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Re: A Depressed House Wife Needs Urgent Advice by biolabee(m): 6:23pm On Apr 26, 2013 |
Because young school needs dough |
Re: A Depressed House Wife Needs Urgent Advice by MMotimo: 6:32pm On Apr 26, 2013 |
OK, I get it but you know what? There are a number of young school doing it as a temporary measure when their kids are still young. But I do understand the financial implications. Goes back to "not affordable" but still not right to call people names because it's an acceptable choice for them. |
Re: A Depressed House Wife Needs Urgent Advice by Nobody: 7:00pm On Apr 26, 2013 |
@ dayo Thank u jare! @ ypp U said we shld encourage her? Hw do we do dat?! Let call a spade a spade, dat woman is not ready 2work! Period! Am very sure she hasn't applied 4any job let alone called her 4 interview & her husband stopped her not 2go Like I said is it a must 2go 4office work? God forbid I were in her shoes but long time ago, I wuld hv learnt sewing, catering etc! Hw abt home lesson or kindergarten like dayo said! Frm 8-2 ( d one we used 2call jele simi dn) E je ka pa enu po ka ba ole wi ( let's put mouths 2gether 2scold a thief) @ poster Tell ur friend 2go & look 4d way she will add value 2her life! Its nt when u hav masters dat u r valuable ind society! |
Re: A Depressed House Wife Needs Urgent Advice by dayokanu(m): 7:33pm On Apr 26, 2013 |
nikkykay: @ dayo Whats the use of Masters to someone 10yrs out of school and no single work experience? Is the masters just to decorate the house just like the Bachelors is doing? I wont be surprised if she comes up with excuses like Daycare I really dont like noisy children(Someone who is already complaining of caring for 3 kids assuming none of them is in school yet) and my husband wont agree to the business Sewing : The cost of sewing machine is too high. and My husband wont agree to give me the money Braiding: All those people whose hair dey always smell. My husband would be against it Catering; If people should fall sick from food poisoning Police would come find me. My husband wont agree as the house would be smelling like mamaput But to sleep at home all day and watch TV while gossiping with the neighbour. MY HUSBAND WOULD LIKE THAT ONE |
Re: A Depressed House Wife Needs Urgent Advice by Nobody: 7:36pm On Apr 26, 2013 |
yellowpawpaw: My dear,I really wonder how some ladies think. |
Re: A Depressed House Wife Needs Urgent Advice by Nobody: 8:19pm On Apr 26, 2013 |
dayokanu:Dayo!!!! LMAO Dnt mind some women who always blame dir men 4 every predicament! Masters 2decorate d sitting room! She has time 2go 2poster's house 2go & gossip but she doesn't hv time 2go & learn work btw 8- 4 wn children r in sch & husband @work! After like 1yr, do freedom, buy sewing machine & start sewing in ur parlour or d husband wil stop u frm sewin in his house again! Tell me if dat man wil no be impressed & b proud of u! Despite going against his wish, he will still respect Let her make a move first & let her husband kick against it! Then she can involve family! Wot of if d man loses his job 2mrw?! Wot wil b ur own contribution as d woman of d house?! Wot kind of example r u setting 4ur daughter (s)? 1 Like |
Re: A Depressed House Wife Needs Urgent Advice by Nobody: 8:49pm On Apr 26, 2013 |
byvan:I've not seen ur posts for sometime now.very occupied? Lv reading them cos they r one of d most sensible posts I see here most times |
Re: A Depressed House Wife Needs Urgent Advice by Nobody: 9:32pm On Apr 26, 2013 |
dayokanu: ur very funny - but in all honesty what is she doing with a masters - no work experience but she wants a masters for what? |
Re: A Depressed House Wife Needs Urgent Advice by damiso(f): 9:49pm On Apr 26, 2013 |
jidegirl12: Don't mind her jare , I have 3 kids all under 10, no relatives around and my house may look disorganized when you visit on weekdays oh but I manage well . Sis i am not supporting her o.I blame her for doing nothing about her predicament for 10 years.I personally cant imagine not earning money.I like buy buy too much and for now o its not fair on both my husband and kids to do things i do on just his wages.Fact.That is me.I got made redudant at work so out of formal 9-5 enviroment since Feb.At school at the moment and also have a small business i run because i like to keep busy despite having two under 5's.I honestly dont think i want to work full time till my baby is in reception which is about 2 and a half yrs from now.To some people i might be lazy.But it works for MY family. My stand has always been on topics like this its not fair to label ALL women who dont bring an income as lazy or liabilities.For some people its a temporary thing.We all have diff capabilities and some people cant juggle it all.Seriously i cant work full time with my PG studies and running a business and my babies.Some people can.Thats life. |
Re: A Depressed House Wife Needs Urgent Advice by dayokanu(m): 10:29pm On Apr 26, 2013 |
Defintely I understand you, Temporary situations are understandable and acceptable e.g Reading for an exams, The health isnt too good, She needs to be in school etc Those ones are working at something that would benefit them and their family in the future cant be liabilities they are Assets or better still "Work in Progress" Like an asset under construction But the ones who just sit at home, No job, no trade, no plans waiting for husband Any situation can change so saying stuff like Pray to God for blah bla blah doesnt cut it. The sweet and generous husband can change tomorrow and change the password to the account, he might lose his job, He might die So what happens to you The irony of this issue is that the illiterate women are not even doing this they are in Alade, balogun, Katangwa market from dusk to dawn Its the educated I have a 2-1 I want a masters women that are now content with 10yrs of sitting at home waiting for Husband before she buys toothpaste |
