not get it twisted. We are cousins with Igbo, not Igbo. I have in my possession a dissertation written on the origins of Ukwuani, unfortunately its not online so I cannot provide a link for you. I have spent time translating the oral history of Anioma from bards and elder, none of them have denied kinship with Igbo but they stated without equivocation that we are our own race. Even now, elements of neighbouring Urhobo culture have been assimilated by Aniomas and vice versa hence names like Omene Onome. We are cousins but we deserve to be respected as our own people, not to be subsumed or spat out as mainstream Igbos will.

Have you read the link above written in the 18th century by Europeans in Aboh. All Igbos have influence from their neighbours and also share names with them. It is not peculiar with Delta State. In Abia and Ebonyi, you could find Bassey, Obasi, Imoke, Okpo etc. Those names are shared by Igbos and Cross River people. Same with Enugu where you can find Onoja, Idoko, Omele which they share with Idoma/Igala. Its normal.


From that link I posted, you could as well notice that Benin, Igala and Ijaw people were coming to Aboh to trade. Some of those Benin, Ijaw and Igala people might have settled among the Igbos and consist those families that trace their origin there.
Re: Who Is An Igbo/what Makes Someone An Igbo? by odumchi: 8:41pm On Oct 13, 2012
hardbody:

Nna Odika iwu nwa Aro Okigbo

Iy wo. I kotara ya. Awu m onye Aro. Ndaa kwan ogo gonwo za na Okigbo?
Re: Who Is An Igbo/what Makes Someone An Igbo? by iconaus: 12:06am On Oct 14, 2012
Also Ojukwu is a definition of an ideal igbo man in all ramifications - smart, educated , rich and from rich background and brave .
Re: Who Is An Igbo/what Makes Someone An Igbo? by solomonkane(m): 4:04am On Oct 14, 2012
Ngodigha:

Castrated monkey, when are you gonna stop this stupidity you have been displaying here since yesterday. There is no particular group called Igbo but groups who speak closely related dialects are grouped as Igbo, monkey, why dont you get it. Shameless monkey, are you more Ukwuani than Power Uti the wrestler who till date maintains his proud Igbo stance.
If you are not Igbo, it is accepted, but it will be an outright stupidity to claim that Ukwuanis are not Igbo. Respect your silly head, bastard.



Its obvious that you were sexually assaulted by a leper in your childhood, that would explain the astonishing lack of functional brain cells in that cesspit you call your head. My comments were addressed to a sensible person: Abagworo not an ill-bred, sewer rat like you.

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Re: Who Is An Igbo/what Makes Someone An Igbo? by solomonkane(m): 4:08am On Oct 14, 2012
pazienza:

We have no doubt that there were slaves of hausa and other ethnic origins that were allowed to stay in eboe town at the end of the slave trade. Please do not use our hospitality against us,any time you are tired of being igbo,you can go back to wherever you ancestor came from,it is not our fault that they decided to stay in ukwuani. Thank you.



Another escaped mental patient. SMH
Re: Who Is An Igbo/what Makes Someone An Igbo? by Antivirus92(m): 6:33am On Oct 14, 2012
solomonkane:



Another escaped mental patient. SMH
so everybody is now mentally ill in ur eyes?
Re: Who Is An Igbo/what Makes Someone An Igbo? by solomonkane(m): 9:04am On Oct 14, 2012
Antivirus92: so everybody is now mentally ill in ur eyes?

Not so my brother. My words are directed at the ignoramus I quoted earlier who was calling himself names and the other one who referred to himself as the descendant of a slave. If it seems I insulted everyone, please accept my unreserved apologies. Abagworo and Afam made their points without resorting to insults and I reciprocated.
Re: Who Is An Igbo/what Makes Someone An Igbo? by GentleNaaz(m): 9:48am On Oct 14, 2012
Cn a GOAT claim 2 b a LION? .O buru n'bughi nwa afo, nwanne ibughi ya bu na ibughi ya o. Go fnd ur tradition joor
Re: Who Is An Igbo/what Makes Someone An Igbo? by buchibabe: 10:20am On Oct 14, 2012
pato station: What amazes me and sometimes annoys me is the attitude towards the Igbos by certain 'Igbos' found in Rivers, Bayelsa, Edo and Delta States. How could someone bear Ibo names all through, practice Igbo culture and speak Igbo language as his mother tongue, yet he claims he is not Igbo? To me some of this attitude has to do with the loss of Nigerian civil war by the Biafrans (no one wants to associate with a loser). To me these ones should simply change their names to Kwame, Osama or Mugabe or something else. For crying out loud, there is no Nigerian ethnic group called "Ikwere" or "Delta Ibo"

Dia r no ibos in edo or bayelsa. Get ur facts right
Re: Who Is An Igbo/what Makes Someone An Igbo? by Abagworo(m): 10:33am On Oct 14, 2012
buchibabe:

Dia r no ibos in edo or bayelsa. Get ur facts right

What of Igbanke in Edo?

