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Re: Somebody Lied "African-american" Ain't African by Nobody: 6:11pm On Apr 13, 2013 |
KidStranglehold: Anyways...ALL HAIL THE CARIBBEAN MASTER RACE! AAIIIGHT NOW!! Haitins shut shyt down but don't style Jamos now!! We were some tyrants too!! the spanish BEGGED us to fight with them against the british. we waxed the british azzes so bad they came at us with TWO TREATIES! One to stop whipping their azz and the other to allow the various maroon people to live freely and control a portion of Jamaica if and only if they promised not to stop them (british) from handling their business on the island... You know the beheading/torturing of the whites thing was something brought to Jamaica, Haiti and South Carolina by our Kongo ancestors. I forgot which documentary i saw it on but it was saying that we literally arrived on our islands from the same ships...as in we are literally the same people as far as our Kongo/Angolan ancestry is concerned. Apparently we were whipping azz so bad they outlawed discussing the news of the rebellions in America fearing those in America would follow...and that's exactly what happened in South Carolina . I promise i will try to find the documentary!! As soon as I do I will post it. |
Re: Somebody Lied "African-american" Ain't African by MrsChima(f): 6:14pm On Apr 13, 2013 |
onila: looking for a smart handsome carribean man Haitian men are great lovers but they cray cray. When it cone to sex.....hmmmmm they are it but my husband just won my heart...sighs. |
Re: Somebody Lied "African-american" Ain't African by Nobody: 6:16pm On Apr 13, 2013 |
KidStranglehold: to tell you the truth, AAs are not responsible for what happens in the caribbean. It's up to US to take care of our own, just like it's up to them to take care of their own. Oprah is not obligated to even send money to Africa but she did out of choice and I ain't mad at that. But there is no obligation. I think rich caribbean people need to give back to our homelands because at the end of the day we are joined at the him. Nia Long and other caribbean-americans have done a good job so far...esp. Wyclef..we just need more to step up!! As for Cuba..the white cubans are straight..minus the Italian ones and anyone can go to Cuba just not Americans without permission. Like Jamaicans can go to Cuba with NO PROBLEM. In fact Jamos are there and Cubans are in Jamo like crazy.. Haitians can go there..Dominicans etc. Just Americans can't because of the embargo and the who saga from the 50's. The only reason America is mad is because they wanted to turn cuba into what puerto rico and the US virgin islands are now: American luxury islands it's all about imperialism. America wants to control the islands. |
Re: Somebody Lied "African-american" Ain't African by Nobody: 6:17pm On Apr 13, 2013 |
MsDarkSkin: INTERESTING! I wouldn't be surprised...You Jamaicans descend from warriors...The Ashanti/Akan people. Those people defeated the British in five wars. You guys should be proud. But not trying to disrespect Jamaica, but the 'naughty' slaves were sent to Jamaica as punishment, which is why Jamaicans were so hardcore. But I'm interested in the documentary. Please post if you can. |
Re: Somebody Lied "African-american" Ain't African by MrsChima(f): 6:17pm On Apr 13, 2013 |
I know damn well that jamo heffa ain't dissing hay hay? |
Re: Somebody Lied "African-american" Ain't African by Nobody: 6:22pm On Apr 13, 2013 |
MsDarkSkin: I'm just saying. A business unity can be made and it will benefit all groups. Even some Africans such as Ghananians ask why AA's don't invest in Africa. Again im just saying it can benefit all groups. MsDarkSkin:A lot of Haitians are also in Cuba and Jamaica. But the white cubans from Miami tend to be kinda racist, but not the mixed/black ones. MsDarkSkin: Yep. I think Puerto Rico has tried for independence multiple thinks. But I hear a lot of PR people are living great in the PR. I know a lot of PR friends that always travel to the PR. |
Re: Somebody Lied "African-american" Ain't African by MrsChima(f): 6:22pm On Apr 13, 2013 |
Oh yall were discussing my bad. Made me get my Shiva. |
