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Re: Anti-tithers Are Playing On The Intelligence Of Nigerian Churches by PastorKun(m): 3:21pm On Oct 14, 2013
God has no need for us to worship him with our finances, he is more interested in our heart.

Acts 17:24
24 The God that made the world and all things therein, he, being Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;
25 neither is he served by men's hands, as though he needed anything , seeing he himself giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;

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Re: Anti-tithers Are Playing On The Intelligence Of Nigerian Churches by Alwaystrue(f): 3:23pm On Oct 14, 2013
@switchcgurl,
Another thing to add is that many do not understand what wealth is all about. They believe it means they have more to acquire but the bible has said those who are rich towards God...those that have records of what they have done.

Luke 12:15-21
15 And he said unto them, Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a man's life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth.

16 And he spake a parable unto them, saying, The ground of a certain rich man brought forth plentifully:
17 And he thought within himself, saying, What shall I do, because I have no room where to bestow my fruits?
18 And he said, This will I do: I will pull down my barns, and build greater; and there will I bestow all my fruits and my goods.
19 And I will say to my soul, Soul, thou hast much goods laid up for many years; take thine ease, eat, drink, and be merry.
20 But God said unto him, Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee: then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided?
21 So is he that layeth up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God.


A man's abundance does not consist of that which he possesses but that which he has in richness towards God.

1. How many widows and orphans do we have on our list that we attend to every month?
2. How many cars have we given out to others depending on our level of wealth?
3. How many people do we pay school fees for?
4. Do we still dedicate our tithe and offering to God as received by those serving in the ministry?
5. How many trips (air, road, sea, train) have we been able to sponsor for those who need it?
6. How many medical bills have we paid for sick people?
7. How often do people come to us for help knowing they will not return empty?
8. How many causes do we donate to on regular basis?
9. How many strangers, beggars have we taken special interest in, housed, fed, re-united them back with their family
10. How many ministries do we support?
11. How many businesses have we started up for people?

All these are not even mentioning assistance to family and friends.

There are levels God will take those who are channels of his goodness to that those who keep hoarding will not reach. For me, this is the way I see it, not about possessions but about how we estabish God's kingdom wherever we are. These are deep things.
Re: Anti-tithers Are Playing On The Intelligence Of Nigerian Churches by Zikkyy(m): 3:28pm On Oct 14, 2013
Alwaystrue:
The goal is to first give ourselves to God and then we can give God everything but it is hypocritical to believe our 100% belongs to God but 'strain at a gnat' on giving out of it. The Lord knows those that are His.

Candour:
If you truly give yourself to God, you won't be rating Him on the basis of 10%. God owns all and he's more valuable than that meagre, insultive and Pharisaical 10%.

Thank you Candour.

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Re: Anti-tithers Are Playing On The Intelligence Of Nigerian Churches by Goshen360(m): 3:28pm On Oct 14, 2013
Alwaystrue: @switchcgurl,
Another thing to add is that many do not understand what wealth is all about. They believe it means they have more to acquire but the bible has said those who are rich towards God...those that have records of what they have done.

Luke 12:15-21
15 And he said unto them, Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a man's life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth.

16 And he spake a parable unto them, saying, The ground of a certain rich man brought forth plentifully:
17 And he thought within himself, saying, What shall I do, because I have no room where to bestow my fruits?
18 And he said, This will I do: I will pull down my barns, and build greater; and there will I bestow all my fruits and my goods.
19 And I will say to my soul, Soul, thou hast much goods laid up for many years; take thine ease, eat, drink, and be merry.
20 But God said unto him, Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee: then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided?
21 So is he that layeth up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God.


A man's abundance does not consist of that which he possesses but that which he has in richness towards God.

1. How many widows and orphans do we have on our list that we attend to every month?
2. How many cars have we given out to others depending on our level of wealth?
3. How many people do we pay school fees for?
4. Do we still dedicate our tithe and offering to God as received by those serving in the ministry?
5. How many trips (air, road, sea, train) have we been able to sponsor for those who need it?
6. How many medical bills have we paid for sick people?
7. How often do people come to us for help knowing they will not return empty?
8. How many causes have we donated to in one way or the other?
9. How many strangers, beggars have we taken special interest in, housed, fed, re-united them back with their family
10. How many ministries do we support?
11. How many businesses have we started up for people?

