Katsumoto:

It has everything to do with the topic. Have you Southerners not dominated (colonized) the Northerners enough as well with education? You already contribute more than 75% of pupils to the unity schools. Do you need for it to be 100%? Similar to how Westerners have colonized you economically and don't need to finish you off. In both cases, there is a safety net. The Europeans can invade you at any point in time and there isn't Bleep all you can do about it. Your response was a poor one.

asha 80: explain how?

Katsumoto:

It has everything to do with the topic. Have you Southerners not dominated (colonized) the Northerners enough as well with education? You already contribute more than 75% of pupils to the unity schools. Do you need for it to be 100%? Similar to how Westerners have colonized you economically and don't need to finish you off. In both cases, there is a safety net. The Europeans can invade you at any point in time and there isn't Bleep all you can do about it. Your response was a poor one.

ShyM-X:
After reading what Katsumoto and DK posted on another thread about the same topic - I understand why the quota system is necessary in such schools. If the concept of "Unity Schools" was to unify the country by getting kids from different parts of country to attend the same schools - I honestly don't think there's anything wrong in applying quota system a la affirmative action for parts of the Nigeria that are educationally backwards. If you don't apply that; then it defeats the reason why those schools were created in the first place.

There's a similar policy in the UK and America for kids from inner cities. Since most of you believe in Nigeria; you need to stop moaning about everything and help the other side get to your level. That's the spirit of one country and being your brother's keeper.

Revolva: This country called Nigeria..is just a total fiasco....so much discrimination and tribalism.. and it wont and never allow us to grow....

Katsumoto:

If the Yoruba kids compete with the hausa kids using state of residence and there is no quota, using your analogy would all the Yoruba kids not get in ahead of the Hausa kids even if they are in Kano?

asha 80: what stops a kano hausa kid from assimilating what is being taught to a kano yoruba kid if they are being taught in the same class,same teacher,same school and the same locality?i hope you are not infering that the kano hausa kid is naturally slow in learning?

oiseworld:

I need not finish reading your question before concluding its out of place. What does military might have to do with quota system within different nations. I'll expect you to ask if

NOI got to the world bank through pity.
If Wole soyinka became a noble prize by federal character.
If Obama became the US president on pity or competence. etc

If you claim the southerners have dominated the federal schools to more than 75% and the private schools to over 90%, then why isn't it translated in the federal govt? Where the reverse is the case. The North are holding swey to govt establishment to over 80% while the rest of the south share the remaining 20%. How come?

Where did they come from?

olu_kenzo :
Hey, I try, I really try to respect everyone's perspective of issues but this quota system, federal character crap POV is highly jaundiced.

Merit! We would be way ahead if we were a people that respect merits. Why does it always have to be paddy-paddy, square pegs in round holes, man-know-man? Why?

This is the major reason aside from his mediocrity why I am mad at Goodluck Jonathan. We need a goddamn sovereign conference in this country!

Obasanjo being a traitor (my forefathers forgive me for abusing an elderly man) that he is, had the opportunity to set this country right, but no he didn't. And some Danjuma would come tomorrow to ask me to be grateful to Obasanjo. Grateful my black arze!

And Kats, this is the 3rd time(?) I'm bringing it to your notice that the quota system goes beyond the unity schools. Same thing happens with the catchment area thing in the universities; Federal character in civil service recruitment and appointments.

We can't all be equal, but fairness can make us one.

Katsumoto:

I am not inferring anything. You made the analogy; dont make it mine.

asha 80: forget what u feel what i was infering...answer what i asked before that inferal statement i made.

Katsumoto:

Nigeria needs to be renogiated.

asha 80: forget what u feel what i was infering...answer what i asked before that inferal statement i made.

Katsumoto:

If the Yoruba kids compete with the hausa kids using state of residence and there is no quota, using your analogy would all the Yoruba kids not get in ahead of the Hausa kids even if they are in Kano?

asha 80: what stops a kano hausa kid from assimilating what is being taught to a kano yoruba kid if they are being taught in the same class,same teacher,same school and the same locality?i hope you are not infering that the kano hausa kid is naturally slow in learning?

asha 80: you said the above and replied below

asha 80: i hope u know some of these southerners grew up in the same enviroment with the northerners you are talking about...same nursery and primary in places like kano,kaduna, sokoto etc.why isnt state residence instead of origin used here?the youruba kid and hausa kid went to the same nursery and primary school but their cut off marks is miles apart?

Katsumoto:

And I was responding to your quote below. So I don't get the point you are trying to make. If you are asking me why the Hausa kid is not as receptive to classroom learning as the Yoruba kid, then that is a different debate. My point remains - UNITY schools were created for a reason.

asha 80: and i say that reason has been defeated.anyway since the so called unity schools are almost dead nothing to worry about.

