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Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by texanomaly(f): 4:27pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
obadiah777: the truth is universal. truth is not in the eye of the beholder. thats a wrong statementNope...you are wrong... In religion and politics 'truth' is relative. This thread and every other where people debate over these subjects proves it. Everyone has a different interpretation of their 'truth". Some even have convincing answers as to why theirs is the real truth. YOUR 'truth' is not everyone's truth. 1 Like |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Nobody: 4:29pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
obadiah777: where did i get the lion of judah from ? Pastor Olu T: |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Nobody: 4:30pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
texanomaly:truth is universal. truth is not relative. people err but the truth remains the same. you do err |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Nobody: 4:46pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
let me confound the gainsayers by putting the icing on the cake. what does the name Micheal mean ? Michael /ˈmaɪkəl/, also occasionally Micheal, is a masculine given name that comes from the Hebrew: מִיכָאֵל / מיכאל (Mīkhā'ēl, pronounced [miχaˈʔel]), derived from the question מי כאל mī kā'ēl) meaning "Who is like God" so Micheal means 'who is like God'. and what does the word angel mean ? it means messenger. so Arch-angel Micheal means ' messenger who is like God'. who is that ? Christ 4 Likes |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Nobody: 4:49pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
and to further shut this whole argument down. Arch-angel Micheal is a man of war. and how about christ ? exodus 15 vs 3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name. CASE CLOSED. OK EVERYONE LETS PACK UP AND LEAVE THE THREAD. CASE CLOSED |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by texanomaly(f): 4:55pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
obadiah777: truth is universal. truth is not relative. people err but the truth remains the same. you do errWhat makes you think your OPINiON is truth? That's all it is. Opinion and theory. For every one of your points, someone has given a reply to the contrary, just as convincing. Of course they are wrong, and you are right. This is why I love the Christian and non-Christian threads so much. Everyone has such strong beliefs. There is nothing wrong with that. I have my own. Mine are the right (truth) ones, btw. My point is that YOUR truth is just that, your truth. My truth differs. I'm right, and in your world (wherever that may be) you are. Universal truth...for all intents and purposes, does not exist, except in our minds. Mine is still right. 2 Likes |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Joagbaje(m): 4:57pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
obadiah777: where did i get the lion of judah from ? My point is that the passage you manipulated in revelation didn't say lion of Judah . You added it. Why? The devil is also likened to a roaring lion. Hope you got my point. BUT LETS DIGRESS. YES HE IS GREATER THAN ANGELS. HE IS AN ARCH-ANGEL. An archangel is still an angel . Micheal is not the only arch angel, Gabriel is also one and many others. So Jesus is not an angel. HE IS THE LEADER OF THE ANGELS. WHICH ANGELS ? THE 144,000 MEN OF ISRAEL AKA THE SEVEN STARS >>>> The 144,000 are not angels but rather the remnant jews from tribulation.
Micheal didn't call himself lord. He rebuked the devil in the name of God of heaven . Because satan was higher than him. He needed a higher name. 7 Likes |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by texanomaly(f): 4:58pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
obadiah777: and to further shut this whole argument down. Arch-angel Micheal is a man of war. and how about christ ?Bahahahaha You gotta love this guy! |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Nobody: 5:06pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
texanomaly:AHHH BUT YOU DO ERR. the truth stands alone and can be backed up, as i have done. the truth never waivers. scripture says prove all things. i do that all the time. peoples opinions are just that. opinions. but the truth is universal. prove all things 1 Like |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Nobody: 5:09pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
obadiah777: of course this is for the spiritually discerned. the direct calling of Jesus an angel is in the book of revelation, for those who say christ is not an angel Obadiah am surprised at your post comparing jesus to michael..BTW when a shout is LIKE(take note of the word) that of a roaring lion does mean it is the lion of judah roaring..angels and archangels are still a little below man because they still do man's biddings..for example gabriel is also an archangel and still runs erands for God and man..so why believe that was jesus? To me the quoted verse may refer to gabriel because he is a messenger between God and man..other mighty archangels are uriel and raphael..this is not jesus. |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by texanomaly(f): 5:10pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
obadiah777: AHHH BUT YOU DO ERR. the truth stands alone and can be backed up, as i have done. the truth never waivers. scripture says prove all things. i do that all the time. peoples opinions are just that. opinions. but the truth is universal. prove all things*rolls eyes* Okay, you win *as if* I'm still right, you are wrong. . |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Nobody: 5:12pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
Joagbaje:i am of the impression that you dont know what angel means but oga Jo, thats why i am here. i intend to pull people out of the abyss of darkness and into the brightness of the light an·gel [eyn-juhl] Show IPA noun 1. a messenger, especially of God. <<< an angel is a messenger. the 144,000, what is their message ? to unify the gentiles to the jews under the law see, right of the top, your premise is wrong because you didnt know the meaning of that word 'angel'. i suspect you are caught up in greco-roman fantasy and mythology of romanticizing biblical words 1 Like |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Nobody: 5:14pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
texanomaly:i do what i do for the peoples |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Nobody: 5:15pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
joel lala:read the whole thread. the case has been proved. all you gotta do now is hear or forbear sire |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Nobody: 5:16pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
texanomaly:this is bigger than who is right or who is wrong. this here thang is about the truth ruth |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Debeloved87(m): 5:22pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
Obadiah777 u do err in this matter, any angel can roar like a lion especially the magnificiently built Arch-ones, dnt forget the scripture that says 1peter 5:8 be sober, be vigilante for your adversary,the DEVIL as a ROARING LION, walketh about looking for whom to devour..people that have seen beyond the veils that covers earth can tell you vividly that JESUS is different from angel michael who has a striking resemblance with angel gabriel, only just that he has a hard and a "soldieric" countenance...Michael is an archangel, JESUS is the King of Glory and the LORD of War.. 1 Like |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Nobody: 5:29pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
