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Re: Nigeria Speaks-out Against Same-sex Marriage At The UN by Sagamite(m): 10:04am On Nov 08, 2013 |
ccollins: Are you thick? Who told you I don't know the history of how SA legalised homosexuality? This is not the answer to what I asked you. What I asked you was: Some African countries? Can you name them? How has SA started to "practice" homosexuality? |
Re: Nigeria Speaks-out Against Same-sex Marriage At The UN by ccollins(m): 10:10am On Nov 08, 2013 |
MR.SANITY: Helloooo, we are just having a peaceful debate here which does not accomodate a biased and sentimental idiocy outcry... Nigerians may brag about being moral but we have the best records in double standards |
Re: Nigeria Speaks-out Against Same-sex Marriage At The UN by ccollins(m): 10:31am On Nov 08, 2013 |
@sagamite ,it is true that many african countries are yet to accept homosexual marriage, some have even gone to the extent of making same sex marriage a 'offence' but I must also notify the good fact that there is a tacit liberality for ssm in some african countries that have neither ways brought any form of laws against ssm due to the rational fact that a open confab where various proponents can argue the recognition of the legal acceptance of homosexuality in their country like what is going on in ghana |
Re: Nigeria Speaks-out Against Same-sex Marriage At The UN by Sagamite(m): 10:50am On Nov 08, 2013 |
ccollins: @sagamite ,it is true that many african countries are yet to accept homosexual marriage, some have even gone to the extent of making same sex marriage a 'offence' but I must also notify the good fact that there is a tacit liberality for ssm in some african countries that have neither ways brought any form of laws against ssm due to the rational fact that a open confab where various proponents can argue the recognition of the legal acceptance of homosexuality in their country like what is going on in ghana Which countries? Name them. |
Re: Nigeria Speaks-out Against Same-sex Marriage At The UN by ccollins(m): 11:32am On Nov 08, 2013 |
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status_of_same-sex_marriage This could expound what I am vividly potraying.. Under the african context,not all african countries forbid it or impose sanctions and penalties.so stop masquerading your self in a delusion that apart from south africa,it is frowned upon by all african countries, as the stats shows that some african states do not totally go against Same-sex marriage, No recognition of same-sex couples Same-sex sexual activity illegal ,Not Enforced or unclear..... |
Re: Nigeria Speaks-out Against Same-sex Marriage At The UN by ccollins(m): 11:40am On Nov 08, 2013 |
The charity’s director of faith and social development, Reverend Ijeoma Ajibade, said: "This legislation denies LGBT Nigerians their fundamental rights. By claiming it is about outlawing same-sex marriage, the parliament is deliberately misleading people. "Not a single group in my home country has asked for gay marriage. They ask only for the same rights to freedom from discrimination, personal liberty, human dignity and privacy that all Nigerians are entitled to under the constitution." Bisi Alimi, a Nigerian gay rights activist and one of the founders of the Kaleidoscope Trust, told Sky News: "On behalf of Nigerian LGBT and our straight allies, families and friends, I strongly condemn this outrageous act from Nigerian lawmakers and demand that we challenge them against this blatant infringement of the fundamental human rights of already vulnerable and at risk group." |
Re: Nigeria Speaks-out Against Same-sex Marriage At The UN by Sagamite(m): 11:47am On Nov 08, 2013 |
ccollins: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status_of_same-sex_marriage ROFLMAO! So you think because countries like Mali, Chad, Zaire, Congo etc do not have laws recognising anything homosexuals that implies they are "tacitly liberal" and are "beginning to practice homosexuality"? You are a fooooool! You think it is me you can use that useless pro-homosexual propaganda against. Or you think I don't know homosexual campaign groups try and control the content of wikipedia to ensure they brainwash kids searching for information by displaying data in a pro-homosexual and "increasing acceptance of homosexual" ways? How do you think the person kids defending homosexuality were brainwashed? Go to those countries and bend your yansh for another man and let someone find out. Your only regret would be not having selected the kind of inflammable liquid you wanted to be used on you and leaving it to the whims of the mob. 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria Speaks-out Against Same-sex Marriage At The UN by ccollins(m): 12:16pm On Nov 08, 2013 |
