Elliotwiz1: good one, but even TB Joshua that gives freely has been criticized... Instead of focusing on the things that make you a true christian, You've decided to look unto the things that don't matter...if you like continue eating your tithe, It's your choice... Peace out

Bidam: was Jesus a pharisee? YES..Do pharisees pay tithe? Yes.Was Paul a pharisee? Yes..Do pharisees pay tithe? YES. Jesus fulfilled the law.You don't need a prophet to tell you these things.Use your brain?

christemmbassey: it is wrong and sin,bc, when u pay tithe, it means u've rejected d priesthood of Jesus, to u Jesus has nt died, u are still in ur sin. When u pay tithe in response to malachi 3:8-12, it means d finished work of jesus is nt adequate to give u those things u're expecting from ur tithe payment, u r like Esau, who d bible refer to as 'a profane person', who rejected his birthright and went for a plate of garrin soup.

christemmbassey: paying tithe in christianity is wrong, infact, it is sin.

Bidam: [size=15pt] was Jesus a pharisee? YES[/size]..Do pharisees pay tithe? Yes.Was Paul a pharisee? Yes..Do pharisees pay tithe? YES. Jesus fulfilled the law.You don't need a prophet to tell you these things.Use your brain?

Alwaystrue: Ephesians 2:15
by abolishing the law of COMMANDMENTS EXPRESSED IN ORDINANCES, that he might create in himself one new man in place of the two, so making peace,

MOSES SPEAKING HERE:
Deuteronomy 12:1,5-7, 13-14,32
1 These are the STATUTES AND ORDINANCES that you must carefully observe in the land that the LORD God of your ancestors has given you to possess every day that you live on the earth.
5 But unto the place which the Lord your God shall choose out of all your tribes to put his name there, even unto his habitation shall ye seek, and thither thou shalt come:

6 And thither ye shall bring your burnt offerings, and your sacrifices, and your tithes, and heave offerings of your hand, and your vows, and your freewill offerings, and the firstlings of your herds and of your flocks:
7 And there ye shall eat before the Lord your God, and ye shall rejoice in all that ye put your hand unto, ye and your households, wherein the Lord thy God hath blessed thee.

13 Take heed to thyself that THOU OFFER NOT thy burnt offerings IN EVERY PLACE THAT THOU SEEST:

14 BUT IN THE PLACE WHICH THE LORD SHALL CHOOSE IN ONE OF THY TRIBES, there thou shalt offer thy burnt offerings, and there thou shalt DO ALL THAT I COMMAND THEE

32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it

GOD SAYS IN THE FINAL BOOK OF THE OT:
MALACHI 3:8-10
8 Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In TITHES AND OFFERINGS
9 Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation
10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it

JESUS SAYS:
Matthew 23:23
"What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Hypocrites! For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest income from your herb gardens, but you ignore the more important aspects of the law--justice, mercy, and faith. YOU SHOULD TITHE, YES, BUT DO NOT NEGLECT THE MORE IMPORTANT THINGS.

PAUL SAYS:
I Corinthians 9:13-14
13 Don't you realize that those who work at the temple get their food from the temple? Don't those who help at the altar get a share of what is on the altar?
14 In the same way, the Lord has commanded that those who spread the Good News should earn their living from the Good News

As Abraham gave tithes and offerings to God in appreciation of God's blessing. Children of Abraham tithe and give God offerings to appreciate what God has given them and still God blesses with more. God is indeed faithful!

Alwaystrue:
14 For it is evident that our Lord arose from Judah, of which tribe MOSES SPOKE NOTHING concerning PRIESTHOOD.
15 And it is yet far more evident if, in the likeness of Melchizedek, there arises another priest
16 who has come, not according to the law of a FLESHLY COMMANDMENT, but according to the power of an endless life.
17 For He testifies: “You are a priest forever According to the order of Melchizedek.”
18 For on the one hand there is an annulling of the FORMER COMMANDMENT because of its weakness and unprofitableness,

Zikkyy:



Thank you Candour.

Goshen360: Ladies and gentlemen, brothers and sisters, the storehouse is not church, It's an insult to the church Christ died for to be called a STOREHOUSE and devourer is nothing but ants, insects and crops eater or crops eating insects.

Please, get a bible concordance and look up the word meanings of devourer and storehouse.

