Wat bout couple dat obeyed all d types of lock yet no offspring! R they cursed too

xynerise:
what makes u think it will be resolve today?

because it has found its way 2 d front page headlines

one need 2 build his/her house on a solid rock B4 jumpin into marriage...dats d sure pass,GOD. ...i thank d admin 4 helpin me 2 refrace d topic & putin it among front page headlines...i appreciate!

Why is everyone attaching marriage to religion? If it's a traditional wine carrying that's done, vow before a priest, a ship captain, even between just two people promising to stay together for the rest of their live, it's all marriage.

Kick out religion and it's implications and u'll realise there's no curse or blessing attached to a union. Marriage is as good as a voluntary organisation or even a cooperative society, only it's got 2 members.

So long there's a common interest, understanding(including knowing d implications of their union), and emotional involvement between 2 people who have decided to live together and raise children, they are as good as married IMHO.

Now wonder why some marriages done the conventional way still fail?
There are basic general principles governing a union and some which are belief oriented, u break even the least one of them and ur marriage is as good as doomed.

onye ego: Once a woman and a man lives together and starts a family.
They are "married"
God does not attach any significance to the wedding that is conducted in churches.
This is why you will never find a verse in the bible where Jesus asked Christians to wed in the church neither did he wed anyone.

The phrase HOLY MATRIMONY is an abomination, its blasphemy, cos only God is expected to be HOLY.

This is why on the last day, wife will be separated from her husband.
wedding is only an earthly jamboree but in the sight of God whether you wed or not since you start a family as husband and wife u are "married"

The reason why some ladies remain unmarried for long is that they
Co-habit(already married)
and they are still praying for a husband while God is seeing her husband by her every night

You said "God does not attach any significance to church wedding" "only God is expected to be holy"
I doubt if you know what you are saying. Even in my dreams, I can't type such rubbish! Cohabitation does not equal marriage (in the site of GOD) irrespective of the number of kids born 'out of wedlock'.

Two individuals are said to be married when it is under law backed up with church wedding/blessing and traditional wedding (as the case may be).

The level of ignorance exhibited by this generation is so appalling. Your deductions from the bible shows you read it upside down. Haven't you come across the verse d@ says MARRIAGE IS HONOURABLE IN ALL AND THE BED UNDEFILED? That is where HOLY MATRIMONY comes in!

uj_sizzle: Why is everyone attaching marriage to religion? If it's a traditional wine carrying that's done, vow before a priest, a ship captain, even between just two people promising to stay together for the rest of their live, it's all marriage.

Kick out religion and it's implications and u'll realise there's no curse or blessing attached to a union. Marriage is as good as a voluntary organisation or even a cooperative society, only it's got 2 members.

So long there's a common interest, understanding(including knowing d implications of their union), and emotional involvement between 2 people who have decided to live together and raise children, they are as good as married IMHO.

Now wonder why some marriages done the conventional way still fail?
There are basic general principles governing a union and some which are belief oriented, u break even the least one of them and ur marriage is as good as doomed.

Even pagan countries like China, Singapore e.t.c, they still conduct marriages and without official/government recognition, you're not married. you can decide to do it religiously or otherwise, but you must be recognized by the country before it can become legal.

honeric01:

Even pagan countries like China, Singapore e.t.c, they still conduct marriages and without official/government recognition, you're not married. you can decide to do it religiously or otherwise, but you must be recognized by the country before it can become legal.

The question of legality only comes to mind when/if there's a problem in the union that has to be settled by the law(esp with kids involvement) and for state record keeping. Other than that, a couple can be perfectly happy together without the involvement of the state.

uj_sizzle:
The question of legality only comes to mind when/if there's a problem in the union that has to be settled by the law(esp with kids involvement) and for state record keeping. Other than that, a couple can be perfectly happy together without the involvement of the state.

Whatever the government does not recognize as marriage is not marriage, it's nothing but a "common union" which does not require any commitment from any of the party.

It's not different from sleeping with your numerous boyfriends/girlfriends and having babies everywhere.

this lifestyle have nothing in common with marriage.

honeric01:

Whatever the government does not recognize as marriage is not marriage, it's nothing but a "common union" which does not require any commitment from any of the party.

It's not different from sleeping with your numerous boyfriends/girlfriends and having babies everywhere.

these lifestyle have nothing in common with marriage.

u re blessed...what a grt inspiration 4 unbelievers

honeric01:

Even pagan countries like China, Singapore e.t.c, they still conduct marriages and without official/government recognition, you're not married. you can decide to do it religiously or otherwise, but you must be recognized by the country before it can become legal.

Pls tell them more...abi na

honeric01:

Whatever the government does not recognize as marriage is not marriage, it's nothing but a "common union" which does not require any commitment from any of the party.

