But i hope expenditures of all sorts in xtian courtship are as forbidden as kissing,hugging and if possible banging cos if it's case is different, den i think imma stay alone cos i perceive "cheating" in such relationship..

Hugging- depends
kissing-its a sin.

Becacia_Barbie: Hugging- depends
kissing-its a sin.

Do you mind showing me the type of hugging you mean? Lol

Becacia_Barbie: Hugging- depends
kissing-its a sin.

Was Judas sinning when he kissed jesus? Abeg can you self-rightous twats shut up?

OP these are the same people who brought the Aids rate to like 6% in Nigeria, fake christians. Ignore their yeye advice and do what you want, if you are nothing fornicating your are fine.

Im sure you are doing better than 99% of these hypocrites trying to give you advice.

Lakayana: how can any mind be clear when you are rubbing those things hmm.

lolz, not everybody has a dirty mind

Pre marital Hugging, kissing, etc surely cannot be right.

Some people end up with about three fiance/fiancees before eventually tying the knot.

Do u realise how distasteful it must be to have kissed and hugged all of those people in d name of 'courtship'?

Is courtship in d bible?

My christian brethrens b not of equal yoke wit an unbeliver...DO NT B DECEIVED IF UR A CHRISTIAN AND U AV D TOT OF HUGING A CHRISTIAN BRODA IN A BEDRUM WAY/KISS..GO FOR DELIVERANCE..UR BACKSLIDING..GOD BLESS U ALL..HAPI SUNDAY

Becacia_Barbie: Hugging- depends
kissing-its a sin.

Do people realise that mammary glands are involved in hugging?

If one is lesser sef, I'd say it is kissing

rezzy: Im not a matured christian, im still growing. I think kissing is a sin because it can lead to bed stuff but hugging is not. My fiance and i have hugged like 5 times. I will ask him when we see on his on view on kissing.

So you even count the number of times that you guys have hugged. I pity the guy ooo

Yeah of cause kissing n hugging is sinful, (being sarcastic)

Let 4get d killers, paedophiles, thieves etc

Let's concentrate on kissing n hugging cos it hurts, it brings sadness n it makes people cry.

Yeah kissing n hugging is a sin I donno where it is written in d bible but since Nigerian where around when it was written I guess they kn best(sarcastic again).

deols: Pre marital Hugging, kissing, etc surely cannot be right.

Some people end up with about three fiance/fiancees before eventually tying the knot.

Do u realise how distasteful it must be to have kissed and hugged all of those people in d name of 'courtship'?

Is courtship in d bible?

But I bet pre-marital blackberry phone, going out to expensive places and gifts are allowed. Ooooshi!!

deols:

Do people realise that mammary glands are involved in hugging?

If one is lesser sef, I'd say it is kissing

sheeesh... well i'm glad there are still women like this in Nigeria.

Lemme guess you are muslim?

Jesus was said to have kissed his disciples a lot of time in the bible John the beloved? How did he mean beloved?

Can any christian explain what jesus meant in Mark 7:15. " There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man". Sounds Gay to me

ifeness: Jesus was said to have kissed his disciples a lot of time in the bible John the beloved? How did he mean beloved?

Can any christian explain what jesus meant in Mark 7:15. " There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man". Sounds Gay to me

by that he meant the dietary laws that applied to the Jews would no longer affect christians.

He was basically saying that w/e a christian eats is clean, even pork. You have to look at passages like that in the full context so you don't get the wrong idea.

As for the same sex kissing, that was common in the middle east and still is today... it is seem as no more sinfull than a handshake.

femiero:



But I bet pre-marital blackberry phone, going out to expensive places and gifts are allowed. Ooooshi!!

do you think evry1 is like the women you know?

Let that person who has ever paid my bills come out to show himself.