Igbanke is of the Ika tribe in Africa which constitutes Agbor, and up to the border towns of Alifekede down to Umunede. According to Omoregbe Nwanwene,

“six villages constitute Igbanke: these are Umoluah, Igbontor, Idumodin, Ake, Olije, and Ottah – all migrated from different places.”
It is also the case that the foundation of history of Igbanke indicates poignantly that for many centuries after the different villages of Igbanke had been founded, the Igbankes enjoyed absolute independence because they were not vassals of any other people. The name Igbanke arose from a combination of (the names of) two villages: Igbontor and Ake, after a thorough historical supremacy was established.

The government of Igbanke is presided over by the Eze, Enogies, Odioweres, Ndichies, Dikens, Okhiolors, and Okhialis. Each of these heads has his jurisdiction The jurisdiction could be stratified into three: The family level, the clan or hamlets and the villages. At the family level, the Okhilor (he is usually the oldest man in the family) presides. At the village quarters, the Okhilor is the head, while the Eze rules over the entire village. Igbanke is chiefly a patrilineal society and as such its women are seen as performing passive roles. The language spoken in Igbanke is Ika: It is a mixture of Delta Ibo and Oredo languages. Given that Igbanke has a mixed culture, its mode of conflict resolution includes influences from Edo and Delta.
Before any conflict could be managed or resolved, its cause is examined. In traditional Igbanke society, most conflicts have been triggered off by issues regarding Land, Power, and Money. Land is a primordial asset of the Igbanke people and so, there is often the die-hard feeling of ownership and attachment to it. The quest for power is mostly common amongst title holders and seekers. Power struggle could also be found within families. The causal factor of money cuts across all strata of the Igbanke society.A Case of Divorce Settlement
Marriage, in traditional Igbanke society is considered a very sacred institution. However, the culture permits polygamy. Cases of divorce are not rampant due to the patrilineal nature of the society. Nevertheless, cases of divorce are resolved with a great degree of traditional protocol which ultimately forestalls the practice of divorce. Procedures for divorce settlement are as follows:

Most of the time, the woman goes back to her family at the height of a crisis between she and her husband. Her refusal to go back to her husband has little or no effect to the divorce process. Except for cases of murder a woman will always be forced to go back to her husband’s house.

For settlement, the man’s kinsmen usually summon the woman’s relatives to the man’s house. The woman is asked first to narrate her case. She is given ample opportunity to "cry out" her emotions. The husband is thereafter asked to give his own side of the story. Depending on the degree of the conflict, the eldest in both families mediate the issue. In Igbanke, emphasis is placed on the values of society which glorify peace and harmony. Their minds are drawn to Iyiolor (a family deity that promotes peace in the family). An interesting aspect of conflict resolution at this level is that the couple is not asked whether they want their marriage, rather, they are told (by the mediators) why their marriage should continue. At the instance of a resolved conflict (divorce settlement) the woman is expected to prepare pounded yam with Ujuju soup (this is a special of the Igbanke people). Often, it is expected that her husband feeds her while she kneels in front of him under the watchful eyes of the elders. At the end, they are bound by nso (abominations) of Iyiolor; they are also bound by the sanctity of their marriage and their joint upkeep of their children – this becomes the agreement for peaceConflict management at the village level
Land is said to be a major asset in traditional African society. Conflict over land could arise as a result of problem of inheritance, farmland, settlement and boundary dispute. A major war that ensued between the Igbanke and Agbor people in 1895 was as a result of land. Omorogbe Nwanwene narrates the story accordingly:

"The genesis of the war dated back to early 1895. It started like a grain of mustard seed. It started due to accusations of land encroachment by the Agbor indigenes at the border lands. All these got to the apogee the moment an Igbanke woman on the border land(s) was abducted."
An Igbontor man known as Mgbako went to Agbor to get back his wife who went to farm and never returned. On getting to Agbor, he also was taken captive. The cause of this tragic phase of man’s inhumanity to man – taking a man’s wife illegally and then taking the husband prisoner for daring to ask for his wife is on something material: land. The news of this high-handedness spread over Igbanke with incredible rapidity.

First of all, an Igbontor general, Ojei, nicknamed Orimatun, went to Agbor on a friendly mission to get the release of Mgbako. He too was caught. Unable to kill him by any means, the people of Agbor asked Orimatun to go back to his people and tell them that they would never gain the release of Mgbako. All Igbanke leading men met and took a decision to send all Nwobu (untouchable) priests to Agbor to secure Mgbako’s release. But the people of Agbor killed them all. All overtures of peace from the Igbanke people of Agbor were turned down by the Obi of Agbor – Obi Osagbobu. Cosequently, the Igbankes regrouped with their warlords and war was declared on Agbor in 1895. The tumultuous war raged on until both villages saw the need basically for some reasons: The sacredness of life in the traditional religion; the intermarriage that exists between them; the long relationship that had existed between long before the war, and the need for peace.