All these are not even mentioning family and friends.

There are levels God will take those who are channels of his goodness to that those who keep hoarding will not reach. For me, this is the way I see it, not about possessions but about how we estabish God's kingdom wherever we are. These are deep things.

I know you referring to me or perhaps, people like me. Do you know how many people are under my care-list and still counting? Must I announce everyone I assist or when I do the above? If I do, religious people like you will still say it's a show off and be quoting your right hand must not know what your left hand is doing.

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Re: Anti-tithers Are Playing On The Intelligence Of Nigerian Churches by Zikkyy(m): 3:34pm On Oct 14, 2013
Alwaystrue:
@switchcgurl,
Another thing to add is that many do not understand what wealth is all about. They believe it means they have more to acquire but the bible has said those who are rich towards God...those that have records of what they have done.

thank you. The bolded is the reason most people 'pay' tithe. They are truly ill-informed.

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Re: Anti-tithers Are Playing On The Intelligence Of Nigerian Churches by christemmbassey(m): 3:37pm On Oct 14, 2013
Tithe is d BIGEST FRAUD in humanty bc, there is NO SINGLE verse in d entire bible, where christians are COMMANDED TO PAY 10% OF THEIR SALARIES/WAGES TO GOD, JESUS, PASTOR OR CHURCH. Some say, Abraham their father paid tithe to Melchizedek, ok, appart from d fact dat d once in a life time show of appreciation of Abraham to Melchizedek was not from Abraham's salary/wage but war spoil, why is it dat when Christ was on earth he DID NOT collect tithe in person or in proxy,(melchi colected from Abran in person) what does he (CHRIST) want to do with money(tithe) now dat he's in heaven? May b to buy longspan roofing sheet for d OP's section of mansion.

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Re: Anti-tithers Are Playing On The Intelligence Of Nigerian Churches by plaetton: 3:40pm On Oct 14, 2013
God2man: I am very sad about this forum. I registered 2011, if i am not mistaken, there are over 100 threads on only one topic, TITHE, it is disheartening with the way they called old men of God that are old enough to be their fathers , thieves, fraudster, and that they are teaching nonsense, the Bible says, we should respect elders, there is no courtesy,a good christian must have the fruit of the spirit, up till now, i keep asking, are they Christians or Atheist? Because a good christian will not call old men of God thieves, it is not possibe, but this is in the dictionary of Anti-tithers. It is what you respect that comes into your life, if you want to grow old, you should respect your elders in the Christiandom, they are not Jesus, but they are the respresentatives of God on earth

There are more than enough topics in the Bible, i beg all of them to stop this overflogged, overdebated, tithe issue on nairaland, in fact, the moderators should delete any topic on Tithe, it is a bad thing for this forum to fight against what the whole churches in Nigeria stood for, i mean paying of tithe, i understand that some churches may not preach about tithe, one thing is sure, they will NEVER stop anybody from paying tithe to them. They will accept it, directly or indirectly.

The question is why are people so desperate to stop tithing from all churches, this is an exercise in futility, a waste of time, an insult to Nigerian churches, and it is like they are playing on our inteligence.

You can deceive one person at a time, but it is difficult to deceive everybody at the same time. If you think that you are smart and you know Bible, i think as a wise person, you should know that other people are smart, wise, intelligent and have a great knowledge about the Bible.

This is the scenario, i believe a smart person that comes to this forum with his theology will take a great disposition and humble himself to listen to opposing view, but this is not the case on nairalan, they will insult you, call you names and make you to hate the forum.

The owner of the forum may think this argument is favourable to him, but he has forgotten that what goes round comes around, it is counterproductive, very soon people will not like to visit this forum again.

Anti-tithers on nairaland have been adopting different strategies to achieve their aims.

1. They used different ID's

2. They twist the scripture.

3. When they lost the arguement, they will result to insult.

4. They are very cunny.


A word is enough for the wise.

God bless all my brethren on this forum.

God2man.