Re: A Depressed House Wife Needs Urgent Advice by biolabee(m): 10:49pm On Apr 26, 2013 |
MMotimo: OK, I get it but you know what? There are a number of young school doing it as a temporary measure when their kids are still young. But I do understand the financial implications. Goes back to "not affordable" but still not right to call people names because it's an acceptable choice for them. Accepted.. |
Re: A Depressed House Wife Needs Urgent Advice by damiso(f): 11:04pm On Apr 26, 2013 |
dayokanu: Defintely I understand you, Temporary situations are understandable and acceptable e.g Reading for an exams, The health isnt too good, She needs to be in school etc I get what you mean and believe me i share that mindset.I believe you should never depend 100% financially on another human being as an adult.When i was in university i used to sell just cos my parents used to give me the necessities and i wanted nice stuff without carrying aristo.I used to sell for my mum and my profits would go on clothes.During holidays or strikes i would use my mum and dad contacts for coporate gifts or hampers and use my proceeds for stuff.That is just me as an individual thinking that if i want extra,i need to work for it. Some people dont want extra.They are ok with the basics.And some people can afford the basics on just one income.Me that i like extra is it not hypocritical to then start judging someone who can survive on basic cos me i prefer to work to get extra?My mindset has changed alot since becoming a mother but if i am being honest,one of my main motivations in the past for making money was so i could buy nice expensive things.When i was newly married cos my husband had been living as a bachelor for a while and i relocated to join him,he paid most of the bills.Na wetin i dey use my money do,shoes,bags,jewellery,£180 hair etc.In short i was just buying rubbish.And i would argue that i need my own money lai lai you cant tell me not to work.How is that more honourable than one who is not working probably to dedicate time to her kids? (i don change now though i still like to splurge once in a while speaking of which i need to go hide something in my wardrobe before Oga finds it,am supposed to be broke ) All am just saying is i refuse to judge someone else who stays home and does not bring in an income cos i might not know the full story.(that said if you agree to stay home on a reduced income pls dont whine if you cant buy brazilian hair,adults should be able to face up to consequences of their actions or inactions). |
Re: A Depressed House Wife Needs Urgent Advice by Nobody: 11:32pm On Apr 26, 2013 |
Damiso your last paragraph is obvious diplomacy and that's fine, lets face fact here. who wants to live with just 'basics' ? Abi no be women of today una dey talk? Abeg leave story jor. Your own situation is different, you're working towards success for all of y'all. I don't think you want to stay home and do nothing when you're done with it abi? |
Re: A Depressed House Wife Needs Urgent Advice by Nobody: 11:33pm On Apr 26, 2013 |
To MMtimo; MMtimo exhilarate the lackadaisical act all you want , lets call a spade a spade, procrastinating will not solve her problem, get off her lazy bum and do something! Good for you you're content with one income and manage little you had without whining and unappreciative. And I don't buy ''putting your career on hold'' story, any woman would be glad to stay home and nurture their kids 24/7 AND have it all meaning if my husband rakes in both our Net income why won't I stay home and do yoga, Pilates , mom groups everyday till they're school -agers ? Most ''new age'' ladies can barely do groceries with 40k Naira ( seen it all on NL) and house chores without cursing the man out/ ridicule him how his mates treat their wives. They want to keep up with olowoyemis , drink bournvita and glazed donut , watch nollywood , reproduce . Mom of 2 employee who works full time, I asked her why pay that much for childcare and stay home instead? She said she makes $1400 monthly staying home and now makes $2000 ( net), the difference goes a long way she said. They're going to Cuba for summer family vaca. I doubt they can afford that if she decided to stay home. |
Re: A Depressed House Wife Needs Urgent Advice by MMotimo: 11:33pm On Apr 26, 2013 |
Bless you, Damiso I have to go read your post history, you make so much sense |
Re: A Depressed House Wife Needs Urgent Advice by debosky(m): 11:39pm On Apr 26, 2013 |
I don't know why some people are bringing in a case of leaving work to take care of kids when it appears this woman has never worked. There is a difference between deciding not to work and blaming your husband for never having worked. As for those saying does self esteem have to come from earning an income, I ask you - would you consider a husband not earning (or trying to earn) an income as someone with self esteem? No be the same school husband and wife dey go? Let's not get off track and start talking about staying at home in general - this is about a woman blaming the husband for her never working. That is untenable for me and utter rubbish. As for those talking about no 'net worth' to 'put down' working women, take away the income and let's see where the family will be financially. If some women believe they are not supposed to bring in an income, let them stop wasting resources getting an education beyond secondary school level. 2 Likes |