The move for peace started with the Obi of Agbor extending fresh palm frond leaves to the Eze of Igbanke. Usually, the item is dispatched by a young lad (believed to be very harmless), clad with Ekwo-ochan (white traditional apparel). The lad is escorted by two warriors up to the boundary where he is left to deliver the item to the emissaries of the king at the other camp. If the other king is in support of peace, he accepts the fresh palm frond and sends the lad back with two of his servants bearing a white dove or a cork. But if he refuses, the lad will be sent back with a red cloth, or he could be killed. But in the case of the Igbanke-Agbor war, the peace move was taken. The moment the white dove was sent to Agbor, the war stopped. Delegates of both kings met at the boundary, performed the necessary sacrifices, killed a he-goat, spilled the blood in a hold right there at the boundary and planted a kola-nut tree right there. Till date, the area is still called Ogidon (a corruption of Ogi-udon: kola nut of peace).Igbanke is one of the biggest villages in Orhionwon Local Government with a very old traditions and one of this traditions is the Egwu New Yam Festivals. The Igbanke egwu new yam festival is a celebration of traditions, its takes place between the months of August and September every year.

The new yam festival starts with the traditional clearing of roads in the town by the youths. this roads are believe to be used by the spirits of the dead (Ndi Nmo) who are visiting the town for the festival. Also this roads are used by the title holders in going to the town shrine to offer sacrifices to appease the gods of harvest and for peace of the town.

The next step heralding the festival is the traditional painting ofthe walls with native chalks and red earths, (in this time all homes in the village is painted) and then the "Eka Mno" ceremony, the traditional announcement of the commencement of the new yam festival.Eka Nmo ceremonies are held at the palaces of the enogies of Ake, Idumodin, Omolua and Igbontor, on this day, the enogie invites sons and daughters of the town to witness the occasion, during the ceremony he announces the beginning of the annual festival and the announcement gives the title holders the permission to eat from the new yams. (Before then, title holders are not allowed – permitted to eat from the new yam)

During the Eka Nmo ceremony different musical groups are invited to entertain visitors. One of the features of the egwu new yam festivals is the "Oroko Dance",this is a group of traditional dancers made of men from all work of life and of all ages. This dance group goes from house to house in Ake and Obiogba and in each compound dances are held for a few minutes and the householders offer present ranging from palm wine to kolanuts and money as the occasion demands. The Oroko dance is the highlights of the festival as it is the delight of both old and young. At the last dance night where the stars do not sleep, all the dance step are repeated and the audience are keep in awe till day break.

Another major features of the festival is the communal eating together called the "Nil Ugwa", in this day every household cook pounded yam with different type of soup decorated with meats and dried fish. The villagers goes from house to house eating and offering prayers, among the meat presented by the household, a part is taken to the home of the oldest man of the town where everybody assembled in the evening to share it among one another according to age, it is an abomination for the man who is sharing the meat to leak his finger in the process. If by mistake he does, he need a special sacriefies to clean him of any anger of the gods. The "Nwa Ubu" Priest after the traditional announcement of the festival do not sleep in their normal rooms but outside in a hut build for this purpose till the end of the festival (on the Iha Ogugu day). This hut is decorated with native chalks and all sorts of carved images, here he receives his visitors and family members. Nwa Ubu is a god of harvest and the protector of the children of Igbanke town. (Nwa-Ubu nigbo, Ori Nkehin ne Oriewinke).

The other highlights of the festival events is often on saturday "Eke Market day", this day the town is agog with activities and different faces are seen along the road and in different house, almost every compound is filled with son and daughters of the family, visitors from far and near, this festival acts as opportunity to meet old friends who are in Oru-Oyibo in far away land.

The priests are to travel to the "Land of the Unknown" to appease the god of the spirit of the deaths, but before they embarked on this "hard" but joyful journey dances, exchange of native chalk powder (Nzun) and offering of prayers are held. The drummers bring out their best drums and entertain visitors and men and women dance to their satisfaction. The children are not left out of the show as they add colours to the day with the fire work "Kakados", a wooden stick with iron filled with matches like gun powder.

The priests left the shrine at about 4.00 p.m. and before this there is a little shower of rain an indication that the gods has washed their hands and accepted the offering given to her. The priests and their family members and visitors alike walk to a certain point and then only the priests have to go further to the "heart" of the valley where they bring back native chalks believe to be the heart of Nwa-Ubu god. This native chalk is believe to be the protector of the people of Igbanke

The Igbanke Egwu new yam festival is a festival worth the effort tovisit, when next you are near between the months of August and september, ask for the next date of the celebrations, you will be welcome.

==Conclusion An attempt has been made so far to demonstrate the process of conflict resolution in the traditional society of Igbanke. The efficacy of the traditional method cannot be ruled out by the day. The emphasis of the traditional model is on truth. It focuses, not on the practice of law, but on the course of justice. Conflict, at the traditional setting is not merely managed, but it is concertedly terminated. This is possible because so much emphasis is placed on the values of the community which strongly upholds peace and harmony. Nay, the Western model may gain from a true traditional African model of conflict resolution.