It's not different from sleeping with your numerous boyfriends/girlfriends and having babies everywhere.

these lifestyle have nothing in common with marriage.

the absence of legally binding commitment does not mean the absence of commitment. If it did then people would be free to have numerous boyfriends and fiancees would be free to sleep around with other men without their fiance getting angry since they aren't wedded yet.

You are committed when u decide to be. Legally getting married doesn't ensure that neither does it prevent people from being cheats.

The best marriage is btw the parties involved, both families having witness the Dowry payment, has legalized that UNION. However, church or court wedding may or not be considered by the couples.

So many are not married but living a happy life while some are married but are regretting in their marriage. It is written in Bible that sex outside marriage is fornication. The bible has the final say cus it is God talking. So i believe its a curse for one to live and have sex out of marriage. May God forgive us our sins.

uj_sizzle:
the absence of legally binding commitment does not mean the absence of commitment. If it did then people would be free to have numerous boyfriends and fiancees would be free to sleep around with other men without their fiance getting angry since they aren't wedded yet.

You are committed when u decide to be. Legally getting married doesn't ensure that neither does it prevent people from being cheats.

What exactly are you saying?

onye ego:
But God never collected bride price.
But the discussion is on the significance of paying the bride price as practiced today.If I have a daughter , I won't collect money before giving out in marriage,the purpose of money is to buy things, so my daughter can never be sold.
For the people that do it, good for them, but for me it's baseless and makes no sense.
They will tell you; we are not selling our daughter but they still collect money and other items.
Who is fooling who

Oga, suite yourself. If you dash your daughter to a man, dont complain when he starts treating her like a piece of trash.

onye ego: Once a woman and a man lives together and starts a family.
They are "married"
God does not attach any significance to the wedding that is conducted in churches.
This is why you will never find a verse in the bible where Jesus asked Christians to wed in the church neither did he wed anyone.

The phrase HOLY MATRIMONY is an abomination, its blasphemy, cos only God is expected to be HOLY.

This is why on the last day, wife will be separated from her husband.
wedding is only an earthly jamboree but in the sight of God whether you wed or not since you start a family as husband and wife u are "married"

The reason why some ladies remain unmarried for long is that they
Co-habit(already married)
and they are still praying for a husband while God is seeing her husband by her every night

Absolutely true!! I was about to write something like this but saw yours.

Like, like like like like like like like!

Nellyd: Oga, suite yourself. If you dash your daughter to a man, dont complain when he starts treating her like a piece of trash.

I don't understand, so are you saying a man will treat his daughter bad because he didn't pay brideprice?

honeric01:

What exactly are you saying?

I'm saying religion like the OP suggests has nothing to do with blessing and curses in a union.
I'm saying whether the state recognises ur union as marriage or not the simple fact that you have both agreed to be together to raise children means u're as good as married.
I'm saying that being together outside wedlock does not attract blessings or curses unless you're a mismatch.

*unfollowing*

uj_sizzle:
I'm saying religion like the OP suggests has nothing to do with blessing and curses in a union.
I'm saying whether the state recognises ur union as marriage or not the simple fact that you have both agreed to be together to raise children means u're as good as married.
I'm saying that being together outside wedlock does not attract blessings or curses unless you're a mismatch.

*unfollowing*

When it comes to recognition, without legalizing the union, it's nothing but a mere "friendship/union"

Marriage is not about recognition.

You enter into a partnership with someone because you want to spend your life with them and raise a family whether the government recognises the union or not.

kandiikane: Marriage is not about recognition.

You enter into a partnership with someone because you want to spend your life with them and raise a family whether the government recognises the union or not.

Sorry but you're not in a lawless society where there are no rules/recognized authority. there are ethics and legality of a union is one of them, a man and wife must be registered with the government before they can be termed "couple" and this consist of getting the court involved.

honeric01:

Sorry but you're not in a lawless society where there are no rules/recognized authority. there are ethics and legality of a union is one of them, a man and wife must be registered with the government before they can be termed "couple" and this consist of getting the court involved.

And I'm telling you two people who want to spend their lives together and raise children do not need the government to recognise that they are. You do not need a paper to say mr and mrs for you or others around you to know you want to spend your lives together. That paper does not guarantee a lasting union. You do not need the government to tell you, you're a couple.

kandiikane:

And I'm telling you two people who want to spend their lives together and raise children do not need the government to recognise that they are. You do not need a paper to say mr and mrs for you or others around you to know you want to spend your lives together. That paper does not guarantee a lasting union. You do not need the government to tell you, you're a couple.

No one is telling you paper makes a union last, what i am saying is that you're recognized as a couple by the society without legalizing the union via court. Period!