on a good day:

My
brother,the strike is not really about money or salaries but mainly for
professionalism and separation of duties along the lines of professional
qualification,people are fighting to free themselves from the strangulating clutch
of medical doctors,people/workers feel that what we run in nigeria is the
ministry of doctors and not ministry of health,the medical doctors feels that a
lab scientist who through his duty comfirms diagnosis before a doctor could
commence treatment is not a professional after five years of education,the
ministry of health feels no other person is qualified to head an hospital (an
administrative post) except a medical doctor,the medical doctors feels that a
clinical pharmacist is not competent enough to prescribe a drug,advice him on
drug use etc,the minister of health is a medical doctor and he foolishly thinks a
medical doctor is a mr know it all,the disharmony in the health sector is
orchestrated by dr ransom kuti and sustained by NMA, The workers feels that as
a profesional,they should be allowed to do their job,and what is due to them
should be given to them,how can a medical doctor feel he/she can do without
the the nurse,if you see the way and manner they order nurses around,you will
feel for them, my dear when and anytime the president and the minister of
health ensure that everyone does their work according to their professional
inclination and compensated as such,then this sort of strike will be a thing of
the past.

yu re a fool. Dis is hw it is done evrywhr not onli in nig. D med doctor is d head of a med team. Under no conditn wil a nurse or pharmacist or lab techni head d health sector neva done. Hw wil dey b receivin same salary wt d doctors. Neva!! Den dey av to go bak to skul to study hard for medicine nt all dos 3yr nursin skul dey went to or half baked health tech skul dey wnt to and nw dey av d guts to say dey wana receiv same salary wt doctors. Dey wana bcom cmd of hosp dey re bunch of ididots. Dos nurses wey no sabi anytn other dan to gist n gossip in d wards dey talk too. Total rubbish FG can neva ansa des stupid ppl. If u wana b doctors medical skul is opened for evrybodi is neva too late. Rubbish

on a good day:

My
brother,the strike is not really about money or salaries but mainly for
professionalism and separation of duties along the lines of professional
qualification,people are fighting to free themselves from the strangulating clutch
of medical doctors,people/workers feel that what we run in nigeria is the
ministry of doctors and not ministry of health,the medical doctors feels that a
lab scientist who through his duty comfirms diagnosis before a doctor could
commence treatment is not a professional after five years of education,the
ministry of health feels no other person is qualified to head an hospital (an
administrative post) except a medical doctor,the medical doctors feels that a
clinical pharmacist is not competent enough to prescribe a drug,advice him on
drug use etc,the minister of health is a medical doctor and he foolishly thinks a
medical doctor is a mr know it all,the disharmony in the health sector is
orchestrated by dr ransom kuti and sustained by NMA, The workers feels that as
a profesional,they should be allowed to do their job,and what is due to them
should be given to them,how can a medical doctor feel he/she can do without
the the nurse,if you see the way and manner they order nurses around,you will
feel for them, my dear when and anytime the president and the minister of
health ensure that everyone does their work according to their professional
inclination and compensated as such,then this sort of strike will be a thing of
the past.

Ur point exactly...??
Total rubbish.
Wen next u are in the hospital look for a nurse to attend to u or a lab technician.

Engineer!!!
Hmmm!! What will u say when laborers decide today and say they are closer to d building than d Engineers so they shld be regarded as d Engineer? Grant their demands? Fine! It is our nation! Next time when u go to hospital go and see a Nurse or Potter, don't border looking for a doctor!
This morning I went to work & met a patient gasping, I looked for oxygen to give her but there was none as nurses have locked them up. Tell me if u were that patient...!

on a good day:

My
brother,the strike is not really about money or salaries but mainly for
professionalism and separation of duties along the lines of professional
qualification,people are fighting to free themselves from the strangulating clutch
of medical doctors,people/workers feel that what we run in nigeria is the
ministry of doctors and not ministry of health,the medical doctors feels that a
lab scientist who through his duty comfirms diagnosis before a doctor could
commence treatment is not a professional after five years of education,the
ministry of health feels no other person is qualified to head an hospital (an
administrative post) except a medical doctor,the medical doctors feels that a
clinical pharmacist is not competent enough to prescribe a drug,advice him on
drug use etc,the minister of health is a medical doctor and he foolishly thinks a
medical doctor is a mr know it all,the disharmony in the health sector is
orchestrated by dr ransom kuti and sustained by NMA, The workers feels that as
a profesional,they should be allowed to do their job,and what is due to them
should be given to them,how can a medical doctor feel he/she can do without
the the nurse,if you see the way and manner they order nurses around,you will
feel for them, my dear when and anytime the president and the minister of
health ensure that everyone does their work according to their professional
inclination and compensated as such,then this sort of strike will be a thing of
the past.

