Tundenoni: I'ld prefer Damoche!

SORTER: Why raining Abuse N Insult on this fellow Now?....Kai this kind of Manner shows little or no Parental Love towards U at all.... Morons like U even hit D like button

ibkgab001: Foyanmu or. Odolaye aremu

ibkgab001: Foyanmu or. Odolaye aremu

sheymoni: All I can say is that, these two men are greedy & selfish. they sang all the songs & there's nothing left to sing 4 the present artists apart 4rm sangalo,fonkasibe, e dey pain make I comot am e.t.c.

kq: yes KSA is commercial but it will be a huge lie to say he has no lyrical or local content. My question is do you listen to the wordings or lyrics of his songs at all?
For example in The Merciful God their is a section where he describes people hanging out at a palmwine joint he goes in to a climax by singing " to mi ni igba kan se kan ko mi ko tun se kan ko ra re ka jo ma mu lo". That is the height of description of a way of life especially the Yorubas and he does it using the Ondo dialect (pardon me if i am wrong about the dialect). Apart from that it is a wrong assumption to say KSA sings praises while Obey does not. They both do Obey has sang praises of Ibadan, Ijesha and Iwo people before, i would say this is an integral part of music in Yoruba where you sing praises of popular people. it is also noticeable in our culture where most palace kings or rich people have an "akigbe" to sing their praises in the days gone by. So if you ask me i would say both had "akigbeism" in their music which was not peculiar to Juju alone it was done by almost all Yoruba musicians, Yusuf Olatunji, Ligali Mukaiba, Haruna Isola and even Fuji musicians like Sikiru Ayinde Barrister included.

And as regards to lyrical content please listen to sections of The Merciful God such as "Maajo" where he desribes life as ever continuous despite the horrible and bad circumstances we face. Also listen to Surprise where he sings "Alagemo esi o kosa pa aso esi da o" these are references to the culture and rich language of the Yorubas. Or in another album where he sings " ore ti o si ni oro ni o so o lo o ni si ni hun o ba o so ro kan oro kan si ko o hun bun o ni nkan"

In my own opinion i would describe KSA has robust and very broad in his composition with a lean towards including dance beats while Obey is much more mellow with huge references to story telling and icons of the society.

We must give KSA credit for keeping both lyrical and local content in his music but also introducing global aesthetics to it. Both in my own opinion are Masters of the arts and i enjoy listening to their music especially Ebenezer Obeys " Eni ri nkan He"

Find below

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG7SnFmt84c"[/flash]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlBthbDhZ3E"[/flash]

kq: yes KSA is commercial but it will be a huge lie to say he has no lyrical or local content. My question is do you listen to the wordings or lyrics of his songs at all?
For example in The Merciful God their is a section where he describes people hanging out at a palmwine joint he goes in to a climax by singing " to mi ni igba kan se kan ko mi ko tun se kan ko ra re ka jo ma mu lo". That is the height of description of a way of life especially the Yorubas and he does it using the Ondo dialect (pardon me if i am wrong about the dialect). Apart from that it is a wrong assumption to say KSA sings praises while Obey does not. They both do Obey has sang praises of Ibadan, Ijesha and Iwo people before, i would say this is an integral part of music in Yoruba where you sing praises of popular people. it is also noticeable in our culture where most palace kings or rich people have an "akigbe" to sing their praises in the days gone by. So if you ask me i would say both had "akigbeism" in their music which was not peculiar to Juju alone it was done by almost all Yoruba musicians, Yusuf Olatunji, Ligali Mukaiba, Haruna Isola and even Fuji musicians like Sikiru Ayinde Barrister included.

And as regards to lyrical content please listen to sections of The Merciful God such as "Maajo" where he desribes life as ever continuous despite the horrible and bad circumstances we face. Also listen to Surprise where he sings "Alagemo esi o kosa pa aso esi da o" these are references to the culture and rich language of the Yorubas. Or in another album where he sings " ore ti o si ni oro ni o so o lo o ni si ni hun o ba o so ro kan oro kan si ko o hun bun o ni nkan"

In my own opinion i would describe KSA has robust and very broad in his composition with a lean towards including dance beats while Obey is much more mellow with huge references to story telling and icons of the society.

We must give KSA credit for keeping both lyrical and local content in his music but also introducing global aesthetics to it. Both in my own opinion are Masters of the arts and i enjoy listening to their music especially Ebenezer Obeys " Eni ri nkan He"

Find below

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG7SnFmt84c"[/flash]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlBthbDhZ3E"[/flash]

mikeapollo:

Why the abuse? Why the insults?

Well, I am well bred with good home-training, so I dont trade abuses and insults online.
You are free to exhibit the kind of training and upbringing you are made of.

What I wrote about Obey and Sunny are the facts. Obey was the first person to introduce multiple guitars, western drum kits among other numerous innovations, but he does not brag, unlike Sunny. Obey was the one that modernised Juju music before Sunny joined the train!


Who is Alaafin of Oyo in music? What does Alaafin know about music? What authority does Alaafin have in music?
So what happens if Ooni of Ife or any other Oba should just wake up and say some other musician is the king of Juju or Fuji or whatever? Obey avoided calls for him to be crowned as King by other Obas in Yoruba land like the Alake and Ooni.
Dont be deceived by some people who give some spurious awards to their favourite musician.May be you dont know that most of the so-called awards are solicited and arranged by the musicians themselves in order to boost their profile and marketability!Do you know how many 'Kings' we have in Fuji music now?
Well, I dont blame you if you do not know....you have already displayed your level of maturity in your first sentence

Obey is better than Sunny in all aspects of Juju music, except stagemanship and dancing.
What Obey lacks in stage craft, he covers with un-paralled ability in great lyrics, compositions, arrangement,instrumentation, percussions, delivery etc. His songs are timeless.