Re: Somebody Lied "African-american" Ain't African by Nobody: 6:26pm On Apr 13, 2013 |
from: http://kimbangudiscoveries.com/kimbangu75.html Kimpa vita was burn July 2, 1706, she died with the name of true Jesus in her mouth and a great Star appeared at the place of her SACRIFICE. Kimpa vita was to reincarnate somewhere in the KONGO, a few days after his execution someone had indeed overview kimpa vita in mbanza kongo. this clearly isn't as detailed as the documentary i saw but it basically goes to show where we got most of our fighter spirit from. |
Re: Somebody Lied "African-american" Ain't African by Nobody: 6:26pm On Apr 13, 2013 |
Mrs.Chima: lol huh? im not dissing sis |
Re: Somebody Lied "African-american" Ain't African by MrsChima(f): 6:26pm On Apr 13, 2013 |
Kiddie...there are over 20k BA in Ghana living and holding businesses. I met a few when I was over there with hubby. They have a large community in Ghana and many are married to Ghanaians. |
Re: Somebody Lied "African-american" Ain't African by MrsChima(f): 6:29pm On Apr 13, 2013 |
MsDarkSkin: Okay just checking.. ..y'all gon have a good asz convo while I am at work and on this phone? Watch I get home yall gon be mia. |
Re: Somebody Lied "African-american" Ain't African by Nobody: 6:30pm On Apr 13, 2013 |
KidStranglehold: Oh yeah. Akan from Ghana..which is where "Queen Nanny" and her brothers Kuffi and Codjoe were born. That woman was a BEAST!! Imagine being on an island with Akan, Kongo/Angolan ppl? lol loads of scottish and Irish people LEFT! they couldn't take it. and of course the only reason we remained slaves was because of TRAITORS and guns. But it's true, the slaves from all of the colonies that were considered to be too much to handle were sent to Jamaica which was like a prison back then. They used to whip the slaves as soon as they got on the shore to evoke fear but it would only piss them off more. i can't tell you how many cane fields were burnt by pissed of Jamo slaves!! thats why some of my ppl are still crazy af today (even the women!). it's in the blood. But I'm interested in the documentary. Please post if you can. ^^i will look for it. |
Re: Somebody Lied "African-american" Ain't African by Nobody: 6:31pm On Apr 13, 2013 |
anyway tell me more about haiti...im an interested in your history. |
Re: Somebody Lied "African-american" Ain't African by Nobody: 6:31pm On Apr 13, 2013 |
Mrs.Chima: Now thats whats up... I know this may sound bizarre. But I think AA's should give Liberia another chance. The civil war in Liberia is over and the country is becoming more and more stable under the new female president. AA's always complain about how they don't have a home country, but here is Liberia. I say they should give it another shot. I know this is going to sound really stupid but America doesn't give all blacks a chance. I read that black Americans living in South Africa love it there instead of America, because they say there is more opportunities for a black person in SA. |
Re: Somebody Lied "African-american" Ain't African by Nobody: 6:32pm On Apr 13, 2013 |
Mrs.Chima: that's true. ghana has opened her arms to us and some of our ppl live there. |
Re: Somebody Lied "African-american" Ain't African by Nobody: 6:33pm On Apr 13, 2013 |
MsDarkSkin: Yep... I'm think about writing a novel of the Ashanti-British war. |
Re: Somebody Lied "African-american" Ain't African by Nobody: 6:34pm On Apr 13, 2013 |
KidStranglehold: funny thing is...most Liberians I KNOW actually want that. they are pro-reconciliation. but i don't get why some AAs feel the need to move to Africa though. I mean it's where we came from but it's not really "home". |
Re: Somebody Lied "African-american" Ain't African by MrsChima(f): 6:34pm On Apr 13, 2013 |
Let me get on pc. 1 Like |
Re: Somebody Lied "African-american" Ain't African by Nobody: 6:36pm On Apr 13, 2013 |
Mrs.Chima: Mrs.Chima: LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!! |
Re: Somebody Lied "African-american" Ain't African by Nobody: 6:36pm On Apr 13, 2013 |
Anyways I'm bored so I'm posting this...Here are some old Haitian photos. Emblem of Haitian Empire Emperor Soulouque Empress Adelina Princess Olivette Jean Philippe Ville Lubin Jean-Pierre Damien de Delva 1 Like |
