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Re: Let Muslims Be Muslim by akandejames: 2:59pm On Apr 05, 2013
Samsantos9:
I jews and some christians practise monotheism.
BTW I don't know why Muhammed loves refering to christians a Jews if it were to be the other way around you would be crying foul.

please pardon my response if it sounds rude or distasteful. i do not mean any wrong but just to answer d questn Samsantos9 asked...

to correct your impression, whatever quotation that comes from the Qurán is from God (Allah) and not Muhammad. Muhammad was just a channel through which the messages were relayed to the world.

if i understand your curiosity, Allah created us all and gave the prestige of prophet-hood to the jews. they were foremost as many prophet came from them.they were given the Torah however they went renegade and next in line was the Christians who were given the injeel (not the same bible we see today). they also mixed up the religious beliefs after Christ departed. Finally, the last revelation (the Qurán) given to Muhammad (from the same source-God)spells out what had preceded it in the former religions books, what the jews and christians did including warnings not to follow their wrong path which resulted in their loss.

like the yoruba adage goes, "A person who falls in a pit will be a lesson to others".
if u have any question and u seek to know more, i prefer a one on one in my inbox (akande.james1@gmail.com)

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Re: Let Muslims Be Muslim by bintalabi(f): 3:11pm On Apr 05, 2013
[quote author=kponke denge]Dos dis mean dat de wuld stop their 72 virgins hunt[/quote

can u pls quote the verse of the Quran that talked about 72 VIRGINS? else u are AMUKUNMEKO

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Re: Let Muslims Be Muslim by akandejames: 3:21pm On Apr 05, 2013
nwando:

[size=18pt]Be whatever you wanna be
Profess who you are from the rooftops
Worship whomever you wanna worship but please allow us to live and exist in peace
That is all we ask
Allow us to practice our faith or non faith the way we choose without molestation and without threats to our lives
That is our plea and the plea from the rest of the world to you and yours
Please help us spread that message
Thank you [/size]

u r really funny oga @ the top. you have chosen to believe in what pleases ur mind but thats ur biz anyway. look at the world and everywhere around u, i mean the world at large. The Muslims should be saying what u just said so don't mix things up. Let us Be mehn..... one group has been singled out to be demonized so that a RIGHTEOUS KILL IS INEVITABLE.. the funny thing is while we bleed to death killing each other, the ultimate aim of those fanning the embers of chaos is mass depopulation of the human race whether you are christian or Muslim. it only appeals to you when u learn a so called thug pretending to be a muslim leads the terror squad financed by chains of billionare vampires in the WEST. like i said, its a Lord of the rings script playing out itself. "ONE RING TO RULE THEM ALL". u will see when u connect the dots bro. Fuuuuck ILLUMINATI

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Re: Let Muslims Be Muslim by Damon03(m): 3:24pm On Apr 05, 2013
Emmy35: This article is on point!!!!! I'm not a muslim but i enjoyed d article and even changed it 2 fit christianity. Nice 1
U be correct person

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Re: Let Muslims Be Muslim by akandejames: 3:24pm On Apr 05, 2013
[quote author=bintalabi][/quote]
dont go too far, read songs of solomon till you find you answer bodoo grin
Re: Let Muslims Be Muslim by victorD3: 3:33pm On Apr 05, 2013
To avoid offensive post, please stop baning and hiding posts.
Re: Let Muslims Be Muslim by muskpeas: 3:39pm On Apr 05, 2013
hayubee: Jazak Allahu broda 4 U̶̲̥̅̊Я post
I c some ppl sayin Islam is a violent religion just because of what muslims ok let's be logical Rev. King who killed his church members how many ppl has blamed d christian 4 it, the crusaders that killed innocent ppl all in d name of religion who has blamed christianity 4 that. U see der are black sheep in every community don't judge islam by what muslims do judge by d holy quran nd hadith.


Kindly name any group of persons who gather for the singular reason to defend , fight n terrorise in d name of christianity?? MASSOB, OPC, MEND whatever may have so-called christian members..doesn't mean they overtly or covertly are fighting for the rights of christians..Revd King is a jst a man who did what he did cos of personal albeit faith convictions..you mentions d Crusaders of d middle ages and forgot the Saraceans they fought against with..
SIMPLY put Islam is a religion of half-truths..muslims are too quick to cry foul, to quick to feel their religion is threatened and of course to quick to kill in d name of justifying what they felt was foul or a threat...
Even on Nairaland.."Ensure ur post is not offensive to islam"..crap crap crap!! If muslims could curtail their blood letting brothers, then perhaps the whole world won't hate islam this much.!

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Re: Let Muslims Be Muslim by kevoh(m): 3:44pm On Apr 05, 2013
Kai OP, God will bless you for this write up. Once again I say God will bless you my brother. I like the way you typed your post without necessarily insulting anyone, if only we could have more Nigerians like you.