SouthEast: Ethnic Quota For Nigerians Is Challenged
By JAMES BROOKE, Special to the New York Times
Published: November 06, 1988

At the age of 11, Adeyinka Badejo is learning the hard way about affirmative action, Nigerian style.

The daughter of an eminent political science professor here, Miss Badejo hoped last month to win admission to a Nigerian Unity School - a Government-financed prep school for top universities here and abroad.

To Miss Badejo's dismay, she discovered that several of her sixth-grade classmates scored lower than she did on a national test, but that they won admission to the prestigious boarding school system. In this West African nation where virtually everyone is of the same race, the difference is ''state of origin'' - often a code phrase in Nigeria for tribe.

Miss Badejo scored 293 on a 400-point test - three points below the cutoff for girls from Ogun state, a southern state largely populated by members of the Yoruba tribe. If she had been born to parents from Kano state, the northern heartland of the Hausa and Fulani tribes, she would have sailed into a Unity School with a score as low as 151. 'Federal Character' Policy
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Miss Badejo's rejection was a result of Nigeria's policy of ''reflecting the federal character.'' Through nationally mandated quotas, this policy is intended to insure that Nigeria's disadvantaged tribal groups have equal access to higher education and to Government employment.

Femi Badejo, Adeyinka's father and a professor at the University of Lagos, decided to sue Nigeria's Minister of Education on the grounds that the Unity School's admission policy constitutes discrimination.

In Nigeria, Africa's most populous nation and one of its most diverse, the case has attracted attention comparable to lawsuits challenging affirmative action programs in the United States.

Late last month, Nigerian reporters packed the three wooden press benches in Court 19 of Lagos High Court as opposing lawyers in black robes and white wigs argued their positions.

During a recess, Mr. Badejo, clad in a yellow dashiki-style shirt favored by the Yoruba people, limited his comments to saying: ''There is no comparison between affirmative action in the United States and 'federal character' in Nigeria.''

For Nigeria's southerners, Mr. Badejo's case has become a minor cause celebre, and several southern educators and politicians have sharply attacked the 10-year-old quota system. 'Unjust Discrimination'

''I think it's unjust discrimination,'' Lateef Kayode Jakande, a former governor of Lagos State, told a Nigerian reporter. ''The way out is to encourage the underdeveloped ones to catch up, rather than to bring down the developed ones.''

In Ibadan, the nation's largest city and one that is largely Yoruba, Dapo Ajayi, a high school principal, said the national quota system discourages southern students who see it as reverse discrimination.

Support for the federal character policy comes from Nigeria's north. The northerners, most of them Muslim, long resisted Western-style education first introduced by Britain, the colonial power here until 1960. Nigerians on the Atlantic coast -Yoruba in the west and members of the Ibo tribe in the east - sent their children in large numbers to British colonial schools.

Today, almost 30 years after independence, a new generation of Nigerians bears the stamp of this colonial inheritance. In the test Miss Badejo took last September, the cutoff point was set by the score attained by the 500th-ranking boy or girl in each state.

Cutoff scores for students from states largely populated by the Ibo or the Yoruba ranged from 280 to 303. Cutoff scores for students from northern states with high Hausa and Fulani populations ranged from 151 to 252.

http://www.nytimes.com/1988/11/06/world/ethnic-quota-for-nigerians-is-challenged.html

SouthEast: Ethnic Quota For Nigerians Is Challenged
By JAMES BROOKE, Special to the New York Times
Published: November 06, 1988

At the age of 11, Adeyinka Badejo is learning the hard way about affirmative action, Nigerian style.

The daughter of an eminent political science professor here, Miss Badejo hoped last month to win admission to a Nigerian Unity School - a Government-financed prep school for top universities here and abroad.

To Miss Badejo's dismay, she discovered that several of her sixth-grade classmates scored lower than she did on a national test, but that they won admission to the prestigious boarding school system. In this West African nation where virtually everyone is of the same race, the difference is ''state of origin'' - often a code phrase in Nigeria for tribe.

Miss Badejo scored 293 on a 400-point test - three points below the cutoff for girls from Ogun state, a southern state largely populated by members of the Yoruba tribe. If she had been born to parents from Kano state, the northern heartland of the Hausa and Fulani tribes, she would have sailed into a Unity School with a score as low as 151. 'Federal Character' Policy
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Miss Badejo's rejection was a result of Nigeria's policy of ''reflecting the federal character.'' Through nationally mandated quotas, this policy is intended to insure that Nigeria's disadvantaged tribal groups have equal access to higher education and to Government employment.