Re: Somebody Lied "African-american" Ain't African by Nobody: 6:42pm On Apr 13, 2013 |
^^OH MYYYYYY!!! [size=28pt]GOD BLESS HAITI[/size]!! 1 Like |
Re: Somebody Lied "African-american" Ain't African by Nobody: 6:46pm On Apr 13, 2013 |
MsDarkSkin: The thing is MsDarkskin...AA's live in a WHITE dominated country. White people will never accept black people and will never really make black people equal to them. Here I'm mostly speaking for AA's. When AA's go to African countries like Ghana, Nigeria, South Africa,etc...They feel comfortable, because the people look like them and they don't have to worry about racism or bias. MsDarkskin I REALLY want blacks world wide to progress. If you look at the news Africa is progressing really fast. Angola economy is moving at a fast pace and in the future might be Africas star(Nigeria too if they get rid of their corruption). Even Portuguese people are moving to Angola. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-kSt-5ip94 ^^^That is the future. We will be seeing Non Africans moving into African nations. Portugal is not as rich as it was because it odes not have its colonies. Now I am not saying AA's should call Africa home, because it is not really their home. BUT in my humble opinion...If Africa does rise, develop and become more stable. I believe there will be much better opportunities in African countries for AA's. |
Re: Somebody Lied "African-american" Ain't African by Nobody: 6:47pm On Apr 13, 2013 |
My fellow half breeds im off to handle personal business. @kid im gonna search for the documentary and try to post it before the day is over. all i remember is it was shown on the history channel wish me luck ..take care guys!! |
Re: Somebody Lied "African-american" Ain't African by MrsChima1(f): 6:54pm On Apr 13, 2013 |
My understanding of Haiti's history is that Haiti and Dominic Republic are actually distant relatives. If you look at the map...Haiti and DR aren't that far apart. I have some cousins that can pass for DR but they have Black parents. I believe when the Spanish got involved with slavery and trading they also dabbled into copulation which birthed a few of our yellow folks in the Carrib. If you go to Miami which is Small Haiti...you will meet Spanish, French, and HC speaking Haitians. Well Liberia/ns is pretty much ex-slaves that were able to return home after being stolen or sold. There are some BA living in Liberia but not in the capacity similar to Ghana. Ghana is safer than Liberia and I am sure if Liberia was able to prove safety...more BA would follow suit. In the Volta region...there are lands only given to BA and Carrib alone. I met a man who built his home in that region and created several real estates such as hotels and he has been there for 20 years. He offered to mentor my friend who is BA and Chinese...but his azz looks Mexican. If I lose my job cos of yall...I am staying with one of yall. How am I gon explain to Chima I got fired cos I was chatting at work? |
Re: Somebody Lied "African-american" Ain't African by Nobody: 6:54pm On Apr 13, 2013 |
@kid, i know. im just saying we shouldn't try to force the issue "just because we are black". study this thread if you think otherwise : https://www.nairaland.com/1185790/thoughts-african-americans-moving-back i think if anything black americans should learn to take control of our economic situations while in america: start business, invest in our business and promote self reliance. the big "uprooting in the name of repatriation" wish some of our forefathers had is unrealistic however i feel cross-atlantic trading with each other would be the best option. i am happy for Angola's progress though, believe it but I don't think moving there as a people, is necessary. anyway..that's just my opinion. again..i gotta bounce. we can continue this later babes (talking about haiti). |
Re: Somebody Lied "African-american" Ain't African by MrsChima1(f): 7:08pm On Apr 13, 2013 |