Sagamite: Again,you acted a schizophrenic role here perfectly,you tell me how homosexual campaign groups control wikipedia by posting the truth that is it only sa that completely practises gay-marriage.... Stop being a self-hating facist retard and be objective for once.... Also a lynching mob strikes out the place and morality of the law and order. If an angry mob would bring assault and death on a gay who wants his rights respected ,then the society there has no justification in all ramifications. Lastly, none of us pro-homo are gullible and campaigning for their freedom is a good cause in any country that truly practices democracy,I rest my case |
Re: Nigeria Speaks-out Against Same-sex Marriage At The UN by ccollins(m): 12:24pm On Nov 08, 2013 |
Sagamite: Again,you acted a schizophrenic role here perfectly,you tell me how homosexual campaign groups control wikipedia by posting the truth that is it only sa that completely practises gay-marriage.... Stop being a self-hating facist retard and be objective for once.... Also a lynching mob strikes out the place and morality of the law and order. If an angry mob would bring assault and death on a gay who wants his rights respected ,then the society there has no justification in all ramifications. Lastly, none of us pro-homo are gullible and campaigning for their freedom is a good cause in any country that truly practices democracy,I rest my case |
Re: Nigeria Speaks-out Against Same-sex Marriage At The UN by Sagamite(m): 12:38pm On Nov 08, 2013 |
ccollins: You are a person! Go to Wikipedia and see how pro-homosexuals try and use psychology to promote homosexuality. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_by_country_or_territory How come any criteria that is pro-homosexual is given a green tick and any that disapproves of homosexuality is given a red fail? Why is it not a simple "Yes" and "No"? How come the term "discrimination" is used on all the pages? How come they term homosexual rights as "human rights" on all the pages when that is not a universally accepted category? How come Uganda's profile has a homosexual rights section? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uganda Or you think some of us don't understand psychology? When you change this, there is someone that changes it back under ONE WEEK. Anyone should go and try and see. I just don't have the time to be changing things but I will encourage many Naija people to sensibly change these things. Change "human rights" to "homosexual rights", change "discrimination" to "disapproval", change "tick symbols" to "Yes/No" etc so Wiki moderators can accept the change and not call it vandalism. Some of us have been successful in getting wikipedia to change some of the propaganda. Before ALL African wikipages had this section copied and pasted propagandishly on them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Senegal#Senegal.27s_obligations_under_international_law_and_treaties "Obligations under international law and treaties". We had to make sure we argued that there was no international obligation that exist before wikipedia removed it from almost all pages. Someone has changed Senegal's own again. Words of Propaganda to brainwash impressionable person kids. 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria Speaks-out Against Same-sex Marriage At The UN by ccollins(m): 1:53pm On Nov 08, 2013 |
U are very myopic and dense in your views,how can you accuse and make a victim of wikipedia false propaganda which you are yet to proof convincingly.should we go pragmatically into various african countries laws and treaties of which I am certain that more than 10 are mute on homosexuality. Blaming wikipedia for any error or influence they bring shows how nostaglic you are... Repeatedly,you take advantage of the pitiable minorities(homosexuals) by altering words like discrimination and human rights.fyi, homosexual groups would never be the first guilds to fight for their rights and sooner or later,they will get it |
Re: Nigeria Speaks-out Against Same-sex Marriage At The UN by Sagamite(m): 1:55pm On Nov 08, 2013 |
ccollins: U are very myopic and dense in your views,how can you accuse and make a victim of wikipedia false propaganda which you are yet to proof convincingly.should we go pragmatically into various african countries laws and treaties of which I am certain that more than 10 are mute on homosexuality. Blaming wikipedia for any error or influence they bring shows how nostaglic you are... Repeatedly,you take advantage of the pitiable minorities(homosexuals) by altering words like discrimination and human rights.fyi, homosexual groups would never be the first guilds to fight for their rights and sooner or later,they will get it You are a person! Tell me how it is an international obligation to accept homosexuality. Keep dreaming you will get it. You will get it one year after the first church is built in Mecca. |
Re: Nigeria Speaks-out Against Same-sex Marriage At The UN by UyiIredia(m): 3:35pm On Nov 08, 2013 |
