JackBizzle:



Class? By "class" you mean the English class you failed because you couldn't differentiate between "apologize" and "apologies".



Well, you can still claim "Miss Europe". After all, only 4 countries in Europe have English as an official language

For someone whom English is not her Lingual Franca she's doing fine. Now look for a rock around you can have my brain but I will give you my hands instead.

Reyginus:
For someone whom English is not her Lingual Franca she's doing fine. Now look for a rock around you can have my brain but I will give you my hands instead.

You are assuming that I believe her story?

She claimed that she had another moniker that was an acquaintance of mine in the past. I don't have any nairalander female friend that is a non-native speaker of English.

Tufanja:


None of the above. Can we stop talking about my person. You never were interested in who I am, keep it that way. There are more interesting things to talk about.Moreover I want to keep this place welcoming to everyone and about topics everyone can contribute to.

You want to keep this place welcoming? Go back and read 3 pages of you talking nonsense, trolling me and contributing nothing of essence towards a non-christian chatbox.

Your story is incomplete and ridiculous. That is why I keep asking questions. You sound too fake. Something aint right

Reyginus:
I think it's just a chatbox.

Why do you lie so much?

Even the title says "non-christian chatbox"!

I've told you to stop being silly.


I've tried. Even though I am an atheist, I think you need to go to the nearest deep spiritual church so that they can flog the lies out of you. Jesus! You can lie and be so biased. Gaddem.

Ishilove:

You have blonde hair?

The first blonde haired woman I fell in love with was Olga of Abba

gimme gimme gimme a man

After midnight!

Old cargo. When I first knew that song, I couldn't even spell the word "blonde". Either you are old (at least 30) or you are lying.

At your age, you are still like this?

sonOfLucifer:

my belle o.

You know how I drop them memes.....as e dey hot!!!

can anyone help me out? I want to know the similarities between the IFA and the BIBLE?

sinto5:
can anyone help me out? I want to know the similarities between the IFA and the BIBLE?

***summoning Folykaze***

Chai!!!

Just look at the wickedness that comes out of a christian's mouth when she hears that someone is an atheist

analice107:
The FOOL, just confirmed again the prophecies of Jesus Christ. because iniquity shall increase, many shall be offended and shall fall away from the faith. They shall become lovers of themselves and haters of God.

And will visit the iniquities of those who hate me, on their third to their fourth generation.
O Lord, this fool doesn't know what he has just done to his children four hundred years down the line. I pray a car hits you down tomorrow so that you can die without raising any children to inherit your sins.

analice107:

No dear. Am not pure evil, and my heart is not dark. You don't understand what this op has just dome to his generations unborn. Look dear, the word of God is true.
What he has just done confirms the very word of God. But a grave consequence awaits him and his generations to come.
Am not of the devil, rather you are. because Satan won't let you see what awaits you for denying God and worshipping him. The prayer I prayed is indeed a very good prayer. It will save so many children and grandchildren, who will never know the wickedness of this man, but will inherit his woes.
If he drops dead, they will be saved. But it's just a prayer, It will depend on God to hear or not.

Note that this is one of Ishitlove's troll buddies.

sonOfLucifer:

And the second?

The second kinda reminded me of Wonder Woman

JackBizzle:





Old cargo. When I first knew that song, I couldn't even spell the word "blonde". Either you are old (at least 30) or you are lying.

At your age, you are still like this?

If 30 is 'old' then it is no wonder you behave like a pre-teen

JackBizzle:


Why do you lie so much?

Even the title says "non-christian chatbox"!

I've told you to stop being silly.


I've tried. Even though I am an atheist, I think you need to go to the nearest deep spiritual church so that they can flog the lies out of you. Jesus! You can lie and be so biased. Gaddem.

Lol. So is there a barrier to what should be discussed here? If No, the tag is not important.

JackBizzle:



***summoning Folykaze***

Thanks for summoning me here.

@ sinto5, Ifa and bible is a compilation of ancient spiritual thoughts and esoteric knowledge. However, bible contain history, philosophy and spiritual sense of the jew while Ifa is a divination system of the Yoruba people. The only similarity is that they are both spiritual compilations.

There are much differences between Ifa and bible than similarities.

Ifa philosophy is conveyed in Oral form while the bible is penned down.

Ifa is a spiritual system while the bible is an alterated religious compilation.

Ifa predate existence and have prints in nature while bible is a document dating back to some thousand years.

Ifa has no author. (asedaye la bala owo). Bible was written down by some few men.