I am not a muslim though but I understand you perfectly,IMHO, the summary of your write up is just being a good role model no matter who you are or the religion you practice.

I have a muslim female colleague (engineer), who happens to be my best friend (lol) at work and I can vouch for her in terms of being intelligent (as an engineer) and a true muslim any day any time.#TrueTalk. Now that's a true role model I would like not all these fake girls who know nothing else than to put on heavy makeup and expose all their body parts to the world.

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Re: Let Muslims Be Muslim by ajaolopa: 3:45pm On Apr 05, 2013
ugotuf: REPUTATION CAN NEVER BE CORRECTED WITH PROPAGANDA.AND BESIDES,A GOOD WINE NEEDS NO BUSHING
but au wuld u know its good if u dont taste it?au wuld u know wat Islam is really all about if u are afraid of trying it or even knowing about it?..anyway d truth is dat if you,my friend were to sit down with an open heart free of bias and prejudice to learn about Islam,you probably will most likely change u opinions at d very least,dat is if u dont revert....wanna try?u can reach me on 08105248588...i can tell u certain things u dont know while at same time listen to what i dont know about Xtianity
Re: Let Muslims Be Muslim by ajaolopa: 3:54pm On Apr 05, 2013
akande.james:


u r really funny oga @ the top. you have chosen to believe in what pleases ur mind but thats ur biz anyway. look at the world and everywhere around u, i mean the world at large. The Muslims should be saying what u just said so don't mix things up. Let us Be mehn..... one group has been singled out to be demonized so that a RIGHTEOUS KILL IS INEVITABLE.. the funny thing is while we bleed to death killing each other, the ultimate aim of those fanning the embers of chaos is mass depopulation of the human race whether you are christian or Muslim. it only appeals to you when u learn a so called thug pretending to be a muslim leads the terror squad financed by chains of billionare vampires in the WEST. like i said, its a Lord of the rings script playing out itself. "ONE RING TO RULE THEM ALL". u will see when u connect the dots bro. Fuuuuck ILLUMINATI
thank you for the connection...at tyms i feel pity for my friends and colleagues who r Xtians...some pple are just riding them without dem realizing it...the truth dat the illuminatis and the free masons will continue in their attempts to demonize Islam...cause it is dat religion dat makes u see God as God and not something else or part of a trinity....Alhamdullilah...Allah has sworn to protect His religion even if we dont...cos at tyms i wonder au its even possible that we muslims can still proudly lift our heads high and profess our faith despite all dis blackmail in d name of Islamic terrorism and fundamentalism...Alhamdullilah

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Re: Let Muslims Be Muslim by Mintayo(m): 3:55pm On Apr 05, 2013
BetaThings: A post full of insight, lessons and logic

There is nothing better for Muslims than to take the advice to set enviable examples - Honesty, civility, excellent work ethics, academic industry, non-violence etc. There is nothing to add really

Following the poster's advice will increase the weight of our voice when speak on issues including those "popular" trends that go against our religion. People will know that "Muslims don't fool around" and when they speak they are serious

As for the societal issues, I have some things to point out

Christians are the most insincere people in this country when it comes to the issue of secularity

A

2011 - Christians spoke loudly against Islamic Banking. Their reasons:
1. Nigeria is a secular country. Some people are trying to Islamise the country
2. It will further polarise the country. Boko Haram will take advantage of it
3. There will be call for "Amadioha" banking, "Oro" Banking etc
Please note that Islamic Banking does not cost the government money. I set it up with my money, CBN approves its licence and regulates its operations

2012 - the FCTA using Federal Govt Money built a National Christmas Tree. It was commissioned by Dame Patience Jonathan, First lady. Cardinal Onayekan was there. Ministers, members of diplomatic corps were also there

1. Now was that a constitutional act under a secular constitution?
2. Would it not polarise the country? Would Boko Haram be happy?
3. Would there be no call for "Amadioha" or "Oro" National Tree?

B
Zamfara declared Sharia. Every opportunity was taken to criticise it and raise alarm
Plateau state declared itself a Christian state. Nobody has uttered any word about Christianisation

C
Osun state changes the appellation of the state from Livinspring to Virtuous, CAN says the Gov wants to Islamise the state. They want an explanation of the change
Now what is the argument? CAN says that Christians regard Jesus as Livingspring, perhaps that is why the Muslim Gov wants to change the name, although some people have argued that Livingspring refers to Osun river

But let us look at this. If a state has a name that has Christian connotation, is it not an attempt at Christianisation? Did Muslims protest then? Or is it constitutional in Nigeria to Christianise a state but unlawful to Islamise it? Was an explanation given to people when it was so given the name with Christian connotation?

