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Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by dblackninja: 11:41pm On May 27, 2016 |
AYOBAMEE911:What do you guys wanna use our number for? Money ritual?? |
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by Nobody: 7:30am On May 28, 2016 |
dblackninja:Fair enough but I'd be looking out to catch you redefine culture once again. What do you think is Nigeria's Problem? |
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by dblackninja: 8:47am On May 28, 2016 |
Reyginus:Catch me!? You wish Hmmm! Nigeria has numerous problems..I don't even know where to begin |
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by Nobody: 9:34am On May 28, 2016 |
dblackninja:Okay. What about the black man. Why are we lagging now when it was our race that etched those mystic symbols at Saqarra? |
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by JackBizzle: 10:20am On May 28, 2016 |
Reyginus: Interesting question |
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by RajputMaster24: 3:52pm On May 28, 2016 |
So is there anyway to bring back traditional African religion? There must be some way to increase its popularity. |
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by Nobody: 4:07pm On May 28, 2016 |
RajputMaster24:Of course there's a way but why? Why should we bring it back? |
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by Nobody: 4:08pm On May 28, 2016 |
JackBizzle:Tell me your version. |
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by RajputMaster24: 6:09pm On May 28, 2016 |
Reyginus: Because my friend, its a beautiful religion and an integral part of a beautiful culture, we can't let this culture die after some mere colonization. Look at India, it is able to repair its civilization/culture after colonization. Nigeria should do the same. I think Nigeria must have had a beautiful indigenious culture pre-colonization. |
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by Nobody: 10:34pm On May 30, 2016 |
RajputMaster24:Because it's a Beautiful Religion? How is it a Beautiful Religion? If the elements of our civilization are better than this our beautiful religion, should we still stalk this beautiful religion? |
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by mmadubugwu(m): 5:13am On May 31, 2016 |
RajputMaster24: I like that. There is actually. Godianism (or Godian Religion). Members believe in worshipping God directly without intermediaries. Which means all praises and prayers go to God not through prophets or man. They also uphold cultural values too. Culture and religion are not same, but interlinked in a way. Culture has to do with the way of life of a certain people and traditions they accept. Religion on the other hand deals with man's relationship with God. |
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by dblackninja: 11:06am On Jun 03, 2016 |
Reyginus:Sorry for the late reply bro. Been busy.. coupled with epileptic power supply (Or rather full-time lights-out) Dammn that's a question I cannot give a satisfactory answer to because I don't fully know....but one thing is sure... Our home (Africa) was invaded by hoodlums!! But instead of picking up, we are still dancing to the tune of the masters. Most of the elites among us as well are mimicking the hoodlums.. looting and enslaving us with their will The government, senators, trad. rules, pastors, bishops, babalawos, etc.. all of them enslaving and looting us in their own way Are we going to rise up one day? Yeah surely we gonna rise up--one day though. |
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by Nobody: 2:10pm On Jun 03, 2016 |
dblackninja:Leadership you mean. Failure of Leadership. An example of what the ruling party APC is doing now. You kicked a man out for destroying your home but you go ahead and destroy it further. |
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by dblackninja: 2:38pm On Jun 03, 2016 |
Reyginus:Yeah that's what has been going on. Very very sad |
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by iPopAlomo(m): 8:48am On Jun 04, 2016 |
Eriwo!!! |
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by macof(m): 3:49pm On Jun 07, 2016 |
dblackninja: I don't like to see African Traditional Religion as Religion at all, people call it religion having western ideas in mind in Yoruba only recently did people start saying "esin ibile" - native religion but it's wrong. .. It is Isese or Aborisha - Which is best translated as "Yoruba elements of spirituality" or " veneration of Orisa" there's no yoruba history or culture without the Orishas, you would be deceiving yourself to say you support yoruba culture but hate isese. ..isese is yoruba culture. the yoruba elements in question are the Yoruba language, culture, tradition and history revolving around Spirituality. ..that is why in incantations and chants it is Yoruba language...Yoruba words that are so deep, in festivals reenactments of past events are done. festivals are set in accordance with the traditional calendar system. Everything isese is yoruba culture, language, history, tradition so when next someone says african traditional religion it is really African elements of spirituality which is the culture, language, history and traditions of africa revolving around Spirituality 1 Like |
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by Nobody: 3:53pm On Jun 07, 2016 |
macof:What's the Definition of Religion again, Please? |
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by macof(m): 4:08pm On Jun 07, 2016 |
