macof: Some questions for you. pls answer them as I know christians usually leave my questions unanswered
1. Who told you u needed a saviour, that u had to believe in a Jew before you can get to heaven?
2. What are you suppose to do to make heaven? just believe in jesus?
3. What did your ancestors say about heaven, and how to make it to heaven??
4. did your ancestors preach about any messiah?
5. Are your ancestors going to hell for not worshipping the Jew?
6. why did Jesus not go round the world preaching? since you claim he came for the world why did he not preach to the world, why only Jews?
7. why do u Believe Jesus in the first place? wats makes u so convinced that u cant get to heaven unless u worship him?
8. would people who dont worship the Jew go to hell?
9. Why is the bible about the Jews, why don't I see any righteous attributes allocated to the gentiles?
10. Why is it that God showed himself only to the Jews?
11. Why was it only Israel that was referred to as God's own nation? so Egypt and the rest were for Satan abi?

I think I should stop here, I really have a lot of questions to put forward but maybe as time goes on I would, but Christians should answer this questions

ajayikayod:

Bro, d funniest thing is a believers' foundation class will clear all d listed questions and any doubt u hav but a man cant understand beyond its senses, it takes d Spirit of Christ to understand d Word of God

1 Corith 2:6-16, We do, however, speak a message of wisdom among the mature, but not the wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. 7 No, we declare God’s wisdom, a mystery that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 8 None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. 9 However, as it is written:

“What no eye has seen,
what no ear has heard,
and what no human mind has conceived”[b]—
the things God has prepared for those who love him—
10 these are the things God has revealed to us by his Spirit.
The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. 11 For who knows a person’s thoughts except their own spirit within them? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. 12 What we have received is not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may understand what God has freely given us. 13 This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words.[c] 14 The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit. 15 The person with the Spirit makes judgments about all things, but such a person is not subject to merely human judgments, 16 for,

“Who has known the mind of the Lord
so as to instruct him?”[d]
But we have the mind of Christ.


Definately, arguing d scripture wit u wont profit anyone. I will be glad if u can take d first bold step then light will come. It doesnt matter wat ever u hav believed or disbelieved, wat matter most is ur life. I feel Christ love abounding much more around u daily, everywhr u go or do. Embracing ds grace will surely b d greatest decision u ever made. u gave all u stand for today a first opportunity to test its reality, why not giv ds a sincere opportunity and see how much u ar loved.

macof:

dude, Quotes from your man written book aka words of men are only for the weak minded, and mentally immature individuals.
I wonder why any time I bring forth questions like this to Christians they just quote some words of men, without thinking for themselves, and using their brains.

You disgust me *spits*

ajayikayod:

i will rather hav u disgusted now wit my word than leave u to urself.
I will rather accept all ur abuses than giving up on u. Wat matters to me is ur life, ur being. Irrespective of wat u hold as believ, a proper understanding can only come between us later and i believ its so soon. U definitely cant escape it becos many here on NL ar praying for u, especially u. His abounding grace reflects so much around u waiting fro ur acceptance. He wont b wary no matter wat u say, do, think, u hav been loved and always loved.

macof: we have totally derailed this thread. abeg open new thread for evangelism and watch me scatter the place

kizmartino: @macof..
Harden not your heart..
Your questions have answers but dnt u think it is better to worship God without doubt?

Things of God are difficult to comprehend..for God's ways is not ours!

kizmartino: @macof..
Harden not your heart..
Your questions have answers but dnt u think it is better to worship God without doubt?

Things of God are difficult to comprehend..for God's ways is not ours!

kizmartino: @macof..
Harden not your heart..
Your questions have answers but dnt u think it is better to worship God without doubt?

Things of God are difficult to comprehend..for God's ways is not ours!

macof: Some questions for you. pls answer them as I know christians usually leave my questions unanswered
1. Who told you u needed a saviour, that u had to believe in a Jew before you can get to heaven?
2. What are you suppose to do to make heaven? just believe in jesus?
3. What did your ancestors say about heaven, and how to make it to heaven??
4. did your ancestors preach about any messiah?
5. Are your ancestors going to hell for not worshipping the Jew?
6. why did Jesus not go round the world preaching? since you claim he came for the world why did he not preach to the world, why only Jews?
7. why do u Believe Jesus in the first place? wats makes u so convinced that u cant get to heaven unless u worship him?
8. would people who dont worship the Jew go to hell?
9. Why is the bible about the Jews, why don't I see any righteous attributes allocated to the gentiles?
10. Why is it that God showed himself only to the Jews?
11. Why was it only Israel that was referred to as God's own nation? so Egypt and the rest were for Satan abi?

I think I should stop here, I really have a lot of questions to put forward but maybe as time goes on I would, but Christians should answer this questions

macof: I worship God without doubt, I worship God with all my heart.

