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Re: Religious debate: Do you Shun Jw(s)&why? (2)what do you beleive&practice?. by Nobody: 4:03pm On Oct 07, 2013 |
macof: says Ifa u've got xom questnz to ansa |
Re: Religious debate: Do you Shun Jw(s)&why? (2)what do you beleive&practice?. by macof(m): 4:05pm On Oct 07, 2013 |
kizmartino:what questions? |
Re: Religious debate: Do you Shun Jw(s)&why? (2)what do you beleive&practice?. by Nobody: 10:58pm On Oct 07, 2013 |
macof: what questions? 1st letz stat wit.....wht rili do u bliv nd practice |
Re: Religious debate: Do you Shun Jw(s)&why? (2)what do you beleive&practice?. by macof(m): 11:29pm On Oct 07, 2013 |
kizmartino:I believe in the religion of my ancestors and hope to follow up from where the started and also being a true Yoruba African. I won't say I practise anything, I just give thanx to God, and follow my consciousness |
Re: Religious debate: Do you Shun Jw(s)&why? (2)what do you beleive&practice?. by Nobody: 12:06am On Oct 08, 2013 |
macof: I believe in the religion of my ancestors and hope to follow up from where the started and also being a true Yoruba African. u rili gettin me confuse yer...are u traditionalist |
Re: Religious debate: Do you Shun Jw(s)&why? (2)what do you beleive&practice?. by splashybone(m): 2:56am On Oct 08, 2013 |
God a Trinity? The Bible’s answer Many Christian denominations teach that God is a Trinity. However, note what the Encyclopædia Britannica states: “Neither the word Trinity nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament . . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies.” In fact, the God of the Bible is never described as being part of a Trinity. Note these Bible passages: “Jehovah our God is one Jehovah.”— Deuteronomy 6:4 . “You, whose name is Jehovah, you alone are the Most High over all the earth.”— Psalm 83:18 . “This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.”— John 17:3 . “God is only one.”— Galatians 3:20 . Why do most Christian denominations say that God is a Trinity? MYTH: God Is a Trinity What is the origin of the myth? “The impression could arise that the Trinitarian dogma is in the last analysis a late 4th-century invention. In a sense, this is true . . . The formulation ‘one God in three Persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century.”— New Catholic Encyclopedia (1967), Volume 14, page 299. “The Council of Nicaea met on May 20, 325 [C.E.]. Constantine himself presided, actively guiding the discussions, and personally proposed . . . the crucial formula expressing the relation of Christ to God in the creed issued by the council, ‘of one substance with the Father.’ . . . Overawed by the emperor, the bishops, with two exceptions only, signed the creed, many of them much against their inclination.”— Encyclopædia Britannica (1970), Volume 6, page 386. What does the Bible say? “Stephen, filled with the Holy Spirit, gazed into heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at God’s right hand. ‘Look! I can see heaven thrown open,’ he said, ‘and the Son of man standing at the right hand of God.’”— Acts 7:55, 56 , The New Jerusalem Bible. What did this vision reveal? Filled with God’s active force, Stephen saw Jesus “standing at God’s right hand.” Clearly, then, Jesus did not become God again after his resurrection to heaven but, rather, a distinct spiritual being. There is no mention of a third person next to God in this account. Despite attempts to find passages of Scripture to support the Trinity dogma, Dominican priest Marie-Émile Boismard wrote in his book À l’aube du christianisme—La naissance des dogmes (At the Dawn of Christianity—The Birth of Dogmas): “The statement that there are three persons in the one God . . . cannot be read anywhere in the New Testament.” The dogma that Constantine championed was intended to put an end to dissensions within the fourth-century Church. However, it actually raised another issue: Was Mary, the woman who bore Jesus, “the Mother of God”? Compare these Bible verses: Matthew 26:39; John 14:28; 1 Corinthians 15:27, 28; Colossians 1:15, 16 |
Re: Religious debate: Do you Shun Jw(s)&why? (2)what do you beleive&practice?. by Nobody: 3:22am On Oct 08, 2013 |
splashybone: God a Trinity? hmmm...blessed are those who enlighten,they shall never get confuse.. Well done!!! But wht do u bliv nd y 1 Like |
Re: Religious debate: Do you Shun Jw(s)&why? (2)what do you beleive&practice?. by Yooguyz: 10:17am On Oct 08, 2013 |
splashybone: God a Trinity?source of article please? |
Re: Religious debate: Do you Shun Jw(s)&why? (2)what do you beleive&practice?. by macof(m): 10:38am On Oct 08, 2013 |