KidStranglehold: I disagree with a few things you said...there aren't much opportunities for BA and Carribs in Nigeria and a few other African countries...however Ghana has proven that BA/Carribs can excel without opposition and with much support. As Ms Darkskin was saying no one has to return home just to prove they accept Africa as their home but it isn't really home to them if they have never lived there. See home is where you lay your head proudly regardless if you are on BA a stolen land or not. It is what you make of it. Now...looking back when Haiti was colonized by the Spanish and French but managed to become the first Black Nation to rule then other Black countries followed suit. America was stolen and bartered several times before it became United States of America....the stolen products, i.e slaves through oppression fought like bulls and now they are free however with perks that benefits other Blacks and minorities that didn't have a hand in it. However you may think that BAs would never equal to Whites...think about it...to be forced as a White person to give accommodations or considerations to those inferior or else jail time is nearby. If that isn't a victory for many slaves who have died to make sure BAs were able to have access to decent education, health, housing, employment, and vote. It is a long ways coming but anything is better than nothing. |
Re: Somebody Lied "African-american" Ain't African by MrsChima1(f): 7:12pm On Apr 13, 2013 |
MsDarkSkin: @kid, i know.I agree sis! Which is worse...opposition from those that looks like you or not? Exactly. |
Re: Somebody Lied "African-american" Ain't African by Blyss: 2:49am On Apr 14, 2013 |
KidStranglehold: LOL @ had our back; I won't comment on that one much further. As for being our closes Allie; it isn't like there was much else choice but for them to be so. |
Re: Somebody Lied "African-american" Ain't African by Blyss: 3:00am On Apr 14, 2013 |
MsDarkSkin: @kid, i know. Hold up, you aren't gonna be flip-flopping your tail on here like a fish out of water around here all day everyday. Let's set this record strait right now, are you, or are you not claiming AA? First you claim you're hard core Jamaican-American to the fullest, then you come with some ol we, us and I suff in this thread and others, as if you on claim with the top of the food chain African-Americans. So what's it gonna be, you game or are you lame? |
Re: Somebody Lied "African-american" Ain't African by Blyss: 3:05am On Apr 14, 2013 |
onila: looking for a smart handsome carribean man Damn, you must be planning on staying a virgin for the rest of your life if that's what you plan on waiting on to swing your way. |
Re: Somebody Lied "African-american" Ain't African by Nobody: 1:51pm On Apr 14, 2013 |
blyss you know better than to ask MsDarkSkin questions as if she owes you an explanation. Have a seat and be educated on WI history or bounce out of the thread. Simple. You're the LAST person on the FORUM with the right to question my intentions. Trust me. Go deal with your inferiority complex else where "mr. super pro african american but i swear i am an igbo despite thinking i am better than africans"...foh |
Re: Somebody Lied "African-american" Ain't African by Nobody: 1:56pm On Apr 14, 2013 |
Mrs..Chima: Naw Haitians and Dominicans are literally the same people only differing in language. The hatred for each other is the result of politics and self hatred on the part of Dominicans who do not want to be associated with Africans (racially). They claim to be Caribbean but they strongly dislike Haitians (political) and Africans (<<don't want to be classified as African..would rather be called Taino )...not all but some who happen to have the most influence over the island/culture. The Spaniards and the biracial Dominicans backs in the day had a vendetta against the Haitians and eventually they made it racial. They used to kill the Haitian immigrants or anyone who couldn't speak Spanish (who they suspected of being Haitian) to "cleanse" their part of the Island. I forgot what happened but Haiti and Dominican Rep. used to be "one" nation and the island is still called "Hispanola" but a series of conflicts happened and #boom. It was over. Kid shed some more light on this please.... |
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