D
To be fair, CAN also states that the state schedule meetings for Sundays when people should be going to Church. Maybe that is unfair
But the state schedules meetings for Fridays when people should be going to the Mosque
Maybe we should make Friday workfree and go to work on Saturdays
That way Muslims don't have to take permission from work to go and pray on Fridays; Christians don't take permission from work to go to Church on Sundays
And at least we would have solved the problem of that girl (and her likes) who was beaten for putting on the hijab just outside the school gate on her way to Jumat service on a Friday

its just a pity that you have diverted from what the poster was trying to say. You have actually made this topic irrelevant.
Just as you said christains are insincere,you have just shone that you are hypocrites and biased.
There is nothing wrong in a girl wearing hijab to a school as long as it is a muslim school, the school rules and regulations allow it,a government school(there is nothin like a secular school).
Nobody will stop a muslim lady from wearing hijab in a federal university compared to a private university like convenant.
Re: Let Muslims Be Muslim by damas11111(m): 3:57pm On Apr 05, 2013
NubiLove: Let Muslims be Muslim?... But Muslims would not let Christians be Christians! Muslim terrorists and thugs bomb, kill and maim Christians in their houses and churches and even the high status Muslims like El-Rufai, Buhari, Atiku see nothing wrong when innocent Christians are killed?...


Why don't you read the post before commenting? Or better still do not comment if you've got o time to read.

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Re: Let Muslims Be Muslim by akandejames: 4:12pm On Apr 05, 2013
aja olopa:
thank you for the connection...at tyms i feel pity for my friends and colleagues who r Xtians...some pple are just riding them without dem realizing it...the truth dat the illuminatis and the free masons will continue in their attempts to demonize Islam...cause it is dat religion dat makes u see God as God and not something else or part of a trinity....Alhamdullilah...Allah has sworn to protect His religion even if we dont...cos at tyms i wonder au its even possible that we muslims can still proudly lift our heads high and profess our faith despite all dis blackmail in d name of Islamic terrorism and fundamentalism...Alhamdullilah

my role model @ the top joor.
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Re: Let Muslims Be Muslim by akandejames: 4:17pm On Apr 05, 2013
my role model @ the top joor

Re: Let Muslims Be Muslim by aryzgreat: 4:20pm On Apr 05, 2013
Can't muslim be muslim without bringing xtianity into ur write up? U pple hate jews and xtians FACT! The hatred translates to terrorism against them. QED

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Re: Let Muslims Be Muslim by bukatyne(f): 4:23pm On Apr 05, 2013
BetaThings: A post full of insight, lessons and logic

There is nothing better for Muslims than to take the advice to set enviable examples - Honesty, civility, excellent work ethics, academic industry, non-violence etc. There is nothing to add really

Following the poster's advice will increase the weight of our voice when speak on issues including those "popular" trends that go against our religion. People will know that "Muslims don't fool around" and when they speak they are serious

As for the societal issues, I have some things to point out

Christians are the most insincere people in this country when it comes to the issue of secularity

A

2011 - Christians spoke loudly against Islamic Banking. Their reasons:
1. Nigeria is a secular country. Some people are trying to Islamise the country
2. It will further polarise the country. Boko Haram will take advantage of it
3. There will be call for "Amadioha" banking, "Oro" Banking etc
Please note that Islamic Banking does not cost the government money. I set it up with my money, CBN approves its licence and regulates its operations

2012 - the FCTA using Federal Govt Money built a National Christmas Tree. It was commissioned by Dame Patience Jonathan, First lady. Cardinal Onayekan was there. Ministers, members of diplomatic corps were also there

1. Now was that a constitutional act under a secular constitution?
2. Would it not polarise the country? Would Boko Haram be happy?
3. Would there be no call for "Amadioha" or "Oro" National Tree?

B
Zamfara declared Sharia. Every opportunity was taken to criticise it and raise alarm
Plateau state declared itself a Christian state. Nobody has uttered any word about Christianisation

C
Osun state changes the appellation of the state from Livinspring to Virtuous, CAN says the Gov wants to Islamise the state. They want an explanation of the change
Now what is the argument? CAN says that Christians regard Jesus as Livingspring, perhaps that is why the Muslim Gov wants to change the name, although some people have argued that Livingspring refers to Osun river

But let us look at this. If a state has a name that has Christian connotation, is it not an attempt at Christianisation? Did Muslims protest then? Or is it constitutional in Nigeria to Christianise a state but unlawful to Islamise it? Was an explanation given to people when it was so given the name with Christian connotation?