The Igbanke Egwu New Yam Festivals
Re: Who Is An Igbo/what Makes Someone An Igbo? by buchibabe: 10:45am On Oct 14, 2012
Abagworo:

What of Igbanke in Edo?

Igbanke is of the Ika tribe in Africa which constitutes Agbor, and up to the border towns of Alifekede down to Umunede. According to Omoregbe Nwanwene,

“six villages constitute Igbanke: these are Umoluah, Igbontor, Idumodin, Ake, Olije, and Ottah – all migrated from different places.”
It is also the case that the foundation of history of Igbanke indicates poignantly that for many centuries after the different villages of Igbanke had been founded, the Igbankes enjoyed absolute independence because they were not vassals of any other people. The name Igbanke arose from a combination of (the names of) two villages: Igbontor and Ake, after a thorough historical supremacy was established.

The government of Igbanke is presided over by the Eze, Enogies, Odioweres, Ndichies, Dikens, Okhiolors, and Okhialis. Each of these heads has his jurisdiction The jurisdiction could be stratified into three: The family level, the clan or hamlets and the villages. At the family level, the Okhilor (he is usually the oldest man in the family) presides. At the village quarters, the Okhilor is the head, while the Eze rules over the entire village. Igbanke is chiefly a patrilineal society and as such its women are seen as performing passive roles. The language spoken in Igbanke is Ika: It is a mixture of Delta Ibo and Oredo languages. Given that Igbanke has a mixed culture, its mode of conflict resolution includes influences from Edo and Delta.
Before any conflict could be managed or resolved, its cause is examined. In traditional Igbanke society, most conflicts have been triggered off by issues regarding Land, Power, and Money. Land is a primordial asset of the Igbanke people and so, there is often the die-hard feeling of ownership and attachment to it. The quest for power is mostly common amongst title holders and seekers. Power struggle could also be found within families. The causal factor of money cuts across all strata of the Igbanke society.A Case of Divorce Settlement
Marriage, in traditional Igbanke society is considered a very sacred institution. However, the culture permits polygamy. Cases of divorce are not rampant due to the patrilineal nature of the society. Nevertheless, cases of divorce are resolved with a great degree of traditional protocol which ultimately forestalls the practice of divorce. Procedures for divorce settlement are as follows:

Most of the time, the woman goes back to her family at the height of a crisis between she and her husband. Her refusal to go back to her husband has little or no effect to the divorce process. Except for cases of murder a woman will always be forced to go back to her husband’s house.






For settlement, the man’s kinsmen usually summon the woman’s relatives to the man’s house. The woman is asked first to narrate her case. She is given ample opportunity to "cry out" her emotions. The husband is thereafter asked to give his own side of the story. Depending on the degree of the conflict, the eldest in both families mediate the issue. In Igbanke, emphasis is placed on the values of society which glorify peace and harmony. Their minds are drawn to Iyiolor (a family deity that promotes peace in the family). An interesting aspect of conflict resolution at this level is that the couple is not asked whether they want their marriage, rather, they are told (by the mediators) why their marriage should continue. At the instance of a resolved conflict (divorce settlement) the woman is expected to prepare pounded yam with Ujuju soup (this is a special of the Igbanke people). Often, it is expected that her husband feeds her while she kneels in front of him under the watchful eyes of the elders. At the end, they are bound by nso (abominations) of Iyiolor; they are also bound by the sanctity of their marriage and their joint upkeep of their children – this becomes the agreement for peaceConflict management at the village level
Land is said to be a major asset in traditional African society. Conflict over land could arise as a result of problem of inheritance, farmland, settlement and boundary dispute. A major war that ensued between the Igbanke and Agbor people in 1895 was as a result of land. Omorogbe Nwanwene narrates the story accordingly:

"The genesis of the war dated back to early 1895. It started like a grain of mustard seed. It started due to accusations of land encroachment by the Agbor indigenes at the border lands. All these got to the apogee the moment an Igbanke woman on the border land(s) was abducted."
An Igbontor man known as Mgbako went to Agbor to get back his wife who went to farm and never returned. On getting to Agbor, he also was taken captive. The cause of this tragic phase of man’s inhumanity to man – taking a man’s wife illegally and then taking the husband prisoner for daring to ask for his wife is on something material: land. The news of this high-handedness spread over Igbanke with incredible rapidity.

First of all, an Igbontor general, Ojei, nicknamed Orimatun, went to Agbor on a friendly mission to get the release of Mgbako. He too was caught. Unable to kill him by any means, the people of Agbor asked Orimatun to go back to his people and tell them that they would never gain the release of Mgbako. All Igbanke leading men met and took a decision to send all Nwobu (untouchable) priests to Agbor to secure Mgbako’s release. But the people of Agbor killed them all. All overtures of peace from the Igbanke people of Agbor were turned down by the Obi of Agbor – Obi Osagbobu. Cosequently, the Igbankes regrouped with their warlords and war was declared on Agbor in 1895. The tumultuous war raged on until both villages saw the need basically for some reasons: The sacredness of life in the traditional religion; the intermarriage that exists between them; the long relationship that had existed between long before the war, and the need for peace.