Alwaystrue:
Numbers 3:5-12
5 And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying,
6 Bring the tribe of Levi near, and present them before Aaron the priest, that they may minister unto him.
7 And they shall keep his charge, and the charge of the whole congregation before the tabernacle of the congregation, to do the service of the tabernacle.
8 And they shall keep all the instruments of the tabernacle of the congregation, and the charge of the children of Israel, to do the service of the tabernacle.
9 And thou shalt give the Levites unto Aaron and to his sons: they are wholly given unto him out of the children of Israel.
10 And thou shalt appoint Aaron and his sons, and they shall wait on their priest's office: and the stranger that cometh nigh shall be put to death
11 And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying,
12 And I, behold, I have taken the Levites from among the children of Israel INSTEAD of all the firstborn that openeth the matrix among the children of Israel: therefore the Levites shall be mine


Numbers 18:6-7
6 Behold, I Myself have taken your brethren the Levites from among the children of Israel; they are a gift to you, given by the Lord, to do the work of the tabernacle of meeting.
7 Therefore you and your sons with you shall attend to your priesthood for everything at the altar and behind the veil; and you shall serve. I give your PRIESTHOOD to you as a gift for service, but the outsider who comes near shall be put to death.

Levites MADE without an oath but Christ Made with an oath....A priest from the tribe of Judah not of the Levite that Moses spoke of...

Hebrews 7:20-21
20 And inasmuch as He was not made priest without an oath 21 (for they have BECOME priests WITHOUT an oath, but He with an oath by Him who said to Him: “The Lord has sworn And will not relent, ‘You are a priest 6forever According to the order of Melchizedek’ ” ),

He who has ears will hear.

I Corinthians 9:13-14....In the same way hath the Lord commanded....

alexleo:

Lies. Its NEVER a sin. You have no proof to call it a sin.

Joagbaje:

It only shows there's something special to God about tithing . If not satan will not fight it so hard. Just as judas fought over the perfume on Jesus claiming he was fighting for the poor.



You are right , by their fruits you know them . Their problem is not tithe but rather a relationship with the holy spirt. It will tame the tongue. Truth is spoken in love.

2 Timothy 2:24-25
And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;



It's a sign of the last days . How many of them are under any pastoral leadership .as I keep saying their problem is beyond tithe . It's a spirit of rebellion .

Jude 1:8-10
Yet these false teachers carelessly go right on living their evil, immoral lives, degrading their bodies and laughing at those in authority over them, even scoffing at the Glorious Ones. Yet Michael, one of the mightiest of the angels, when he was arguing with Satan about Moses 'body, did not dare to accuse even Satan, or jeer at him, but simply said, "The Lord rebuke you." But these men mock and curse at anything they do not understand, and like animals, they do whatever they feel like, thereby ruining their souls.

Christian have many disagreement over many issues , you don't have to insult people because you don't agree with them. That's satanic.

Goshen360:

Alwaystrue:

The fleshly command that made only a certain tribe priests while others could not be come near or be put to death, was what was abolished in Hebrews 7:18. Jesus arose in the likeness of Melchizedek (Hebrews 7:14)

Tithes/offerings did not make or ordain the priesthood, God had prior said that tithes were His before He in a later chapter gave all the tithes to the Levites for the service which they serve.

How the law that was weak and unprofitable and that made nothing perfect is now termed as tithe shows the level of carnality we have on display here.

For those who are willing to understand the bible, do your proper study and see that the whole book of Malachi is like the Revelation of the Old testament (as we see in the New testament).

It highlights everything that God did not like, his judgements on those who don't help even the widow, orphans, those who break the convenant of marriage and also prophesied of John the baptist and Jesus Christ coming so that the earth would not be smitten with a curse. This just showed making the the levitical priesthood as only priests did not make anything perfect, was weak and unprofitable.
Thus was the level of sin that was prevalent then. Just do your study.

Alwaystrue: Examples of least of our brethren is not only the poor alone as we often think. It is anyone we are in position to feed, clothe, visit etc:

Matthew 25:34-37,40
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me


Least of the brethen is anyone from poor, needy, widow, ministers of God, family, friends, 'enemies', your workers....anyone you are in possession to help at any time. Loving our neighbour....nothing is substituted for the other....let us reach out to all as much as lies with us.

1. EMPLOYEES, WIDOWS and ORPHANS
Malachi 3:5
5 “At that time I will put you on trial. I am eager to witness against all sorcerers and adulterers and liars. I will speak against those who cheat employees of their wages, who oppress widows and orphans, or who deprive the foreigners living among you of justice, for these people do not fear me,” says the Lord of Heaven’s Armies

James 5:4
Look! The wages you failed to pay the workers who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord Almighty



2. THE POOR
Proverbs 19:7
Whoever is generous to the poor lends to the LORD, and he will repay him for his deed



3. DISCIPLES/PEOPLE IN MINISTRY
Mark 9:41
For whosoever shall give you a cup of water to drink in my name, because ye belong to Christ, verily I say unto you, he shall not lose his reward

Philipians 4:14,18
4 Nevertheless, you have done well to share with me in my affliction
18 18 But I have all, and abound: I am full, having received of Epaphroditus the things which were sent from you, an odour of a sweet smell, a sacrifice acceptable, wellpleasing to God

