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Re: Chinua Achebe: A Biafran In Nigerian Clothes - By Muhammad Jameel Yusha’u by joeyfire(m): 10:21am On Dec 27, 2012 |
BlackBaron: I got nothing against Achebe's person but It's very difficult for anyone with an unbiased mind not to notice the inherent bits of propaganda. I have to disagree with you there bro. Nzeogwu was almost every bit a northerner save for his midwest heritage. Let's not forget that he carried out his own assassination in 1966 supported by northern troops, was mourned by his northern colleagues in the army when he died and was given a hero's burial in kaduna when he died. Ojukwu was just born in the north, schooled in lagos and uk. |
Re: Chinua Achebe: A Biafran In Nigerian Clothes - By Muhammad Jameel Yusha’u by Akanbiedu(m): 10:22am On Dec 27, 2012 |
oyb: achebe, the 1000 year nnabros reich is dead. deal with it. Right bro plus the 20 pound policy. |
Re: Chinua Achebe: A Biafran In Nigerian Clothes - By Muhammad Jameel Yusha’u by BlackBaron: 10:55am On Dec 27, 2012 |
joeyfire:That is an emphatic calumny to try to deny his parentage. Last time I checked Nzeogwu also schooled in the UK, if you want to use that to excise him. Besides, Nzeogwu also fought in the biafran war yet you say he was a northerner but Ojukwu wasn't? |
Re: Chinua Achebe: A Biafran In Nigerian Clothes - By Muhammad Jameel Yusha’u by mamigocentral: 11:14am On Dec 27, 2012 |
joeyfire:well, i've never read Omoigui's blog and I know that on the retreat from Ore blood was shed and conveniently tucked away in the greater mass of bloodshed then occuring in the east. Read Ben Gbulie's why we struck, wale ademoyegun's Nigeria's five majors and alexander madiebo's nigerian civil war and biafran revolution. Even as much as i respected Madiebo's accuracy in almost all the issues discussed he was more or less guilty of protecting biafra's image, but that was expected. Why gloss over a few deaths in Ore, benin and other communities the biafran army passed thru led by a son of the soil, all of that could effectively be left at adekunle's feet as the commanding officer of the biafran force that drove deep into the heart of the west |
Re: Chinua Achebe: A Biafran In Nigerian Clothes - By Muhammad Jameel Yusha’u by joeyfire(m): 11:30am On Dec 27, 2012 |
BlackBaron: You are missing the point. Nobody is saying that Nzeogwu is from an ethnic group native to the north. The man came from okpanam but was born up north and was a kaduna man through and through, accepted by people from that place as one of them and buried with full honour in kaduna during the war. Ojukwu got nowhere near nzeogwu with regard to acceptance by the northerners unless I am not getting your point |
Re: Chinua Achebe: A Biafran In Nigerian Clothes - By Muhammad Jameel Yusha’u by joeyfire(m): 11:33am On Dec 27, 2012 |
mamigocentral: well, i've never read Omoigui's blog and I know that on the retreat from Ore blood was shed and conveniently tucked away in the greater mass of bloodshed then occuring in the east. Read Ben Gbulie's why we struck, wale ademoyegun's Nigeria's five majors and alexander madiebo's nigerian civil war and biafran revolution. Even as much as i respected Madiebo's accuracy in almost all the issues discussed he was more or less guilty of protecting biafra's image, but that was expected. Why gloss over a few deaths in Ore, benin and other communities the biafran army passed thru led by a son of the soil, all of that could effectively be left at adekunle's feet as the commanding officer of the biafran force that drove deep into the heart of the west Ok will look up on those books again but my I seriously doubt the existence of an agenda of calculated brutality. |
Re: Chinua Achebe: A Biafran In Nigerian Clothes - By Muhammad Jameel Yusha’u by mamigocentral: 12:17pm On Dec 27, 2012 |
joeyfire:Now, I've died and gone to heaven. Am happy that at least one person can get past all the bullshit and examine matters critically. Its so cool that you're a level headed intellect. It wasnt brutality with intent, it was more like an emotional retaliation for what the Ibos had suffered unlike the planned massacres of the nigerian army. If i was in ther position i probably would have done so too, its not about laying blame but more about laying out the facts. |
Re: Chinua Achebe: A Biafran In Nigerian Clothes - By Muhammad Jameel Yusha’u by PROUDIGBO(m): 1:50pm On Dec 27, 2012 |