Re: A Depressed House Wife Needs Urgent Advice by dayokanu(m): 11:44pm On Apr 26, 2013 |
debosky: As for those saying does self esteem have to come from earning an income, I ask you - would you consider a husband not earning (or trying to earn) an income as someone with self esteem? No be the same school husband and wife dey go? Bros, If na play stop am, gender equality no reach that level |
Re: A Depressed House Wife Needs Urgent Advice by MMotimo: 11:46pm On Apr 26, 2013 |
jidegirl12: To MMtimo; You've lost me. What is lackadaisical about my posts? Did you read what I wrote about/to the victim on the previous page? I'm not a flip flopper and I believe my comments clearly reflect my views. I don't call people names because they choose not to stay home, same way I would not call a SHM names. Did you notice where I mentioned affordability and trust (going back to bolden it now)? Did I say a person must spend money they can't afford? Good for the person going on vacation, her family needs her income and she's working. Where did Mmotimo argue against that? Yes, it's putting my career on hold, not sure how you've interpreted that expression In my line of work, taking extended time off work has an effect, it's just the way it is and I'm not complaining. Here's an excerpt from that post
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Re: A Depressed House Wife Needs Urgent Advice by Nobody: 12:03am On Apr 27, 2013 |
MMotimo: ^^^ Arousing and Encouraging a Degree holder to stay home when it's clear her husband wants her to work, making excuses for lazy bums because it works for you and you had a supportive man, we should discourage this mindset instead of encouraging it and that's why I'm not very pleased with your notion= it's NOT A VIABLE OPTION , IT'S PURE LAZINESS. MMotimo: I disagree .... what effect? you'd lose your position / your 401k depreciate / age ? And with all due respect ma'am you shouldn't complain, not an option either cos you had a choice. |
Re: A Depressed House Wife Needs Urgent Advice by Originalsly: 12:08am On Apr 27, 2013 |
It seems like the husband is very controlling but as I continue reading the picture began to change.If the man Doesn't want his wife to progress or work he would never had allowed her to go to school in the first place.She went to school to get certified so she can work. Did she? Now she wants to go to school again.Why? She is not allowed to go anywhere but can spend two days at your house...but not at her family.I think she is seeing someone else and after ten years and with 3 young children...she is coming up with lame excuses to abandon her family and go live a free and single life. |
Re: A Depressed House Wife Needs Urgent Advice by MMotimo: 12:11am On Apr 27, 2013 |
I think you are just in the mood to argue. Kindly show me where I encouraged the victim to stay home, are you confusing me with someone else? The woman is suffering so how is that a viable option and how did you conclude that's what my post said? Did you not read what I said about her. You are throwing out accusations with no basis Jide, I don't know what you are seeing in my posts o! I already said I'm not complaining about the effect, been there, done that. By the way, no, I'm not interested in disclosing my occupation . If I say it has an effect and you say it doesn't, all I can say is you are welcome. Think of me as an onion seller in Abakaliki with the biggest stall in the market, can't have Mama Emeka usurp my seniority This is what I wrote on the previous page
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Re: A Depressed House Wife Needs Urgent Advice by crownjustice: 12:14am On Apr 27, 2013 |
nikkykay: @ poster I do not find her lazy. Raising three young children is hard work, including housework and taking care of the husband is a lot of work. She got jobs but the husband refused for her to take those jobs because it will impact on the family. She suggested a nanny to come in and take care of the children and the house chores while she works, the husband refused. She then asked the husband to look for a job that he will approve, he claims he cannot find any. She suggested that she start a business, the husband refused that also because it will impact on the family. Her brother was stranded and her husband refused to help him out with transportation money. Her family is suffering including her old dad in the village. The husband has refused to allocate funds for her allowance, he has failed his wife. The husband is obviously having problems financially and he should allow his wife to help him and she appears to be very intelligent and can contribute to the marriage in a positive manner. I find the husband to be very controlling, abusive, insecure, immature, selfish, etc. The husband must have a lot to hide. He simply wants his wife to be kept in the dark about something. I will suggest calling a family meeting, his family and her family and letting them know that you are not being giving your allowance. You are making a suggestion that you will like to start working or starting a business and that you need a nanny/housekeeper (part-time). Nobody has the right to cause a mental illness such as depression on another human being. She may end up on psychotic drugs and the children and family that he wishes for her to take care of will be null and void. The man needs to be very careful. |
