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Re: Somebody Lied "African-american" Ain't African by Nobody: 2:02pm On Apr 14, 2013 |
Mrs..Chima: ^^100 percent agreed. Now...looking back when Haiti was colonized by the Spanish and French but managed to become the first Black Nation to rule then other Black countries followed suit. America was stolen and bartered several times before it became United States of America....the stolen products, i.e slaves through oppression fought like bulls and now they are free however with perks that benefits other Blacks and minorities that didn't have a hand in it. However you may think that BAs would never equal to Whites...think about it...to be forced as a White person to give accommodations or considerations to those inferior or else jail time is nearby. If that isn't a victory for many slaves who have died to make sure BAs were able to have access to decent education, health, housing, employment, and vote. That is a VEEEERY good point Mrs.Chima...very good. Mrs..Chima: Both are equally bad but I won't put myself in a position to be somewhere I know nothing about and can be used as a scapegoat or liability. Sorry. I'd like to visit someday and learn about how our forefathers lived...see what they saw but living there is out of the question. Hell! I don't even want to live in Europe or Asia lol. If I move away from the US I am going South of the US Border (from costa rica on down of course! lol Mexico NO NO! ) |
Re: Somebody Lied "African-american" Ain't African by Nobody: 2:20pm On Apr 14, 2013 |
MsDarkSkin: My fellow half breeds i'm still searching babes...i ain't forgot about yewww kid!! |
Re: Somebody Lied "African-american" Ain't African by Nobody: 2:50pm On Apr 14, 2013 |
MsDarkSkin: @kid, i know. I understand perfectly what you are saying. But I'm mostly talking about a business unity that would benefit all groups. You can't disagree with that. |
Re: Somebody Lied "African-american" Ain't African by Nobody: 3:00pm On Apr 14, 2013 |
Mrs..Chima: Good post. |
Re: Somebody Lied "African-american" Ain't African by Nobody: 3:14pm On Apr 14, 2013 |
MsDarkSkin: I will. But you did cover somethings... The beef between Haiti and Dominica Rep. goes back really far...Haiti use to occupy the Dominica Rep. and use to always try and control it. There use to be wars, but Dominica won their independence from Haiti. Then you have the case with the Dominican dictator Trujillo who really made it worse and even tried to white wash the DR by trying to immigrate large masses of white immigrates to the DR, similar to what other countries did to keep whites in full control. The self hatred and beef with Haitians mostly comes from Trujillo. But the more educated or Americanized Dominicans are not as ignorant as the Dominicans in the DR. I knew some Dominicans that acknowledged they had African DNA and I knew a lot of Dominicans on many sites that were well versed on African history and their African DNA. Yes their is self hatred in Dominicans like their is in AA's and heck most African descent people. But when you say Dominicans have self hatred, you have to be specific because not all of them do and its mostly the really dark skinned ones on the island that have that self hatred. Also the beer between Haitians and Dominicans in the USA is sometimes exaggerated(not saying it does not exist), MOST of the girls I dated where I live were Dominican and they knew I was part Haitian. I was even friends with some Dominicans and in my school Haitians and Dominicans got along. Also you are right about Haitians and Dominicans being the same. Dominicans are just more mixed that's all. I heard back in the 50/60's there was no border between Haiti and the Dominican Rep. If you spoke Spanish you would cross into the Dominican Rep. and if you spoke creole you would cross and live in Haiti. I think a real border was created in the 60's. But I do know that what ever language you spoke you would move to that country that spoke the language you spoke. |
Re: Somebody Lied "African-american" Ain't African by Nobody: 3:53pm On Apr 14, 2013 |
KidStranglehold: This trujillo person is viewed as a hero to ignorant dominicans. i remember watching a documentary about the "trinitario" gang and they named themselves after the "trinity" being the three men who freed them from haiti. that guy wasa nutjob...he even oppressed his own. But the more educated or Americanized Dominicans are not as ignorant as the Dominicans in the DR. I knew some Dominicans that acknowledged they had African DNA and I knew a lot of Dominicans on many sites that were well versed on African history and their African DNA. Yes their is self hatred in Dominicans like their is in AA's and heck most African descent people. But when you say Dominicans have self hatred, you have to be specific because not all of them do and its mostly the really dark skinned ones on the island that have that self hatred. i know. i said "some". i love dominicanos esp. the ones from up-north. (i got a few en mi familia too, as well as PRs and Cubans...my entire family is from the all over the caribbean come to think of it. .) but occasionally you meet some who still have the "island" mentality. ignorant ppl are found everywhere...that is something i have always said. education takes ppl a long way. the afro. latino movement that has gained some momentum esp. in the 2000s is a beautiful thing because for a long time afro. latinos were told to deny their history. Here is one dominican mami repping her ppl. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etF6ZFYoYAE (again..my point about jamo influence listen to how she raps *looks @ senior butthurt* ) Also the beer between Haitians and Dominicans in the USA is sometimes exaggerated(not saying it does not exist), MOST of the girls I dated where I live were Dominican and they knew I was part Haitian. I was even friends with some Dominicans and in my school Haitians and Dominicans got along. i know..in fact i know mad haitian-domi mixed folks/relationships. you guys are the same ppl FFS! we are all family and you will always have that one family member with issues. but you still love them. #caribbeanpride Also you are right about Haitians and Dominicans being the same. Dominicans are just more mixed that's all. I heard back in the 50/60's there was no border between Haiti and the Dominican Rep. If you spoke Spanish you would cross into the Dominican Rep. and if you spoke creole you would cross and live in Haiti. I think a real border was created in the 60's. But I do know that what ever language you spoke you would move to that country that spoke the language you spoke. the 60s?!! you sure about that? that wasn't long ago then...i always thought it was established during the civil conflicts. well..i've been educated... oh ya!! Babes...join me in this thread. https://www.nairaland.com/986707/what-top-5-black-cultural/5#15237750 |
Re: Somebody Lied "African-american" Ain't African by Nobody: 4:40pm On Apr 14, 2013 |
MsDarkSkin: Even Fidel Castro knew he was a nutjob and both almost went To war I think. And Trujillo was a mulatto himself... MsDarkSkin:Not you. I was just speaking in general. MsDarkSkin: I feel you. MsDarkSkin: I hear in Brazil the Afro-Brazilian population is gaining a voice and also this. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/17/brazil-census-african-brazilians-majority http://en.mercopress.com/2009/04/25/black-population-becomes-the-majority-in-brazil http://globalvoicesonline.org/2011/11/29/brazil-census-black-mixed-population/ A lot of Brazilians are starting to identify as black...I mean they should since the majority of their culture is African. Especially Capoeira... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeTaLmFd5LE Which is STILL practiced in Angola to the VERY DAY. MsDarkSkin: I love my Dominican girls. But yo check this video out. Very interesting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Qg4_wDOApU MsDarkSkin: yep. MsDarkSkin:Well I am not for certain that it was the 60s. But I DO KNOW that there was originally no true border that divided both Haiti and Dominica Rep. MsDarkSkin: Thread seems watsups. Will check it out. 1 Like |
Re: Somebody Lied "African-american" Ain't African by Nobody: 5:34pm On Apr 14, 2013 |
now this is interesting...^^ |
Re: Somebody Lied "African-american" Ain't African by Nobody: 4:25am On Apr 15, 2013 |
lol @ always seeing a "guest" on threads i've been in. anyway, Kid come here next time you check in bro. https://www.nairaland.com/986707/what-top-5-black-cultural/6#15245508 i wanna see some haitian delicacies on that thread. |
Re: Somebody Lied "African-american" Ain't African by Nobody: 7:00am On Apr 15, 2013 |
^^My post has been unhidden. |
Re: Somebody Lied "African-american" Ain't African by CAMNEWTON4PRES: 9:58am On Apr 15, 2013 |
MsDarkSkin: .HMMM |
Re: Somebody Lied "African-american" Ain't African by CAMNEWTON4PRES: 9:59am On Apr 15, 2013 |
KidStranglehold:hmm |
Re: Somebody Lied "African-american" Ain't African by CAMNEWTON4PRES: 10:03am On Apr 15, 2013 |
Hmm MsDarkSkin: @kid, i know. |
Re: Somebody Lied "African-american" Ain't African by CAMNEWTON4PRES: 10:08am On Apr 15, 2013 |
Can u people, move on, stop whining and address the Op? Stop derailing the Damn thread.......I guess yall know how to open a thread on this forum 1 Like |
Re: Somebody Lied "African-american" Ain't African by Nobody: 4:35pm On Apr 15, 2013 |
KidStranglehold: Lol if castro thought he was crazy they you KNOW he was cookoo lmao. Not you. I was just speaking in general. Oh OK. I hear in Brazil the Afro-Brazilian population is gaining a voice and also this. Yeah i read about it. Brazil is whats up though. Sad the blacks are the reason it has so much flavor, yet they were and still are in some areas, discriminated against. Brazil is definitely somewhere i would like to visit to see how life is there and to enjoy some brazilian bbq which i hear is the best in the world. I love my Dominican girls. Yeah dominicans are cool ppl. And the women know how to do some hair looool. Their blow outs are to die 4! I saw that video a few months ago. Im glad they are opening,their eyes. Its ok to rep being caribbean/latin/dominican...i mean lets face it dominicans are dominicans...period... But they cant deny their history. Well I am not for certain that it was the 60s. But I DO KNOW that there was originally no true border that divided both Haiti and Dominica Rep. I believe u. Thanks for the edu babes. i never knew that. I always thought it was long established. Thread seems watsups. Will check it out. Yeah man. Join us! In fact i got another thread im gonna make later..you'll like it |
Re: Somebody Lied "African-american" Ain't African by khia: 3:30am On Mar 10, 2015 |
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