ccollins: U are very myopic and dense in your views,how can you accuse and make a victim of wikipedia false propaganda which you are yet to proof convincingly.should we go pragmatically into various african countries laws and treaties of which I am certain that more than 10 are mute on homosexuality. Blaming wikipedia for any error or influence they bring shows how nostaglic you are... Repeatedly,you take advantage of the pitiable minorities(homosexuals) by altering words like discrimination and human rights.fyi, homosexual groups would never be the first guilds to fight for their rights and sooner or later,they will get it Wikipedia is pro-gay pretending otherwise is simply daft. |
Re: Nigeria Speaks-out Against Same-sex Marriage At The UN by Sagamite(m): 3:51pm On Nov 08, 2013 |
Uyi Iredia: Wikipedia is user-populated, western-moderated. You can make changes to it but the authorised moderators are likely to be from the West and hence pro-homosexual, so your logic must be tight if you want to stop homosexual propaganda otherwise they would block you for vandalism. People should change it sensibly. They shouldn't infuse their own bias and propaganda. |
Re: Nigeria Speaks-out Against Same-sex Marriage At The UN by ccollins(m): 7:25pm On Nov 08, 2013 |
Sagamite: I will use what the cameroon LGBT are saying as an example --- International legal obligations to decriminalize homosexuality As a party to the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR), Cameroon has legal obligations to adopt measures that effectively ensure rights to non-discrimination, privacy, and life. In accordance with the Constitution of the Republic of Cameroon (Constitution) these legal obligations override national law. The Preamble to the Constitution affirms “attachment to the fundamental freedoms enshrined in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, the Charter of the United Nations and The African Charter on Human and Peoples’ Rights, and all duly ratified international conventions.” Article 45 of the Constitution stipulates that “duly approved or ratified treaties and international agreements shall, following their publication, override national laws.” That traditional values must conform to and not displace internationally protected rights is made clear by Article 1(2), which requires Cameroon to “…recognize and protect traditional values that conform to democratic principles, human rights and the law.” Article 347bis of the Penal Code contravenes Cameroon’s duties under the ICCPR and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR) to ensure non-discrimination and privacy. Articles 2(1) and 26 of the ICCPR prohibit discrimination on the basis of, inter alia, “sex” which the United Nations Human Rights Committee (the “Committee”) has interpreted as encompassing sexual orientation.[1] Therefore the above noted articles of the ICCPR prohibit discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation. |
Re: Nigeria Speaks-out Against Same-sex Marriage At The UN by ccollins(m): 7:33pm On Nov 08, 2013 |
Deeply-embedded homophobic and transphobic attitudes, often combined with a lack of adequate legal protection against discrimination on grounds of sexual orientation and gender identity, expose many lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) people of all ages and in all regions of the world to egregious violations of their human rights. They are discriminated against in the labour market, in schools and in hospitals, mistreated and disowned by their own families. They are singled out for physical attack – beaten, sexually assaulted, tortured and killed. And in some 76 countries, discriminatory laws criminalize private, consensual same-sex relationships – exposing individuals to the risk of arrest, prosecution, imprisonment — even, in at least five countries, the death penalty. Concerns about these and related human rights violations have been expressed repeatedly by United Nations human rights mechanisms since the early 1990s. These mechanisms include the treaty bodies established to monitor States’ compliance with international human rights treaties, as well as the special rapporteurs and other independent experts appointed by the Human Rights Council to investigate and report on pressing human rights challenges. Then,sagamite.... You have no authority of judgement over homosexuals because they too have been victims of rape,torture and other deviant attacks from the so-called moral heterosexuals |
Re: Nigeria Speaks-out Against Same-sex Marriage At The UN by ccollins(m): 7:33pm On Nov 08, 2013 |
Deeply-embedded homophobic and transphobic attitudes, often combined with a lack of adequate legal protection against discrimination on grounds of sexual orientation and gender identity, expose many lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) people of all ages and in all regions of the world to egregious violations of their human rights. They are discriminated against in the labour market, in schools and in hospitals, mistreated and disowned by their own families. They are singled out for physical attack – beaten, sexually assaulted, tortured and killed. And in some 76 countries, discriminatory laws criminalize private, consensual same-sex relationships – exposing individuals to the risk of arrest, prosecution, imprisonment — even, in at least five countries, the death penalty. Concerns about these and related human rights violations have been expressed repeatedly by United Nations human rights mechanisms since the early 1990s. These mechanisms include the treaty bodies established to monitor States’ compliance with international human rights treaties, as well as the special rapporteurs and other independent experts appointed by the Human Rights Council to investigate and report on pressing human rights challenges. Then,sagamite.... You have no authority of judgement over homosexuals because they too have been victims of rape,torture and other deviant attacks from the so-called moral heterosexuals |