Why do u imply dat God is complicated? God is nt complicated, it's easy to understand him, I understand God. So if upon ur Bible u don't understand God, it jst means ur religion is useless

ajayikayod:

macof,
Christ is the singular solution to every challenges of life, he s d explanation of all questions, he s all God wanted to say to us.
Science, religions and humans generally hav done/still doing thr plausible best to make d world a better place for all humanity, but Christ brought life and immortality to light, exposing us to reality.

Really, lik i ve said before dt u hav a passion to kno God more, it showed all thru, i trust God to help u accept ds decision so dt all can be revealed not in mysteries but in plain words.

kizmartino: @splashybone..
I agree with ur answers except for no.5..

The bible clearly states that hell is for d devil nd evil people alone.(remember the parable of d wheat nd tare)

macof: Some questions for you. pls answer them as I know christians usually leave my questions unanswered
1. Who told you u needed a saviour, that u had to believe in a Jew before you can get to heaven?
2. What are you suppose to do to make heaven? just believe in jesus?
3. What did your ancestors say about heaven, and how to make it to heaven??
4. did your ancestors preach about any messiah?
5. Are your ancestors going to hell for not worshipping the Jew?
6. why did Jesus not go round the world preaching? since you claim he came for the world why did he not preach to the world, why only Jews?
7. why do u Believe Jesus in the first place? wats makes u so convinced that u cant get to heaven unless u worship him?
8. would people who dont worship the Jew go to hell?
9. Why is the bible about the Jews, why don't I see any righteous attributes allocated to the gentiles?
10. Why is it that God showed himself only to the Jews?
11. Why was it only Israel that was referred to as God's own nation? so Egypt and the rest were for Satan abi?

I think I should stop here, I really have a lot of questions to put forward but maybe as time goes on I would, but Christians should answer this questions

JMAN05:

1. the word of the almighty God said so. not just a jew but Jesus himself.

2. believe in Jesus calls for your observing his word.

3. what did my ancesters do to prevent themselves from dying to show they have power over death, what did they say about how we were made and how we got here? who were the progeny of my ancestors, and what did their ancestor ancestors... till we get one man and woman believe? what did their son son sons say?

4. go as far as getting our ancestor ancestors, down to the 4026 BCE and ask whether they believed in a messiah.

did all ur ancestors serve almighty God? must you do all that your ancestors did?

5. they are already in hell and anyone will remain there if they worship the jews.

6. His main reason for his coming is to die for our sins. he also wants to gather the lost sheep of israel. why? cos ALL NATIONS will bless themselves thru the seed of abraham. and they will become royal priests for the good of all(had it been they obeyed) he preached to a samaritan.

7. because he is the way to life. He conquered death. to get to heaven, you must be born again not worship Jesus.

8. Who said you should worship the Ijews?

9. Cornelus, Timothy and Titus are not jews. remember the Nenivites.

10. He didnt show Himself to the jews, ie Jews didnt see him face to face. Jesus has been existing in heaven. The choice of the jews is a fulfilment of a promise.

11. not jews alone after christ. 1Pet. 2:9

macof:
Total crap for dogs to chew on like wild hyenas.

1. You have nothing to prove the genuity of yeshua

2. The Bible is a mere piece of paper written by men

3. You have nothing to say about heaven, I expect an Igbo to give me Igbo views abt heaven, a Yoruba to give me Yoruba views abt not tell me crap and beat around the bush

4. You can't answer my question,but I'll answer urs- yes! All my ancestors served God. And it is better for me as a Yoruba to be a Yoruba than to be a Jew

5. So the Dead Jew didn't save your ancestors, and now all your ancestors are in hell. o da pe o tie je omo Yoruba

6. Abraham has his blessings, I have mean even greater than his, Only Jews and possibly Arabs are seeds of Abraham, am Yoruba and we carry the seed of Oduduwa and all our ancestors.

7. Jesus is a gay who only shows naked men the way

8. Wat is this one saying Some Christians need to go back to school

9. Wats my concern with Romans and local villages like Nineveh you would tell me when the Jews ever made it known that other groups worshipped God

