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Re: A Thread For Catholics by Rich4god(m): 11:34pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by chikk(f): 12:08am On Aug 27, 2016 |
darknez: darknez: darknez: Bia nwokem mechie onu gi ebe ahu before something happens to you. Are you high on vomit or just overwhelmed by your "darknez". and don't quote me oooooo |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by Nobody: 4:53am On Aug 27, 2016 |
chikk: *Thinking of what to say that would get her veeeeeeeeeery upset* Oh...yes, I quoted you. That's not exactly it but it will do since I am feeling very Christian today. |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by lacum: 7:37pm On Aug 27, 2016 |
wizzyjay:yes that was my first society before i left delta state. its not in my present diocese. |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by wizzyjay(m): 9:01pm On Aug 27, 2016 |
lacum: you can form it there now |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by biuti(f): 12:09am On Aug 28, 2016 |
darknez: Let me give reply to your reasons. 1. Catholics don't make images "For Worship", they are just the way people keep images of their loved ones. No body bows to image in Catholic, if you see anybody bowing around any image, know that they are not bowing to the image but the person it portrays. 2. Yes, Christ is the only mediator between God and man but it's never a sin for man to have mediator between him and Christ and that's where Mary stands. Catholics pray to Jesus Christ and also to Him through Mary. Catholics believe Mother and child relationship still exist between Jesus and Mary because of some examples we read in the bible like the Miracle He performed at the wedding in Cannan. There has bn situations where one would pray but wouldn't get answer but when they do through Mary, they would mysteriously know why their prayer is not answered and make corrections, then get answer to their prayer. Just like we believe Jesus is alive, Catholics believe Mary too is alive. She even teaches prayer. For example she appeared to someone and said people should always pray this prayer "Oh our Jesus, Forgive us our sins, Save us from the fire of hell and Lead all souls to heaven, especially those who are in most need of Your mercy" Now tell me what glorifies Mary in that prayer she taught. 2 Likes |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by Kamsified: 4:32am On Aug 28, 2016 |
Rich4god: Lol sorry na |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by Nobody: 9:28am On Aug 28, 2016 |
biuti: Well thought out response. They make sense too. Now for the bold: You said Mary taught that prayer? Can you give me a quote from the bible where that is? |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by Geist(m): 10:41am On Aug 28, 2016 |
darknez:Why must it be in the Bible for it to be true? 1 Like |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by lacum: 10:41am On Aug 28, 2016 |
wizzyjay:bro i dont think its about forming societies but making sure d existing ones a still working fine. i am also a legionary n now i hv to make sure d legion is strong first. tks 1 Like |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by Nobody: 2:31pm On Aug 28, 2016 |
Geist: Um...but you are the one who used MUST and even went as far as making it bold. Anyways, I don't expect everything to be in the Bible, otherwise I would expect my last birthday celebration to have a mention there too. But considering that not every Christian is Catholic, don't you think it would be worrisome to explain some concepts using non-Biblical revelations? |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by biuti(f): 3:17pm On Aug 28, 2016 |
darknez: Thank you. The teaching of that pray happened just some years back! You may read this if you're interested https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%A1tima_Prayers?_e_pi_=7%2CPAGE_ID10%2C6115353032 And, do you think what is written in the bible alone is all that happened or inspired by the holy spirit during that time? |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by Geist(m): 3:23pm On Aug 28, 2016 |
darknez:I used must because your post seemed like you required every information about Christianity to be in the Bible. Anyway since we both agree every truth cannot be in the Bible then it only follows that there are truths in other sources outside the Bible. Christ only has one flock, nothing can be worrisome for those who remain in his fold. There was Christianity before the Bible was compiled and there was also conflicts within these communities of Christians but history tells us that they never relied solely on any books but rather on the leadership of the Church. Besides the apparition of Mary the other guy referred to happened years after the Bible was compiled so there was no way it could have been in the Bible. 1 Like |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by biuti(f): 3:30pm On Aug 28, 2016 |
darknez: Oh, i didn't even know you agreed everything can't be in the bible. Geist already answered you. |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by Nobody: 5:31pm On Aug 28, 2016 |
biuti: I will pass on that link you shared cause I don't trust wikipedia. It has a lot of good stuff no doubt but it is easily manipulated too. @Bold: But you said the 'teaching' from Mary is quite recent. Not exactly as old as Biblical revelations. |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by Nobody: 6:09pm On Aug 28, 2016 |
Geist: Now you give a lot of info all at once. Let me see if I can highlight the main points: 1) We agree not every truth is Biblical. 2) Truths can be found in other sources from the Bible. 3) Christ has only one flock. 4) Christianity existed before the Bible, as we know it in present times 5) The early Christian community relied on the Leadership of the Church for guidance, not on 'books'. Okies....hope I was able to cover all the points? Now, apart from 1) and 4) don't you think the other points are problematic? 2) Truths can be found in other sources no doubt. I can find some truths in a very good Mathematics text. If 1 is taken as a unit and 2 is taken as two units, where 3 is similarly taken as 3 units such that (1 + 1 = 2), (2 + 1 = 3), and (1 + 2 = 3)...it therefore follows that the operator "+", has a positive effect for which the operands increases by a unit when subsequent operands are added by just one unit. That bad example up there is true for all time and is taken to be a universal truth, irrespective of any culture, language or creed. However, the truth I presume you talk about, should also have that element of universality for it to be from God. Since the truths are non biblical, at what point do we draw the line between the truths revealed by the Spirit and those which are made by man? I am not sure if you see the problem therein? 3) Christ has more than one flock. Read up John 10:16. If that is the case, then the issue of leaving the flock is rendered irrelevant because some are already out. Thence the problem I mentioned about having a common bases for knowing revealed truths e.g the Bible remains. 5) The Leadership of the Church? Which Church? What Leadership? The one you follow? The one followed by Anglicans? Methodists? Protestants? |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by Nobody: 6:11pm On Aug 28, 2016 |