The move for peace started with the Obi of Agbor extending fresh palm frond leaves to the Eze of Igbanke. Usually, the item is dispatched by a young lad (believed to be very harmless), clad with Ekwo-ochan (white traditional apparel). The lad is escorted by two warriors up to the boundary where he is left to deliver the item to the emissaries of the king at the other camp. If the other king is in support of peace, he accepts the fresh palm frond and sends the lad back with two of his servants bearing a white dove or a cork. But if he refuses, the lad will be sent back with a red cloth, or he could be killed. But in the case of the Igbanke-Agbor war, the peace move was taken. The moment the white dove was sent to Agbor, the war stopped. Delegates of both kings met at the boundary, performed the necessary sacrifices, killed a he-goat, spilled the blood in a hold right there at the boundary and planted a kola-nut tree right there. Till date, the area is still called Ogidon (a corruption of Ogi-udon: kola nut of peace).Igbanke is one of the biggest villages in Orhionwon Local Government with a very old traditions and one of this traditions is the Egwu New Yam Festivals. The Igbanke egwu new yam festival is a celebration of traditions, its takes place between the months of August and September every year.

The new yam festival starts with the traditional clearing of roads in the town by the youths. this roads are believe to be used by the spirits of the dead (Ndi Nmo) who are visiting the town for the festival. Also this roads are used by the title holders in going to the town shrine to offer sacrifices to appease the gods of harvest and for peace of the town.

The next step heralding the festival is the traditional painting ofthe walls with native chalks and red earths, (in this time all homes in the village is painted) and then the "Eka Mno" ceremony, the traditional announcement of the commencement of the new yam festival.Eka Nmo ceremonies are held at the palaces of the enogies of Ake, Idumodin, Omolua and Igbontor, on this day, the enogie invites sons and daughters of the town to witness the occasion, during the ceremony he announces the beginning of the annual festival and the announcement gives the title holders the permission to eat from the new yams. (Before then, title holders are not allowed – permitted to eat from the new yam)

During the Eka Nmo ceremony different musical groups are invited to entertain visitors. One of the features of the egwu new yam festivals is the "Oroko Dance",this is a group of traditional dancers made of men from all work of life and of all ages. This dance group goes from house to house in Ake and Obiogba and in each compound dances are held for a few minutes and the householders offer present ranging from palm wine to kolanuts and money as the occasion demands. The Oroko dance is the highlights of the festival as it is the delight of both old and young. At the last dance night where the stars do not sleep, all the dance step are repeated and the audience are keep in awe till day break.

Another major features of the festival is the communal eating together called the "Nil Ugwa", in this day every household cook pounded yam with different type of soup decorated with meats and dried fish. The villagers goes from house to house eating and offering prayers, among the meat presented by the household, a part is taken to the home of the oldest man of the town where everybody assembled in the evening to share it among one another according to age, it is an abomination for the man who is sharing the meat to leak his finger in the process. If by mistake he does, he need a special sacriefies to clean him of any anger of the gods. The "Nwa Ubu" Priest after the traditional announcement of the festival do not sleep in their normal rooms but outside in a hut build for this purpose till the end of the festival (on the Iha Ogugu day). This hut is decorated with native chalks and all sorts of carved images, here he receives his visitors and family members. Nwa Ubu is a god of harvest and the protector of the children of Igbanke town. (Nwa-Ubu nigbo, Ori Nkehin ne Oriewinke).

The other highlights of the festival events is often on saturday "Eke Market day", this day the town is agog with activities and different faces are seen along the road and in different house, almost every compound is filled with son and daughters of the family, visitors from far and near, this festival acts as opportunity to meet old friends who are in Oru-Oyibo in far away land.

The priests are to travel to the "Land of the Unknown" to appease the god of the spirit of the deaths, but before they embarked on this "hard" but joyful journey dances, exchange of native chalk powder (Nzun) and offering of prayers are held. The drummers bring out their best drums and entertain visitors and men and women dance to their satisfaction. The children are not left out of the show as they add colours to the day with the fire work "Kakados", a wooden stick with iron filled with matches like gun powder.

The priests left the shrine at about 4.00 p.m. and before this there is a little shower of rain an indication that the gods has washed their hands and accepted the offering given to her. The priests and their family members and visitors alike walk to a certain point and then only the priests have to go further to the "heart" of the valley where they bring back native chalks believe to be the heart of Nwa-Ubu god. This native chalk is believe to be the protector of the people of Igbanke

The Igbanke Egwu new yam festival is a festival worth the effort tovisit, when next you are near between the months of August and september, ask for the next date of the celebrations, you will be welcome.