Debeloved87: Obadiah777 u do err in this matter, any angel can roar like a lion especially the magnificiently built Arch-ones, dnt forget the scripture that says 1peter 5:8 be sober, be vigilante for your adversary,the DEVIL as a ROARING LION, walketh about looking for whom to devour..people that have seen beyond the veils that covers earth can tell you vividly that JESUS is different from angel michael who has a striking resemblance with angel gabriel, only just that he has a hard and a "soldieric" countenance...Michael is an archangel, JESUS is the King of Glory and the LORD of War..The case has been proved Chief. read the thread all the way through. if you are not convinced then it wasnt meant for you to get that knowledge. |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Nobody: 5:31pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
Debeloved87: Obadiah777 u do err in this matter, any angel can roar like a lion especially the magnificiently built Arch-ones, dnt forget the scripture that says 1peter 5:8 be sober, be vigilante for your adversary,the DEVIL as a ROARING LION, walketh about looking for whom to devour..people that have seen beyond the veils that covers earth can tell you vividly that JESUS is different from angel michael who has a striking resemblance with angel gabriel, only just that he has a hard and a "soldieric" countenance...Michael is an archangel, JESUS is the King of Glory and the LORD of War.. i tire for obadiah o! There are different archangels that their voices are like a roaring lion doesnt make them the lion of judah.. |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Debeloved87(m): 5:32pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
obadiah777: The case has been proved Chief. read the thread all the way through. if you are not convinced then it wasnt meant for you to get that knowledge.with ur posts nothing has been proove...i read the thread, am glad u contributed, but JESUS IS NEVER MICHAEL 2 Likes |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Nobody: 5:36pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
obadiah777: The case has been proved Chief. read the thread all the way through. if you are not convinced then it wasnt meant for you to get that knowledge. |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Nobody: 5:39pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
joel lala:that notwithstanding, the case has been proven Chief. but with regards to the lion roar of Revelation chapter 10, its because you dont understand the book of Revelation is why you hold your position. the book of Revelation is chronologically sequenced. the lion roaring in chapter 10 is Christ but then again i have to assume you dont know much about the book of Revelation. |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Nobody: 5:41pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
Debeloved87: with ur posts nothing has been proove...i read the thread, am glad u contributed, but JESUS IS NEVER MICHAELwell i guess you fall into this category >>>> isaiah 6 vs 9 And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not. <<< this you right here Debeloved87. 1 Like |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Nobody: 5:50pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
Obadiah, i think you need to need to step up your bible understanding. And hilariously, i believe many would aptly agree with me that the quote above me best suits you. Epic! 1 Like |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Nobody: 5:52pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
obadiah777: The case has been proved Chief. read the thread all the way through. if you are not convinced then it wasnt meant for you to get that knowledge. Bros you havent proved anything..and comparing micheal to be jesus using the part of war is also a falacy..in psalms 24 vs 8, it described God as mighty in battle ..so will you also say michael is God because of this? 1 Like |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Debeloved87(m): 5:52pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
obadiah777: well i guess you fall into this category >>>> isaiah 6 vs 9 And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not. <<< this you right here Debeloved87.no sire, u do err in making us want to believe that what u believe is right,...i have an understanding of the book of revelation....the angel u turned to christ in the book of revelation is one of the arch angels assigned to john..the voice from the throne is that of christ.,.jesus is different from the angels, u of all people should know this, i hope one of these days God wil giv u a glimpse of Heaven..u do really nid it. 1 Like |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by texanomaly(f): 5:58pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
obadiah777: this is bigger than who is right or who is wrong. this here thang is about the truth ruthSMH again... Your, so called truth, not mine I'll leave it to you and the rest... Enjoy |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Nobody: 6:09pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
idnoble135: Obadiah, i think you need to need to step up your bible understanding.my understanding of the bible is copasetic, all praises to the merciful, the omnipotent, ha mashayach |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Nobody: 6:11pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
joel lala:i believe i have 5 poignant posts on the topic. impeccable posts i may add, even if i do say so myself |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Nobody: 6:13pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
Debeloved87: no sire, u do err in making us want to believe that what u believe is right,...i have an understanding of the book of revelation....the angel u turned to christ in the book of revelation is one of the arch angels assigned to john..the voice from the throne is that of christ.,.jesus is different from the angels, u of all people should know this, i hope one of these days God wil giv u a glimpse of Heaven..u do really nid it.listen i have been blessed, all praises be to ha mashayach, with an impeccable insight into the book of revelation and just from this your post alone i can tell you have no clue what the book of revelation is about. 1 Like |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Nobody: 6:14pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
texanomaly:the truth is universal. it is yours and mine. now whether you choose to accept it is a different matter altogether |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by Nobody: 6:15pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
obadiah777: my understanding of the bible is copasetic, all praises to the merciful, the omnipotent, ha mashayachNo sir. You sir, have a partial knowledge and not a complete knowledge like all the saints. At such, there must needs be occasions that you concur and affirm before all that you were wrong. Thats all 1 Like |
Re: Archangel Michael Is Jesus Christ by texanomaly(f): 6:18pm On Sep 21, 2013 |
obadiah777: listen i have been blessed, all praises be to ha mashayach, with an impeccable insight into the book of revelation and just from this your post alone i can tell you have no clue what the book of revelation is about.Deuce my dear...how do you get that head of yours through the door in the morning? |
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