biuti: Yeah I agreed but there is still the challenge of knowing which is inspired or not. |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by biuti(f): 7:21pm On Aug 28, 2016 |
darknez:The holy spirit can help you to know the one He inspired, just the way you believed the ones in the bible though you were not there and neither were you the one inspired directly. |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by biuti(f): 7:33pm On Aug 28, 2016 |
darknez:Ok about wikipedia but I've being a Catholic from birth, I didn't get my fact from wikipedia. You can trust wikipedia on that link. @your second point, Yes. The question i asked is not related to my points. I asked just because people are always quick to ask us where anything we say is in the bible. |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by Geist(m): 9:29pm On Aug 28, 2016 |
darknez:Yes you did Now, apart from 1) and 4) don't you think the other points are problematic?I honestly don't see the problem, Yes there can only be one truth and yes there are more than one possible sources of truth. The key thing is that the truth from different sources should not contradict each other, If anything they should compliment each other. At what point do you draw the line between the truth revealed by the spirit and those which are man made? By man made I suppose you mean false teachings. 1) It should not contradict the Bible 2) It should not be contrary to the teachings of the one true church. Note: The two points listed above can in no way contradict each other, hence whatever information emanates from them can be true 3) Christ has more than one flock. Read up John 10:16. If that is the case, then the issue of leaving the flock is rendered irrelevant because some are already out. Thence the problem I mentioned about having a common bases for knowing revealed truths e.g the Bible remains. John 10: 15-17All I see here is Christ saying he has other sheep that are not yet in his one flock not that he has more than more flock. I believe he was referring to does who were yet to hear his gospel but who upon hearing his gospel will definitely join his flock. 5) The Leadership of the Church? Which Church? What Leadership? The one you follow? The one followed by Anglicans? Methodists? Protestants?Good question. Read up John 21:15-18. Christ clearly left the care of his sheep to Peter. Also read Matthew 16:17-19. Christ also made some big promises there, giving peter the keys to his kingdom and that the gates of hell shall not prevail over his church. Which means who ever his in his church(his flock) will definitely not go wrong because his church will always have the right leadership to guide them like Christ asked peter to. Now ask yourself, who succeeded Peter and who succeeded the person who succeeded Peter e.t.c There in lies the answer to your question. |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by wizzyjay(m): 10:12pm On Aug 28, 2016 |
lacum: OK just build your self with the faith God bless u |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by lacum: 11:17pm On Aug 28, 2016 |
danke shey |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by Nobody: 8:41pm On Sep 02, 2016 |
Geist: @Bold: Will come back to that if you did not say anything about this Church you speak of. Geist: I agree on the one flock thingy but I do not think Jesus was referring to only those who the Gospel is yet to get to. I believe those who he refers to are people who through no fault of theirs, aren't properly disposed to receive the message, though they strive to do what their conscience dictates to them. Geist: The answer I may come up with following that analogy may, surprisingly to you, not be anywhere near what you have in mind. If you want us to follow a particular line of succession, we may end up asking questions we definitely would not have any answer to. I am quite sure the line of succession you have in mind, is not particularly supported by Scriptures. |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by Geist(m): 2:18am On Sep 03, 2016 |
darknez:still we can both agree christ does have one flock as he rightly said in verse 16 of that passage " there will be one flock and one shepherd" what kind of questions are you talking about? I have followed that line of succession and I don't think I have half as many unanswered questions as many of these Christian sects have. Am not quite sure what you mean by the bolded. Are you saying you are sure that particular line of succession is against Scriptures are that Scriptures does not support it. Like we both agreed earlier, Scriptures does not have to support it but it should go against the Scriptures. There's a difference between the two. Besides if you followed your history of Christianity properly then you would know that this particular line of succession gave you what you now know as Scriptures. |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by Nobody: 6:29pm On Sep 04, 2016 |
Geist: I agree to and understand your points. |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by jnrbayano(m): 6:02am On Sep 05, 2016 |
darknez: Amen |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by oaroloye(m): 3:22pm On Sep 05, 2016 |
SHALOM! nuella4real: You want to be saved, do you not? Seek YAHSHUA first, then worry about the rest, later!
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Re: A Thread For Catholics by wizzyjay(m): 10:50pm On Sep 08, 2016 |
James 3:10 FROM THE SOME MOUTH COME BOTH BLESSING AND CURSE. WHICH ONE DO YOU CHOSE WITH YOUR MOUTH(TONGUE) 1 Like |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by Ubenedictus(m): 10:38am On Sep 15, 2016 |
oaroloye:WHAT THE HECK IS THAT? |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by Missonas(f): 4:24pm On Sep 15, 2016 |
Brethren remember your Saints. We dont know how priviledged we are to have them as intercessors. I started a 9day novena to St Rita and it ended yesterday. Today I can feel God moving things already! The saints are wonder workers!! Mama Rita this is me doing what i promised, making you known...Nothing is impossible for God!!! 4 Likes 1 Share
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Re: A Thread For Catholics by Rich4god(m): 10:01am On Sep 18, 2016 |
Novena to St Vincent de Paul..... Starting today 18th to 26th December..... Happy Sunday brethren.... |
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