D
To be fair, CAN also states that the state schedule meetings for Sundays when people should be going to Church. Maybe that is unfair
But the state schedules meetings for Fridays when people should be going to the Mosque
Maybe we should make Friday workfree and go to work on Saturdays
That way Muslims don't have to take permission from work to go and pray on Fridays; Christians don't take permission from work to go to Church on Sundays
And at least we would have solved the problem of that girl (and her likes) who was beaten for putting on the hijab just outside the school gate on her way to Jumat service on a Friday

You just ruined the purpose of this thread.

Everyone would have read it and applied in ways he/she felt it applied to him or her.
Re: Let Muslims Be Muslim by akandejames: 4:42pm On Apr 05, 2013
aryzgreat: Can't muslim be muslim without bringing xtianity into ur write up? U pple hate jews and xtians FACT! The hatred translates to terrorism against them. QED

hmmm. you guys have been Liars from ages. darm liars. expert liars though few are different. demonizing muslims now u talk of hate. who hated who in the first place. you run all the media houses in the whole would and all you do is lie, trample on our rights to exist, freedom of speech, freedom to dress as we please yet you say we hate u. nope we don't.

i have 2 personal experiences.

1. a parent who has a kid in kindergarten class complained that the teacher teaches his son that Muhammad stole their food while praying before breakfast (but she actually kept them) in the class but Jesus (A.S) returned it when they closed their eyes again. he accused the teacher but she said , "we are serving the same God".

2. while serving in Akwa Ibom, i came across a book distributed by pastors to church goers in south south nigeria terribly lying about islam.

You are the jealous one and haters oga. you have been taught never to think of anything good about muslims even in the churches cos i was once in the church. WE WERE TAUGHT TO HATE MUSLIMS. change for good
Re: Let Muslims Be Muslim by COOLDK(m): 5:01pm On Apr 05, 2013
Firstly let me say kudos to the OP and everyone who endeavor to comment.

Allah(SWT) says in d holy quran
"......I do not worship what you worship
Nor are you worshiper of what I worship
Nor will I be a worshiper of what you worship
Nor will you be a worshiper of what I worship
To you belongs your religion and to me belongs mine"

And it is also said in d bible that "Leave what belongs to khesari to khesari (not sure about khesari spelling though).

So i dont know the root of the fight and arguments since it is revealed in both books that other religion exist.

And the press are not helping the situation at all. I dont know why they will always refer to a group of terrorist as "the Islamic sect" at all time.
Re: Let Muslims Be Muslim by Azedplus(m): 5:02pm On Apr 05, 2013
Nice write up , for people complaining about the warning not to post anything anti-islam, it means u all are learners because every sections in nairaland has its rules and moderator,its not only here u find posts being hide or banned.so its unfair to claim its about islam section moderator
Re: Let Muslims Be Muslim by omodapson(m): 5:05pm On Apr 05, 2013
tbaba1234: This piece was written by my very good friend and beloved brother as a note on facebook. He has a nairaland account so i'm sharing it using his nairaland username.


Let Muslims Be Muslim
by Ajii20 (https://www.nairaland.com/ajii20)



So much religion, little godliness! This was recently the personal message of one of my Blackberry contacts. Though I didn't ask what the situation was, I have had several experiences that I need not ask him before agreeing with him. A lady who once tried to introduce her religion to me and told me how “cool” I was and how I can’t be a true Muslim because I wasn't “violent” was the same person who when she needed money asked if I could help her by bending the rules of a Call for Tender process. Many of our Contractors usually register more than one Company or have influence in more than one Company so she would suggest to me the Companies to invite for the Tender together with her main Company. In the end, she will be the one submitting all the quotations under different names so whichever Company is awarded the Tender, it’s a win-win for her. In her mind, she was only helping herself and this has nothing to do with morality, ethics or godliness. I was also at the immigration service recently to renew my passport and despite the effort of some officers to ensure orderliness, there were some individuals of course with the collusion of some officers who try to bend the rules and jump the queue. Whichever religion we belong to, we seem to be more focused on an outward display of religion without internalizing the values of the religion. Our cars bear different stickers of praises, we place the holy books and rosaries or tesbihs on our dashboards and there are religious houses at every nook and corner of our streets. Yet there is so much immorality and corruption that pervade the land. We all want to have our way all cost, be rich through any means and we probably believe we can launder such filthy lucre by donating a part of it to “God”.

