pazienza: Haha,this is a knock out blow! Fatality/brutality!

ijawkid:

Kun aguero this question hard o......

I wish say I fit answer am......lol....

m.k.o2005:

Was it lack of faith made Elisha to be illness inspite the fact that he was a great man of God ? Even peter's mother in law was sick with high fever !''When Jesus arrived at Peter's house, Peter's mother-in-law was sick in bed with a high fever.''-Mathew 8:14.
Man does not heal but can be used by God to heal ! God does HIS healing at HIS own time and you don't question God ![/b]God can decide to call anyman or woman home at any point in time and no one asks HIM why !We carry our cross at different times of our life AND IT MAY COME IN ANY FORM OR SHAPE that does not mean that we are no longer with God !
[b]See below the story of another of God's general:
Smith would pray and the blind would see, and the deaf were healed, people came out of wheelchairs, and cancers were destroyed. One remarkable story is when He prayed for a woman in a hospital. While he and a friend were praying she died. He took her out of the bed stood her against the wall and said "in the name of Jesus I rebuke this death". Her whole body began to tremble. The he said "in the name of Jesus walk", and she walked. Everywhere he would go he would teach and then show the power of God. He began to receive requests from all over the world. He taught in Europe, Asia, New Zealand and many other areas. When the crowds became very large he began a "wholesale healing". He would have everyone who needed healing lay hands on themselves and then he would pray. Hundreds would be healed at one time.
Over Smith's ministry it was confirmed that 14 people were raised from the dead. Thousands were saved and healed and he impacted whole continents for Christ.
while waiting at a train station to leave for Scotland, Smith received word that his beloved wife, Polly, had collapsed at the Bowland Street Mission from a heart attack. He rushed to her bedside only to discover her spirit had already departed. But Smith rebuked death, and she came back. Smith had just a short time to visit with his wife again, and then he was impressed that it was time for her to go home to be with her Lord and Savior, so he released her again.

Now you have got 3 issues troubling you above ! Was it the traveling to abroad or the lack of faith or the church fund ? But i tell,i have never spoken to Oyedepo all my life,i have not attended his church before but i have listened to much of his messages. And i promise you,if i attend his church some day & see him,i will try to speak with him and ask him this your question and i believe that he will give me an answer for you ! Honestly i dnt know what you mean by that question.
God bless you

Richvkunt:


Are you saying it is right for a businessmam to block a federal government road in order to carry out his business,while preventing other businessmen/women from going to their own businesses? Sounds selfish to me.
Next week I have to travel to Shagamu and I am not looking forward to the stress,because I learnt that Mr Adeboye is commencing his Redeemed xmas hustle on the Lagos-Ibadan expressway!

Pastor Kun:

And who is this 'God's general' named smith that healed peopled by the hundreds yet we have never heard of him b4 Must you people keep conjuring up stories and ridicling christianity just to prove your demi gods are not charlatans The fact remains that if Oyedepo really had the anointing to heal and he had enough faith in God, he would have waited for God's healing for his wife or resigned himself to the will of God if it was God's will for his wife to die. He won't have resorted to expensive medical treatment abroad that 99% of his church members who contributed that fund cannot afford neither would they be offered the same privilege if they needed medical attention abroad rather Oledepo would tell them to exercise faith he himself doesn't have.

pazienza: Somebody made mention of how shiloh testimonies are always materialistic,and you jumped in trying to explain to the house how important material things like money are,thats what brought about the forbes list,as money is the best way of measuring material things. With the forbes list,we saw that the most blessed people materially on earth are not shiloh fans.

Pastor Kun:

And who is this 'God's general' named smith that healed peopled by the hundreds yet we have never heard of him b4 Must you people keep conjuring up stories and ridicling christianity just to prove your demi gods are not charlatans The fact remains that if Oyedepo really had the anointing to heal and he had enough faith in God, he would have waited for God's healing for his wife or resigned himself to the will of God if it was God's will for his wife to die. He won't have resorted to expensive medical treatment abroad that 99% of his church members who contributed that fund cannot afford neither would they be offered the same privilege if they needed medical attention abroad rather Oledepo would tell them to exercise faith he himself doesn't have.

m.k.o2005:

Go read the book titled GOD'S GENERAL-by smith wiggles worth !