Ifa encompass monotheism, polytheism, pantheism, henotheism and atheism while bible is strictly a monotheistic document of christian.

Ifa is practical, involve observation, examination and preservation of nature while bible is centred on faith without proof.

Ifa does not lie, bible contain lots of historical, scientifical jagoons.

The relatives of Ifa are Iching, Fa, Geomancy and Il-ram (science of the sand). The jew version of Ifa is kabbalar. What is important among this is uniformity. Bible has KJV, coptic, catholic and greek orthodox. There is no uniformity among these versions.


There are more differences but I will leave that for now.

Ifa encourage one to grow spiritually and acquire spiritual enlightenment while bible promote fantasy like salvation.

Fear is conquered in Ifa. Bible inprison one with fear of hell.

Bible have more similarity with vedas and gita or quran. These are written document that promote religion doctrine. Ifa just like Kaballar and Iching encourage spiritual growth and self enlightenment.

JackBizzle:



You know how I drop them memes.....as e dey hot!!!

logicboy?

FOLYKAZE:


logicboy?

FOLYKAZE:


Thanks for summoning me here.

@ sinto5, Ifa and bible is a compilation of ancient spiritual thoughts and esoteric knowledge. However, bible contain history, philosophy and spiritual sense of the jew while Ifa is a divination system of the Yoruba people. The only similarity is that they are both spiritual compilations.

There are much differences between Ifa and bible than similarities.

Ifa philosophy is conveyed in Oral form while the bible is penned down.

Ifa is a spiritual system while the bible is an alterated religious compilation.

Ifa predate existence and have prints in nature while bible is a document dating back to some thousand years.

Ifa has no author. (asedaye la bala owo). Bible was written down by some few men.

Ifa encompass monotheism, polytheism, pantheism, henotheism and atheism while bible is strictly a monotheistic document of christian.

Ifa is practical, involve observation, examination and preservation of nature while bible is centred on faith without proof.

Ifa does not lie, bible contain lots of historical, scientifical jagoons.

The relatives of Ifa are Iching, Fa, Geomancy and Il-ram (science of the sand). The jew version of Ifa is kabbalar. What is important among this is uniformity. Bible has KJV, coptic, catholic and greek orthodox. There is no uniformity among these versions.


There are more differences but I will leave that for now.

Ifa encourage one to grow spiritually and acquire spiritual enlightenment while bible promote fantasy like salvation.

Fear is conquered in Ifa. Bible inprison one with fear of hell.

Bible have more similarity with vedas and vita or quran. These are written document that promote religion doctrine. Ifa just like Kaballar and Iching encourage spiritual growth and self enlightenment.

IFA does not lie but the Bible contains scientific jagons? Ifa promotes spirituality and the bible doesn't? Are you sure about these things?

IFA is a spiritual system but the bible is an altered manuscript? Are you sure about this? IFA predates existence and the bible doesn't?

Let's start from these three. Why should I agree to any of these things?

Reyginus:
Lol. So is there a barrier to what should be discussed here? If No, the tag is not important.

Let's end this discussion. Your lie was a non-starter

Ishilove:

If 30 is 'old' then it is no wonder you behave like a pre-teen

Karashika. Sandamura.


No wonder you go around looking for rich guys on nairaland. Biological clock dey tick.

FOLYKAZE:


logicboy?

The one and only dark knight

Ishilove:

The second kinda reminded me of Wonder Woman

Wonder woman is a brunette or black haired. I don't think I have ever seen a blonde wonder woman.


Well except you are talking about the 1975 one.

All the movies and comics since the 80s are brunettes or black haired.


You are a real old cargo. Jesus!

Reyginus:


.

Rey my good friend. Longest time. . . . How you dey na?

Reyginus:

IFA does not lie but the Bible contains scientific jagons? Ifa promotes spirituality and the bible doesn't? Are you sure about these things?

I am very sure sire!

Alot of traditional medicines have been discovered with the help of Ifa. The knowledge of how to use herbs, leave and animal parts for the purpose of safeguarding our health in a medical way is promoted by Ifa.

On the other round, bible discourage one from using medicine and look up to one sky daddy. Luke was a physician but the gospels speak ill of medicines.

That is medical science.

Ifa does not rely on miracle. Bible does and we know miracles are fantasies.

How did water turn to wine by mere words? How does the cripple walk by mere prayer? How does a blind see by mere faith? How does dead rise up by mere exaltation of God? These are illogical and opposing to natural law.

No miracle in Ifa. If you have a problem, Ifa root out the problem, analyze it and provide method through which these problems can be solved.

