MostHigh:

Ok Sire.

Maybe we can try this way, Since we all agree the word is the holy spirit then maybe we should use the revealed sevenfold manifestation of the Godlike charachter of the son of God in Issah 11 to describe his spirit


The Spirit of the LORD will rest on him-- the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding, the Spirit of counsel and of might, the Spirit of the knowledge and fear of the LORD

Those of the elect should pray daily for all 7 qualities of the celestial as revealed in scripture to abide in thier bodily temples.

as it is written, Let your prayers come up to me as inscence.


And there you have it a detailed biblical description of the CelestiaL being as you put it

obadiah777: a grenade ? care to expand sire Top of the morning to you

E<R>F:


Why are you fumbling na..

That round thing, that they open and throw far far away and it will make "kpuf kpuf, kpozaaa" and people will die ...

You know its good for the ww3, i'm planning to have a flat full of them.... Yhu know naa, incase of necessity.. Hu knows ww3 can start 2mao

obadiah777: thats quite deep sire. i will try to digest it and comment on it as soon as I come back in a couple of hours. Top of the morning sire

[b]ok back for a few minutes. now what you said is very deep and makes a lot of sense sire. however this is the ULTIMATE POINT i have been trying to make about the topic of the 'divine nature'. this is a religious mindset that is interested in a question like that. its the type of question you would expect an atheist or someone in the christian religion church to ask. its the type of question whom someone who is trying to dissect the nature and character of christ would ask. in this truth we dont deal with topics like that. we know who the lord is and his powers. we dont try to go into his nature. thats like the creature trying to dissect the nature of the creator. this is a caucasian mindset which has seeped into religion. i deal in scriptures strictly. i dont try to understand or inquire about the divine nature of God. i know his powers, have seen prophesies come to past. thats enough for me. so the point is, this is religious question. we dont do religion here. we match scriptures to real life. reality.[/b]

obadiah777: thats quite deep sire. i will try to digest it and comment on it as soon as I come back in a couple of hours. Top of the morning sire

[b]ok back for a few minutes. now what you said is very deep and makes a lot of sense sire. however this is the ULTIMATE POINT i have been trying to make about the topic of the 'divine nature'. this is a religious mindset that is interested in a question like that. its the type of question you would expect an atheist or someone in the christian religion church to ask. its the type of question whom someone who is trying to dissect the nature and character of christ would ask. in this truth we dont deal with topics like that. we know who the lord is and his powers. we dont try to go into his nature. thats like the creature trying to dissect the nature of the creator. this is a caucasian mindset which has seeped into religion. i deal in scriptures strictly. i dont try to understand or inquire about the divine nature of God. i know his powers, have seen prophesies come to past. thats enough for me. so the point is, this is religious question. we dont do religion here. we match scriptures to real life. reality.[/b]

Ajibam: [b]Jesus is not an Archangel

Jude 1:9 (NIV) But even the archangel
Michael, when he was disputing with the devil
about the body of Moses, did not dare to bring
a slanderous accusation against him, but said,
“The Lord rebuke you!”


2 Pet 2:11 (NIV) ...yet even angels, although
they are stronger and more powerful, do not
bring slanderous accusations against such
beings in the presence of the Lord.
Michael an angel, did the work of angels as
outlined in 2 Peter, as he did not bring a slanderous
accusation against the devil.
Jude does not identify the archangel Michael, as
Christ.
From Dictionary, . "archaggelos, ar-
khang'-el-os; a chief angel:— archangel."
Archangel means a chief angel. Michael therefore is
a chief angel. Jesus is not a chief angel, or a created
being, but Commander over the angels. He is Lord of Lords and King of Kings.

Michael said to the devil, "the Lord rebuke you."
Michael as archangel (chief angel) a created being,
does not have authority to rebuke the devil in
disputing over the body of Moses, so he invokes the
Lord's name.[/b]

MostHigh:

By every standard Yashua is a messenge/Angel

Arch Angel simply put means chief messenge/ angel

So yes yashua is an archangel

You people just love complexity and unnecessary arguments.

Read the words with thier true meanings and not some vain imagination.

MostHigh:

Scoffer

Ajibam: @obadiah..