This is just a digression and not the main subject of my note. Today, a religious crisis is brewing in Lagos State. And this is not about the recent busting of a suspected book haram hide-out but the harassment of female Muslim students who have chosen freely to use the hijab. Two of these students were flogged recently by their Principals and this caused an outcry from the Muslim societies around the country but Lagos in particular. I hear that a petition has been written to the Lagos State House of Assembly by MURIC (Muslim Rights Concern) and an ad-hoc committee has been set-up by the House to consider passing a law banning or authorizing the use of hijab. Some argue that Nigeria is a secular State and the State should not be seen passing laws that seem to promote a particular religion but the protagonist of this line of argument fail to admit that most of the systems we practice today were from colonial masters who were Christians. The supposed “secularism” is in favour of one religion more than the other. I still say that the use of the Gregorian calendar (January-December) and observing weekends on Saturday and Sunday (which are Sabbath days depending on the church denomination) have their roots in Christianity. The fact that we have lived this way for long does not make them secular. What is this secularism “sef”? Really, it is a word that I am yet to fully grasp its meanings. Does it mean we should forget about all religions or we should accept all religions? If we were to forget about all religions, then in Nigeria we should not have holidays such as Easter, Christmas, Eid-el-Fitr, Eid-ul-Adha etc. We should only have Independence Day, Workers Day, and Democracy Day since these holidays seem not to be attached to any religion. If it means to allow all religions, then the worshippers of obatala, sango, oshun etc should also have their public holidays.

I think we only deceive ourselves if we say Nigeria is a secular nation whatever that means. Islam and Christianity are the main religions in Nigeria and I think we have accepted that in the way we are already set up as a Nation. We have public holidays for both religions; we try to make a balance with both religions when making political appointments and even at state functions we usually have a Pastor and Imam offer a prayer. It is high time we recognized that in order to stop the frequent friction between Islam and Christianity in Nigeria, we need to ensure that the members of each religion can practice their religion to the fullest without taking away the rights of the other to enjoy same.

Now back to showing so much religion without internalizing the values. While the efforts to ensure that the right to use hijab is guaranteed are being led mainly by MURIC, there seems to be some smaller groups not organized under MURIC calling out people for protests. This idea where every Muslim becomes his own government, every Masjid issues its own fatwa was not the way Islam was organized during the time of the Prophet (Peace be Upon Him). We had organization and course of actions and decisions were taken by the leadership. We have forgotten that we are supposed to organize ourselves under one banner as one Nation without tribe or ethnicity having one leader.

Before the fall of the Ottoman Caliphate in the 1920s, Islam was very powerful and there was order. All the Muslims across Middle East, Eastern Europe and North Africa were under one rule. Though not exactly, just as the 1.2billion Catholics all over the world consider the Pope as their leader, our goal is to strive to have back only one source of leadership but if we can’t be organized in small Lagos then we still have a long way to go. If we still had the Caliphate, we probably would not have Boko Haram, Ansaru, JAMBS etc in small Nigeria reigning terror on us all. Such elements would most likely have been taken care of. To my non-Muslim friends, the idea of an Islamic State is not to dominate the world or to force everyone to accept Islam. It is meant to provide order among Muslims and help Muslims to be better Muslims. In fact, in the Islamic States that have existed in the past the rights of Christians and Jews were guaranteed.

And going back again to the use of hijab, many Muslims seem to rush at anyone whom they feel has persecuted Islam or Muslims while they themselves are yet to internalize the religion. Though today at the mention of hijab, the Islamic head covering is what comes easily to mind but in the real sense it is the covering of one’s unclothedness. In Islam, all of a woman’s body is her unclothedness except her face and her palms. So when I see a Muslim woman that has covered her head but wears a short sleeve or a knee length skirt, I shrug. I also feel uncomfortable when I enter a bus with women that use hijab but when they get angered they curse the bus conductor or fellow commuters. What happened to the commandments of Allah and the Prophet (Peace be upon Him) that we should remain silent if we have nothing good to say, that we should not argue much because it breeds enmity, and if we have to argue a little it should be in a beautiful manner.

Why is it that we cry foul only when some rights seem to be taken from us and we do nothing over the ones that are in our full control? I believe when Muslims decide to be more Muslims and practice as much of our religion as we can control, Allah will help us with the other ones and even non-Muslims we get to understand Islam more and will appreciate that we are in no competition with them but only want to practice our religion the way it ought to. People we understand that Islam is more that a religion but a way of life. I will like to share some personal experiences but I need to warn that I am not trying to portray myself to be holy or cool. I am still striving to improve my relationship with Allah.

There was a lady who on several occasions at the canteen had commended the way I eat. She said, “my wife will love me because I finish everything in the plate.” To her, it was my habit but for me it was a religious exercise. In one of the sayings of the Prophet, he said the stomach is the worst vessel to fill. He says if we have to eat, we should eat a little, fill one-third of it with food, another third with water and leave the last third for air. It was also reported that the Prophet eats slowly, will never leave a grain in his plate, will never complain about a food but leave it if he didn't like it. In order to emulate this practice of the Prophet, I start from the point of ordering the food. I make sure I ask for what I can finish and I try to finish it except rarely when something is wrong with the food. This habit is one capable of strengthening the love between the rich and the poor because if the rich is not wasteful there will be more for the poor, capable of strengthening the love between mothers and their children, wives and their husbands.