NONSENSE

babakb: you christians should accept the fact that you don't have do's and don'ts in your religion because its fake, you refuse to heed the call of jesus the son of mary ( ISA BIN MARYAM A.S ) King james version John 16, verse 12-13 "i have yet many things to say unto you but ye can not bear them now, Howbeit when he, the spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into truth for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak, and he will shew you things to come". Who fits this prophesy better than MUHAMMAD S.A.W we muslims believe in him and he has guided us unto the right path by ALLAH'S Will, of course you will be quick to bad mouth muslims calling us extremists, terrorists, killers, murderers, fundamentalists, conservatives etc you think that will make us inferior but its only making us superior, little wonder the richest countries in the world today remain muslim countries, the morally disciplined countries in the world remain muslim countries, the countries with high rate of STDs, violent crimes such as rape, armed robbery, kidnappings, all sorts of fraud and rebellion remain non muslim countries. Paul the founder of christianity has said it all King james version Rom 3, verse 7 "for if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory, why yet am i also judged as a sinner".

Shuush! U are a muslim so nobody expects you to understand the content of the bible, am not insulting you its just that you muslims are not just wired to grasp the content.
So stop showing how ignorant you are, after all had it been u were born in the South east or South south you'd be a christain- you don't have a choice( So open your eyes). The koran gave you muslims the right to marry under aged girls/kids,that's the kind morality Mohammed(SAW) taught you peeps -dont let me start plz.
@Op..Courtship is Courtship, I don't have the verses to drop here now but judging from the biblical teachings, Courtship is a Sin cos it promotes lust and lust is a sin. We are all humans(make una no dey pretend holy here) not robots or ghosts,blood flows through our veins not Vino tinto so the body will always function as it is programmed.
Now don't tell me during courtship you don't dream or lust after your partner(me dey lust/admire) or abi na Bance be your partner? So if that happens then you don't need a kiss or hug to be a sinner,just your eyes will make u one.

So the Bible tells us how to cordinate Our body/life.
The Koran also tells us how to cordinate our body/life .
. Our Body also does that too.

So live your life and use your Conscience.. You should be more worried about people starving in ethopia than expressing your love to ur spouse

Yes to some extent

pleep: sheeesh... well i'm glad there are still women like this in Nigeria.

Lemme guess you are muslim?

Yes sir, I am a Muslim

deols:
Yes sir, I am a Muslim

so muslim youths are not allowed to kiss too till they are married?

dont touch ooo dont kiss infact dont sample what youre gonna spend the rest of your life with at all..... stick to the old laws of old people..... OP i beg i no dey religious ooo but if you dey waka waka remember to protect yourself (Condom) Kissing and hugging are ways of showing affection.... if youre dating someone and cant show the person affection, then whats the point?

What happens to those dat cant do without kissin & huggin b4 marriage? wat is dia take?

ogaju007: dont touch ooo dont kiss infact dont sample what youre gonna spend the rest of your life with at all..... stick to the old laws of old people..... OP i beg i no dey religious ooo but if you dey waka waka remember to protect yourself (Condom) Kissing and hugging are ways of showing affection.... if youre dating someone and cant show the person affection, then whats the point?

show affection by exchanging gifts, frequent visits, excellent communication. kissing is a sin!

ss1930: What happens to those dat cant do without kissin & huggin b4 marriage? wat is dia take?

they should buy a fireproof jumpsuit for what is to come in the afterlife.

coogar:

show affection by exchanging gifts, frequent visits, excellent communication. kissing is a sin!



they should buy a fireproof jumpsuit for what is to come in the after life.

as simple as that !

coogar:

show affection by exchanging gifts, frequent visits, excellent communication. kissing is a sin!

how is buying gift in the equation of showing affection? u can visit someone a million times does it show affection? excellent communication how does that show affection? do you even know the meaning of the word affection? I give my sibblings gifts, visit them every week and we communicate very well does that mean we share that kinda affection? explain to me how kissing someone you love a sin......

nevderek: We need to know the concept of sin first.
What really is sin?