oyb: achebe, the 1000 year nnabros reich is dead. deal with it. ^^^You're a fool mate! You talk of trying the Biafran high command for treason, neglecting the reason for the war in the first place....neglecting the fact that war crimes were committed by the federal side, who in your opinion should not answer to anything b'cos they are blameless and whiter than white abi? (and besides it was the Igbos you hate that they were killing, so that makes it alright); fool, what i'm saying is that any 'discuss' or 'getting together' after the war should have been on the basis of a 'truth and reconciliation' set-up, so blame can be apportioned where necessary (whether it be Biafran or Federal/Nigerian) and any war crimes by whomsover would be acknowledged, offenders punished and apologies rendered.....but instead all 'issues' and 'causal factors' that led to the war, and issues affecting our proper intergration as a nation were swept under the carpet as the 'owners of Nigeria' (and their bastard helpers in the south) now sat down to ra/pe and plunder the nations resources, while all the while shouting the redundant mantra of 'up one naijeriah' and 'one indivisible country for life'.....absolute bunkum! What you call 'filling the heads of the next generation with propaganda and delusions' will continue for as long as there are questions on the 'workability' of Nigeria as a nation, and for as long as we Igbos/Biafrans feel it necessary to remind our children of their past and to be wary of evil scum like you who wouldn't hesitate to annihilate an entire people given half a chance.....so you should learn to live with it, or go out on to the streets and demonstrate/carry placards for the 'Igbos' to leave Nigeria as you find their wahala to too much to handle. 2 Likes |
Re: Chinua Achebe: A Biafran In Nigerian Clothes - By Muhammad Jameel Yusha’u by PROUDIGBO(m): 1:54pm On Dec 27, 2012 |
mamigocentral: I actually find myself agreeing with you on the issue of trial but let's be sincere, a trial would have been disastrous in light of the fact that Ojukwu fled and ibos couldnt be held responsible for a war brought about by both sides, although i can say categorically that Ojukwu was the only leader of a losing side in a civil war that i have heard of who went on to become a national hero half a decade after d war instead of a dead body in a morgue regardless of whay country he fled to ^^^You find yourself agreeing with his thrash....but of course you would, wouldn't you?; you can try and play the 'level-headed neutral' all you like but at some point your true sentiments and feelings will always betray you. |
Re: Chinua Achebe: A Biafran In Nigerian Clothes - By Muhammad Jameel Yusha’u by Dede1(m): 2:39pm On Dec 27, 2012 |
@OP It is laughable and downright embarrassing to watch the dunces and their idiotic audiences make fool out of them selves. In one paragraph, the narrator stated northern region, including Bello and Balewa, was not ready for Nigerian independence in 60 and not capable of handling self-governance, yet in another paragraph the narrator stated that Bello and Balewa were traditionally schooled and readied for governance. I guess the narrator can not eat his\her cake and have it. If I say the narrator is intellectually bankrupt, it is simply an understatement. 1 Like |
Re: Chinua Achebe: A Biafran In Nigerian Clothes - By Muhammad Jameel Yusha’u by Nobody: 2:47pm On Dec 27, 2012 |
Are we not tired of this Biafran stuff.....we keep repeating ourselves with no fresh insight whatsoever..both side holding on to their historical perspectives. There is no winner here....only losers and they are Nigerians..either in Nigeria or Biafra clothing. |
Re: Chinua Achebe: A Biafran In Nigerian Clothes - By Muhammad Jameel Yusha’u by joeyfire(m): 2:55pm On Dec 27, 2012 |
mamigocentral: Now, I've died and gone to heaven. Am happy that at least one person can get past all the bullshit and examine matters critically. Its so cool that you're a level headed intellect. It wasnt brutality with intent, it was more like an emotional retaliation for what the Ibos had suffered unlike the planned massacres of the nigerian army. If i was in ther position i probably would have done so too, its not about laying blame but more about laying out the facts. I'm aware that tragedy is bound to happen in a war situation, I'm however certain that it never happened on the scale nowa omoigui's online wankfest tries to paint it |
Re: Chinua Achebe: A Biafran In Nigerian Clothes - By Muhammad Jameel Yusha’u by BlackBaron: 3:12pm On Dec 27, 2012 |
joeyfire:My point is Nzeogwu knew where his allegiance lay irrespective of his supposed affiliations with the north. What is the criteria for a 'northerner through and through' considering Ojukwu and Nzeogwu had very similar background, spoke hausa and igbo fluently and fought on the same side during the civil war? His burial in Kaduna was more as a result of Gowon's directive rather than the implicit desire of his family or the wishes of northerners. |
Re: Chinua Achebe: A Biafran In Nigerian Clothes - By Muhammad Jameel Yusha’u by PROUDIGBO(m): 3:19pm On Dec 27, 2012 |
joeyfire: ^^^Omoiguis' online wankfest!? .......the mind boggles walahi! |
Re: Chinua Achebe: A Biafran In Nigerian Clothes - By Muhammad Jameel Yusha’u by Nobody: 3:46pm On Dec 27, 2012 |