A fraudster is a fraudster, whether old or young, whether carrying the bible or a magic wand.
The reason that corruption has become a way of life i Nigeria is because we are shy to call a spade a spade, a fraudster a fraudster.

Tithe is fraud.
That is why we have 5 churches per street in lagos.
Everybody wants to partake of this very lucrative fraud that is legitimized by the selective and prejudiced interpretation of scripture.

If tithe was not a fraud, the pentecostal fraudsers would duly give account of tithe collections and details of what charitable work they do with it for the benefit of members or the general public.

I suspect that you are living off tithe, so your lively hood is been threatened.

Poor you.
Like you said, you cannot fool people all the people all the time.

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Re: Anti-tithers Are Playing On The Intelligence Of Nigerian Churches by biomedixexcel(m): 3:44pm On Oct 14, 2013
I have tasted the Lord and He's good to me. Paying tithe, offering and first fruit have been my source of blessings, I will continue to be paying them the rest of my days. . . Praise God!
Re: Anti-tithers Are Playing On The Intelligence Of Nigerian Churches by Goshen360(m): 3:44pm On Oct 14, 2013
Okay. There are at least 10 study scriptures that abolished tithe and tithing. Can I go ahead please sirs and ma? cheesy

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Re: Anti-tithers Are Playing On The Intelligence Of Nigerian Churches by vowiski(m): 3:48pm On Oct 14, 2013
Lol, do people still talk about tithe in 2013? shocked
Re: Anti-tithers Are Playing On The Intelligence Of Nigerian Churches by GentleMimi: 3:48pm On Oct 14, 2013
chukwudi44: @OP

Your stupidity is quite profound!! What really is the essence of this thread? To kill off discussion on tithe? You are still a learner.

People would continue to get enlightened on the true essence of tithing and the principles behind it.Discussions on the topic cannot be stifled not even in a 100 years from now.it is even going to get worse with developments in the social media and other avenues of information disemination.

Our childrens will ask more questions than us.Their inquisitive minds would be open to answers from a various sources
*when they lost their arguement they will resort to insults*..i guess he was refering to d likes of u.
@ topic,for crying out loud! Why wld some ppl get high BP due to d fact dat i pay tithe? It is my money,biko nu! Allow me to spend it d way i feel.If i decide to pay 10 percent of my income to the house of God ,then fine and good. God will not come frm heaven to chop my money...its simply for d propagation of d gospel.I d'nt do it just b'cos i expect blessings in return,but i do it b'cos i believe in it.And guess wat folks? It works for meeeeeeeeee!! So ,mbok,leave me alone! Iyanmi!!!
Re: Anti-tithers Are Playing On The Intelligence Of Nigerian Churches by Nobody: 3:52pm On Oct 14, 2013
GentleMimi:
*when they lost their arguement they will resort to insults*..i guess he was refering to d likes of u.
@ topic,for crying out loud! Why wld some ppl get high BP due to d fact dat i pay tithe? It is my money,biko nu! Allow me to spend it d way i feel.If i decide to pay 10 percent of my income to the house of God ,then fine and good. God will not come frm heaven to chop my money...its simply for d propagation of d gospel.I d'nt do it just b'cos i expect blessings in return,but i do it b'cos i believe in it.And guess wat folks? It works for meeeeeeeeee!! So ,mbok,leave me alone! Iyanmi!!!

must it just be your 10% that would help propagate the gospel. The

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Re: Anti-tithers Are Playing On The Intelligence Of Nigerian Churches by Burger01(m): 3:53pm On Oct 14, 2013
@Op, na by force to tithe

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Re: Anti-tithers Are Playing On The Intelligence Of Nigerian Churches by Nobody: 3:54pm On Oct 14, 2013
GentleMimi:
*when they lost their arguement they will resort to insults*..i guess he was refering to d likes of u.
@ topic,for crying out loud! Why wld some ppl get high BP due to d fact dat i pay tithe? It is my money,biko nu! Allow me to spend it d way i feel.If i decide to pay 10 percent of my income to the house of God ,then fine and good. God will not come frm heaven to chop my money...its simply for d propagation of d gospel.I d'nt do it just b'cos i expect blessings in return,but i do it b'cos i believe in it.And guess wat folks? It works for meeeeeeeeee!! So ,mbok,leave me alone! Iyanmi!!!

