Tgirl4real: I have read, I have so many question, but I have been up and doing. I will make a proper post wen I am up to it.



I see...

obadiah777: any questions on what you read so far ?

NerdyInterests:

I'm done trolling now. Time to study!

Tgirl4real: hmmm....

It's my internet that's messing up. Can't get any work done. Browsing with my mobile now. Letz see what I can do...


Brb.

NerdyInterests: Nah, not in that sense. Was goofing around. Still got the recommended chapters to study. Baby steps.

Mr President: Teach us about the fall of man, the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, the tree of life, the forbidden fruit please

obadiah777: thats the whole of chapter 2 and chapter 3 sire. would require another brave effort and lots of typing lol. i will get to that sire. let me be sure to confound all the scoffers in chapter 1 first and make sure it is fully understood sire .

Mr President: eagerly waiting sire, bustling with excitement and expectation.

Mr President: eagerly waiting sire, bustling with excitement and expectation.

obadiah777: i liked that precept you dropped for the meaning of heaven and earth. that was a good precept. lamentations 2 vs 1. lord kicked them out of rulership of the world to being one of the ruled because they messed up

infact another precept to your precept is >>>>> romans 11 vs 11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.

obadiah777: verse 1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. THESE ARE THE SPIRIT TYPES. ONE IS GREATER THAN THE OTHER. ONE IS ON TOP AND ONE IS BELOW. ONE IS THE RULER AND ONE IS THE RULED. THE RULER IS THE SPIRIT OF ADAM AND THE RULED IS THE SPIRIT OF THE GENTILES. SO THESE ARE SPIRITS NOT ACTUAL HEAVEN AND EARTH. HEAVEN IS RULERSHIP AND EARTH IS BEING RULED

verse 2-5 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day. NOW HERE WE ARE DEALING WITH THE SPIRIT OF THE GENTILES ( EARTH ). NOW IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WHILE THE SPIRIT OF BOTH ADAM AND THE GENTILES WERE MADE AT THE SAME TIME, HOWEVER THE BODIES OF THE GENTILES WERE MADE BEFORE THE BODY OF ISRAEL AS YOU WILL SEE WHEN WE GET TO VERSE 24-26. SO BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THE GENTILES WERE ON EARTH LONG BEFORE ADAM CAME ON EARTH. THERE WERE GENTILE CIVILIZATIONS BEFORE ADAM WAS MADE. THE NATION OF ADAM WAS NOT THE FIRST NATION OF PEOPLE ON EARTH. SO ANYWAY BACK TO THE VERSES. NOW THE EARTH WAS WITHOUT FORM AND VOID AND WAS IN DARKNESS MEANS THE SPIRIT OF THE GENTILES WAS EMPTY.HOWEVER THEY WOULD NEED EMPIRES TO BE IN CHARGE OF THE OTHER EMPIRES JUST AS WE HAVE TODAY WITH ONE EMPIRE ON TOP OF THE OTHER. THESE EMPIRES ON TOP CANNOT BE IN DARKNESS. THEY NEED SOME WISDOM, KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE GENTILE FORM. THIS IS THE LIGHT THAT WAS CREATED IN THE LEADING EMPIRES OF THE GENTILES TO SEPARATE THEM FROM THE REST OF THE GENTILES GETTING RULED WHO WOULD STILL BE IN DARKNESS. THE GENTILES RULING ARE CALLED THE FOWLS OF HEAVEN WHILE THE GENTILES BEING RULED ARE CALLED THE BEASTS OF THE FIELD OR THE FISHES OF THE SEA.

the heaven and earth were made on the same day, and based on this explanation, the heaven is the ruler while the earth was the ruled. why didnt the heaven control the earth so that they will work in accordance to their will and if adam was made later, who were the heavens bfor adam came. i believe my questions are straight forward.

mcfynest:

the heaven and earth were made on the same day, and based on this explanation, the heaven is the ruler while the earth was the ruled. why didnt the heaven control the earth so that they will work in accordance to their will and if adam was made later, who were the heavens bfor adam came. i believe my questions are straight forward.

Mr President: Teach us about the fall of man, the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, the tree of life, the forbidden fruit please

Tgirl4real: I hope Obadiah knows that we are humans and we gotta think. We just can’t swallow this hook , line and sinker without asking questions.

Seriously now, I have heard or read somewhere that the Whites believe that when God created the beast of the field, it was referring to blacks and that is why we live in the jungle. Even with modern civilization, they still don’t accept us as equals. So, I don’t think it is out of place for a Negro to say same thing the other way round. The info must have come from somewhere. Lol

I also thought we were to start with some bible lingos. I want to believe some of these words have several usage/meaning. I know you have said somewhere that Knowledge is water, here, we see water as people.



