Somorin#1:

Nice share thanks.

FWIW, I consider Coastal brand a lower shelf product and won't use it even in my lawn mower but nonetheless it may be better than what is available locally.

Thanks for sharing that site though.

earthrealm: nope..coastal brand isnt the household brand of autozone retailers usa...go to autozone site and check you will see more than 16 oil brands....and ur beloved costal oil..they only have 1 gallon in stock!!!...

never ever heard of coastal oil..n i wouldnt use such an obscure and unknown brand....when i see people who hv 2m naira and above cars talk of cheap oil i really marvel.....you had 2m naira and above to buy a good car, yet shelling out 5 to 10k every 3 to 6months is a big issue to you?.............
meeeeeennnnnnnnnnn u guys need to change ur mind set..if its the cab driver that bought his car 250k saying cheap oil..i wudnt mind

i import parts from the usa..and i had a pal who needed spark plugs for his 2003 suv..........since spark plugs range in price from $1 to as high as $20 apiece, i asked him what price range plugs i shud buy........U KNOW WHAT HE SAID?...BUY THE CHEAPEST!!!!!.all plugs dey fire...........i was simply amazed, the cost savings he thinks he is making by buying the cheapest plugs [copper tip] would be paid back by the increased fuel consumption of his car cos of his cheap mentality...n thats how the average nigerian thinks no pun intended

earthrealm: nope..coastal brand isnt the household brand of autozone retailers usa...go to autozone site and check you will see more than 16 oil brands....and ur beloved costal oil..they only have 1 gallon in stock!!!...

never ever heard of coastal oil..n i wouldnt use such an obscure and unknown brand....when i see people who hv 2m naira and above cars talk of cheap oil i really marvel.....you had 2m naira and above to buy a good car, yet shelling out 5 to 10k every 3 to 6months is a big issue to you?.............
meeeeeennnnnnnnnnn u guys need to change ur mind set..if its the cab driver that bought his car 250k saying cheap oil..i wudnt mind

i import parts from the usa..and i had a pal who needed spark plugs for his 2003 suv..........since spark plugs range in price from $1 to as high as $20 apiece, i asked him what price range plugs i shud buy........U KNOW WHAT HE SAID?...BUY THE CHEAPEST!!!!!.all plugs dey fire...........i was simply amazed, the cost savings he thinks he is making by buying the cheapest plugs [copper tip] would be paid back by the increased fuel consumption of his car cos of his cheap mentality...n thats how the average nigerian thinks no pun intended

samir101ng: @Somorin,

I feel your pain bruv

Being cheap on car maintenance can bite you in the ass later. Now back to those viscosity ratings, a 2003 Toyota Corolla has a viscosity rating of 5w-30 as specified in the owner's manual. Unfortunately, you can't get that rating here from the major engine oil producers. However, i found a very close substitute to it (Quartz 9000 5w-40) at N8,000. It's fully synthetic. Can one use that safely in the car ? Thanks

Ikenna351: I still dont understand why we are all saying Mineral Oils are bad oil. That your car engine doesnt run comfortable with a Mineral oil, does not mean its a bad oil, because that same oil your engine doesnt tolerate, another engine will smile when you run the engine with that oil. Engines are designed differently.

For years, i was using Quartz 5000, 20W-50, on my 2 PRVs, even before i sold one of them and bought a PR as a replacement. I was changing the oils on average of 6 months, never less than 6 months. Not even once did i see something i was not expecting to see on the oil while renewing the old with new oil. The old oils would always look as if they were barely used. The oil filler caps would always look as clean as i last left it. Not once have any of my engine emit blue smoke or underguage between the oil change interval. I drive my cars to any part of the country i travel to, except Lagos or state i do not know the road. Yet, the engines are always in top shape, running on Mineral oil, Quartz 5000.

I switched to semi-synthetic oil, Quartz 7000: 15W-50, last month in my ZN3J (PRV). But am beginning to see that as a waste of money. After discussing with other PRV users in dedicated forums, i realised that most of them have been running 10W 40 or 20W 50 (Mineral oils) in their PRVs for decades now. But they do use 10W 40 (Semi-synthetic or fully synthetic) during winter in those winters. From their long years of experience of those engines, the PRVs run very well on any good Mineral oil thrown at it. I may switch back to Quartz 5000 in the next oil change. I have not decided yet.

Engines are designed deferently. The designs may appear similar, but will not be identical. You cant handle Toyota the way you handle Peugeot. They are two different technologies, even though they would share some of the tech on the engines. Thats why car manufacturers do team up to share technologies and manufacture engines to use in some of their specific cars.