It is a known everywhere that ancient and traditional medicine is potent. Modern science indeed authenticated this medicine and approved uses of it. Yoruba got theirs with the help of Ifa, how many medicines have been developed with the help of bible?

I was reading the bible sometimes ago where I found method of curing/cleansing leprosy. That is the greatest fantasy I have ever read.

Ifa authenticate that the earth is spherical and it is moving round the sun (obiri laye). The bible and church told us earth is flat with pillars. And that the star will fall into a smaller earth. If this is not jargon, I dont know what else it is.

Reyginus:

IFA is a spiritual system but the bible is an altered manuscript? Are you sure about this? IFA predates existence and the bible doesn't?

The bible is seriously altered. The coptic bible, greek orthodox and catholic bible is different entirely with numbers of books and documentations. Where is the book of enouch, gospel of judas among others today? We all know the bible is heavily manipulated. This cannot be said with Ifa and it 256 corpus.

Moses initiated the writings of what we know today as bible. Moses lived some thousands years ago. He had the revelation and wrote what he saw. Prior to this, there is nothing like bible. However, Ifa has been here long before existence. It has no author.

Reyginus:

Let's start from these three. Why should I agree to any of these things?

Now you know and should agree.

sonOfLucifer:

And the second?

Bro, pls keep asking her questions.

#Expose

JackBizzle:



Let's end this discussion. Your lie was a non-starter

Lol. You are logician indeed.

FOLYKAZE:


Rey my good friend. Longest time. . . . How you dey na?



I am very sure sire!

Alot of traditional medicines have been discovered with the help of Ifa. The knowledge of how to use herbs, leave and animal parts for the purpose of safeguarding our health in a medical way is promoted by Ifa.

On the other round, bible discourage one from using medicine and look up to one sky daddy. Luke was a physician but the gospels speak ill of medicines.

That is medical science.

Ifa does not rely on miracle. Bible does and we know miracles are fantasies.

How did water turn to wine by mere words? How does the cripple walk by mere prayer? How does a blind see by mere faith? How does dead rise up by mere exaltation of God? These are illogical and opposing to natural law.

No miracle in Ifa. If you have a problem, Ifa root out the problem, analyze it and provide method through which these problems can be solved.

It is a known everywhere that ancient and traditional medicine is potent. Modern science indeed authenticated this medicine and approved uses of it. Yoruba got theirs with the help of Ifa, how many medicines have been developed with the help of bible?

I was reading the bible sometimes ago where I found method of curing/cleansing leprosy. That is the greatest fantasy I have ever read.

Ifa authenticate that the earth is spherical and it is moving round the sun (obiri laye). The bible and church told us earth is flat with pillars. And that the star will fall into a smaller earth. If this is not jargon, I dont know what else it is.




The bible is seriously altered. The coptic bible, greek orthodox and catholic bible is different entirely with numbers of books and documentations. Where is the book of enouch, gospel of judas among others today? We all know the bible is heavily manipulated. This cannot be said with Ifa and it 256 corpus.

Moses initiated the writings of what we know today as bible. Moses lived some thousands years ago. He had the revelation and wrote what he saw. Prior to this, there is nothing like bible. However, Ifa has been here long before existence. It has no author.



Now you know and should agree.

Really long time. But then you didn't say how Christianity doesn't talk about Spirituality in contrast to IFA

Reyginus:
Really long time. But then you didn't say how Christianity doesn't talk about Spirituality in contrast to IFA

there is nothing like spirituality (in it original form) in christianity. All we have is church tradition and religioun doctrine make-up by church leaders.

Therefore I dont need to disturb myself with religion docrtines veiling as spirituality.

JackBizzle:



The one and only dark knight

Seun jazz work on you I swear.

What is it that draws you back to nairaland?

FOLYKAZE:


there is nothing like spirituality (in it original form) in christianity. All we have is church tradition and religioun doctrine make-up by church leaders.

Therefore I dont need to disturb myself with religion docrtines veiling as spirituality.

Lol. Come on! What then do you define as Spirituality if trying to fine tune one's spirit with that of a supreme spirit is not?

Reyginus:
Lol. Come on! What then do you define as Spirituality if trying to fine tune one's spirit with that of a supreme spirit is not?

Spirituality has been bastardized and distorted by the church. Lot of people confuse spiritualism with religion.

There are some definitions that can help here.

WHAT IS SPIRITUALITY?


Spirituality is the search for the sacred, for that which is set apart from the ordinary and worthy of veneration, "a transcendent dimension within human experience...discovered in moments in which the individual questions the meaning of personal existence and attempts to place the self within a broader ontological context."