Reyginus: an institution of dogmas relating to the Divine and before you jump to conclusion without knowing a thing about african elements of spirituality, lemme tell you that religion can be formed out of it but it is not religion in itself 1 Like |
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by Nobody: 4:10pm On Jun 07, 2016 |
macof:Lololol. Does African T.R relate to the divine? |
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by dblackninja: 4:50pm On Jun 07, 2016 |
macof: Hmmm.. What is Orisa exactly? From what you wrote I can deduce that it implies a god since it's venerated. Now how can you unlink the veneration of Orisa from religiosity? |
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by macof(m): 9:30pm On Jun 07, 2016 |
Reyginus: does what you call ATR encompass dogmas like Christianity? |
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by Nobody: 9:36pm On Jun 07, 2016 |
macof:ATR means African Traditional Religion. This implies the local religions practised in Africa before foreign religions came in. So, does it relate to the divine? |
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by macof(m): 9:47pm On Jun 07, 2016 |
dblackninja: an orisa is a being that is created special the word has been used to refer to kings, great personalities, great ancestors, lesser Gods ( those beneath the Creator - Olodumare ) veneration doesn't have to be about religiosity my friend. Spirituality in africa is by Awe, not faith or dogmatic belief that we have in religion 1 Like |
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by macof(m): 10:32pm On Jun 07, 2016 |
Reyginus: The Latin term religio, origin of the lexeme "religion" means "strict obligation to an institution" this is not Isese. ..this doesn't mean that religion cannot be made out of Isese google it if you like. The medieval usage alternates with "order" in designating bonded communities like those of monastic orders : "we hear of the 'religion' of the Golden Fleece, of a knight 'of the religion of Avys'" In the ancient and medieval world, the etymological Latin root religio was understood as an individual virtue of worship, never as doctrine, practice, or actual source of knowledge. The modern concept of "religion" as an abstraction which entails distinct sets of beliefs is a recent invention so don't be arrogant and indulge in willful ignorance when next someone says african traditional religion it is really African elements of spirituality which is the culture, language, history and traditions of africa revolving around Spirituality what would you say to languages that never even had a word for religion like Ewe and Japanese yet they practice spirituality in their native way 1 Like |
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by macof(m): 10:46pm On Jun 07, 2016 |
Max Müller characterized many other cultures around the world, including Egypt, Persia, and India, as having a similar power structure at this point in history. What is called ancient religion today, they would have only called "law". [21] Many languages have words that can be translated as "religion", but they may use them in a very different way, and some have no word for religion at all. For example, the Sanskrit word dharma , sometimes translated as "religion", also means law. Throughout classical South Asia, the study of law consisted of concepts such as penance through piety and ceremonial as well as practical traditions . Medieval Japan at first had a similar union between "imperial law" and universal or "Buddha law", but these later became independent sources of power. [22][23] There is no precise equivalent of "religion" in Hebrew, and Judaism does not distinguish clearly between religious, national, racial, or ethnic identities. [24] One of its central concepts is "halakha", meaning the "walk" or "path" sometimes translated as "law", which guides religious practice and belief and many aspects of daily life. @ Reyginus , @dblackninja |
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by Nobody: 8:01am On Jun 08, 2016 |
macof:What's all these drooling about? My question simply is, is ATR divine? I'm simply using your definition of Religion and not trying to assess another person's version of it. |
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by Nobody: 8:07am On Jun 08, 2016 |
macof:I hope this argument doesn't go like the fruitless one I had with FOLYKAZE last time where he illogically tried to remove Christianity from Spirituality even when it's obvious he doesn't seem to understand the meaning of the terms? My question was/is simply what is divine? Is ATR divine? Is this very hard to understand or answer you are trying to be mischievous like your brother in ATR tried last time? A simple yes or no will do. Go ahead and stop trying to confuse yourself. |
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by macof(m): 8:30am On Jun 08, 2016 |
Reyginus:I know your case is willful ignorance you are the mischievous one here, you only pick a part of the definition and throw the other part out. scroll up and see my definition. ..you can repost if you like and ask your question based on the complete definition given |
Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by Nobody: 8:40am On Jun 08, 2016 |
macof:Is something wrong with your eyes? Lol. These people. You define Religion as an institution of dogmas relating to the Divine and I ask if ATRs relate with the Divine? What's so hard here to answer? |
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