Did u know that commiting adultery is not the sin, rather disobeying God who asked u not commit adultery IS the sin?

Why was the King Saul rejected by God?
God actually said "thou shall not shed blood" and somewhere else you find the same God telling a man to annilhiliate totally a nation, sparing not even a beast. And in that context, sin would be NOT totally killing them people.
That was why King Saul failed; He disobeyed God by not killing all.

If you conduct a dilligent study of the chronicles of men and women God walked with back in the bible days, you'll discover things that will amaze you.
Lot and his family were instructed by an angel to run from Sodom and not look back, Lot's wife looked back and turned into a pillar of salt, but that same day Abraham was on the mountian looking directly into Soddom and Gomorrah as the angels rained fire on them.
To Lot and his family, looking back would be a sin which attracted immediate repercussions, to Abraham it wasnt.

what about the ark of covenant, a man tried to touch it and stop it from falling, he died at the spot yet Obodebom took it home and prospered.
To the man it was sinful, to Obedebom it was a commendable act with multiple blessings.

Samson sleeps with a LovePeddler yet God's spirit comes upon him the next moment when he's ready to fight.

Human beings with out societal norms and values try to define God and explain His ways. Jesus chided the Phasrisees and Sadducees for "making the word of God of ineffect by the reason of their traditions". He called them tombs, looking neat outside but full of dead, rotten particles inside.

To the one who's born again; Sin is not a set or list of actions that seems wrong, its an act of disobedience to a direct specific instruction from God at a particular time or given situation.
Sin to the christian is personal, Paul ate everything, even the meats the Jews called unclean, sacrificed to gods, but Peter wouldnt dare.

To the one who's not born again, sin has got nothing with what they do, it's their nature.. No matter how nice they may seem, no matter how right they behave, they are simply sinners, everything they do is sin. No wonder God says "their righteousness is a filthy rag to me".

NB: there are habits u dont exhibit, not cos they are sinful but cos they may put u in trouble, or put someone else in trouble.

Now is kissing and hugging sinful or not?
God didnt specify anywhere in the bible (infact Solomon did a lot of kissing with a girl he was in love with, songs of solomon and it's scripture!!!) so that leaves it to a personal level.
And personally to me, it aint.
Africa no fit tie me down

This is the real thing so on point.

coogar:

so muslim youths are not allowed to kiss too till they are married?

No. They are not.what the Quran says is->

'do not move near zina'

Zina=adultery or fornication.

Kissing, hugging, etc are ways of moving near
And if you don't move near it, there is no way of committing it

kissing in and of itself is not a sinful act (from the christian perspective) ... explain why Jesus kissed his deciples.

But in certain contextes it can be i guess...

Most of us are talkin abt kissing dat leads to sex,what about if u both cn control it and it will neva lead 2 sex until marriage do u still call dat sin?cos I see d main point here is dat it leads 2 sex.

My people perish for lack of knowledge..... go and read about the middle east and love after all this na where all these bible and quran things took place......

ubongutioh: Its not bad to kiss or hug ie 'good bye or welcome hug and kiss', however any kissing or hugging that is unduely prolonged or leads to sexual arousal is a sin.

Supported.The bible said,''whatsoever would lead you to sin,cut it off!if kissing would lead you to go down below,don't kiss(gbam!!)

africans can carry oyinbo religion for their head pass d oyinbo wey start d religion

I'll like to answer just for us to look at the issue of courting i've never see a passage in the bible wer u the scripture says u must court compulsorily before marriage, but from the meaning of courting i found dat it a period u express ur selves romantically mean while, some one did this in d bible am talkin in person of 'jacob' who kiss at first sight but imagine how many thing will happen before 14yrs in her father's house, it is not bad kissing in courtship but it is very tempting n Jesus teaches us to pray not to be tempted so aviod the greated sin of fornication is aviod been tempted.... marry quickly n aviod courting...this as my own view of the story am a bornagain xtian, I pray may the holy spirit guild us through the journey