10. He didn't show himself to the Jews, it's the Chinese he showed himself to

11. after Christ Was this not when plan "confuse the world" was taken into action

splashybone: l.God's word the Bible provides us with the most satisfying answers only if we are ready to accept it. When we see ring of truth can we accept it as truly God's word or do we still have doubts
1. John 3:16 answers God loved the world so much that He gave his only begotten son that whoever BELIEVES will not be destroyed but have everlasting life
2. Jesus is not the only criteria for us to inherit God's kingdom why? John 17:3 answers this means everlasting life the taking in knowledge of You the Only true God and the one whom u sent forth Jesus Christ.
3. The Bible made it clear that its not everyone will make Heaven rather its only a selected few whose responsibility it is to rule with Christ in Heaven Rev 5:10 made it clear the work these selected few will be doing while the remaining great crowd of other sheep will inherit the earth Psalms 37:9,10,11&29
4.Almost all the prophets prior to Jesus Christ prophesied about him and all the things said about him fulfilled
5.Hell actually means the common grave of mankind. meaning all humans whether good or bad will go there
6. Even from a human stand point it was not possible to do that recognizing that fact made Jesus to trained people to carry on the word to the most distant part of the earth
7.It is my him only we will have salvation that why in the name of Jesus every kneel whether in heaven except He that gave him such authority and the ones on earth must bow. We don't worship Jesus because God alone should be worshipped and rendered sacred service even in Jesus' reply to Satan's temptation proved this point
8. refer to 5&7
9.Cornelius still was a gentile and much good was attributed to him.
10.Its so because they are a people special to God
11.If u can recall the convenant God entered with Abraham that my means of his seed all nations on earth will bless themselves. Jacob who was ryenamed Israel started that nation. That seed the primary part was Jesus Christ but. when the Jews refused to accept the provision of life God offered He now threw the invitation open why because God is not partial but the man that fears Him us agreeable to Him.
So my friends pls do not fight with Words or abuse yourselves rather give it a careful thought pls

JMAN05:

1. out of point. try again.

2. do you need the one written by angels?

3. that is not the answer to the question. second chance.

4. abeg which of the questions did you answer? what did they serve Him with, His word the bible or what? one question remain unanswered.

5. thanks. hope u are cleared.

6. read well man. Your responds is out of context.

7. out of context. try again.

8. replace "Ijew" with "jews" in above. what is your point?

9. refer to your question.

10. Prove.

11. Prove.

kizmartino: @macof..

What god(s) do you claim your fore-fathers serve

Were they not mere mortals

macof: mere mortals like sango, an extraordinary man, that controlled fire when he died he became deified, much like Hercules of the greeks who possessed unbelievable strength and endurance, but was deified after death.

However before sango, the Yorubas had a thunder and lightening god called "jakuta".

We worship gods, we worship God.
www.nairaland.com/1463158/aborisa-yoruba-religion

But you people worship man and claim he is God. That is just stupid

splashybone: l.God's word the Bible provides us with the most satisfying answers only if we are ready to accept it. When we see ring of truth can we accept it as truly God's word or do we still have doubts
1. John 3:16 answers God loved the world so much that He gave his only begotten son that whoever BELIEVES will not be destroyed but have everlasting life
2. Jesus is not the only criteria for us to inherit God's kingdom why? John 17:3 answers this means everlasting life the taking in knowledge of You the Only true God and the one whom u sent forth Jesus Christ.
3. The Bible made it clear that its not everyone will make Heaven rather its only a selected few whose responsibility it is to rule with Christ in Heaven Rev 5:10 made it clear the work these selected few will be doing while the remaining great crowd of other sheep will inherit the earth Psalms 36:9,10,11&29
4.Almost all the prophets prior to Jesus Christ prophesied about him and all the things said about him fulfilled
5.Hell actually means the common grave of mankind. meaning all humans whether good or bad will go there
6. Even from a human stand point it was not possible to do that recognizing that fact made Jesus to trained people to carry on the word to the most distant part of the earth
7.It is my him only we will have salvation that why in the name of Jesus every kneel whether in heaven except He that gave him such authority and the ones on earth must bow. We don't worship Jesus because God alone should be worshipped and rendered sacred service even in Jesus' reply to Satan's temptation proved this point
8. refer to 5&7
9.Cornelius still was a gentile and much good was attributed to him.
10.Its so because they are a people special to God
11.If u can recall the convenant God entered with Abraham that my means of his seed all nations on earth will bless themselves. Jacob who was renamed Israel started that nation. That seed the primary part was Jesus Christ but. when the Jews refused to accept the provision of life God offered He now threw the invitation open why because God is not partial but the man that fears Him us agreeable to Him.
So my friends pls do not fight with Words or abuse yourselves rather give it a careful thought pls

kizmartino:

yours is so rediculous..

They were deify by whom..same mere mortals..

We serve God(creator of the whole universe including sango,oduduwa,oranmiya etc) and Jesus isn't a mere mortal..He transformed his being..just like you people claim oduduwa did

kizmartino: @macof..

U're jus being blind to the truth.Dont let ur passion for ur tradition nd heritage stop u from being realistic.

kizmartino: Am not being inferior..just that Africa tradition is base on fetish practice and idolatry which is against the practice of true religion.

macof:

1. Define fetish?
I expect you to check a dictionary, because you don't know the meaning of that word

2. Define Idolatry?
You don't know the meaning of this word either