must it be just your 10% that would help propagate the gospel. The truth is paying tithe actually limits your giving to the kingdom and helping propagate the gospel. Most people after paying tithe feel like they have paid God his salary for the month. And who tells you that until God sees your tithe he won't bless you. We now believe that tithing moves God faster

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Re: Anti-tithers Are Playing On The Intelligence Of Nigerian Churches by Irises(m): 3:55pm On Oct 14, 2013
Alwaystrue: Malachi 3:8
Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In TITHES AND OFFERINGS


Funny how people see nothing wrong with giving their offerings in church and believe they are giving it to God but feel the Tithe is going to man.
Really we now understand what the bible says about Faith.

They have faith to give offerings to God but cannot undertstand how the tithe is also for God. Yet God said TITHES and OFFERINGS. Without faith it is truly impossible to please God.

The goal is to first give ourselves to God and then we can give God everything but it is hypocritical to believe our 100% belongs to God but 'strain at a gnat' on giving out of it. The Lord knows those that are His.
thank you for saying the truth..all this anti tithers have misjudged the word of God.. are u people trying to say that we should not give our tithe to God..and rob God..when God blesses u, u have to pay your tithe and offering by faith..remember tithe and offering To GOD NOT TO MAN
Re: Anti-tithers Are Playing On The Intelligence Of Nigerian Churches by Nobody: 3:55pm On Oct 14, 2013
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Re: Anti-tithers Are Playing On The Intelligence Of Nigerian Churches by christemmbassey(m): 4:02pm On Oct 14, 2013
GentleMimi:
*when they lost their arguement they will resort to insults*..i guess he was refering to d likes of u.
@ topic,for crying out loud! Why wld some ppl get high BP due to d fact dat i pay tithe? It is my money,biko nu! Allow me to spend it d way i feel.If i decide to pay 10 percent of my income to the house of God ,then fine and good. God will not come frm heaven to chop my money...its simply for d propagation of d gospel.I d'nt do it just b'cos i expect blessings in return,but i do it b'cos i believe in it.And guess wat folks? It works for meeeeeeeeee!! So ,mbok,leave me alone! Iyanmi!!!
da mbok kpong mkpo oro, kpukpuru mkpo enyene ini, we r nt telling ppl not to give money to d church or for d wk of God, what we r saying is, pastors should stop d threats of malachi 3, tithe being part of the law dat regulated d old covenant was abolished with d levitical priesthood dat it was meant to sustain. There is no single verse in d entire bible where christians are commanded to pay tithe. All we ask is, study a bible, don't let ur bible b replaced by pastor's word. B like d berean christians. Obong, odiong fi.

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Re: Anti-tithers Are Playing On The Intelligence Of Nigerian Churches by Irises(m): 4:02pm On Oct 14, 2013
christemmbassey: Tithe is d BIGEST FRAUD in humanty bc, there is NO SINGLE verse in d entire bible, where christians are COMMANDED TO PAY 10% OF THEIR SALARIES/WAGES TO GOD, JESUS, PASTOR OR CHURCH. Some say, Abraham their father paid tithe to Melchizedek, ok, appart from d fact dat d once in a life time show of appreciation of Abraham to Melchizedek was not from Abraham's salary/wage but war spoil, why is it dat when Christ was on earth he DID NOT collect tithe in person or in proxy,(melchi colected from Abran in person) what does he (CHRIST) want to do with money(tithe) now dat he's in heaven? May b to buy longspan roofing sheet for d OP's section of mansion.
please go back and read malachi 3:8.. open ur brain..cause you just dont have what to say..
Re: Anti-tithers Are Playing On The Intelligence Of Nigerian Churches by Atmosfear: 4:03pm On Oct 14, 2013
In A nutshell

Tithing Bananas

on May 05, 2013 / in Article of Faith 12:46 am / Comments

By Femi Aribisala
According to the scriptures, money is not acceptable as tithe; it has to be food-crops or livestock.

