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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Seun(m): 8:51pm On Jul 24, 2017
blingxx:
u got it all wrong ....if theon surrendered do you think euron or cersei will allow him to live ? he made a wise choice running away and come and fight another day
Is he actually going to escape by simply swimming away, though? It seems unrealistic that they couldn't send a few swimmers (or a couple of arrows) after such an important target.

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Nicolars(m): 8:51pm On Jul 24, 2017
What would you have done if you were theon .....? lipsrsealed undecided
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Nicolars(m): 8:52pm On Jul 24, 2017
Seun:
Is he actually going to escape by simply swimming away, though? It seems unrealistic that they couldn't send a few swimmers (or a couple of arrows) after such an important target.
euron doesn't see him as an important figute...

He sees him as a cockless coward

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Yonce(f): 8:53pm On Jul 24, 2017
GOTOlodo:


I know they are trying to display gender equality, but they kind of overdo it sometimes. It's more like they are demasculinizing the men in favor of the women.

Lets just be objective here. Meera is portrayed as a strong woman who protected a cripple Bran(male) from white walkers, fed him and pulled him on a wodden bed for months.

Brienne is portrayed as a powerful warrior who has fought against three of the most skillful warriors in Westeros, Loras, Jamie and Sandor, all male. And she defeated them all of them in single combat. She even held Jamie as prisoner for weeks. She also ended the life of Stannis.

All the Theon scenes with his Sister sort of makes my claim valid. The one when he was standing in front of Dany with his sister in episode 9 of season 6 was cringy. The grin on Dany's face. Sigh. Then you have the scene in the previous episode with Ellaria bossing him around. Lol.

Then there is Lady Lyanna Mormont talking down harshly at older men, all the time.

Currently, all the shows powerful characters are all female, except Jon. The males are subservient to them. It's like they killed off all the men, or cut off their balls, or sent them on long errands so that the women would occupy positions of power.

Maybe I am over thinking this, but it just seems too over the top for a show set in mediaeval times.

This was refreshing to read!!!

And to think the producers are male. . . Even the author is male. cheesy

That being said, it is a nice and welcome dynamic to see women take the lead especially on a show with a worldwide audience despite the medieval setting.

I see the feminism on the show as a way to balance all the female brutality by villains like Joff, Walder Frey, Ramsey, Meryn Tyrant and even Viserys. It seems fair to me. Let the women lead for once. smiley

Maybe you only think they're overdoing it now because of the lack of male rulers who have all met their demise. I like how GRRM incoporates the consequences of sexism and female brutality in his works. It's subtle but it's there.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Nobody: 8:54pm On Jul 24, 2017
Seun:
When Euron easily defeated two female warriors and displayed their bodies for all to see, and captured 3 others in order to humiliate them first before they are killed, was that part of the over the top feminism you're complaining about? Or is the fact that every attractive adult actress on the show must show her boobies part of the feminism?

What I've noticed is that they are setting up a battle of the queens, and I quite like it. The kings destroyed each other earlier, and now the queens are trying to do the same. And when they are done, the white walkers will kill the survivors.

I think you are misunderstanding me. I elaborated on my opinion couple of posts above this one.

I think the writers of the show are trying to please everyone. Including the SJWs. I mean, the main aim of the show is for it to sell, so why not make everyone happy so as to accommodate everyone within the show's audience. Or they have a subtle agenda supported from the outside. Whichever.

Maybe in am too observant, but I have noticed this theme of over the top mainstream feminism in many scenes, not just the ones I talked about.

I have studied so much about the gender situation currently plaguing our world, especially in the West, to just think this is a harmless case of gender equality and directors and writers trying to balance things out in their portrayal of male and female characters.

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Nicolars(m): 8:56pm On Jul 24, 2017
Yonce:


This was refreshing to read!!!

And to think the producers are male. . . Even the author is male. cheesy

That being said, it is a nice and welcome dynamic to see women take the lead especially on a show with a worldwide audience despite the medieval setting.

I see the feminism on the show as a way to balance all the female brutality by villains like Joff, Walder Frey, Ramsey, Meryn Tyrant and even Viserys. It seems fair to me. Let the women lead for once. smiley

Maybe you only think they're overdoing it now because of the lack of male rulers who have all met their demise. I like how GRRM incoporates the consequences of sexism and female brutality in his works. It's subtle but it's there.
Zero guys
I don't think the movie is concerned about feminism or anything related

Guess its all just coincidence... Like Seun said... How come euron(male) defeated the sand snakes....
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by BCISLTD: 8:58pm On Jul 24, 2017
I swear I did "weldone" when those dorn girls where talking about killing the mountain ...they died like fouls
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Yonce(f): 9:00pm On Jul 24, 2017
GOTOlodo:


I think you are misunderstanding me. I elaborated on my opinion couple of posts above this one.