Malachi 3:10
Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

I Corinthians 9:4,14
4 Do we not have the right to eat and drink?
9 For it is written in the Law of Moses: “Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain. Is it about oxen that God is concerned?
10 Surely he says this for us, doesn’t he?
14 In the same way, the Lord commanded that those who proclaim the gospel should get their living by the gospel



4. FAMILY
I Timothy 5:8
But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel

Isaiah 58:7
7 Share your food with the hungry, and give shelter to the homeless. Give clothes to those who need them, and do not hide from relatives who need your help



5. 'ENEMIES'
Romans 12:20
Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head


6. HUNGRY, OPPRESSED, IMPRISONED
Isaiah 58:6-7
6 No, this is the kind of fasting I want: Free those who are wrongly imprisoned; lighten the burden of those who work for you. Let the oppressed go free, and remove the chains that bind people
7 Share your food with the hungry, and give shelter to the homeless. Give clothes to those who need them, and do not hide from relatives who need your help



This is the truth of the message.

Akshow: I bet u are a pastor @op and 'biz' is slow dis days. Ur topic should be 'churches are playing on d intelligence of Nigerian tithers'.

Alwaystrue: Examples of least of our brethren is not only the poor alone as we often think. It is anyone we are in position to feed, clothe, visit etc:

Matthew 25:34-37,40
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me


Least of the brethen is anyone from poor, needy, widow, ministers of God, family, friends, 'enemies', your workers....anyone you are in possession to help at any time. Loving our neighbour....nothing is substituted for the other....let us reach out to all as much as lies with us.

1. EMPLOYEES, WIDOWS, STRANGER and ORPHANS
Malachi 3:5
5 “At that time I will put you on trial. I am eager to witness against all sorcerers and adulterers and liars. I will speak against those who cheat employees of their wages, who oppress widows and orphans, or who deprive the foreigners living among you of justice, for these people do not fear me,” says the Lord of Heaven’s Armies

James 5:4
Look! The wages you failed to pay the workers who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord Almighty



2. THE POOR
Proverbs 19:7
Whoever is generous to the poor lends to the LORD, and he will repay him for his deed

Luke 14:13-14
13 But when you give a feast, invite the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind,
14 and you will be blessed, because they cannot repay you. You will be repaid at the resurrection of the just



3. DISCIPLES/PEOPLE IN MINISTRY
Mark 9:41
For whosoever shall give you a cup of water to drink in my name, because ye belong to Christ, verily I say unto you, he shall not lose his reward

Philipians 4:14,18
4 Nevertheless, you have done well to share with me in my affliction
18 18 But I have all, and abound: I am full, having received of Epaphroditus the things which were sent from you, an odour of a sweet smell, a sacrifice acceptable, wellpleasing to God

Malachi 3:10
Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

I Corinthians 9:4,14
4 Do we not have the right to eat and drink?
9 For it is written in the Law of Moses: “Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain. Is it about oxen that God is concerned?
10 Surely he says this for us, doesn’t he?
14 In the same way, the Lord commanded that those who proclaim the gospel should get their living by the gospel



4. FAMILY
I Timothy 5:8
But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel

Isaiah 58:7
7 Share your food with the hungry, and give shelter to the homeless. Give clothes to those who need them, and do not hide from relatives who need your help



5. 'ENEMIES'
Romans 12:20
Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head


6. HUNGRY, OPPRESSED, IMPRISONED
Isaiah 58:6-7
6 No, this is the kind of fasting I want: Free those who are wrongly imprisoned; lighten the burden of those who work for you. Let the oppressed go free, and remove the chains that bind people
7 Share your food with the hungry, and give shelter to the homeless. Give clothes to those who need them, and do not hide from relatives who need your help



This is the truth of the message.

shachris:

You just concluded the whole thing. You should give to the poor, the needy, the widows, that is the Gospel of Christ. And not to your pastors bishops. Beside, pastoring should not be a full time Job. Paul was a Evangelist yet he did other works to sustain himself. The pastors themselves should give(or pay tithes which ever you call it) to the poor and the widow around them. Collections should be collected in the church and used to provide food and other things to poor church workers and church members. That was how the early churches practiced it.

Goshen360:

Yes, I have freedom to participate in whatever thread I choose to. Against such there is no law.

Goshen360: Ladies and gentlemen, brothers and sisters, the storehouse is not church, It's an insult to the church Christ died for to be called a STOREHOUSE and devourer is nothing but ants, insects and crops eater or crops eating insects.

Please, get a bible concordance and look up the word meanings of devourer and storehouse.

Elliotwiz1: they Jews today don't say tithe because they believe in Judaism, their beliefs are different. And tithe is paid to a someone who is spiritually higher than You're, who was higher than Jesus when he was on earth?? No one, so he need not pay any tithe.

truthislight:


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