As far as many pastors are concerned, the most important scripture of all is not to be found in the word of Jesus. Neither is it even in the New Testament. That scripture says: “‘Bring all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house, and try me now in this,’ says the LORD of hosts, ‘If I will not open for you the windows of heaven and pour out for you such blessing that there will not be room enough to receive it.’” (Malachi 3:10).

This scripture is drummed repeatedly into Christians on Sundays. However, the only time Jesus mentioned tithing in scripture, he pointed out that it was not a weighty matter of the law. (Matthew 23:23). Hebrews says people only receive tithes “according to the law.” (Hebrews 7:5). It then insists tithing (and everything else under the law) has been annulled: “The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless.” (Hebrews 7:18-19). Nevertheless, mercenary pastors continue to insist on the payment of tithes.

Latter-day Pharisees

Jesus rebuked the Pharisees for keeping part instead of the whole law. (Matthew 23:23). That is what tithe-collecting pastors do today. If we insist our congregants must pay tithes, we must also insist that they keep the rest of the law. James says: “Whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all.” (James 2:10). Therefore, if we insist on tithing, we should also refrain from eating pork. We should stone adulterers, execute homosexuals, kill Sabbath violators and restore blood-sacrifices.

Tithe-collecting pastors counter this by maintaining the payment of tithes pre-dated the law. Here Abraham is cited as the cardinal example of someone who paid tithes before the promulgation of the Law of Moses, as did Jacob, his grandson. However, such arguments are disingenuous.

Before the law, tithing was at best an example but not a commandment. Moreover, pastors fail to mention that Abraham only tithed once in his lifetime. When he did, he did not even tithe his own money: he tithed the spoils of war. He gave ten percent of the plunder he took when he rescued Lot to Melchisedec, king of Salem. But then he did not even keep the rest but returned it (all ninety percent) to the king of Sodom.

For his part, Jacob also tithed only once. He did this in a “let’s make a deal” arrangement he offered to God: “Jacob made a vow, saying, ‘If God will be with me, and keep me in this way that I am going, and give me bread to eat and clothing to put on, so that I come back to my father’s house in peace, then the LORD shall be my God. And this stone which I have set as a pillar shall be God’s house, and of all that you give me I will surely give a tenth to you.’” (Genesis 28:20-22). This kind of deal about accepting God only under certain self-serving conditions should certainly not be a term of reference for any serious believer.

Lies upon lies

The first lie pastors tell Christians is what some have referred to as “the eleventh commandment:” “Thou shalt pay thy tithes to thy local church.” But the bible says no such thing. The storehouse of Malachi was not a church. It was a place where food was kept.

Pastors hide from church-members the fact that money was not acceptable as tithe. The tithe was a tenth of the seed and fruit of the land and of the animals which ate of the land. (Leviticus 27:30-32). That is why God says: “Bring all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be FOOD in my house.” (Malachi 3:10). He does not say “that there may be MONEY in my house.” The food was used to feed the Levites, the poor, widows, orphans and strangers.

Pastors also conveniently fail to teach the biblical tithe. The principles of tithing were not laid down by Malachi. They were laid down by Moses. The study of Moses’ guidelines quickly reveals that the biblical tithe has no application whatsoever to Christians and is mischievously violated by tithe-collecting pastors today.

According to the Law of Moses, the tithe was divided into three allocations. The first year, it was given to the Levite. The second year, it was given to widows, orphans and the poor. The third year, it was eaten in the company of the faithful before the Lord as thanksgiving for his faithfulness. (Deuteronomy 14:22-28). In the seventh year, there was no planting and no reaping and therefore no tithing.

So the next time your pastor asks you to pay tithe, ask him about the seventh-year reprieve. Also ask him if you can give your tithe to the orphanage, or bring it as food items to be eaten in church. Believe me; he will not agree with you because it is your money he is after.

Inapplicability of tithes

Tithing was only applicable to Jews and to the land of Israel. When large populations of Jews lived in Babylon, Ammon, Moab, Egypt, and Syria, these lands became tithe-able lands. However, tithes were not acceptable from strictly Gentile lands. So you need to ask your pastor how come he is collecting tithes in Nigeria.