You are just being sentimental.
Why would a pharmacist prescribe a drug for a patient he didn't clerk and examine and does not know the peculiarities surrounding the diagnosis (which may be provisional)
A well trained pharmacist will vet the dose of the drug prescribed, look out for any potential drug- drug interaction the doctor may have missed and make sure the prescribed drug is dispensed.
He may also suggest a generic alternative if a drug is unavailable.
His duty is not to prescribe drugs. He may however dispense OTCMs over the counter mediacations.

Nurses work under and with doctors.
They carry out doctors instructions written in the patients' case files.
They are indispensable in modern health practice.

Lab scientists in the hospital setting have a clear role of carrying out lab investigations ordered by the doctor.
They are not the same as research scientists working on specialised labs.

Zipper002:

Ur point exactly...??
Total rubbish.
Wen next u are in the hospital look for a nurse to attend to u or a lab technician.

so only Doctors attend to patients in the hospital, and do ur research very well b/4 posting any Comment they are called med. lab. scientist not not lab technician, lab. technician are junior staff to med. lab. scientist in the laboratory, try to learn and respect other other professionals in health sectors, if u have respected other professional, i believe nigeria health sector will not be where we are today, respect is reciprocal, you dont gain what you dont earn

kinkymax: yu re a fool. Dis is hw it is done evrywhr not onli in nig. D med doctor is d head of a med team. Under no conditn wil a nurse or pharmacist or lab techni head d health sector neva done. Hw wil dey b receivin same salary wt d doctors. Neva!! Den dey av to go bak to skul to study hard for medicine nt all dos 3yr nursin skul dey went to or half baked health tech skul dey wnt to and nw dey av d guts to say dey wana receiv same salary wt doctors. Dey wana bcom cmd of hosp dey re bunch of ididots. Dos nurses wey no sabi anytn other dan to gist n gossip in d wards dey talk too. Total rubbish FG can neva ansa des stupid ppl. If u wana b doctors medical skul is opened for evrybodi is neva too late. Rubbish

you call me a fool because of you stupdity,and ignorance,who made the doctor head of the medical team,how can you lead someone who does not want to be led by you,you foolishness is legendary to think that that a nurse,a scientist or a pharmacist cannot head the hospital,you operate with a kid's brain to argue that nurses do 3yrs schooling,my friend you have lost touch with reality to think that a clinical pharmacist does not/should not see the patient, infact you are ignorance personified to call any other professional an idiot. since you think the government should not ansa this "stupid ppl",then i wish you well..meanwhile this strike continues

Zipper002:

Ur point exactly...??
Total rubbish.
Wen next u are in the hospital look for a nurse to attend to u or a lab technician.

my brother,anyone in the hospital should appreciate the nurse that nurses them,appreciate the scientist that comfirm their dignoses,they love the pharmacist that made their drugs as well as the doctor that diagnosed them,you see by so doing everybody will be satisfied doing their job....stop lording yourself over others

kinkymax: yu re a fool. Dis is hw it is done evrywhr not onli in nig. D med doctor is d head of a med team. Under no conditn wil a nurse or pharmacist or lab techni head d health sector neva done. Hw wil dey b receivin same salary wt d doctors. Neva!! Den dey av to go bak to skul to study hard for medicine nt all dos 3yr nursin skul dey went to or half baked health tech skul dey wnt to and nw dey av d guts to say dey wana receiv same salary wt doctors. Dey wana bcom cmd of hosp dey re bunch of ididots. Dos nurses wey no sabi anytn other dan to gist n gossip in d wards dey talk too. Total rubbish FG can neva ansa des stupid ppl. If u wana b doctors medical skul is opened for evrybodi is neva too late. Rubbish

maybe u were not on this planet to know the difference between med. lab. scientist and lab. technician, a medical lab. scientist spent 5yrs in the university and after dat a 1yr intership and, we now have nusrsing been studied in the university, i believe u know that pharmacy is now a 6yr programme hence they are Also called Doctors of pharmacy, so when next commenting get ur facts right, so pharmacist, med. lab. scientist, nurses, physiotherapy, image scientist all attend university and are all professional, so y are trying to lie to everyone, university of ibadan and LAUTECH is offering medical lab. science and some of dis courses