(Rev 12:7 NIV) "And there was war in
heaven. Michael and his angels fought against
the dragon, and the dragon and his angels
fought back."
Michael, the chief angel, led the loyal angels to
battle against the devil and his angels and was
victorious. John does not identify Michael as Christ!

1. John recognise Christ..why can't he wrote Christ...
Michael is always leading the angels,,he is the
archangel,,,
2. "If no angel can rule the world (Hebrews 2:5)—and if
Scripture clearly says that Christ is ruler of the world
(Luke 1:32-33; Revelation 19:16)
Then doesn't this
mean that Christ cannot be the archangel Michael?"

E<R>F:


Why are you fumbling na..

That round thing, that they open and throw far far away and it will make "kpuf kpuf, kpozaaa" and people will die ...

You know its good for the ww3, i'm planning to have a flat full of them.... Yhu know naa, incase of necessity.. Hu knows ww3 can start 2mao

Ajibam: @mosthigh


1 Thess 4:16 (NIV) For the Lord himself will
come down from heaven, with a loud
command, with the voice of the archangel and
with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in
Christ will rise first.

Jesus comes "with" the voice of the archangel.
Doesn't this prove that Jesus is Michael? No. The fact
is all the angels accompany Jesus at his Second
Coming, which would include Michael the archangel.
Thus Michael's voice will be heard, along with the
trumpet call of the Lord. The Lord will have the voice
of the archangel which will give an archangelic shout
that will raise the dead.!!!!!

Ishilove:
Lwkmd!!!

E<R>F:


If i hear... Me and yhu and yhur false prophet who be scoffer?

MostHigh:

So you say it michael that sits on a white horse in the book of revelations?

“And I saw Heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and He that sat upon him was called Faithful and True,
and in righteousness He does judge and make war. His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on His
head were many crowns; and He had a name written, that no man knew, but He
Himself.

And He was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and His name
is called The Word of God. And the armies which were in Heaven
followed Him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
And out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it He should smite the nations:
and He shall rule them with a rod of iron: and He treads the winepress of the fierceness and
wrath of Almighty God. And He has on His vesture and on His thigh a name written,
KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.”
Revelation 19:11-16.


you got jokes man.

TinyPurpleBaby:

Enoch 22 1-14

MostHigh:

TPB can you tell me the moral/point here that you are trying to make.

obadiah777: i am neither igbo or yoruba. when i was created initially, i was created to be Yehudah, or Judah to the unenlightened.

TinyPurpleBaby:

Lol. You guys talk about reincarnation but this talks about an actual hell.
The website i got this from says spirits do not go back to the father when their time is up, it goes to the place described by enoch.
So what i am trying to say is could you expantiate these verses for me? Maybe i amm missing the point.

Jamji:
internet god lol

MostHigh:

someone from that website must have been to hell and back then for thier interpretation to be factual.

But seriously though from our genesis class you can remember that the word "earth" means somthing allegorically as well.

Try and use that and read 1-14 again

MostHigh:

So you say it michael that sits on a white horse in the book of revelations?

“And I saw Heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and He that sat upon him was called Faithful and True,
and in righteousness He does judge and make war. His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on His
head were many crowns; and He had a name written, that no man knew, but He
Himself:.

And He was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and His name
is called The Word of God. And the armies which were in Heaven
followed Him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
And out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it He should smite the nations:
and He shall rule them with a rod of iron: and He treads the winepress of the fierceness and
wrath of Almighty God. And He has on His vesture and on His thigh a name written,
KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.”
Revelation 19:11-16.


you got jokes man.

obadiah777: The war in syria is quite peculiarly positioned when both of its components are juxtaposed. what are its components ? this imminent war has both a spiritual and a physical component to it. these components are inter-dependent on each other. to the non spiritual it is a uni-component war but to the spiritual it is dual-componented.