Servants or slaves who worked on the land did not tithe because the land did not belong to them. Since only agricultural and animal resources were included, a fisherman gave no tithe of his fisheries. Neither did a miner or a carpenter pay tithes, nor anyone from the various professional occupations. So if you are not a farmer or a keeper of livestock, tell your 419 pastor tithing is biblically inapplicable to you.

Moreover, the only people authorised to receive tithes were the Levites. (Hebrews 7:5). So if your Pastor is a “tithe-collector,” ask him if he happens to be a Jew. Remind him that, even though a Jew, Jesus could not receive the tithe because he was not from the tribe of Levi but from that of Judah.

The trick, of course, is for pastors today to claim we are “Levites.” If your pastor is one such dissembler, ask him if he lives as a Levite. Remind him that Levites had no land and did not have private property. Ask him also how he knows he is from the tribe of Levi, which happens to be one of the lost tribes of Israel. Point out to him that even Jewish rabbis don’t claim to be Levites today because all Jewish genealogical records were lost with the destruction of the Temple in AD 70, ensuring that it is no longer possible to ascertain the true identity of Levites.

Therefore, if Jews no longer tithe because the Levites are a lost tribe, how can Christian pastors collect tithes when we are not even Jewish, how much more Levites? If Jewish rabbis, whose terms of reference remain the Old Testament no longer collect tithes, then pastors who insist Christians are under a New Testament have no business doing so.
- See more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/05/tithing-bananas/#sthash.ywcK9wj3.dpuf

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Re: Anti-tithers Are Playing On The Intelligence Of Nigerian Churches by Irises(m): 4:07pm On Oct 14, 2013
christemmbassey: da mbok kpong mkpo oro, kpukpuru mkpo enyene ini, we r nt telling ppl not to give money to d church or for d wk of God, what we r saying is, pastors should stop d threats of malachi 3, tithe being part of the law dat regulated d old covenant was abolished with d levitical priesthood dat it was meant to sustain. There is no single verse in d entire bible where christians are commanded to pay tithe. All we ask is, study a bible, don't let ur bible b replaced by pastor's word. B like d berean christians. Obong, odiong fi.
which one is pastors word..Did pastors write malachi 3.. that is God's word.. so learn from it...BESIDES IF YOU CONDEMN THAT WORD..IT MEANS YOU ARE CONDEMING THE OLD TESTAMENT..DONT FORGET IF THE OLD TESTAMENT WAS NOT TO CHANGE OUR LIFE..I WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN PART OF THE NEW TESTAMENT..
Re: Anti-tithers Are Playing On The Intelligence Of Nigerian Churches by christemmbassey(m): 4:10pm On Oct 14, 2013
Irises: please go back and read malachi 3:8.. open ur brain..cause you just dont have what to say..
is this ur 1st time in religion section? Welcome, take a seat, relax and listen very attentively. Remain blessed.

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Re: Anti-tithers Are Playing On The Intelligence Of Nigerian Churches by Atmosfear: 4:12pm On Oct 14, 2013
PASTORS ROBBING WIDOWS OF THEIR HOUSES

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[Full Name] Ade
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[Subject] We find it very difficult in Nigeria Churches

[Message] Dear Mr. Aribisala,

Thank you very much for talking about paying tithes. This is the main problem I and my children are just complaining about. We started going to Nigerian Church in London since February, we used to attend Catholic Church, but due to our spiritual problems we decided to find a C&S church to go. Honestly, it is worse than you think, most of the sermon every time is based on paying tithe, even after you paid the tithe then they will still circle round the trays for nothing less than five to eight times asking for more money, this and that. I am a widow, I and my children decided we cannot keep up with this. This is real business, even the preacher says even if you do not work you can pay your tithe on your weekly benefits. They make you feel guilty and say you are rubbing God by not paying your tithe. My problem now is how can we find a Nigerian Church in London that will not will be singing tithe, tithe tithe in our ears every time we go to Church?
Re: Anti-tithers Are Playing On The Intelligence Of Nigerian Churches by ojimbo(m): 4:19pm On Oct 14, 2013
On sunday, in church, offering time!!!!!!!! Blessing time!!!!!,
1st= sunday collection
2nd=general thanksgiving
3rd=ministrial support
4th=tithe
5th=group thanksgiving
and atimes they will include
6th= blessing and asurance for the week.
Its is not bad to give to God but the problem in nigeria is that the way our pastors goes about it nowdays is out of hand, Nigerians are always desprate to make money by all means
Re: Anti-tithers Are Playing On The Intelligence Of Nigerian Churches by Goshen360(m): 4:25pm On Oct 14, 2013
Irises: please go back and read malachi 3:8.. open ur brain..cause you just dont have what to say..