I will tell you another story. When I was in the University, there was a girl I liked but I couldn’t ask her out because there was another brother who was already doing same. When I told one of my closest friends (a non-Muslim) who was also my room-mate, he didn't understand why I will place such a restriction on myself. I should “play my game” and allow the other guy to play his too and let the lady decide. Afterall, she is yet to say yes to the other guy. I tried to explain to my friend that it was a restriction placed by my religion and it is meant to avoid enmity among brothers. I told him if I had to make an approach, I will have to be sure that she had turned down my brother. And as if God was going to make an example of him, someone whom he had been telling about a girl he was trying to ask out was also trying to ask out the same lady behind his back. This particular guy will go back to the lady and tell her all my friend had told him about her, how she’s forming to be difficult and how he was going to leave her if she doesn't respond positively. When my friend got to know about this, he was so shocked and furious. I then reminded him about the restriction I placed on myself but rather than accept the beauty of Islam, he tried to make a distinction between my case and his. Luckily for him, today he is married to that lady.

There was also a day while at Unilag, the call for Asr prayer had been made at 4pm and a room-mate (a non-Muslim) was surprised that I had not risen up to go and pray and he asked why I wasn't going to pray. I told him that I had prayed Asr together with Zuhr at 1pm. I explained to him that Islam permits us to join Zuhr and Asr at the time of Zuhr if there was a change of weather for instance rain. This was to prevent a situation where people won’t be able to come to say their Asr in congregation if the rain didn’t stop on time. For him, he appreciated how practicable Islam is and for me I felt if I wasn't saying my prayers regularly he wouldn't have reminded me of it.

There are a lot of Islamic virtues which are totally in our control: modesty, truthfulness, trustworthiness, promptness etc. I hear that some years ago in Port-Harcourt, if you wanted to do business people will tell you to look for an Alhaji due to the virtues they had then. I do not think it is the same now. Today Alhajis now swindle Alhajis, Muslims (including me) get late to work, cheat their employers, are wasteful when they know it’s the company paying. Imagine how much good it will do to the religion if the Company finds out that the expense bill is always low when they send a Muslim on an assignment and they realize that it is not just his habit but the habit of all members of his religion, that he will eat moderately and he will not take alcohol which is usually expensive.

Do we still make our wives to change their father’s name to ours when in fact they should keep their fathers’? If you die and she has to remarry, she changes her name again. How often would she have to change her name?

The more Muslims become Muslim, the more non-Muslims will get to appreciate the beauty of Islam and the more Allah will make it easy for us to get what we ask. We need to go back to the golden era when we were role models. Muslims were known not to be idle; they invested their time in an activity that will earn them reward either in this world or the hereafter. We were pioneers in medicine, navigation, arithmetic, literature, archaeology. We bequeathed the world with Arabic numerals which today can easily handle large numbers and several decimal places which would have been very complex with Roman numerals. Even the Prophet (Peace be Upon Him) commanded us to seek knowledge as far as China, China being the farthest place known at that time so it is strange that some “Muslims” will say to seek education is forbidden.

While Muslims try to become better Muslims I definitely want a society that guarantees religious rights such as the use of hijab by Muslim women without fear of discrimination. On a final note, today I work with a Company that permits me to register only one wife. I will like to see a day when I can register up to four that my religion has permitted even if I decide to stick with one. This right just like many others does not take anything away from the man who has decided to stick with one. Does it?

The bolded refers, why are Christian rights not being guaranteed/protected any more in most Islamic states/countries? Does it tell how tolerant Islam is?

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Re: Let Muslims Be Muslim by mko2005: 5:08pm On Apr 05, 2013
akande.james:


hmmm. you guys have been Liars from ages. darm liars. expert liars though few are different. demonizing muslims now u talk of hate. who hated who in the first place. you run all the media houses in the whole would and all you do is lie, trample on our rights to exist, freedom of speech, freedom to dress as we please yet you say we hate u. nope we don't.

i have 2 personal experiences.

1. a parent who has a kid in kindergarten class complained that the teacher teaches his son that Muhammad stole their food while praying before breakfast (but she actually kept them) in the class but Jesus (A.S) returned it when they closed their eyes again. he accused the teacher but she said , "we are serving the same God".

2. while serving in Akwa Ibom, i came across a book distributed by pastors to church goers in south south nigeria terribly lying about islam.