kizmartino:You can say that |
Re: Religious debate: Do you Shun Jw(s)&why? (2)what do you beleive&practice?. by Nobody: 11:15am On Oct 08, 2013 |
@macof.. U jux have to practice somthing..thats ur gate pass to heaven.we are so muh close to end time for anyone to claim ignorace..**my own opinion** |
Re: Religious debate: Do you Shun Jw(s)&why? (2)what do you beleive&practice?. by macof(m): 11:18am On Oct 08, 2013 |
kizmartino: @macof..pls make me understand this post better |
Re: Religious debate: Do you Shun Jw(s)&why? (2)what do you beleive&practice?. by ajayikayod: 11:45am On Oct 08, 2013 |
macof: Bros IF EVERYTIN IS god dt u talked about that means such god is a dog, god is a goat, god is a pencil, d sand we march on too, even ur hair is god. |
Re: Religious debate: Do you Shun Jw(s)&why? (2)what do you beleive&practice?. by Nobody: 12:09pm On Oct 08, 2013 |
ajayikayod: i dnt tink datz wht he meant...GOD's presence cn b felt in nature..everytin dat has life(my own view) @macof..i meant ...u nid to practice somtin...cus its smhw lyk a pathway/gate to heaven |
Re: Religious debate: Do you Shun Jw(s)&why? (2)what do you beleive&practice?. by macof(m): 1:56pm On Oct 08, 2013 |
ajayikayod:You really dont understand a thing |
Re: Religious debate: Do you Shun Jw(s)&why? (2)what do you beleive&practice?. by macof(m): 1:57pm On Oct 08, 2013 |
kizmartino:u sound as if u want me to create a religion |
Re: Religious debate: Do you Shun Jw(s)&why? (2)what do you beleive&practice?. by ajayikayod: 4:57pm On Oct 08, 2013 |
macof: You really dont understand a thing Rabbi, u dont need to abuse, we are discussing intelligently. Pls answer wat i asked before U said god is everytin. And i ask if d god u talked about is also a goat and can be a pencil too, or possibly d sand under ur feet. |
Re: Religious debate: Do you Shun Jw(s)&why? (2)what do you beleive&practice?. by macof(m): 5:30pm On Oct 08, 2013 |
ajayikayod: Before I answer ur questions. are u Jewish? |
Re: Religious debate: Do you Shun Jw(s)&why? (2)what do you beleive&practice?. by ajayikayod: 5:55pm On Oct 08, 2013 |
macof:Nigerian |
Re: Religious debate: Do you Shun Jw(s)&why? (2)what do you beleive&practice?. by macof(m): 6:36pm On Oct 08, 2013 |
ajayikayod:a Nigerian practising Judaism? |
Re: Religious debate: Do you Shun Jw(s)&why? (2)what do you beleive&practice?. by ajayikayod: 6:53pm On Oct 08, 2013 |
macof: a Nigerian practising Judaism? I dont practise religion, i m a christian. U still havent answered me. |
Re: Religious debate: Do you Shun Jw(s)&why? (2)what do you beleive&practice?. by Nobody: 8:17pm On Oct 08, 2013 |
Sometimes too much knowledge hinders our progress...never take for granted d tins of God... Any JW..cum ansa som questn jawe |
Re: Religious debate: Do you Shun Jw(s)&why? (2)what do you beleive&practice?. by macof(m): 8:36pm On Oct 08, 2013 |
ajayikayod:ok then ur use of the word "Rabbi" can't make me take u seriously |
Re: Religious debate: Do you Shun Jw(s)&why? (2)what do you beleive&practice?. by ajayikayod: 4:28pm On Oct 09, 2013 |
macof: ok then ur use of the word "Rabbi" can't make me take u seriously Well, u r the Rabbi (Master, Teacher) because u told me dt i kno nothing. So my Rabbi talk to me, Lets discuss on point. |
Re: Religious debate: Do you Shun Jw(s)&why? (2)what do you beleive&practice?. by macof(m): 5:34pm On Oct 09, 2013 |
ajayikayod:your username is AJAYI so I assume you are my brother being a Yoruba. And it wud make more sense to use Yoruba words instead of Hebrew words |
Re: Religious debate: Do you Shun Jw(s)&why? (2)what do you beleive&practice?. by ajayikayod: 9:41pm On Oct 09, 2013 |
macof: your username is AJAYI so I assume you are my brother being a Yoruba. And it wud make more sense to use Yoruba words instead of Hebrew words Ok, sometin lik OLUKO AGBA. Actually God is not in everytin. |
Re: Religious debate: Do you Shun Jw(s)&why? (2)what do you beleive&practice?. by macof(m): 2:47pm On Oct 10, 2013 |
ajayikayod:God is the the very reason evrything and anything exist. his Energy is present in everything and even more is present in us Humans. You once asked if it applies to animals like dog, goat etc. and the answer is YES!. when our bodies were formed, God deposited more of his Energy into us making us come alive, our souls are part of Gods essence because they are directly from him. Normally God shouldnt be attributed as a male or female by using "He" or "She" but for the purpose of Christians who have been taught about God as a male figure, I would continue. God is pure and living Energy with consciousness, that is why everything in existence is formed from Him. It is more appropriate to state that He is the Ultimate form of Energy, where other energies are formed from. Everything as Energy, and those Energies have a Source= God |