Malachi wasn't written to the CHURCH OR CHRISTIANS but national Israel and priests that were commanded to be with the levites and WERE REQUIRED TO BRING TITHE OF TITHES in the days of Nehemiah but they didn't bring tithe of tithes, those are people God was rebuking not the CHURCH. Read Malachi from chapter 1

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Re: Anti-tithers Are Playing On The Intelligence Of Nigerian Churches by Nobody: 4:32pm On Oct 14, 2013
lol!!

if you want to pay the pastor's salary willingly,
who am i to change that?

BUT the last time I checked, God doesn't have a bank account.
tongue tongue

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Re: Anti-tithers Are Playing On The Intelligence Of Nigerian Churches by Goshen360(m): 4:32pm On Oct 14, 2013
Irises: which one is pastors word..Did pastors write malachi 3.. that is God's word.. so learn from it...BESIDES IF YOU CONDEMN THAT WORD..IT MEANS YOU ARE CONDEMING THE OLD TESTAMENT..DONT FORGET IF THE OLD TESTAMENT WAS NOT TO CHANGE OUR LIFE..I WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN PART OF THE NEW TESTAMENT..

The old covenant is abolished and we under a new covenant with the commandments of tithing in the mosaic law. A new covenant is not the continuation of the abolished old, but an entirely different agreement based on Christ finished work.

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Re: Anti-tithers Are Playing On The Intelligence Of Nigerian Churches by Nobody: 4:33pm On Oct 14, 2013
plaetton:

A fraudster is a fraudster, whether old or young, whether carrying the bible or a magic wand.
The reason that corruption has become a way of life i Nigeria is because we are shy to call a spade a spade, a fraudster a fraudster.

Tithe is fraud.
That is why we have 5 churches per street in lagos.
Everybody wants to partake of this very lucrative fraud that is legitimized by the selective and prejudiced interpretation of scripture.

If tithe was not a fraud, the pentecostal fraudsers would duly give account of tithe collections and details of what charitable work they do with it for the benefit of members or the general public.

I suspect that you are living off tithe, so your lively hood is been threatened.

Poor you.
Like you said, you cannot fool people all the people all the time.

lol

but yet WE are playing on their intelligence...riiiight! grin
Re: Anti-tithers Are Playing On The Intelligence Of Nigerian Churches by christemmbassey(m): 4:37pm On Oct 14, 2013
ojimbo: On sunday, in church, offering time!!!!!!!! Blessing time!!!!!,
1st= sunday collection
2nd=general thanksgiving
3rd=ministrial support
4th=tithe
5th=group thanksgiving
and atimes they will include
6th= blessing and asurance for the week.
Its is not bad to give to God but the problem in nigeria is that the way our pastors goes about it nowdays is out of hand, Nigerians are always desprate to make money by all means
pls lets all study their bibles. 1. Sm say they pay tithe bc Abraham paid to melchizedek. Now, questionssad1) how many times did Abraham pay tithe in his life time? Did Abraham pay tithe from his salary/income or war loot? Abraham also performed animal sacrifice, do u also perform animal sacrifice? Abraham commited adultery and got Ishael, do u do same? Tro out their days in Egypt, did d jews pay tithe b4 d law? 2. Sm pple also say they pay tithe bc God commanded d jews to tithe in d law of Moses. Ok, just one question, where in d law did God command d children of Israel to pay tithe of money from their salaries/wages/income from fishing, carpentry, blacksmithing, or any skill related income every week/month, end?