You are the jealous one and haters oga. you have been taught never to think of anything good about muslims even in the churches cos i was once in the church. WE WERE TAUGHT TO HATE MUSLIMS. change for good

The FACT is anyone who says Jesus isn't LORD and that HE never died and resurrected from the dead and will not accept HIS teachings and obey HIS commandments hates God the father the creator of Heaven and earth and the maker of Man ! So if you claim to be a christian and you don't believe and obey,then it will take the mercies and ABUNDANT grace of the Almighty for you not to be in hell ! If this is the case of a 'non-believing christian',what then do you think will be the fate of our Muslim brothers ? There is nothing 'we' can do rather than praying and interceding on your behalf !
May God have mercy on us all !

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Re: Let Muslims Be Muslim by hayubee(m): 5:09pm On Apr 05, 2013
Muskpeas U̶̲̥̅̊Я only being biased! Face it Islam is peace! Irrespective of what muslims do
Here again if u want τ̅☺ test a brand new car would u giv d car 2 an inexperienced driver? No! Cos he does not no how 2 handle it! So u test d car with a good driver same is Islam its not what muslims do bt what our prophet did (pbuh)dats d best example of a muslim not any shaikh or any imam preaches.
P.s islam is not as seen on bbc cnn
Re: Let Muslims Be Muslim by bukatyne(f): 5:16pm On Apr 05, 2013
akande.james:


hmmm. you guys have been Liars from ages. darm liars. expert liars though few are different. demonizing muslims now u talk of hate. who hated who in the first place. you run all the media houses in the whole would and all you do is lie, trample on our rights to exist, freedom of speech, freedom to dress as we please yet you say we hate u. nope we don't.

i have 2 personal experiences.

1. a parent who has a kid in kindergarten class complained that the teacher teaches his son that Muhammad stole their food while praying before breakfast (but she actually kept them) in the class but Jesus (A.S) returned it when they closed their eyes again. he accused the teacher but she said , "we are serving the same God".

2. while serving in Akwa Ibom, i came across a book distributed by pastors to church goers in south south nigeria terribly lying about islam.

You are the jealous one and haters oga. you have been taught never to think of anything good about muslims even in the churches cos i was once in the church. WE WERE TAUGHT TO HATE MUSLIMS. change for good


1. The teacher was wrong
2. I don't know the book in question

The fact you were once in the church doesn't mean you were in God. I am yet to come across a church that propagates hatred for Muslims.

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Re: Let Muslims Be Muslim by Mintayo(m): 5:27pm On Apr 05, 2013
akande.james:


please pardon my response if it sounds rude or distasteful. i do not mean any wrong but just to answer d questn Samsantos9 asked...

to correct your impression, whatever quotation that comes from the Qurán is from God (Allah) and not Muhammad. Muhammad was just a channel through which the messages were relayed to the world.

if i understand your curiosity, Allah created us all and gave the prestige of prophet-hood to the jews. they were foremost as many prophet came from them.they were given the Torah however they went renegade and next in line was the Christians who were given the injeel (not the same bible we see today). they also mixed up the religious beliefs after Christ departed. Finally, the last revelation (the Qurán) given to Muhammad (from the same source-God)spells out what had preceded it in the former religions books, what the jews and christians did including warnings not to follow their wrong path which resulted in their loss.

like the yoruba adage goes, "A person who falls in a pit will be a lesson to others".
if u have any question and u seek to know more, i prefer a one on one in my inbox (akande.james1@gmail.com)

lies lies lies!
Can you tell me pls,when,how,where and who made the mixed up.
pls note,christains and muslims are not serving the same God,pls note.

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Re: Let Muslims Be Muslim by koreye: 5:29pm On Apr 05, 2013
Nice write up. May Allah increase u in knowledge amin
Re: Let Muslims Be Muslim by bbkkatunxo: 5:30pm On Apr 05, 2013
Allah ya saka ma(Amin summa Amin).May Allah bless you. Nice write up
Re: Let Muslims Be Muslim by Mintayo(m): 5:32pm On Apr 05, 2013
omodapson:

The bolded refers, why are Christian rights not being guaranteed/protected any more in most Islamic states/countries? Does it tell how tolerant Islam is?

don't mind them-hypocrites!
Re: Let Muslims Be Muslim by ckkris: 5:33pm On Apr 05, 2013
nwando:

Be whatever you wanna be
Profess who you are from the rooftops
Worship whomever you wanna worship but please allow us to live and exist in peace
That is all we ask
Allow us to practice our faith or non faith the way we choose without molestation and without threats to our lives
That is our plea and the plea from the rest of the world to you and yours
Please help us spread that message
Thank you

Christians are NOT PLEADING FOR PEACE FROM MOSLEMS. If the moslems push their luck too far they will see who has the resources to enforce the peace.

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Re: Let Muslims Be Muslim by aryzgreat: 5:35pm On Apr 05, 2013
akande.james:


hmmm. you guys have been Liars from ages. darm liars. expert liars though few are different. demonizing muslims now u talk of hate. who hated who in the first place. you run all the media houses in the whole would and all you do is lie, trample on our rights to exist, freedom of speech, freedom to dress as we please yet you say we hate u. nope we don't.

i have 2 personal experiences.