Femi Badejo, Adeyinka's father and a professor at the University of Lagos, decided to sue Nigeria's Minister of Education on the grounds that the Unity School's admission policy constitutes discrimination.

In Nigeria, Africa's most populous nation and one of its most diverse, the case has attracted attention comparable to lawsuits challenging affirmative action programs in the United States.

Late last month, Nigerian reporters packed the three wooden press benches in Court 19 of Lagos High Court as opposing lawyers in black robes and white wigs argued their positions.

During a recess, Mr. Badejo, clad in a yellow dashiki-style shirt favored by the Yoruba people, limited his comments to saying: ''There is no comparison between affirmative action in the United States and 'federal character' in Nigeria.''

For Nigeria's southerners, Mr. Badejo's case has become a minor cause celebre, and several southern educators and politicians have sharply attacked the 10-year-old quota system. 'Unjust Discrimination'

''I think it's unjust discrimination,'' Lateef Kayode Jakande, a former governor of Lagos State, told a Nigerian reporter. ''The way out is to encourage the underdeveloped ones to catch up, rather than to bring down the developed ones.''

In Ibadan, the nation's largest city and one that is largely Yoruba, Dapo Ajayi, a high school principal, said the national quota system discourages southern students who see it as reverse discrimination.

Support for the federal character policy comes from Nigeria's north. The northerners, most of them Muslim, long resisted Western-style education first introduced by Britain, the colonial power here until 1960. Nigerians on the Atlantic coast -Yoruba in the west and members of the Ibo tribe in the east - sent their children in large numbers to British colonial schools.

Today, almost 30 years after independence, a new generation of Nigerians bears the stamp of this colonial inheritance. In the test Miss Badejo took last September, the cutoff point was set by the score attained by the 500th-ranking boy or girl in each state.

Cutoff scores for students from states largely populated by the Ibo or the Yoruba ranged from 280 to 303. Cutoff scores for students from northern states with high Hausa and Fulani populations ranged from 151 to 252.

http://www.nytimes.com/1988/11/06/world/ethnic-quota-for-nigerians-is-challenged.html

Meanwhile================,


2013 National Common Entrance Examination Cut-Off Marks Released (State-by-State)

The Federal Ministry of Education has released the cut-off marks on State-by-State basis of the just concluded 2013 National Common Entrance Examination for admission processes into Federal Unity Colleges nation-wide.
Parents are advised to check the results of their wards which have been posted on notice board of all Unity Colleges throughout the Federation.
Pupils that scored above the cut-off marks based on their state of origin are eligible for admission on merit.
Abia - Male(130) Female(130)
Adamawa - Male(62) Female(62)
Akwa-Ibom - Male(123) Female(123)
Anambra - Male(139) Female(139)
Bauchi - Male(35) Female(35)
Bayelsa - Male(72) Female(72)
Benue - Male(111) Female(111)
Borno - Male(45) Female(45)
Cross-Rivers - Male(97) Female(97)
Delta - Male(131) Female(131)
Ebonyi - Male(112) Female(112)
Edo - Male(127) Female(127)
Ekiti - Male(119) Female(119)
Enugu - Male(134) Female(134)
Gombe - Male(58) Female(58)
Imo - Male(138) Female(138)
Jigawa - Male(44) Female(44)
Kaduna - Male(91) Female (91)
Kano - Male(67) Female(67)
Kastina - Male(60) Female(60)
Kebbi - Male(9) Female(20)
Kogi - Male(119) Female(119)
Kwara - Male(123) Female(123)
Lagos - Male(133) Female(133)
Nassarawa - Male(58) Female(58)
Niger - Male(93) Female(93)
Ogun - Male(131) Female(131)
Ondo - Male(126) Female(126)
Osun - Male(127) Female(127)
Oyo - Male(127) Female(127)
Plateau - Male(97) Female(97)
Rivers - Male(118) Female(118)
Sokoto - Male(9) Female(13)
Taraba - Male(3) Female(11)
Yobe - Male(2) Female(27)
Zamfara - Male(4) Female(2)
FCT Abuja - Male(90) Female(90)

http://www.nigeriavillagesquare.com/forum/main-square/77394-2013-national-common-entrance-examination-cut-off-marks-released-state-state.html

tuniski: Those who introduced quota system, federal character , rotation and all manners of "safety nets" according Katsomotu never which Nigeria well or better still couldn't see beyond their noses! After decades of these backward policies, have the gaps been bridged? Rather it has slowed those very ones the policy intended to help through the window! and if not for the western powers attempt @ keeping others down by maintaining market for their weaponry, no nation wont produce weapons to protect itself!