zetdee: People need to see development around them in order not feel discouraged about their poverty. It doesn't help anyone if they're educated but feel somewhere is where it's at, they need to be inspired, Europe when it had poor people had the most beautiful structures that inpired hope in the citizens.

Afam4eva:
[size=14pt]You're wrong. The reason why Europe and America is soo developed is because the people developed it and not the government. The government just provided the enabling environment for that to happen. But it seems in Nigeria, the government has relegated it's own duty and is doing what the citizens are supposed to be doing. Of what use is the government building beautiful structures which according to you will make them feel discouraged about poverty when they don't have the needed mechanism to achieve such feat by themselves. Even in the poorest countries in the world, they have seen the best of things whether in real life or on TV but their limitations will not enable them even dream for those things.[/size]

asha 80: the problem i have with the building of this so called mega schools is after they have being built who will maintain them?the same structure of government that ran them down?

Afam4eva:
[size=14pt]The reason most times is that enough expertise is not there to maintain these schools. We're tackling the problems from the top rather than from the bottom.[/size]

Afam4eva:
[size=14pt]You're wrong. The reason why Europe and America is soo developed is because the people developed it and not the government. The government just provided the enabling environment for that to happen. But it seems in Nigeria, the government has relegated it's own duty and is doing what the citizens are supposed to be doing. Of what use is the government building beautiful structures which according to you will make them feel discouraged about poverty when they don't have the needed mechanism to achieve such feat by themselves. Even in the poorest countries in the world, they have seen the best of things whether in real life or on TV but their limitations will not enable them even dream for those things.[/size]

zetdee:
A hundred years ago most westerners lived in abject poverty, but had very beautiful structures that still amaze people to this day. You're making it look as though the government is only building structures and doing nothing to develop its citizens. Humans are very complicated creatures, they like to see progress around them in oder to strive forward, it's a feedback loop.

Afam4eva:
[size=14pt]The government is building more white elephant infrastructure and investing very little on the citizens. A look at the amount allocated to education in budget in relation to other sectors for education will speak volume.

A hundred years ago, most westerners were not poor but those were the days of developing themselves and the result is what we see today.
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Afam4eva:
[size=14pt]The government is building more white elephant infrastructure and investing very little on the citizens. A look at the amount allocated to education in budget in relation to other sectors for education will speak volume.

A hundred years ago, most westerners were not poor but those were the days of developing themselves and the result is what we see today.
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Afam4eva:
[size=14pt]The government is building more white elephant infrastructure and investing very little on the citizens. A look at the amount allocated to education in the budget in relation to other sectors for education will speak volume.

A hundred years ago, most westerners were not poor but those were the days of developing themselves and the result is what we see today.
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asha 80: i think this is because we have failed to use what is natural to us to develop ourselves instead we try to copy europians that build gigantic projects forgetting that the minds of the people over there are developed.even the so called education we are getting seems not to be tailored towards our peculiar needs but a continuation of the colonial type education that was embarked on to find replacements for them when they(colonialists) where about leaving the country. Also i believe that the developmental patterns of different regions in this country cannot be the same since we socialized in different ways.

zetdee:
Aren't Nigerians also developing themselves.

Nuzo':
What

Hope you are good Asha, been long.

There's nothing wrong in copying the developmental styles of the Europeans. The problem is that we tend to copy the easy part and forget about the hard part.

The hard part is putting aside personal or family interest and working together for a greater good of the entire community.

The other hard part is avoiding being punished for crimes either by the perpetrator or his allies.

Why is it that most Africans live crime free in the so-called European communities?

The Asians tigers are fast developing not because they getting or remodelling the European education or standard. They have copied everything varbatum.

Until we begin to understand that no kind of education is a waste but our attitudes to life....we may never develop pass this our current sorry state.

Nuzo':


Hope you are good Asha, been long.

There's nothing wrong in copying the developmental styles of the Europeans. The problem is that we tend to copy the easy part and forget about the hard part.

The hard part is putting aside personal or family interest and working together for a greater good of the entire community.

The other hard part is avoiding being punished for crimes either by the perpetrator or his allies.

Why is it that most Africans live crime free in the so-called European communities?

The Asians tigers are fast developing not because they getting or remodelling the European education or standard. They have copied everything varbatum.

Until we begin to understand that no kind of education is a waste but our attitudes to life....we may never develop pass this our current sorry state.

Afam4eva:
[size=14pt]Those who have the resource are developing themselves. WHat about majority who don't?[/size]

asha 80: bros i dey good.yes i believe the aspect of copying the easy part and living out the hard parts especially that aspect believing in the greater good of society when it clashes with what the family wants.to be honest i am not sure how we are going to overcome that.as for punishement for crimes (especially executive crimes or white collar crime)we have not started.as for education correct me if i am wrong but i have always felt that the eucation in asian tiger countries is tailored towards production or being productive?

asha 80: there is also the issue of the wealthier class investing much of their wealth in jewellries,real estate or spent to meet social obligations on ceremonial occassions to maitain status instead of ploughing the money on productive ventures that can grow society economically.

ndu_chucks: If a majority of Nigerians can state and believe, without reservations, that "they are better off today than they were say, 2 years ago" then development would have arrived.

Afam4eva: [size=14pt]

Are we not getting our priorities wrong? Cos it seems what the governors are doing is urbanization rather than development. If you go to Akwa Ibom state for example, despite the fact that the governor is praised for building gigantic structures, the average citizen of that state is poor and cannot relate with what is available in that state
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Inik: Fallacy of hasty generalization. How did you arrive at this assertion? you need to back up this claim with facts.

Afam4eva:
It's not limited to Akwa Ibom state alone. The poverty in Nigeria is alarming and you don't need any stats to see something that's glaring.

Afam4eva:
[size=14pt]The reason most times is that enough expertise is not there to maintain these schools. We're tackling the problems from the top rather than from the bottom.[/size]

Inik:
Urbanization is a form of development that has its own advantages. If a governor can transform a rusty town into a world class city he should be able to come up with policies and initiatives that will reduce the level of poverty. This is what we are demanding for.