1. a parent who has a kid in kindergarten class complained that the teacher teaches his son that Muhammad stole their food while praying before breakfast (but she actually kept them) in the class but Jesus (A.S) returned it when they closed their eyes again. he accused the teacher but she said , "we are serving the same God".

2. while serving in Akwa Ibom, i came across a book distributed by pastors to church goers in south south nigeria terribly lying about islam.

You are the jealous one and haters oga. you have been taught never to think of anything good about muslims even in the churches cos i was once in the church. WE WERE TAUGHT TO HATE MUSLIMS. change for good


see who is talking, 'Al-takiya" is an arabic word for wot? go figures cos al-takiya makes a lie told to defend islam a holy lie, same as ur so called holy war!

You can frame up wotever al-takiya lie to defend ur religion, the FACT remains dat xtians have no time discussing Islam cos muhamad was never mentioned in my Bible, no church leader discusses and compare muslim vs christian the way u muslim do. Am suprised to read so many hateful verses in ur holy book against jews and xtians, it potrays whosoever wrote the book as a bitter person. Imagine saying that d mountain will tell a muslim that a jew is here, come for him. wot do u call dat?

The likes of sheikh Gumi will rada preach hate against christians dan preach wot te koran told u ppl to do. "O ye who believes, take not the jews and xtians as awiya(friend) they are but alwiya to eachh other" wot a hateful verse!

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Re: Let Muslims Be Muslim by BetaThings: 5:46pm On Apr 05, 2013
Chris†Kid:
The FCTA using federal government money sponsored millions of muslims pilgrims to saudi arabia. Upon getting there they were arrested by their arab masters and packed in jail like sardines for not being good enough muslims. FCTA again using federal govt money(oil money from christian states) sponsored delegates which would include speaker of house of assembly to negotiate their release like they were some kind of criminals. That would make it 2. Not mention other things FG uses government money to do like buying sallah rams, building almajiri model schools that teach islam, sponsoring mass marriages for muslims etc. All these things are done with money from Christian states. Why are you so ungrateful?

I don't get this. Are we talking resource control here? So what will a Christian from Plateau say to a Muslim from Bayelsa? That he should be grateful too? And I am not talking about going to Hajj. What percentage of Muslims go for Hajj every year and what % are sponsored. Please understand issues

The oil happens to be in your state. We have mineral resources in my state too and I am not stopping FG from mining it. That matter is on the exclusive list. So over to FG

I am a Muslim. I don't regard any Arab as my master. I pray to Allah who is the King of this World and Master of the day of judgment. There are Arab Christians and criminals. A black muslim who worships Allah sincerely is better than

Hajj and indeed any travels has its rules. A muslim who does not obey it should not complain. So let us leave the matter. Let muslims complain.

BTW we never call the Pope your master. Christians always look for such angle to issues. Red herring

Now back to the point

The point is this. If Islamic Banking deepens cleavage in the polity, National Christmas Tree strikes at the heart at national cohesion. Don't you agree?


Chris†Kid:
Saudi Arabia a model sharia state doesn't allow other religions to practice their religion openly, women rights are infringed on. They can't drive, move around without male company, they're forced to wear ninja attire or risk beating from moral police etc. Is that what you want for Zamfarans?

Why don't you allow Zamfarans renounce Islam and sharia. Are we taking it that you are more educated and elightened than every woman in Zamfara? You know this is similar to the US telling us we must allow same sex marriage. There are people happily wearing that attire you so despise, even against their parents disapproval in the South.

Anyway if a state religion is wrong in Zamfara, it is wrong in Plateau. Do you disagree?

Chris†Kid:
CAN said that? I had no idea living spring was Jesus trademark and virtuous was Muhammad thing. shocked

Read my post. CAN said that they regard Jesus as Livingspring. Google the story. Yes CAN did
I NEVER said ANYONE relates virtuous to Mohammed (SAW)
CAN implied that the Gov just wanted to ensure that it no longer has Christian connotation
Looks like CAN believes that a state's payoff that is religious neutral is a crime. Don't you agree


Chris†Kid:

Yea muslims can do whatever they like on friday. I don't support the beating of the girl for wearing hijab. Shior! tongue

Oh, Alhamdu li Llah (praise to Allah)
Re: Let Muslims Be Muslim by tbaba1234: 5:47pm On Apr 05, 2013
Mintayo: I found this somewhere in nairaland,you need to read this,its eye opening...
http://www.islamreview.com/articles/islamiclies.shtml

just read it open-mindedly.

The article itself is full of lies... so much for been open minded

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