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Senate Recommendation.: Successors Can’t Vie For Dead President’s, Gov’s Offices by koruji(m): 3:28am On Jun 06, 2013 |
If you read everything there are some good recommendations in the proposed amendment. However, the headline recommendation is like killing a housefly with a gun. My simpler solution to the GEJ imbrogilio: If a VP serves out more than 1 year of a dead or impeached president he can only run for another single term, otherwise he is allowed to contest for two terms. The real solution is to straighten out the system so that we minimize the chance of a president's death in office. The senate's recommendation seems to envision frequent deaths of presidents far into Nigeria's future !!! My real recommendation is to do away with a single presidency for a joint, never-ending, presidency consisting of 6 or so geopolitical representatives. [size=14pt][b]Under this presidency each region will serve as president for two years in a pre-determined turn. National elections for geo-political "presidents" take place every four years, but each one must be re-confirmed or replaced by a vote of the joint assembly of geo-political states every two years. Each of the geopolitical presidents will hold national security, policing and international diplomacy portfolios (two per portfolio), while ministers are appointed by the presidency/legislature to handle economic development and other non-security related portfolios. National level decisions would be taken jointly by the entire body through open (and frequent votes), with the current president allowed the final decision when there is a tie. The job of each portfolio "president" would mainly consist of implementing decisions and bringing issues requiring decisions to the body. I would also reduce our bicameral legislature to a unicameral one, with a size that is mid-way between the current Senate and House of Assembly.[/b][/size] [url]http://www.tribune.com.ng/news2013/en/component/k2/item/13696-senate-constitution-amendment-recommendation-successors-can%E2%80%99t-vie-for-dead-president%E2%80%99s,-gov%E2%80%99s-offices-%E2%80%A2wants-lg-autonomy,-fiscal-federalism,-attorney-general-separated-from-minister-of-justice.html[/url] |
Re: Senate Recommendation.: Successors Can’t Vie For Dead President’s, Gov’s Offices by kunlekunle: 4:39am On Jun 06, 2013 |
since we run presidential system like us, why not a similar portion of their constitution to address the problem. the same case scenario (yaradua's death) was resolved in the 50s. |
Re: Senate Recommendation.: Successors Can’t Vie For Dead President’s, Gov’s Offices by koruji(m): 4:52am On Jun 06, 2013 |
Could you tell us more about this or point to a link? kunlekunle: since we run presidential system like us, why not a similar portion of their constitution to address the problem. |
Re: Senate Recommendation.: Successors Can’t Vie For Dead President’s, Gov’s Offices by psalmizt(m): 4:59am On Jun 06, 2013 |
My question on this successor thingy is, what if the successor then refuses to assume the throne because he knows his chances of running 2 terms will be scuffled? He simply refuses and then they have to call a general election. Not sure that is a route that you will want to take 1year into a 4year term. |
Re: Senate Recommendation.: Successors Can’t Vie For Dead President’s, Gov’s Offices by kunlekunle: 5:02am On Jun 06, 2013 |
Amendment XXII (Ratified February 27, 1951) Section 1 No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President, when this Article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term. |
Re: Senate Recommendation.: Successors Can’t Vie For Dead President’s, Gov’s Offices by koruji(m): 5:13am On Jun 06, 2013 |
Thanks. This is close to the solution I propose above. Obviously, this is a much simpler problem to handle than our legislatures are making it. kunlekunle: Amendment XXII (Ratified February 27, 1951) |
Re: Senate Recommendation.: Successors Can’t Vie For Dead President’s, Gov’s Offices by koruji(m): 5:14am On Jun 06, 2013 |
Yes, that is another complication they are not thinking about in making this recommendation. psalmizt: My question on this successor thingy is, what if the successor then refuses to assume the throne because he knows his chances of running 2 terms will be scuffled? He simply refuses and then they have to call a general election. Not sure that is a route that you will want to take 1year into a 4year term. |
Re: Senate Recommendation.: Successors Can’t Vie For Dead President’s, Gov’s Offices by kunlekunle: 5:19am On Jun 06, 2013 |
koruji: Thanks. This is close to the solution I propose above. full interpretation The Constitution of 1787 set no term limits on the President of the United States. However, George Washington—the first president, and one who could have made himself president-for-life if he wanted to—voluntarily retired from office after two terms, establishing an informal two-term limit that lasted for nearly 150 years. Then Franklin D. Roosevelt got himself elected president four times in a row, serving from 1933 until he died in office in 1945. Most Americans at the time loved Roosevelt and were happy to have him stay in the White House to help guide the country through the difficult challenges of the Great Depression and World War II. After FDR was gone, however, many people began to think that the two-term limit really had been a good thing; it didn't seem healthy for a democracy to be led by the same individual for decades at a time. So the Twenty-second Amendment turned George Washington's example into official constitutional law; today no president can serve more than two full terms. (A vice president who serves out less than two years of his predecessor's term is allowed another two terms of his own, which means that it is theoretically possible for one individual to serve a maximum of ten years in the White House; in more normal circumstances, eight years is the max.) |
Re: Senate Recommendation.: Successors Can’t Vie For Dead President’s, Gov’s Offices by musiwa26: 5:43am On Jun 06, 2013 |
ti won ba fi 6 zone si ilu constitution. a ma overthrown wo ni. to ba lo jo ko si ile pe lu iyawo wara wara to se gbogbo ma ba le. |
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