==Conclusion An attempt has been made so far to demonstrate the process of conflict resolution in the traditional society of Igbanke. The efficacy of the traditional method cannot be ruled out by the day. The emphasis of the traditional model is on truth. It focuses, not on the practice of law, but on the course of justice. Conflict, at the traditional setting is not merely managed, but it is concertedly terminated. This is possible because so much emphasis is placed on the values of the community which strongly upholds peace and harmony. Nay, the Western model may gain from a true traditional African model of conflict resolution.

Lol! Abeg dis ur copy n paste no b small somtin. R u a history "tisha"? Lol. Anyway tnx for educatin me sha. Ii will still read thru it again to understand beta
The Igbanke Egwu New Yam Festivals

Re: Who Is An Igbo/what Makes Someone An Igbo? by pazienza(m): 1:16pm On Oct 14, 2012
solomonkane:



Another escaped mental patient. SMH

Stop wasting your time in ukwuani,be grateful to abagworo for helping you discover your true root. Now,you can pack your things and go back to hausaland,that's where ali your ancestor came from, i don't think eze obi ossai will appreciate the idea of a descendant of his slave turning his land into non igbo. I guess ali and other slaves are too ashamed of where they came from that they lied to their descendants,telling them that they came from bini.

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Re: Who Is An Igbo/what Makes Someone An Igbo? by Antivirus92(m): 1:17pm On Oct 14, 2012
I am tired of this abagworo nonsense. Always writting crap.
Re: Who Is An Igbo/what Makes Someone An Igbo? by belltwelve(m): 2:43pm On Oct 14, 2012
Igbo communities actually exist in 4 LGA's in Edo state, and is not limited to Igbanke.

"Not many Igbos know that there are several Igbo communities located in present day Edo State, in South South Nigeria.

These communities are found in Esan South-East, Orhionmwon, Igueben, and Uhunmwode Local Government Areas of Edo state.They include Ekpon/Ekpo, Igbanke/Igbo-Akiri, Owa Iru Uzo, Oza, Iru, and Inyelen/Inyele, Owa Iru, Owa Ikeke, Owa Iguaza, Ute Oheze/Ohaeze, and Igbogiri."
Source:igbodefender.com
Re: Who Is An Igbo/what Makes Someone An Igbo? by aljharem(m): 2:47pm On Oct 14, 2012
belltwelve: Igbo communities actually exist in 4 LGA's in Edo state, and is not limited to Igbanke.

"Not many Igbos know that there are several Igbo communities located in present day Edo State, in South South Nigeria.

These communities are found in Esan South-East, Orhionmwon, Igueben, and Uhunmwode Local Government Areas of Edo state.They include Ekpon/Ekpo, Igbanke/Igbo-Akiri, Owa Iru Uzo, Oza, Iru, and Inyelen/Inyele, Owa Iru, Owa Ikeke, Owa Iguaza, Ute Oheze/Ohaeze, and Igbogiri."
Source:igbodefender.com

Does those names sound Igbotic to you ? angry angry

what is Igbogiri in Igbo

What is Owa in Igbo

What is Iru in Igbo

stop this cr.ap Igbo expansionism.
Re: Who Is An Igbo/what Makes Someone An Igbo? by pazienza(m): 4:33pm On Oct 14, 2012
alj harem:

Does those names sound Igbotic to you ? angry angry

what is Igbogiri in Igbo

What is Owa in Igbo

What is Iru in Igbo

stop this cr.ap Igbo expansionism.

igbogiri= igbo what
owa= we have another owa in ezeagu lga of enugu and in ika of delta
iru= face/front grin
alj harem:

Does those names sound Igbotic to you ? angry angry

what is Igbogiri in Igbo

What is Owa in Igbo

What is Iru in Igbo

stop this cr.ap Igbo expansionism.

igbogiri= igbo what
owa= we have another owa in ezeagu lga of enugu and in ika of delta
iru= face/front

alhaji,what do they mean in kanuri/yoruba?
Re: Who Is An Igbo/what Makes Someone An Igbo? by aljharem(m): 8:30pm On Oct 14, 2012
pazienza:

igbogiri= igbo what
owa= we have another owa in ezeagu lga of enugu and in ika of delta
iru= face/front grin

igbogiri= igbo what
owa= we have another owa in ezeagu lga of enugu and in ika of delta
iru= face/front

alhaji,what do they mean in kanuri/yoruba?


Igbogiri - bush/forest everywhere
Owa - Skin
Iru - locust bean / Or tail

inyele - Back of the house/ backyard ..... in reference to a forest
Re: Who Is An Igbo/what Makes Someone An Igbo? by Abagworo(m): 9:31pm On Oct 14, 2012
Antivirus92: I am tired of this abagworo nonsense. Always writting crap.