My questions;

Firstly, you must know that I am hearing all these for the first time (since I came across you that is), though, it doesn’t totally sound out of place to me (probably cos I have been interacting with you. ). I have always had questions with regards to the book of Genesis, esp with the account of creation, the serpent that deceived Eve (what kind of animal is it today), what the judgment God pronounced in Gen 3:15 mean and what Cain said in Gen 4: 13-15. I was wondering who those he said would kill him are since he has just killed his only brother and the other people remaining are his parents. My first concern however is;


From your first Post…


1. All the things listed in Gen 1 are things we see around today; the birds of the air, fishes, animals, sun, moon, stars, sky, sea, dry land and so on. If what is written there doesn’t literally mean what it is, what explanation do you have for creation (every other thing except man) as we see it today?

2. You said God created spirits, will I be right to say that God created all the total no of spirits that will be at once and we only keep coming back through reincarnation.

B. If this is so, does that mean the idea of destiny (ayanmo), reincarnation, deity giving children, spirits coming as human (abiku, ogbanje n co) that we see in Yoruba/African culture have some element of truth in them?

C. Did you use Isreal to represent God’s people to help our thinking?

D. Who are these heathens/gentiles? What kind of specie are they? What kind of bodies do they have?

E. When God used flood to wipe out the human race, was it just the Isrealiste (God’s people) that was affected? Where were the Gentiles then?

F. I don’t understand verses 2-5. Are you saying when God said “let there be light”, he created the Empires (Gentile bodies) and gave authority (enlightenment) to the ones that will be on top? So DAY will be the head, while Night will be those under?

Are these Empires nations or individuals?
Attend to these while I bring more…

Kindly answer my questions line by line, the way I asked them.

Thanks.

obadiah777: African Economic Conference ? una dey plot how to chop some more of that oyel money ? [/b]

biafranqueen: naw mostly meeting with people that want to do business in Africa also meeting with US Politricks to see what they are up too my own involvement is too show case the opportunities for Nigeria and I focus more on AA coming back to Africa letting them know they are welcome. I am also trying to get these politricks to make it easier for Nigerians to export goods to US it is not easy they are more interested in flooding the Nigerian market , that was all they were talking about exporting to Africa and promising billions for individuals that want to do business all over Africa mostly Kenya,Nigeria, Ghana, Uganda.

Tgirl4real: Wow!

You always have been giving information in bits and pieces that leaves more questions to answer, thatz why I love this approach. So, you can't blame me if I keep bringing them up.

You totally got my first point wrong. What I meant is that the White perverted the story. For them to have such a story, then it must have originated from somewhere.

As a matter of fact, I got hold of the KJV 1611 yesterday and I read large part of how the Roman Empire tried erasing the memory of the Jews totally away from their land and corrupt their religion. So, all you've been saying fell into place with the accompanying scriptures.

I hope you were not disappointed. I ask questions a lot, so don't be pissed.

As per reincarnation, you have said it numerous times, but you have never said it this way.

You see why it's good we are having this teaching...things are falling into place gradually.

We are going somewhere. lol

Concerning the Gentile nation:

If my memory serves me right, are they not an off-shoot of the children of Noah?

Can you also explain 1Pet3: 19, 20?

Thanks.

obadiah777: SOUNDS INTERESTING LUV. MORE GREASE TO YA ELBOWS. HOWEVER ALL THESE WORLD SYSTEMS IS COMING TO AN END REAL SOON. ALL THIS IMPORT AND EXPORT STUFF. YOU HAVE A VERY SHORT TIME TO DO THAT

biafranqueen: Double dribble

biafranqueen: The only bible I have ion hand is the New World Translation which someone dash me I will get the 1611.
Gen1:14 And God went to say: "Let the Luminaries come to be in the expanse of the heavens to make a division between the day and night"

So does that mean let the Enlightened ones aka Illuminated rulers tell those in darkness that they are missing the good life in the light?

(Continue) and they must serve as signs and for seasons and for days and years verse 15 And they must serve as luminaries in the expanse of the heavens to shine upon the earth
Meaning luminaries or Prophets or Gods Messengers must guide the rulers and keep them righteous .

Verse 16 And God proceeded to make the two great luminaries the greater luminaries for dominating the day and the lesser for night and also the stars. Verse 17 Thus God put them in the expanse of the heavens to shine upon the earth v18 and to dominate by day and by night and to make division between light and darkness,

Basically he made Prophets to guides some correctly and another one to mislead ? Why Create confusion among people? What is the purpose? Why did God see that it was Good that he created a division in the 4 th day? Confusion begets destruction and My God is not suppose to be the author of confusion

biafranqueen: Still gotta eat till then