There is no way d govt ll concede to deir claims rather health administrators ll start running hospitals which ll still take time to be accomplished cos dere is no course like health administration in nigeria, making deir salaries at par with doctors will only cause chaos in d health sector likewise deir so called consultancy, all this things ll cause chaos and d govt ll not allow dat, first if deir salary is increased, it ll have to be met with a proportionate increase in doctors salary of wich d govt don't have dat kind of money. So let dem cont deir gragra wen dey r tired dey ll call d strike off

eaglechild:
You are just being sentimental.
Why would a pharmacist prescribe a drug for a patient he didn't clerk and examine and does not know the peculiarities surrounding the diagnosis (which may be provisional)
A well trained pharmacist will vet the dose of the drug prescribed, look out for any potential drug- drug interaction the doctor may have missed and make sure the prescribed drug is dispensed.
He may also suggest a generic alternative if a drug is unavailable.
His duty is not to prescribe drugs. He may however dispense OTCMs over the counter mediacations.

Nurses work under and with doctors.
They carry out doctors instructions written in the patients' case files.
They are indispensable in modern health practice.

Lab scientists in the hospital setting have a clear role of carrying out lab investigations ordered by the doctor.
They are not the same as research scientists working on specialised labs.

do you know what a clinical pharmacist is?

enny09:
maybe u were not on this planet to know the difference between med. lab. scientist and lab. technician, a medical lab. scientist spent 5yrs in the university and after dat a 1yr intership and, we now have nusrsing been studied in the university, i believe u know that pharmacy is now a 6yr programme hence they are Also called Doctors of pharmacy, so when next commenting get ur facts right, so pharmacist, med. lab. scientist, nurses, physiotherapy, image scientist all attend university and are all professional, so y are trying to lie to everyone, university of ibadan and LAUTECH is offering medical lab. science and some of dis courses

thank you..enlighten his(kinkymax) ignorance

Zipper002: Engineer!!!
Hmmm!! What will u say when laborers decide today and say they are closer to d building than d Engineers so they shld be regarded as d Engineer? Grant their demands? Fine! It is our nation! Next time when u go to hospital go and see a Nurse or Potter, don't border looking for a doctor!
This morning I went to work & met a patient gasping, I looked for oxygen to give her but there was none as nurses have locked them up. Tell me if u were that patient...!

i don't want to call u a stupid person,however,you should know that a building is not a human body and are at all not the same in terms of sophistication,so you comparison holds no water and secondly,if the minister of health and the cmd had done the job,that nurse would be on duty....so i ask you if you were any of the other profesionals,how would you feel..

Dnaz: There is no way d govt ll concede to deir claims rather health administrators ll start running hospitals which ll still take time to be accomplished cos dere is no course like health administration in nigeria, making deir salaries at par with doctors will only cause chaos in d health sector likewise deir so called consultancy, all this things ll cause chaos and d govt ll not allow dat, first if deir salary is increased, it ll have to be met with a proportionate increase in doctors salary of wich d govt don't have dat kind of money. So let dem cont deir gragra wen dey r tired dey ll call d strike off

my brother,wetin dey pain you,and why do you think you better than the other ppl, hian!!

Your comments pls. What do you think about the federal medival dotors strike? The bone of contention is that the doctor doesn't necesarily have to be the head if the medical team. And that nurses, pharmcist,lab. Scientist and technicians can also be consultants, chief medical directors, commissioner of health and ministers of health? And should they strike. , shutting hospitals nationwide for these issues? What should the FG do in the circumstance ?