I'm teaching you what you barely know. Just learn and stop the insults. I'm 10 years older than you.
Re: Who Is An Igbo/what Makes Someone An Igbo? by demmie1: 10:41pm On Oct 14, 2012
Abagworo:


I'm teaching you what you barely know. Just learn and stop the insults. I'm 10 years older than you.
in igbo it doesn't matter. provided you are 10 million naira richer he'll listen to you. cool
Abagworo:


I'm teaching you what you barely know. Just learn and stop the insults. I'm 10 years older than you.
in igbo it doesn't matter. provided you are 10 million naira richer he'll listen to you.
Re: Who Is An Igbo/what Makes Someone An Igbo? by Nobody: 11:22pm On Oct 14, 2012
Abagworo:


I'm teaching you what you barely know. Just learn and stop the insults. I'm 10 years older than you.

Hahahahahahaha cheesy cheesy cheesy.
Re: Who Is An Igbo/what Makes Someone An Igbo? by agbotaen: 7:05pm On Nov 06, 2012
1.my dear igbo propagandist why un a no de stay alone ,ika people reject your biafra during the war and said they are not igbo ,and today we are not part of your ohaneze ndigbo and infact most ika people keep a distance from igbo .so why dont you leave us alone.
2. which ika culture is similar to igbo ? it is only ikenga and iwagi ,but i can give you 100 that is different from igbo.
3. what do you igbo people derive by false information , you people call igbanke ,igboakiri on the internet ,have you seen any igbanke man calling himself igboakiri , igbanke is made up of the word igbontor and ake , igbanke is made up of six kingdoms , igbotor,ake, omolua, oligie and others.
4. ika is ika and cannever be igbo ,so make do with many aniocha and oshimili towns that say they are igbo, as for ika we no be igbo.
5. i know most of this communities in aniocha/oshimili makes the most noise ,all the time but i advice them to let us who are not igbo to rest.
6. after uhrobo ,the ukwani people might be the largest single ethnic group in delta , they have three local govt, while ika has two , aniocha has two and oshimili has two .so get your information right.
Re: Who Is An Igbo/what Makes Someone An Igbo? by tonychristopher: 12:16pm On Nov 27, 2012
ORIGIN OF DELTA IGBO INDISPUTABLE - UWUECHUE
« on: February 28, 2009, 04:01:30 PM »
President-General of Ohanaeze Ndigbo, Ralph Uwechue, has advised critics of the Delta Igbo on their inclusion in the umbrella body to study the history of the people, as their origin was not disputable.

The former ambassador was reacting to insinuation from Sunny Ofili, publisher of thetimesofnigeria.com, a United States-based Internet news website that those from Delta State were not Igbo.

Uwechue, who hails from Ogwashi-Uku, the headquarter of Aniocha South Local Government Area in the state, made this declaration in response to comments that his headship of the apex Ndigbo socio-cultural oganisation is a self-serving venture that will not impact positively on his fellow Delta Igbo.

"Ofili is not making an accurate statement although he is entitled to his views even when he is wrong. It is ridiculous for people who speak Igbo and who properly know their ancestral home to say they do not know their origin again or for another person to begin to give inaccurate facts," he told Saturday Independent in an interview.

"We have people in Anioma and they form one-third of the population and that has also reflected on the number of local government areas it commands. The entire Delta may not trace their origin to the East (Igbo) it is not contestable but the people of Anioma traced their origin from the East and there is nothing bad in joining Ohanaeze Ndigbo."

Uwechue said belonging to the Ohanaeze Ndigbo would promote unity among the people, rather than focus on divisive tendencies that will not do anyone any good.

"If we do not belong to the stock they will not have given us the president-general. It is because they know. Even the present president of Aka-Ikenga, the intellectual think-tank of Ndigbo, is from Delta and all this promotes unity and a sense of belonging. I am from Ogwashi-Uku and we know our origin. That we have Ijaw people in Delta State does not mean they do not know that they belong to Bayelsa State. Ohanaeze Ndigbo is the grand umbrella for all Igbo stock, for all that have the Igbo origin including those in the Diaspora, so our inclusion is not out of place.

"What the world needs now is unity and any umbrella that will ensure that it is promoted must be encouraged. But I know that there is a deliberate effort in some quarters to tear Ndigbo apart for fear of their solid demography, which is a political force that some are not comfortable with."

Uwechue said that identifying with your source does not make you an enemy of other people.

He added: "People like Dennis Osadebe clearly identified where we belong. And we know it, so it is not for anybody to come and re-write history. The issue is not subject to unnecessary debate because we are well informed to know where we are coming from. Nobody is seeking for any relevance with the organisation because without (it) one is already relevant."

Ofili, while reacting to the series of controversies that Ohanaeze has been enmeshed in since the election of Uwechue as president, said the people of Anioma who are always referred to as Delta Igbo for political convenience stand to gain nothing from Ohanaeze with or without Uwechue as president.

According to him, what did Colonel Joe Achuzie (rtd)'s tenure as the secretary of Ohanaeze brought for Anioma people.