Obey's kind of musician is very rare...If you do not know, go and ask your elders!

damoskiy: I have listened to both of them live on stage.would prefer obey to sunny .Obey has this command on stage.both the young and old dance to his music.sunny majorly is for the older generation.sunny is kind of arrogant.if you don't play well on stage with him.he could collect the instrument from you and play it himself.obey on the other hand would tell you to play on a certain key ad would just correct you.my five cent.

mikeapollo:

Why the abuse? Why the insults?

Well, I am well bred with good home-training, so I dont trade abuses and insults online.
You are free to exhibit the kind of training and upbringing you are made of.

What I wrote about Obey and Sunny are the facts. Obey was the first person to introduce multiple guitars, western drum kits among other numerous innovations, but he does not brag, unlike Sunny. Obey was the one that modernised Juju music before Sunny joined the train!


Who is Alaafin of Oyo in music? What does Alaafin know about music? What authority does Alaafin have in music?
So what happens if Ooni of Ife or any other Oba should just wake up and say some other musician is the king of Juju or Fuji or whatever? Obey avoided calls for him to be crowned as King by other Obas in Yoruba land like the Alake and Ooni.
Dont be deceived by some people who give some spurious awards to their favourite musician.May be you dont know that most of the so-called awards are solicited and arranged by the musicians themselves in order to boost their profile and marketability!Do you know how many 'Kings' we have in Fuji music now?
Well, I dont blame you if you do not know....you have already displayed your level of maturity in your first sentence

Obey is better than Sunny in all aspects of Juju music, except stagemanship and dancing.
What Obey lacks in stage craft, he covers with un-paralled ability in great lyrics, compositions, arrangement,instrumentation, percussions, delivery etc. His songs are timeless.

Obey's kind of musician is very rare...If you do not know, go and ask your elders!

mikeapollo:

Why the abuse? Why the insults?

Well, I am well bred with good home-training, so I dont trade abuses and insults online.
You are free to exhibit the kind of training and upbringing you are made of.

What I wrote about Obey and Sunny are the facts. Obey was the first person to introduce multiple guitars, western drum kits among other numerous innovations, but he does not brag, unlike Sunny. Obey was the one that modernised Juju music before Sunny joined the train!


Who is Alaafin of Oyo in music? What does Alaafin know about music? What authority does Alaafin have in music?
So what happens if Ooni of Ife or any other Oba should just wake up and say some other musician is the king of Juju or Fuji or whatever? Obey avoided calls for him to be crowned as King by other Obas in Yoruba land like the Alake and Ooni.
Dont be deceived by some people who give some spurious awards to their favourite musician.May be you dont know that most of the so-called awards are solicited and arranged by the musicians themselves in order to boost their profile and marketability!Do you know how many 'Kings' we have in Fuji music now?
Well, I dont blame you if you do not know....you have already displayed your level of maturity in your first sentence

Obey is better than Sunny in all aspects of Juju music, except stagemanship and dancing.
What Obey lacks in stage craft, he covers with un-paralled ability in great lyrics, compositions, arrangement,instrumentation, percussions, delivery etc. His songs are timeless.

Obey's kind of musician is very rare...If you do not know, go and ask your elders!

Tony Spike: My Kenyan friend heard Ebenezer Obey's song, "Mo f'oro mi le e lowo", just ONCE and he started begging for it. I think Obey's music is more African in beat and rhythm, it captures the soul of African music of his time and even in these modern days. It appeals to Africans who love the excessive use of traditional drums and guitars, irrespective of the inherent language barrier. Sunny Ade, on the other hand, "adjusted" his music to suite international appeal with the use of techno and pop beats. To me, Sunny Ade is a somewhat a traitor to "proper" Yoruba and African music. He adjusted his music to conform to international (actually American and Eurocentric) appeal, no wonder he is known. On the philosophical and logical flow of music story, Obey beats Sunny hands down. Generally, Sunny is mainly a praise singer while Obey is a story teller...

victorv12: Ebenezer Obey is like Nas of High life music, while Sunny Ade is like Biggie of Juju music. I prefer Obey, he's highly poetic than the latter!

naijababe:

Disagree! You need to listen older LPs to appreciate Sunny's genius in this regard.

Take this one for example, although not quite an old one but for me, only a genius can make the lyrics here work. I break out in goose pimples every time I listen to it


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2xHsqlko-c

naijababe: And it is absolutely ridiculous that most posters on this thread accuse Sunny of praise singing when Obey's greatest hit is 'Board Members'. That LP was praise singing from the beginning to the end.

I don't like it when people pit two masters against each other. Both men are geniuses in my opinion and I listen to both extensively depending on my mood.

MMotimo: This is what KSA once sang:

Sunny Ade o lo ro gun ninu olorin
Isola o ba won di te ninu onilu
KSA, dakun, ma wo won lo ye . . . . . .,

KSA himself said he had no rival, I approve that proclamation

naptu2:

I absolutely love this song. If I remember correctly, this was from the Authority album, right?