PROUD-IGBO: no one is holding you. you people like money too much to do more than make noise. if you were serious and not just noisemakers, you'd have started a clear process of disengagement from nigeria - but rather, you keep on setting up businesses and shops in the rest of nigeria, even in the north where very 8months or so, several of you are slaughtered by rabid abokis. your biafra noise is just sabre rattling. if you really wanted out you wouldn't be angling for presidency. no what you lot have always wanted is ascendancy over the rest of nigeria by hook, crook, force, stealth, cunny cunny, any means necessary. (that was what the coup was about - ascendancy over nigeria - when that failed you decided to settle for ascendancy over the SS&SE) |
Re: Chinua Achebe: A Biafran In Nigerian Clothes - By Muhammad Jameel Yusha’u by Ojiofor: 3:49pm On Dec 27, 2012 |
We are all Biafrans |
Re: Chinua Achebe: A Biafran In Nigerian Clothes - By Muhammad Jameel Yusha’u by PROUDIGBO(m): 3:50pm On Dec 27, 2012 |
oyb: ^^^Fair enough.....whatever rocks your boat mate. With the bolded, i have nothing more to add. |
Re: Chinua Achebe: A Biafran In Nigerian Clothes - By Muhammad Jameel Yusha’u by ezeagu(m): 4:35pm On Dec 27, 2012 |
pazienza: Well,most igbos are biafrans in nigeria clothing, at least all my immediate and extended family members are. Most naive Nigerians are blaming Achebe for opening up what they call an old wound,but was the wound ever closed? I guess nigerians took the igbo silence to mean that we have gotten over biafra,how convinient. Biafra will always live in the heart of noble igbo men and women,we will always be biafrans in heart,you don't force people to be in the same nation with you. If the Igbo had gotten over the war then there would have been Igbo supporters of MEND and Middle belters, but we all know what happened in history. It's ironic that the people who actually fought the war (instead of people partying all through it) are the ones that are actually suffering for it now and publicly apologising. |
Re: Chinua Achebe: A Biafran In Nigerian Clothes - By Muhammad Jameel Yusha’u by ezeagu(m): 4:38pm On Dec 27, 2012 |
dayokanu: ^^ The Nazi spirit was broken through crushing defeat trial and death of the key Nazist. Well it wasn't because unfortunately for your deluded selves who didn't even fight the war the battles were in the hands of Westerners and communists. At least Biafra had a spirit instead of aimless partying and then mouthing off decades later. |
Re: Chinua Achebe: A Biafran In Nigerian Clothes - By Muhammad Jameel Yusha’u by Nobody: 8:44pm On Dec 27, 2012 |
Re: Chinua Achebe: A Biafran In Nigerian Clothes - By Muhammad Jameel Yusha’u by lagcity(m): 10:16pm On Dec 27, 2012 |
NL Igbos are in the minority. A lot of Igbos I know do not care about Biafra. . . or maybe they are pretending. There really is not anything wrong with having Biafra, but Igbo senators and reps are just useless, or maybe they are scared other senators will mob them if they raise the issue. They have "their man" in power and they aren't making a move. Biko, if not now, when? |
Re: Chinua Achebe: A Biafran In Nigerian Clothes - By Muhammad Jameel Yusha’u by eboeboy: 10:57pm On Dec 27, 2012 |
Just one question, why did he wait till Ojukwu died before releasing this memoir? I've been thinking about this all year! |
Re: Chinua Achebe: A Biafran In Nigerian Clothes - By Muhammad Jameel Yusha’u by gbanikiti(m): 11:52pm On Dec 27, 2012 |
A coincidence maybe eboe boy: Just one question, why did he wait till Ojukwu died before releasing this memoir? |
Re: Chinua Achebe: A Biafran In Nigerian Clothes - By Muhammad Jameel Yusha’u by gbanikiti(m): 11:53pm On Dec 27, 2012 |
eboe boy: Just one question, why did he wait till Ojukwu died before releasing this memoir? |
Re: Chinua Achebe: A Biafran In Nigerian Clothes - By Muhammad Jameel Yusha’u by DuduNegro: 6:47am On Dec 28, 2012 |
oyb: achebe, the 1000 year nnabros reich is dead. deal with it. + 1000 |
Re: Chinua Achebe: A Biafran In Nigerian Clothes - By Muhammad Jameel Yusha’u by mamigocentral: 2:22pm On Dec 28, 2012 |
PROUD-IGBO:Touche, go read about Confederate president jefferson davis who is the perfect example of an Ojukwu in the US civil war. Check wikipedia if u cant find his story anywhere else. And if Ojukwu was in Gowon's shoes he'd have tried a lot of biafran generals same as he did killing his own people and sentencing them to jail on flimsy irrelevant excuses as saboteurs. With all their barbarism; I never heard of high level officers being court martialled on the Nigerian side. This very thing was why he lost his war, his, because the Ibo nation still survives and thrives as a result of the magnanimity of a seemingly ironical blood thirsty general (Gowon) |
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