Dnaz: There is no way d govt ll concede to deir claims rather health administrators ll start running hospitals which ll still take time to be accomplished cos dere is no course like health administration in nigeria, making deir salaries at par with doctors will only cause chaos in d health sector likewise deir so called consultancy, all this things ll cause chaos and d govt ll not allow dat, first if deir salary is increased, it ll have to be met with a proportionate increase in doctors salary of wich d govt don't have dat kind of money. So let dem cont deir gragra wen dey r tired dey ll call d strike off

so y dont we have health administrators in nigeria, because doctors have push them out of d system for dia selfish intrest and politicized the health sectors, y will i study a course when i knew i have no place to work in nigeria, mind you we have health administrators in nigeria, if only the Doctors will allow them to perform dia duty.

blessedjosh: Your comments pls. What do you think about the federal medival dotors strike? The bone of contention is that the doctor doesn't necesarily have to be the head if the medical team. And that nurses, pharmcist,lab. Scientist and technicians can also be consultants, chief medical directors, commissioner of health and ministers of health? And should they strike. , shutting hospitals nationwide for these issues? What should the FG do in the circumstance ?

SACK THE MINISTER OF HEALTH AND CALL EVERYBODY TO A ROUND TABLE

All you guys run shifts yet u want call duty allowances, it ll not happen in dis country and it doesn't happen anywhere else in d world, I wonder if u guys want to start practising a diff kind of health practise from d world. Anyway we have already started taking over laboratory and radiological medicine it only a matter of years.yeah we can do everythin u guys do. Please my people Hospitals are Open bring ur sick ones

This strike is about better welfare parkages for "people who save lives" and the government should not cloud it with all this position and medical doctor and med lab scientist rivary.

enny09:
so y dont we have health administrators in nigeria, because doctors have push them out of d system for dia selfish intrest and politicized the health sectors, y will i study a course when i knew i have no place to work in nigeria, mind you we have health administrators in nigeria, if only the Doctors will allow them to perform dia duty.

I dnt think there was ever a time we had health administrators in this country, so doctors didn't push anybody out

blessedjosh: Your comments pls. What do you think about the federal medival dotors strike? The bone of contention is that the doctor doesn't necesarily have to be the head if the medical team. And that nurses, pharmcist,lab. Scientist and technicians can also be consultants, chief medical directors, commissioner of health and ministers of health? And should they strike. , shutting hospitals nationwide for these issues? What should the FG do in the circumstance ?

i Believe everyone should treated equally without any discrimination or favourism to any profession, and i know dat we have health administrator that can head d health sectors, if d FGN can do just dis all issues will b resolved.

A doctor sees a patient and orders for an investigation to confirm or rule out a diagnosis, a lab scientist ll now cme and say d doctor didn't send 4 d right investigation(what d hell does he know abt which inv d patient needs, His work is to do d damn test period), or maybe a nurse ll start arguing diagnosis with a doctor( WTF does she know abt making diagnosis, can she defend herself if litigation comes)a pharmacist who shuld stick to producing drugs ll start prescribing drugs 4 a patient. When this happens den our health sector ll be in serious Crisis

Dnaz: All you guys run shifts yet u want call duty allowances, it ll not happen in dis country and it doesn't happen anywhere else in d world, I wonder if u guys want to start practising a diff kind of health practise from d world. Anyway we have already started taking over laboratory and radiological medicine it only a matter of years.yeah we can do everythin u guys do. Please my people Hospitals are Open bring ur sick ones

go back for own detriment

Dnaz:


I dnt think there was ever a time we had health administrators in this country, so doctors didn't push anybody out

please do some research,and date back prio to 1985...jeez!!!

pendusky: this is no joking mata!!! though doctors are working!!!

why won't dey work? Doctors working blindly. Anyway, who no know go know.

on a good day:

please do some research,and date back prio to 1985...jeez!!!

Abeggy there was nothing like dat

Dnaz: All you guys run shifts yet u want call duty allowances, it ll not happen in dis country and it doesn't happen anywhere else in d world, I wonder if u guys want to start practising a diff kind of health practise from d world. Anyway we have already started taking over laboratory and radiological medicine it only a matter of years.yeah we can do everythin u guys do. Please my people Hospitals are Open bring ur sick ones

This is exactly the pictures of what happen in d health sector, d Doctors have no respect for other professional, they know everything instead of allowing everyone to do dia work, they want to head everywhere even what they were not trained to do, they can do everything my friend dat is quackery cos u re not licence to do dat and u can go to jail if u do it, remember u are playing with human lifes and not goats

ay0201: why won't dey work? Doctors working blindly. Anyway, who no know go know.