PSA designs their modern engines on Peugeots & Citroens to run perfectly well on Quartz 7000 (15W 50) & Quartz 9000 (5W 40), among others. They may not be ok for non PSA engines. So that Quartz 9000 or 7000 didnt work well in your engine, doesnt make them bad oil, likwise the Mineral oil, Quartz 5000 20W-50. Check the TOTAL website. On each of their products (engine oil), they stated the car manufacturers, apart from from Pigeot & Citroen, that approved/recommended the oils for their cars. For example, on Quartz 9000 (5W 40) can, you will see: Approved/recommended by Peugeot/Citroen, VW, MB, BMW & Porsche. Then in TOTAL website, you will see list of various Peugeot engine models with recommended TOTAL oil grades for each of those engines. They were recommended by PSA, not TOTAL.

Find what oil grade and brand your car manufacturer recommends for your engine.

Again, there is nothing wrong with Mineral oils. We talk as if semi-synthetic & fully synthetic oils have been with us since the '70s, '80s & '90s. When do we started seeing semi-synthetic & fully synthetic oils in Nigerian market? All those decades Nigerians had only Mineral oils in the market, were all engines having sludge issues? Please, if you are an old driver here, prove me wrong. The simple truth is that most modern engines these days dont tolerate Mineral oils, simple. But it doesnt make them bad oils.

Ikenna.

samir101ng: @Ikenna351



@Marpol,

what was the engine oil viscosity rating of your 04' Nissan Xterra ? Are you telling me that the engine oil knocked your engine and you had to replace it ? Wow Any more information from the house as regards using Quartz 9000 (5w-40) for a 2004 Toyota Corolla with a rating of 5w-30 !!! Appreciate it

Ngutor: Good day guys. Very informative thread to say the least. Everybody seems to be making sense and it rather compounds my problem. Simply put, I drive a Honda Accord 2005 model with rocommended oil rating of 5w 20. It has a real mileage of approximately 130k. Problem is I have looked for the recommended oil and have NEVER come across it anywhere. What is my best option then: Run the common 20w 50? Run synthetic and which? Look for the recommended rating and where?
My greatest joy will be to be able to overcome this dilemma.
Thank you

ikeyman00: ^^^ everybody and me inclusive keep saying to u go for 10w40

hope u finally listen this time

10w40 is still recommended here in UK for Honda with high mileage

as u know before u buy one make sure its genuine one ooo

no buy fake destory ur engine den u go say yes i buy am from petrol station

earthrealm: we are all saying the same thing.....i wudnt waste synthetic oil on my dads vboot, or any car produced after 2001....then peugeot cars, throwing synthetic oil at it is wasting time...even most bmw cars..that use 8litres of oil..on most car forums..people drive them for 12months and 15k miles on a single oil change......but i wudnt have an 09 camry n then put dion 20w 50 oil in it.............i hv been very close to knocking my toyota engine sometime in the past due to using the oil for more than 3months n abt 5k miles.......so i wudnt want to experience such again, cos am saving about 5 or 6k..then i wreck my engine.
in a nutshell..just like you said...use the oil that the car manufacturer specified for ur engine, and if u hv a toyota with the 0w 30 recommended...and the true mileage is less than 140k miles...i wud advice you to run 0w40, or max 10w 40 etc

kuntash:

Hello Ikenna, even though some statements in the post might appear outrageous or hyped, the message is quite clear, and aside the biz intent which u smell, its a valid topic worth discussing on car talk,

many car owners need to be aware of the kinda oils they require for their ride .. and this is an avenue to share the ideas,

for example, I was in search of a quality and affordable engine oil for my car sometime last yr, and bumped on many choices and contrasting with our local Mobil-1 Sold here, I found out after using the foreign Mobil-1, other foreign brands of synthetic oils and the mobil-1 sold here, Bro indeed there was much difference, I didnt notice much difference performance-wise using local Mobil-1 with their XHP, and Ondo, Fortoil, Conoil, Total Mineral oils of 20w-50.

But after trying out some others... the diff was clear..

so bro, lets discuss it and refer marketing to another thread..

cheers

samir101ng: @Ikenna351

Your analysis is spot on. As long as the engine oi used in a vehicle conforms to the manufacturers specs then it's all good. Your decision to use synthetic or mineral based engine oil is based solely on your wallet.

@Somorin,

Here you go again ? Wetin worry you with Honda civic. If Adamu, Uchenna & Wole decided to put Mobil 1 synthetic in their Honda civic na their wallet now. You just finished talking to somebody about being cheap on car maintenance and your badgering Honda civic that plenty Nigerians use. Take time o !!!

@Marpol,

what was the engine oil viscosity rating of your 04' Nissan Xterra ? Are you telling me that the engine oil knocked your engine and you had to replace it ? Wow Any more information from the house as regards using Quartz 9000 (5w-40) for a 2004 Toyota Corolla with a rating of 5w-30 !!! Appreciate it

Ngutor: Sultaan but that is not Nigeria?