PHYSICAL COMPONENT: [b]People dont know what this war is really about. they think this is about syria and chemical weapons. america NEEDS this war. without this war america as a country is finished. this war is about the american dollar as the reserve currency for oil transactions. if it is removed as the reserve currency for oil transactions america will crumble because the dollar is not backed by anything. it is only backed by being used as a foreign reserve for oil transactions. this is why saddam and ghaddafi were destroyed. they tried rejecting the dollar for oil trades. well guess who is rejecting the dollar now ? IRAN. so to get to IRAN they have to get syria out of the way because both countries are joined at the hip. they are both allies. syria is the backdoor to iran. THIS WAR IS NEEDED, AND WILL BE FOUGHT OR ELSE AMERICA AS A COUNTRY WILL DECLINE INTO ANARCHY AND POVERTY IF THEY LET IRAN CONTINUE TO LEAD A GROUP OF NATIONS AWAY FROM THE DOLLAR. IRANS ACTION IS MAKING OTHER NATIONS BRAVE AND THEY CANT HAVE THAT. SO THIS WAR WILL TAKE PLACE OR AMERICA IS FINISHED. if the world rejects the dollar for oil trade then america cant keep printing money out of thin air to give to these nations in return for goods so that these nations can use the dollars to purchase oil from OPEC nations. this is how america stays rich in debt. this is how they have been able to accrue 17 trillion in debts. by printing paper money and in return getting all these goods for it. so basically they are balling off other peoples money and goods. Iran wants to put a stop to this. so they are in a catch 22 situation. damned if i do and damned if i dont. so they HAVE TO FIGHT THIS WAR OR AMERICA IS FINISHED AND YET THIS WAR MAY ALSO FINISH THEM. SO THEY CAN EITHER TUCK THEIR TAILS BETWEEN THEIR LEGS AND DIE INTERNALLY WHEN NATIONS START TAKING THEIR CUE FROM IRAN AND START REJECTING THE DOLLAR ALSO SEEING AS NOTHING HAPPENED TO IRAN WHEN THEY REJECTED IT- OR THEY CAN GO OUT FIGHTING AND BLAZING. OF COURSE AMERICA WILL GO OUT BLAZING AND FIGHTING. ITS BIBLICAL PROPHESY.now thats the physical component to the war.
[/b]


SPIRITUAL COMPONENT: The spiritual component to the war is that the lord is using this war so that all the strong nations of the earth will nuke each other out of existence. every major city in the world would be nuked out of existence. all the world powers will nuke each other out of existence to clear the air for the kingdom on earth. and after all weaponry is nuked out of existence their will be no more weapons made and nations will not fight wars anymore. this is the war to end all wars. the earth will be cleansed with fire.

REVELATION 11 VS 18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth. <<< notice how when the nations are angry ( meaning they are at war ww3 )the lords wrath is come ?. the point being wars on earth are the lords wrath. wars are mass judgement on people. so wars have a physical and a spiritual component to them. on the physical level it seems like something else but the spiritual realm is the real reason for the war. its judgement. the lord backed america into a position economically where they need to fight this war. so both the spiritual and physical are linked. one is war to stay afloat economically and maintain world dominance while the other is war for judgement.

MostHigh:

TPB can you tell me the moral/point here that you are trying to make.

Ajibam:
You are confuse,.that's why you are lieing against me that am calling the one that sat on the horse michael..

John clearly describe him as jesus


11 Then I saw heaven opened, and a white horse was standing there. Its rider was named Faithful and True, for he judges fairly and wages a righteous war.
12 His eyes were like flames of fire, and on his head were many crowns. A name was written on him that no one understood except himself. 13 He wore a robe dipped in blood, and his title was the Word of God.
14. The armies of heaven, dressed in the finest of pure white linen, followed him on white horses.
15 From his mouth came a sharp sword to strike down the nations. He will rule them with an iron rod. He will release the fierce wrath of God, the Almighty, like juice flowing from a winepress.
16 On his robe at his thigh was written this title: King of all kings and Lord of all lords.

Revelation12vs7

MICHAEL AND HIS ANGELS FOUGHT AGAINST THE DRAGON...
John recognise christ He would have said And jesus fought,,,

TinyPurpleBaby:

Disappear with. Those links i sent you sha..
.

Top of the morning to you Obadiah

obadiah777: Good morning Tgirl. oh yeah Jesus is arch-angel Micheal. check jude vs 9 and daniel 12 vs 1. if you need those verses broken down after reading and you dont get it let me know