"Ordinarily, I should not be discussing Ohanaeze issue; Ralph Uwechue was elected as the leader of the association, I do not see the need for Anioma person to be heading Ohanaeze. I think it is completely self-serving. Uwechue is an experienced diplomat, I applaud all he has done for himself and our people but he should be at the vanguard of people helping to organise Anioma people to become stronger as a unit, rather than getting involved in Igbo politics, which we have no business getting involved in. We had an Anioma son, Achuzie as secretary-general, what did we benefit for that?"

According to him, the Anioma people of Delta State are completely different from the Igbo people across the River Niger in culture and history, adding that most Anioma indigenes trace their historical origin to Benin.

"Anioma people are one united people and our culture and tradition are quite different and contrast sharply with that of the Igbo from the East. Most Anioma indigenes trace their origins back to Benin Kingdom, Igala and some other places, granted that there are some pockets of communities in Anioma that trace their roots to the East, that does not make Anioma people Igbo across the Niger," he said in the exclusive interview.

According to him, the Ezechima clan which he belongs to, Ika communities among others trace their origin to Benin and not to the East and "so I believe that Anioma people are culturally distinct" and should be left alone to pursue their destiny in the large Nigerian state.

According to him, when the chips are down, no South East governor will reckon with him just as he cannot approach the governor of Delta State with an Ohanaeze agenda and expect positive response
Re: Who Is An Igbo/what Makes Someone An Igbo? by tonychristopher: 1:01pm On Nov 27, 2012
THAT DOESNT MAKE HIM STILL AN IGBO SON, MAY BE IF HE MARRIED AN IGBO LADY HE MIGHT BE CALLED IGBO INLAW BUT HOOD DOEST MAKE U A MONK NOR SUIT MAKE U A PASTOR
Re: Who Is An Igbo/what Makes Someone An Igbo? by Antivirus92(m): 1:20pm On Nov 27, 2012
tonychristopher: THAT DOESNT MAKE HIM STILL AN IGBO SON, MAY BE IF HE MARRIED AN IGBO LADY HE MIGHT BE CALLED IGBO INLAW BUT HOOD DOEST MAKE U A MONK NOR SUIT MAKE U A PASTOR
are u saying that uwechue isn't an igbo man?
Re: Who Is An Igbo/what Makes Someone An Igbo? by agbotaen: 6:07pm On Feb 26, 2013
1. igbo why are you bent on having people who dont like you as part of your ethnicity ? is it not for political power in nigeria ?
2. i am usually amased at the level of greed for money and power by most igbo people and the lie they have to tell to sustain it , well ika people are just not interested in anything igbo , but you can make do with some communities in anioma who say they are igbo
Re: Who Is An Igbo/what Makes Someone An Igbo? by oturugo(m): 3:05am On Feb 27, 2013
agbotaen: 1. igbo why are you bent on having people who dont like you as part of your ethnicity ? is it not for political power in nigeria ?
2. i am usually amased at the level of greed for money and power by most igbo people and the lie they have to tell to sustain it , well ika people are just not interested in anything igbo , but you can make do with some communities in anioma who say they are igbo
Lukwa onye kuru nneghi . Anything Igbo chokes you in your dream , bigot.
Re: Who Is An Igbo/what Makes Someone An Igbo? by Antivirus92(m): 7:27pm On Feb 27, 2013
oturugo:
Lukwa onye kuru nneghi . Anything Igbo chokes you in your dream , bigot.
ignore that man now.
Re: Who Is An Igbo/what Makes Someone An Igbo? by tonychristopher: 3:30pm On Dec 12, 2013
ITS SIMPLE, IF YOU ARE FROM THE EASTERN STATES, FROM DELTA NORTH AND UPPER RIVERS, I MEAN NDONI,ANDONI,ETCVHRE,IKWERRE, AND IF YUOU ARE FROM IGBO AKIRI, IT THEN MEANS YOU ARE IGBO.... BUT MIND YOU WE HAVE CHILDREN OF ASSYLUM SEEKERS FROM BENIN IN THE CASE OF IKA REGION BUT THEY MIGHT BE PSUEDO IGBOS. IF THEY ADMIT THEY ARE IGBOS SO BE IT, IF YOU ARE A NON IGBO WOMAN MARRIED TO AN IGBO MAN AUTOMATIC MODE IS THAT YOU BECOMRE IOGBO



TOO IGBOTIC, THATS WHAT I AM
Re: Who Is An Igbo/what Makes Someone An Igbo? by Pharoh: 5:39pm On Dec 12, 2013
Being igbo is a consciousness and not something you carry in your head everyday because you have to live your life based on your ethnic group identity and language. This is how it is done all over the world but because of the peculiarities of one Nigeria and the politics of population then shouting igbo everywhere becomes a do or die affair for some people.
Re: Who Is An Igbo/what Makes Someone An Igbo? by tpia5: 7:31pm On Dec 12, 2013
psquare's wife is yoruba, thanks.

there is no automatic mode anywhere.

try that line on non-nigerians.

una wan poach the beautiful yoruba ladies and turn them to igbo, abi?

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