Re: A Depressed House Wife Needs Urgent Advice by crownjustice: 12:32am On Apr 27, 2013 |
baby_123: OP, subsequent posting from the poster indicated that she got numerous jobs which the husband refused for her to take citing family obligations, and the type of jobs. When she suggested a nanny, he refused. When she asked him to help source the type of job he would prefer for her, he refused and claimed he could not find any. |
Re: A Depressed House Wife Needs Urgent Advice by Nobody: 12:41am On Apr 27, 2013 |
Sis I know what I'm talking about , why should I argue with you just cause? I've read your numerous posts on this topic and I know where you stand. MMotimo: Don't know how many times this issue comes up in this section but I will say what I have always said. Culturally, Nigerian women, especially Southerners have been raised to believe that you have to bring in an income in order for your spouse and his family to respect you. Never mind that you have abused women with full time jobs. This is the post... @ bolded.... this is exactly @lemon's mindset, stay home and direct/advice/ delegate / whatever expenses that she had no kobo contribution cos she's special and endowed with GOOD ATTITUDE @trust yes I was engaged for almost 5years, we have had everything-joint orientation way back before we got married so wasn't a problem. And lastly , It's shouldn't be acceptable NOR an option/choice for any woman to stay home and the man work to stupor because he's married. Otherwise they should not go to school in the first place. |
Re: A Depressed House Wife Needs Urgent Advice by crownjustice: 1:08am On Apr 27, 2013 |
@poster i think a lot of good suggestions came from this thread for your friend with regards to what type of business she can start from home that will make her husband very proud. What does she think about those suggestions? There is a general consensus that she should not seek divorce. I am not sure what type of friend you are to her, but divorce should not be the wise course of action at this stage. She has many other options left. |
Re: A Depressed House Wife Needs Urgent Advice by MMotimo: 1:18am On Apr 27, 2013 |
You throw out baseless accusations, I challenge you to substantiate them and you come up with more of the same. So this is the post to support your most recent accusation? Really? Seriously? Did I say I support a man working to stupor? Does that not right away suggest it's not an affordable choice if that's what he has to do? @ trust Does it not take trust to believe your spouse will not mistreat you if you stay home? That is where trust comes in. Spending time in courtship relates to getting to know your intended spouse well and deciding what behaviors you are prepared to live with. If a man makes it clear he does not believe in a stay home situation, should a woman marry such a man if she wants to consider that option? At the same time, just because there is trust does not make it a viable option if it's not affordable. I think you are personalizing this to yourself thus the endless accusations that you cannot defend. That long post is directed mainly at people to whom it is/will be a viable choice. You do not belong in that group, as you have made clear so what gives Just going around in circles here, I can't do this endlessly, no time, my most important personalities are right here in the house. Enough time spent on Nland today jidegirl12: Sis I know what I'm talking about , why should I argue with you just cause? I've read your numerous posts on this topic and I know where you stand. |
Re: A Depressed House Wife Needs Urgent Advice by Nobody: 1:25am On Apr 27, 2013 |
Won tun ti bere. Tatiana09 aka nwando, I see ya on the guest list o. Kedu ka I mere? |
Re: A Depressed House Wife Needs Urgent Advice by biolabee(m): 2:33am On Apr 27, 2013 |
dayokanu: Defintely I understand you, Temporary situations are understandable and acceptable e.g Reading for an exams, The health isnt too good, She needs to be in school etc I like these POVs |
Re: A Depressed House Wife Needs Urgent Advice by biolabee(m): 2:33am On Apr 27, 2013 |
Abegi o...i take god beg una,, make una no sp.unk this thread o |
Re: A Depressed House Wife Needs Urgent Advice by Nobody: 11:51am On Apr 27, 2013 |
yellowpawpaw: Serving my country has taken much of my online time,I now have to log in,scan through and move on. |
Re: A Depressed House Wife Needs Urgent Advice by Nobody: 5:04am On Apr 28, 2013 |
byvan:Enjoy it while it last!its fun I tell u.remembered wen I did mine, was so lucky,everything I did was close to my house.saluta! |
Re: A Depressed House Wife Needs Urgent Advice by ujutonia: 9:55am On Apr 28, 2013 |
Some are here blaming the woman saying that she is lazy nd all that. from the post, u can imagine the woman family background. The mum died whn she is in secondary school nd maybe the man saw her thru the university nd to show appreciation she married him. Does she have mouth? whtever the man says that she will do. For me i see a woman with no one to speak on her behalf. i will not suggest divorce but i will like the woman to start up something in her home, since he asked him to stay at home 1 Like |
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