I think the writers of the show are trying to please everyone. Including the SJWs. I mean, the main aim of the show is for it to sell, so why not make everyone happy so as to accommodate everyone within the show's audience. Or they have a subtle agenda supported from the outside. Whichever.

Maybe in am too observant, but I have noticed this theme of over the top mainstream feminism in many scenes, not just the ones I talked about.

I have studied so much about the current gender situation currently plaguing our world, especially in the West, to just think this is a harmless case of gender equality and directors and writers trying to balance things out in their portrayal of male and female characters.

A few episodes where women seemingly lead after seasons of enduring rape, arranged marriages and violence doesn't mean they're overdoing it.

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by nymphomaniac(m): 9:00pm On Jul 24, 2017
U guys on this thread are funny. First and foremost, i didnt think unsullied meant virgin in the GOT context until i saw this episode 2. Well, missandei will really be hurt when greyworm dies. Secondly, dany will take rash decisions now that her plans have been partially foiled by euron. I am guessing she will ride into battle after seeing jon and lose one of her dragons that will now be turned to a walker. Sansa on the other hand must resist temptation! Baelish is the devil and i cant say who i despise more between himself and varys
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Nobody: 9:01pm On Jul 24, 2017
simi4me:
watching the new episode over and over again, yet I can't bring myself to watch the love making scene of grey worm and misendei. seriously what was grey worm doing self? imagine the sexy and beautiful misendei wasting.

@ bolded. What Jon was doing to Ygritte.

Na wao o. Must sex always be just about penile penetration?

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by simi4me(m): 9:01pm On Jul 24, 2017
if Jon Snow goes to dragonstone and mistakenly bend the knee for deanerys, I will kill him with my bare hands. nonsense, why the two queens want the Prince that was promised to bend the knee is what is annoying me.

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Yonce(f): 9:01pm On Jul 24, 2017
Nicolars:

Zero guys
I don't think the movie is concerned about feminism or anything related

Guess its all just coincidence... Like Seun said... How come euron(male) defeated the sand snakes....

Can't be coincidence, all the men who were misogynistic and sexist are dead. Died horribly actually.
Save for Ned and Robb.

I think it's punishment. grin
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by BCISLTD: 9:02pm On Jul 24, 2017
Seun:
When Euron easily defeated two female warriors and displayed their bodies for all to see, and captured 3 others in order to humiliate them first before they are killed, was that part of the over the top feminism you're complaining about? Or is the fact that every attractive adult actress on the show must show her boobies part of the feminism?

What I've noticed is that they are setting up a battle of the queens, and I quite like it. The kings destroyed each other earlier, and now the queens are trying to do the same. And when they are done, the white walkers will kill the survivors.


Seun stop referring to those smallies as warriors ..they are only good for sneak attacks...

Even ariya is no good...they'll kill her like chicken too
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by nymphomaniac(m): 9:02pm On Jul 24, 2017
Enough of the feminist talk abeg. The men have had their say in GOT and failed except jon snow. Besides the ultimate winner the night king is male so it doesnt really matter which gender dominates
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by simi4me(m): 9:02pm On Jul 24, 2017
BCISLTD:
I swear I did "weldone" when those dorn girls where talking about killing the mountain ...they died like fouls


lol. I was like see this idiots talking about taking the mountain.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Coyotejack(m): 9:04pm On Jul 24, 2017
Seun:
Is he actually going to escape by simply swimming away, though? It seems unrealistic that they couldn't send a few swimmers (or a couple of arrows) after such an important target.

I think euron taunting theon was a point he wanted to prove to yara about his cowardice. And since euron got what he came for no need for scraps(theon)

I just hope he redeems his image cause I cannot imagine after taking chances on you u exhibit such.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by BCISLTD: 9:04pm On Jul 24, 2017
simi4me:
if Jon Snow goes to dragonstone and mistakenly bend the knee for deanerys, I will kill him with my bare hands. nonsense, why the two queens want the Prince that was promised to bend the knee is what is annoying me.

It's called stooping to conquer....they'll properly shag afterwards..but ain't they related?
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by simi4me(m): 9:06pm On Jul 24, 2017
GOTOlodo:

@ bolded. What Jon was doing to Ygritte.
Na wao o. Must sex always be just about penile penetration?
Jon did a lot more than just using his tongue with Ygritte.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Nicolars(m): 9:06pm On Jul 24, 2017
Yonce:


Can't be coincidence, all the men who were misogynistic and sexist are dead. Died horribly actually.
Save for Ned and Robb.