Pastor Kun:

The title of the book alone suggests he is a charlatan as a true man of God should be humble and not arrogate title's like God's General to himself

Pastor Kun:

The title of the book alone suggests he is a charlatan as a true man of God should be humble and not arrogate title's like God's General to himself

Pastor Kun:

The title of the book alone suggests he is a charlatan as a true man of God should be humble and not arrogate title's like God's General to himself

Bidam: Na wa for dis guy sha.toh my lips are sealed..don't tell me you have not heard of smith wigglesworth before. And point of correction, he didn't arrogate the title to himself, people gave it to him after he passed on to glory due to d impact he made..u wat have u done to depopulate hell and populate heaven apart from unnecessary,unwarranted aand uncalled for criticism. God have mercy on u.

Pastor Kun:

All these vacant un verifiable claims of healing in winner's chapel yet Oledepo and all the other pentecostal leaders in Nigeria(including their Oga Adeboye) could not get healing for Oledepo's wife thru their 'prayers' and she had to be flown abroad and hospitalised for six months before she got better. If Oyedepo and Adeboye combined could not heal Faith Oyedepo of ordinary stroke why should we believe 'lesser' mortals can be healed of AIDS or SS anaemia in the shiloh charade. The only thing certain in shiloh is that Oledepo would make a lot of money.

taigee:

Mr Kun or whatever you call yourself, you will type anything to discredit whatever comes through Bishop Oyedepo. U are not different from the religious leaders of the days of Jesus even when healed the man blind from birth (John 9:1-36) they still would not believe, they concluded that Jesus was a sinner and God could not heal through him. Is it everyone that travels abroad for treatment that return healed? You said ordinary stroke? May the Devil plague you with ORDINARY STROKE. You must be a minister of death like the Pharisees. An open sepulchre with only dead men's bones.
This thread is to glorify God stop spewing out negativities.
You call urself a Pastor? No u must be a messenger of death, a Liar, out to always dispute any act of God.
Bishop David Oyedepo preaches The Word of Faith with proofs, where are your own proofs. You Mr Kun are the real scammer like the Elymas the Sorcerer in Acts 13:8. You think you are doing Christ any good by discrediting His acts because you don't believe that God can use people like Oyedepo and Adeboye? You and all your Nairaland Atheist followers will definitely end up in hell if you refuse to repent.
Again May the Devil plague for a season with ORDINARY STROKE.

taigee:

Mr Kun or whatever you call yourself, you will type anything to discredit whatever comes through Bishop Oyedepo. U are not different from the religious leaders of the days of Jesus even when healed the man blind from birth (John 9:1-36) they still would not believe, they concluded that Jesus was a sinner and God could not heal through him. Is it everyone that travels abroad for treatment that return healed? You said ordinary stroke? May the Devil plague you with ORDINARY STROKE. You must be a minister of death like the Pharisees. An open sepulchre with only dead men's bones.
This thread is to glorify God stop spewing out negativities.
You call urself a Pastor? No u must be a messenger of death, a Liar, out to always dispute any act of God.
Bishop David Oyedepo preaches The Word of Faith with proofs, where are your own proofs. You Mr Kun are the real scammer like the Elymas the Sorcerer in Acts 13:8. You think you are doing Christ any good by discrediting His acts because you don't believe that God can use people like Oyedepo and Adeboye? You and all your Nairaland Atheist followers will definitely end up in hell if you refuse to repent.
Again May the Devil plague for a season with ORDINARY STROKE.

rusher14:
Question: is it right for a professed MOG to seek medical attention for himself or spouse while presenting faith healing to his cogregation?

rusher14:
Question: is it right for a professed MOG to seek medical attention for himself or spouse while presenting faith healing to his cogregation?

taigee:

Mr Kun or whatever you call yourself, you will type anything to discredit whatever comes through Bishop Oyedepo. U are not different from the religious leaders of the days of Jesus even when healed the man blind from birth (John 9:1-36) they still would not believe, they concluded that Jesus was a sinner and God could not heal through him. Is it everyone that travels abroad for treatment that return healed? You said ordinary stroke? May the Devil plague you with ORDINARY STROKE. You must be a minister of death like the Pharisees. An open sepulchre with only dead men's bones.
This thread is to glorify God stop spewing out negativities.
You call urself a Pastor? No u must be a messenger of death, a Liar, out to always dispute any act of God.
Bishop David Oyedepo preaches The Word of Faith with proofs, where are your own proofs. You Mr Kun are the real scammer like the Elymas the Sorcerer in Acts 13:8. You think you are doing Christ any good by discrediting His acts because you don't believe that God can use people like Oyedepo and Adeboye? You and all your Nairaland Atheist followers will definitely end up in hell if you refuse to repent.
Again May the Devil plague for a season with ORDINARY STROKE.