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Re: Anti-tithers Are Playing On The Intelligence Of Nigerian Churches by Nobody: 4:37pm On Oct 14, 2013
Zikkyy:

You got this right. expect your red card anytime soon smiley
Anti-tithers are always the losers na :all 11 players of anti-tithers.Oya take red card
Re: Anti-tithers Are Playing On The Intelligence Of Nigerian Churches by whitecat007: 4:38pm On Oct 14, 2013
I don't tithe to any church cos I do not belong to one, but I give more than tenth of my income to those who need it, guess what I reap so much blessing cos in this world you get as much as you give. If you pass by a neighbor or anyone in need without dropping that envelope containing your tithe, its not Christianity
swtchicgurl:

Thank you my sister, after much talking, i can only pray for the anti-tithers and to challenge to tithe if they won't see results! it is well.

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Re: Anti-tithers Are Playing On The Intelligence Of Nigerian Churches by GlorifiedTunde(m): 4:40pm On Oct 14, 2013
Dear God2Man, you have spoken well.

I am a die-hard tither and I will keep tithing till Jesus comes; giving tithe is as easy as breathing for me, just like my father "Dr David O. Oyedepo"

But you have to know this is what Christ called "Persecution" of Christians. They wont stop, its the TRUTH.

If not on this thread, you'll meet such confrontation elsewhere.

When you tithe the penny you have for years and God decides to bless you abundantly, they'll say its "STOLEN MONEY" or "JUJU"... its all persecution my brother, and you have to be ready for more of it as God increases you.

As for me o, I'll keep tithing my way up to the peak, let those who wont keep struggling with devourer and reproach, they will soon run to Church.

I dont have too much time arguing with them sha, but anyone who speaks profane against my Jesus o, before He (Jesus) judges the person, I reign my judgement on such person first....

Someone had to shut the hell up on NL after it became spiritual battle of words, he thought I was a "sissy christian"


God Bless You Jare
Re: Anti-tithers Are Playing On The Intelligence Of Nigerian Churches by Nobody: 4:40pm On Oct 14, 2013
God2man: I am very sad about this forum. I registered 2011, if i am not mistaken, there are over 100 threads on only one topic, TITHE, it is disheartening with the way they called old men of God that are old enough to be their fathers , thieves, fraudster, and that they are teaching nonsense, the Bible says, we should respect elders, there is no courtesy,a good christian must have the fruit of the spirit, up till now, i keep asking, are they Christians or Atheist? Because a good christian will not call old men of God thieves, it is not possibe, but this is in the dictionary of Anti-tithers. It is what you respect that comes into your life, if you want to grow old, you should respect your elders in the Christiandom, they are not Jesus, but they are the respresentatives of God on earth

There are more than enough topics in the Bible, i beg all of them to stop this overflogged, overdebated, tithe issue on nairaland, in fact, the moderators should delete any topic on Tithe, it is a bad thing for this forum to fight against what the whole churches in Nigeria stood for, i mean paying of tithe, i understand that some churches may not preach about tithe, one thing is sure, they will NEVER stop anybody from paying tithe to them. They will accept it, directly or indirectly.

The question is why are people so desperate to stop tithing from all churches, this is an exercise in futility, a waste of time, an insult to Nigerian churches, and it is like they are playing on our inteligence.

You can deceive one person at a time, but it is difficult to deceive everybody at the same time. If you think that you are smart and you know Bible, i think as a wise person, you should know that other people are smart, wise, intelligent and have a great knowledge about the Bible.

This is the scenario, i believe a smart person that comes to this forum with his theology will take a great disposition and humble himself to listen to opposing view, but this is not the case on nairalan, they will insult you, call you names and make you to hate the forum.

The owner of the forum may think this argument is favourable to him, but he has forgotten that what goes round comes around, it is counterproductive, very soon people will not like to visit this forum again.

Anti-tithers on nairaland have been adopting different strategies to achieve their aims.

1. They used different ID's

2. They twist the scripture.

3. When they lost the arguement, they will result to insult.

4. They are very cunny.


A word is enough for the wise.

God bless all my brethren on this forum.

God2man.
mehn You're so on point, i got locked in an arguement on tithe once, it was so annoying because they don't even understand the bible passages they quoted... I tried to tell them that the ministers are the substitutes for the priests of old...very silly points that they bring up, It's foolishness, but to them is wisdom.

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