Atouke:

If you had anything other than a quasi knowledge of engineering you would have answered the simple question ie Whats the merit/demerits of concrete/cement roads besides the obvious that us laymen have already gleaned.

But rather you resort to name calling and insult. that my friend is a classic display ignorance! ignorant ppl get mad and call their opponent names rather than discuss the issue, the reason is simply -- they have nothing to contribute to the debate. bye

alpontif:

Yea, I am empty, and am also spewing rubbish, am also obviously shallow of the topic I claimed to have bogus knowledge of, and I keep claiming such bogus Knowledge with my village folk.....you satisfied?

Ngwakwe: How will the dust oozing out from the road over time be managed considering high temperature and low humidity in our clime?

At a speed of 120km/h the vehicle behind yours may have visibility problem when the road starts degenerating.

malele: More money for dangote .
Hope he didn't bring those people before they made that declaration.

manny4life:

Yes, I read your rant but geez, CHILL, RELAX, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A BLOOD PRESSURE .

You're just too damn proud of yourself, where's the humbleness?

alpontif:

I am relaxed, I am not prone to losing my cool over issues with faceless bots on the internet, not in a 100 years.

I am not proud, just assertive. I know what I know.

But I am not gonna take this literally, coz this is not about me.

The issue is I do not think it smart that non domain experts discuss expert knowledge that ONLY domain experts can intelligently discuss without arriving at wrong conclusions. non experts do not even ask the right questions, since there premise is not backed by any technical training or experience in the domain to which the pretend to debate.

This usually results in misinformation and the propagation of half baked ''expert'' opinions.

You cannot find me discussing the merits and demerits of surgical techniques for complex proximal tibial fractures, that
can only be discussed by the domain experts, that is the surgeons practicing in that field, you may trust their conclusions, or not, but it is silly for a Civil engineer to start debating or discussing that.

Civil Engineering Design practices and construction is not forex or stock trading, that you can learn and understand practically without a proper technical training in it in a week.

Leave the domain topic to the domain experts, then you will not have a layman arguing with the Engineer on a project just because he got some misinformation from a forum on the internet.

ymx:


If properly done, I dont see dust oozing out from the road. Alot of roads in the US are made out of cement and I dont see it oozing. my only concern is friction when the roads are wet or cold. The cold is less of a concern because of the weather in Nigeria. I think it is a good development and if properly done will last longer.

alpontif:

I am relaxed, I am not prone to losing my cool over issues with faceless bots on the internet, not in a 100 years.

I am not proud, just assertive. I know what I know.

But I am not gonna take this literally, coz this is not about me....being a layman on the topic is not a disease...so why making it a big issue of layman vs expert

The issue is I do not think it smart that non domain experts discuss expert knowledge that ONLY domain experts can intelligently discuss without arriving at wrong conclusions. non experts do not even ask the right questions, since there premise is not backed by any technical training or experience in the domain to which the pretend to debate.

This usually results in misinformation and the propagation of half baked ''expert'' opinions.

You cannot find me discussing the merits and demerits of surgical techniques for complex proximal tibial fractures, that
can only be discussed by the domain experts, that is the surgeons practicing in that field, you may trust their conclusions, or not, but it is silly for a Civil engineer to start debating or discussing that.

Civil Engineering Design practices and construction is not forex or stock trading, that you can learn and understand practically without a proper technical training in it in a week.

Leave the domain topic to the domain experts, then you will not have a layman arguing with the Engineer on a project just because he got some misinformation from a forum on the internet.

Eledan: Normally ...it's won't make much economic sense to use cement on roads that don't experience very heavy traffic in term of usage ...such as streets and intra-city roads.

But since Nigeria have completely jettisoned rail-transportation for our cargo haulage transportation...investing in such cement-based roads is not out of place.

Presently....the whole of the access roads inside Tin-Can Apapa is cement based because of the heavy exposure to articulated trucks laden with containers and all sort of heavy cargoes....below is a road made of cement inside Tin-Can.


Despite the heavy abuse suffered by that road in the last 8 yrs....not a crack...talk less of a small hole is on it.

Eledan: Normally ...it's won't make much economic sense to use cement on roads that don't experience very heavy traffic in term of usage ...such as streets and intra-city roads.

But since Nigeria have completely jettisoned rail-transportation for our cargo haulage transportation...investing in such cement-based roads is not out of place.

Presently....the whole of the access roads inside Tin-Can Apapa is cement based because of the heavy exposure to articulated trucks laden with containers and all sort of heavy cargoes....below is a road made of cement inside Tin-Can.


Despite the heavy abuse suffered by that road in the last 8 yrs....not a crack...talk less of a small hole is on it.

alpontif:

I am relaxed, I am not prone to losing my cool over issues with faceless bots on the internet, not in a 100 years.

I am not proud, just assertive. I know what I know.

But I am not gonna take this literally, coz this is not about me.

The issue is I do not think it smart that non domain experts discuss expert knowledge that ONLY domain experts can intelligently discuss without arriving at wrong conclusions. non experts do not even ask the right questions, since there premise is not backed by any technical training or experience in the domain to which the pretend to debate.

This usually results in misinformation and the propagation of half baked ''expert'' opinions.

You cannot find me discussing the merits and demerits of surgical techniques for complex proximal tibial fractures, that
can only be discussed by the domain experts, that is the surgeons practicing in that field, you may trust their conclusions, or not, but it is silly for a Civil engineer to start debating or discussing that.

Civil Engineering Design practices and construction is not forex or stock trading, that you can learn and understand practically without a proper technical training in it in a week.

Leave the domain topic to the domain experts, then you will not have a layman arguing with the Engineer on a project just because he got some misinformation from a forum on the internet.

Orlando Owoh: I saw this about a year ago in Ughelli, where SETRACO was using it on the East-West Road.

onojiwizard@gmail.com:
majority of the roads in rivers are already been built with concrete base

jazzydee:

post pictures please.

Nate7even: Well cement is good for compression so it handles heavy duty trucks well, but if not properly mixed and cured in our type of climate it will crack and the cracks will be quite long, also cement will creep(flatten) over time but another layer can be laid

alpontif:

I am relaxed, I am not prone to losing my cool over issues with faceless bots on the internet, not in a 100 years.

I am not proud, just assertive. I know what I know.

But I am not gonna take this literally, coz this is not about me.

The issue is I do not think it smart that non domain experts discuss expert knowledge that ONLY domain experts can intelligently discuss without arriving at wrong conclusions. non experts do not even ask the right questions, since there premise is not backed by any technical training or experience in the domain to which the pretend to debate.

This usually results in misinformation and the propagation of half baked ''expert'' opinions.

You cannot find me discussing the merits and demerits of surgical techniques for complex proximal tibial fractures, that
can only be discussed by the domain experts, that is the surgeons practicing in that field, you may trust their conclusions, or not, but it is silly for a Civil engineer to start debating or discussing that.

Civil Engineering Design practices and construction is not forex or stock trading, that you can learn and understand practically without a proper technical training in it in a week.

Leave the domain topic to the domain experts, then you will not have a layman arguing with the Engineer on a project just because he got some misinformation from a forum on the internet.

Ngwakwe: How will the dust oozing out from the road over time be managed considering high temperature and low humidity in our clime?

At a speed of 120km/h the vehicle behind yours may have visibility problem when the road starts degenerating.

Ngwakwe: How will the dust oozing out from the road over time be managed considering high temperature and low humidity in our clime?

At a speed of 120km/h the vehicle behind yours may have visibility problem when the road starts degenerating.