taigee:

Believing God for healing does not stop you from medical help. All work together for your healing. Faith in Christ does not discredit medical treatments. Even Drs say they treat and God heals. How is seeking medical attention a sin? I repeat it is not all that have access to good medical treatment that Get healed. The Fact that Mrs Oyedepo is back fully on her feet, healthy brings glory to God.

taigee:

Mr Kun or whatever you call yourself, you will type anything to discredit whatever comes through Bishop Oyedepo. U are not different from the religious leaders of the days of Jesus even when healed the man blind from birth (John 9:1-36) they still would not believe, they concluded that Jesus was a sinner and God could not heal through him. Is it everyone that travels abroad for treatment that return healed? You said ordinary stroke? May the Devil plague you with ORDINARY STROKE. You must be a minister of death like the Pharisees. An open sepulchre with only dead men's bones.
This thread is to glorify God stop spewing out negativities.
You call urself a Pastor? No u must be a messenger of death, a Liar, out to always dispute any act of God.
Bishop David Oyedepo preaches The Word of Faith with proofs, where are your own proofs. You Mr Kun are the real scammer like the Elymas the Sorcerer in Acts 13:8. You think you are doing Christ any good by discrediting His acts because you don't believe that God can use people like Oyedepo and Adeboye? You and all your Nairaland Atheist followers will definitely end up in hell if you refuse to repent.
Again May the Devil plague for a season with ORDINARY STROKE.

Pastor Kun:

Thanx for your 'prayers' may God visit you with ten fold of whatever you wish for me. Amen

stagger:
Most of us on Nairaland have good jobs and earn enough money, so we are very far away from the reality of many Nigerians. Winners Chapel's charity work is beyond what many can imagine. The church does not publicise it and never will.

m.k.o2005:

People never understood how solomon could amass all the wealth he was blessed with ! They saw everything as extravagance and just too much for one man! But he fell wen he left God out of it !No wealth can ever be too much wen God is with you ! If you leave out God in your riches or poverty,you will most definitely fall ! If not in this life,in the great beyond !
God bless us

m.k.o2005:

Christ at age 12 was bin searched for by his parents,but wen he was found and his parents start to ask HIM worriedly why he has don this kind of thing to them(using his own to distract their own)And he answered them saying; ''And he said to them, How is it that you sought me? knew you not that I must be about my Father's business?-Luke 2:49
Friend,what kind of business are you running to catch up with?If it is not on heavenly issues or business,don't you think that THAT Adeboye's bizness that has to do with God's bizness is far far more important than that of your earthly pursuit ? Not encouraging road block though and not trying to be selfish but i think we should put God's bizness first !
God bless us

m.k.o2005:

Christ at age 12 was bin searched for by his parents,but wen he was found and his parents start to ask HIM worriedly why he has don this kind of thing to them(using his own to distract their own)And he answered them saying; ''And he said to them, How is it that you sought me? knew you not that I must be about my Father's business?-Luke 2:49
Friend,what kind of business are you running to catch up with?If it is not on heavenly issues or business,don't you think that THAT Adeboye's bizness that has to do with God's bizness is far far more important than that of your earthly pursuit ? Not encouraging road block though and not trying to be selfish but i think we should put God's bizness first !
God bless us

Pastor Kun:

And who is this 'God's general' named smith that healed peopled by the hundreds yet we have never heard of him b4 Must you people keep conjuring up stories and ridicling christianity just to prove your demi gods are not charlatans The fact remains that if Oyedepo really had the anointing to heal and he had enough faith in God, he would have waited for God's healing for his wife or resigned himself to the will of God if it was God's will for his wife to die. He won't have resorted to expensive medical treatment abroad that 99% of his church members who contributed that fund cannot afford neither would they be offered the same privilege if they needed medical attention abroad rather Oledepo would tell them to exercise faith he himself doesn't have.