We are not working blindly, we are working with hematologist, chemical pathologists,medical microbiologists, radiologists, well house officers have been converted to nurses but we can still live with dat and not to 4get d Chemist outside

Dnaz: Isn't it Madness dat a nurse lab technician or pharmacists ll start consulting. So a patients comes to a hospital, he pays consultation fee on seeing d doctor, another consultation fee to d nurse who ll only carry out d doctors instruction, den wen he/she is sent 4 an inv he pays consultation fee to d lab technician or wen he goes to purchase his drugs anoda consultation fee to d pharmacist 4 a drug already prescribed by a doctor. Total MADNESS

let me enlighten you a bit with this scenerio A patient comes into the clinic,where the doctor,the pharmacist,the nurses and the scientist are their to see the patient,the doctor,who are expert in diagnosis,clerks the patient,comes up with the differentila diagnosis,works with(not order) the scientist to come up with the definite diagnosis,the pharmacist,(the drug expert comes in) asseses the apprpriet drug and vet them,the nurse nurses the patient to health,now if anything goes wrong,we definately know who to hold responsible.mr. dr,did u diagnose correctly,mr pharma,was the drug right for the diagnosis,nurse how did u nurse this patient,and pls mr scientist,did you do your work professionally..But when one man diagnosis,prescribe,dispense,assess and discharge,how can one expect a clean job.
Secondly,if a doctor can become a consultant in paeditrics,why can't a pharmacist become a consultant in paediatric drugs,my brother,you must understand that consultation is quite different from clerking a patient, all we are saying is about professionalism in line with expertise.
Please,doctors don't hate others for beginning to understand their rights,and importance.

if the FG accepts this proposal then they will be ready for total collapse of health sector.health workers work like a unit,even the orderly in the hosp. is very important. Doctors do almost all the courses of other health profesional in med. school so dat they can manage hospital .the reason for d strike is useless.very insensitive grp of people .

Dnaz: A doctor sees a patient and orders for an investigation to confirm or rule out a diagnosis, a lab scientist ll now cme and say d doctor didn't send 4 d right investigation(what d hell does he know abt which inv d patient needs, His work is to do d damn test period), or maybe a nurse ll start arguing diagnosis with a doctor( WTF does she know abt making diagnosis, can she defend herself if litigation comes)a pharmacist who shuld stick to producing drugs ll start prescribing drugs 4 a patient. When this happens den our health sector ll be in serious Crisis

so y cant Doctors see dia patient only, and leave administration of the hospital to a health administrator

D_Ben: if the FG accepts this proposal then they will be ready for total collapse of health sector.health workers work like a unit,even the orderly in the hosp. is very important. Doctors do almost all the courses of other health profesional in med. school so dat they can manage hospital .the reason for d strike is useless.very insensitive grp of people .

silence is the best answer to a .......

enny09:
This is exactly the pictures of what happen in d health sector, d Doctors have no respect for other professional, they know everything instead of allowing everyone to do dia work, they want to head everywhere even what they were not trained to do, they can do everything my friend dat is quackery cos u re not licence to do dat and u can go to jail if u do it, remember u are playing with human lifes and not goats

Cut d Crap hematologists, chem pathologists,medical microbiologists, pathologists and radiologists are doctors and dey are licensed to do what d lab technicians and radiographers(camera men) do and in addition to dat diagnose and treat, about d nurses dere is no where it is said dat a doctor can't do d work of a nurse we just opted out so we can make d work less stressful 4 ourselves. Nobody is insulting any profession, its just dat u have chosen to look down on urselves and hence has been consumed with inferiority complex. The Hospital is d Doctors constituency and nobody can take dat from us. Afterall even if u get d money to build a hospital, u can't be d chief medical director, what am I even saying, u won't be licensed to practise unless u get a doctor to be ur MD