Re: Religious debate: Do you Shun Jw(s)&why? (2)what do you beleive&practice?. by khaleb(m): 3:16pm On Oct 10, 2013 |
They believe in armagedon? Who does that! Until I figure out what they are smoking, I will continue to...............I don't really know |
Re: Religious debate: Do you Shun Jw(s)&why? (2)what do you beleive&practice?. by Nobody: 6:43pm On Oct 10, 2013 |
khaleb: They believe in armagedon? Who does that! Until I figure out what they are smoking, I will continue to...............I don't really know wht do u believe? |
Re: Religious debate: Do you Shun Jw(s)&why? (2)what do you beleive&practice?. by ajayikayod: 11:04pm On Oct 10, 2013 |
macof: God is the the very reason evrything and anything exist. his Energy is present in everything and even more is present in us Humans. You once asked if it applies to animals like dog, goat etc. and the answer is YES!. when our bodies were formed, God deposited more of his Energy into us making us come alive, our souls are part of Gods essence because they are directly from him. If u ar a Christian, i need to let u kno dt all ds u wrote doesnt hav a place in d Word of God If u r not, then first thing i need to let u kno is dt thr is a creator and a savior. We can pick from thr when u r clear on ds two. |
Re: Religious debate: Do you Shun Jw(s)&why? (2)what do you beleive&practice?. by macof(m): 9:13am On Oct 11, 2013 |
ajayikayod:wat word of God? have u heard God talk that u say u know the word of God? word of Jewish men u call word of God. Am sorry for ur gullibility, u really need to advance past ur current level of intelligence. Am aware of the creator, that's wat I explained in my last post, but that saviour u talk abt doesn't save anything. U can believe u would go to hell unless u worship ur Jewish master, u can believe the words of men are the words of God, U can believe only Jews know God. But don't preach nonsense and deviate people from intelligent reasoning |
Re: Religious debate: Do you Shun Jw(s)&why? (2)what do you beleive&practice?. by ajayikayod: 9:34am On Oct 11, 2013 |
macof: wat word of God? have u heard God talk that u say u know the word of God? word of Jewish men u call word of God. Am sorry for ur gullibility, u really need to advance past ur current level of intelligence. U see, such intelligence u claim is referred to vanity in d Word, the best of d knowledge of ds world is darkness, vanity and foolishness. I m not here to argue wit u on whether thr is God or Savior. I will rather strife 2get u saved in Christ wit every opportunity given to me by God than engage in unending fallacy/argument. Anytin i need to discuss outside ds wont benefit d unsaved. See, ppl wit lik tot dt u portrayed ar fully identified in d scriptures even b4 we were born and d more i hear u, d more i see God's grace and power abounding to save u thru d Gospel of Christ. Definitely macof, u wont escape ds grace because b4 ur rejection and acquiring of knowledge, He has loved u. Ur struggling wit it or trying hard to prove it wrong cant nullify His desire for u - "To be saved and come to d knowlegde of His glory". |
Re: Religious debate: Do you Shun Jw(s)&why? (2)what do you beleive&practice?. by macof(m): 12:00pm On Oct 11, 2013 |
ajayikayod:Some questions for you. pls answer them as I know christians usually leave my questions unanswered 1. Who told you u needed a saviour, that u had to believe in a Jew before you can get to heaven? 2. What are you suppose to do to make heaven? just believe in jesus? 3. What did your ancestors say about heaven, and how to make it to heaven?? 4. did your ancestors preach about any messiah? 5. Are your ancestors going to hell for not worshipping the Jew? 6. why did Jesus not go round the world preaching? since you claim he came for the world why did he not preach to the world, why only Jews? 7. why do u Believe Jesus in the first place? wats makes u so convinced that u cant get to heaven unless u worship him? 8. would people who dont worship the Jew go to hell? 9. Why is the bible about the Jews, why don't I see any righteous attributes allocated to the gentiles? 10. Why is it that God showed himself only to the Jews? 11. Why was it only Israel that was referred to as God's own nation? so Egypt and the rest were for Satan abi? I think I should stop here, I really have a lot of questions to put forward but maybe as time goes on I would, but Christians should answer this questions |
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