• is an internal process of seeking personal authenticity, genuineness, and wholeness as an aspect of identity development;

• is the process of continually transcending one's current locus of centricity;

• is the development of a greater connectedness to self and others through relationships and union with community;

• is the process of deriving meaning, purpose, and direction in one's life; and

• involves an increasing openness to exploring a relationship with an intangible and pervasive power or essence or center of value that exists beyond human existence and rational human knowing.

Conclusively, spirituality is considered a more personal quality, and is sometimes described as a feeling of connection with everything. Spiritual people are generally open to just about anything as long as it gives them the emotional lift they are looking for, and it tends to be thought of as internal and personal, a 'to each his own' affair. It deals with universal questions of origin, purpose, ethical behavior and destiny. The answers to these questions may take us into other areas of thought, such as science or philosophy or religion. But the questions about what it means to be human — why we are here, how we should act toward self and other, what will eventually become of us and the universe.

christianity has nothing to do with spiritualism. Christianity is all about faith,praying, evangelism and salvation. Tithting, prayer, abluction and other religion rites are not in existence with spiritualists.

In Fela world, To be spiritual is not by praying and going to church. Spiritualism is the understanding of the universe so that it can be a better place to live in.

An Ifa priest study and understand the force of the nature he lives in. An Ifa priest explore the mystery in nature taking cue from natural substances like river, mountain, tress, metals, fire, lightening, people, animals. These effort are adopted for spiritual development and betterment of his/her life. A pastor in the church is all about garnering tithe and praying for heaven that will never come.

In wiki:

Nevertheless, on significant points Christian Protestantism and spiritualism are different. Spiritualists do not believe that the works or faith of a mortal during a brief lifetime can serve as a basis for assigning a soul to an eternity of Heaven or Hell; they view the afterlife as containing hierarchical "spheres," through which each spirit can progress.
Spiritualists differ from Protestant Christians in that the Judeo-Christian Bible is not the primary source from which they derive knowledge of God and the afterlife: for them, their personal contacts with spirits provide that.

That one difference rule christianity out of what we know as spiritualism.

FOLYKAZE:


Seun jazz work on you I swear.

What is it that draws you back to nairaland?

Money and sex.


Made 50k on one project


Met one coded babe here. Slim, and butter and calm.


Unlike the fat, agbero-ish and Aje pako ishitlove

FOLYKAZE:


Spirituality has been bastardized and distorted by the church. Lot of people confuse spiritualism with religion.

There are some definitions that can help here.



christianity has nothing to do with spiritualism. Christianity is all about praying, evangelism and salvation. Tithting, prayer, abluction and other religion rites are not in existence with spiritualists.

In Fela world, To be spiritual is not by praying and going to church. Spiritualism is the understanding of the universe so that it can be a better place to live in.

An Ifa priest study and understand the force of the nature he lives in. A pastor in the church is all about garnering tithe and praying for heaven that will never come.

In wiki:



That one difference rule christianity out of what we know as spiritualism.

I think you are properly looking at your words. I mean reading every single word and as a whole. This is your definition:

' Spirituality is the search for the sacred, for that
which is set apart from the ordinary and worthy
of veneration, "a transcendent dimension within
human experience...discovered in moments in
which the individual questions the meaning of
personal existence and attempts to place the
self within a broader ontological context'.

Let's begin from the first claim. The search for the sacred. This simply implies the search for that which is true, the venerated, the divine, the holy. Christians believe that God is the Truth, he's also Divine and is holy. Do you agree to this if you don't tell me why?

JackBizzle:



Money and sex.


Made 50k on one project


Met one coded babe here. Slim, and butter and calm.


Unlike the fat, agbero-ish and Aje pako ishitlove

Hmmm. See life o. Okay o.

Reyginus:
I think you are properly looking at your words. I mean reading every single word and as a whole. This is your definition:

' Spirituality is the search for the sacred, for that
which is set apart from the ordinary and worthy
of veneration, "a transcendent dimension within
human experience...discovered in moments in
which the individual questions the meaning of
personal existence and attempts to place the
self within a broader ontological context'.

Let's begin from the first claim. The search for the sacred. This simply implies the search for that which is true, the venerated, the divine, the holy. Christians believe that God is the Truth, he's also Divine and is holy. Do you agree to this if you don't tell me why?

Sacred has nothing to do with truth. Something that is sacred is simply worthy of awe, respect and veneration and holy.

Veneration of natural entities and bodies is idolatory in christianity.

Nope?