I think it's punishment. grin
lol
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by nymphomaniac(m): 9:07pm On Jul 24, 2017
I certainly hope yara isnt dead. Her character trait is unique not to talk of her undying love for her brother. Also, bisexual ladies are a turn on! Euron on the other hand is a mad man. His lines are epic! What a tag team he would have made with ramsey and aegon if they all met
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Yonce(f): 9:08pm On Jul 24, 2017
Coyotejack:


I think euron taunting theon was a point he wanted to prove to yara about his cowardice. And since euron got what he came for no need for scraps(theon)

I just hope he redeems his image cause I cannot imagine after taking chances on you u exhibit such.

Theon isn't scrap. If anything happens to Yara, he's the true heir to the Ironlands.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by dubylhover(m): 9:09pm On Jul 24, 2017
Nicolars:

Zero guys
I don't think the movie is concerned about feminism or anything related

Guess its all just coincidence... Like Seun said... How come euron(male) defeated the sand snakes....

but you do know g.r. martin is a very strong feminist right
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by simi4me(m): 9:09pm On Jul 24, 2017
BCISLTD:


It's called stooping to conquer....they'll properly shag afterwards..but ain't they related?

yes they are related, but the taigeyens are known for inbreeding.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by nymphomaniac(m): 9:10pm On Jul 24, 2017
simi4me:


lol. I was like see this idiots talking about taking the mountain.
maybe its sex they wanted from him cos killing him is impossible. At least not by the dornish snakes
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by BCISLTD: 9:10pm On Jul 24, 2017
nymphomaniac:
I certainly hope yara isnt dead. Her character trait is unique not to talk of her undying love for her brother. Also, bisexual ladies are a turn on! Euron on the other hand is a mad man. His lines are epic! What a tag team he would have made with ramsey and aegon if they all met


That dude is annoying to look at...but as usual..GOT will let him get away with unimaginable things

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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Coyotejack(m): 9:10pm On Jul 24, 2017
simi4me:
if Jon Snow goes to dragonstone and mistakenly bend the knee for deanerys, I will kill him with my bare hands. nonsense, why the two queens want the Prince that was promised to bend the knee is what is annoying me.

Lol at the bolded.
I personally had issues with that stmt when I heard it , Jon won't necessarily bend a knee they would reach some sort of agreement where Dany would let Jon mine obsidian and fight the army of the dead in exchange for something.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Nobody: 9:11pm On Jul 24, 2017
Yonce:


A few episodes where women seemingly lead after seasons of enduring rape, arranged marriages and violence doesn't mean they're overdoing it.

What you just said is the only loop hole in my argument, which i acknowledge. But if what I claim is right, and if the over the top mainstream feminism in the later, MORE POPULAR episodes is intended and systematically incorporated into the show in order to further an agenda, then your argument is just an intelligent diversion. More like a subtle excuse. It's like wanting to kill someone but in other to kill him, you have to create an excuse or allowance. So you hypnotize him to attack you, then you kill him in self defense.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by BCISLTD: 9:12pm On Jul 24, 2017
simi4me:


yes they are related, but the taigeyens are known for inbreeding.

But his hair though..all the bloodlines on GOT all have same hair color..how Jon own take different
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Coyotejack(m): 9:13pm On Jul 24, 2017
Yonce:


Theon isn't scrap. If anything happens to Yara, he's the true heir to the Ironlands.

Then I spit at the iron islands cause the naval fleet won't follow theon that I can assure u . Ramsey really did a number on him. Cause the Reek I am seeing won't even have half a ball to lay claim to his rightful birthright.

But I still hope Reek reedems his image.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Nicolars(m): 9:14pm On Jul 24, 2017
dubylhover:


but you do know g.r. martin is a very strong feminist right
well that's new
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by simi4me(m): 9:15pm On Jul 24, 2017
Coyotejack:


Lol at the bolded.
I personally had issues with that stmt when I heard it , Jon won't necessarily bend a knee they would reach some sort of agreement where Dany would let Jon mine obsidian and fight the army of the dead in exchange for something.

they had better reach an agreement of some sort that doesn't involve him bending the knee or else I will kill him with my bare hands and this time, even the lord of light won't be able to bring him back.
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by nymphomaniac(m): 9:15pm On Jul 24, 2017
BCISLTD:



That dude is annoying to look at...but as usual..GOT will let him get away with unimaginable things
he is the main bad guy now nah. What do u expect? In other news, i wonder why dany didnt just march straight to kings landing with her army and dragons...she would still win the war. I think tyrion is still trying diplomacy so his lannister line can survive and he wont be the last sha..look where that has left them. Lastly....BALON THE DREAD!!

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