Re: Nigeria Speaks-out Against Same-sex Marriage At The UN by Sagamite(m): 7:39pm On Nov 08, 2013 |
ccollins: Deeply-embedded Don't quote moronic shyt to me. Explain to me how it is an international obligation to accept homosexuality. I don't waste my time with intellectually lazy and bereft buggers. |
Re: Nigeria Speaks-out Against Same-sex Marriage At The UN by UyiIredia(m): 7:46pm On Nov 08, 2013 |
Ccollins and Sagamite: At least agree that legislation AGAINST LGBT discrimination especially with respect to violence is guaranteed. I for one will like a situation in Israel. The don't accept gay marriage, despite a history of prominent atheists and humanists (who tend to support gays), but have laws that prevent violence and other forms of discrimination against gays (except in marriage). |
Re: Nigeria Speaks-out Against Same-sex Marriage At The UN by Sagamite(m): 7:51pm On Nov 08, 2013 |
Uyi Iredia: Ccollins and Sagamite: At least agree that legislation AGAINST LGBT discrimination especially with respect to violence is guaranteed. I for one will like a situation in Israel. The don't accept gay marriage, despite a history of prominent atheists and humanists (who tend to support gays), but have laws that prevent violence and other forms of discrimination against gays (except in marriage). There are laws that prevent violence against homosexuals in Nigeria. I am pretty sure there is nothing in Nigeria's statute or constitution that makes it legal to attack homosexual people. They have the same right to physical safety as any other Nigerian under the law. I would hate the Israel situation with a deep passion. Israel is a prominent homosexual destination where it is acceptable to be homosexual in public. I have zero interest in that model. I am more interested in the Queen Latifa model. A model where you are an homosexual and no one harasses you as you strictly keep it private in your private apartment. She does her shyt and I don't give a fck! If you cannot keep it private, then come out to meet the current Nigerian model. 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria Speaks-out Against Same-sex Marriage At The UN by KiKatanga: 7:54pm On Nov 08, 2013 |
Live and Let Live. I've never married a gay, why should I care if a gay does? |
Re: Nigeria Speaks-out Against Same-sex Marriage At The UN by Sagamite(m): 7:58pm On Nov 08, 2013 |
Ki-Katanga: So do you agree to homosexuals adopting a child or getting a child procreated through IVF so they can have a family? |
Re: Nigeria Speaks-out Against Same-sex Marriage At The UN by Nobody: 8:01pm On Nov 08, 2013 |
Ki-Katanga: You should care! It's unnatural, unscientific, primitive and dirty. I have nothing against them but they should keep it private. |
Re: Nigeria Speaks-out Against Same-sex Marriage At The UN by 2ruink(m): 8:07pm On Nov 08, 2013 |
Charleboy must hear about this. but seriously how do those ppl enjoy such smful act? |
Re: Nigeria Speaks-out Against Same-sex Marriage At The UN by ccollins(m): 8:14pm On Nov 08, 2013 |
Sagamite: I am just speecheless,thought you were totally against the liberty of homosexuals,I was just promoting their protect human right and their inalienable port to privacy.. Or you just became a little objective in order to be sardonic and get a clear glimpse of what lgbt was all about |
Re: Nigeria Speaks-out Against Same-sex Marriage At The UN by Sagamite(m): 8:17pm On Nov 08, 2013 |
ccollins: You are a person! Next time read what people put down instead of widely throwing moronic arguments in your desperate attempts for approval and acceptance. |
Re: Nigeria Speaks-out Against Same-sex Marriage At The UN by ccollins(m): 8:21pm On Nov 08, 2013 |
Prof Corruption: Mere double standard and a shameful view towards intricate issues of dire importance... What if I said prostitution,rape,incest( all mostly and dominantly practiced in the heterosexual world) is primitive ,unnatural and filthy... I am sure no one would blame me |
Re: Nigeria Speaks-out Against Same-sex Marriage At The UN by Sagamite(m): 9:01pm On Nov 08, 2013 |
ccollins: If you said so, you will be wrong because it is not unnatural. And primitive and filthy is not illegal. |
Re: Nigeria Speaks-out Against Same-sex Marriage At The UN by KiKatanga: 9:11pm On Nov 08, 2013 |
Sagamite: If they can afford the child and bring the child up properly, Yes I do. I've seen plenty of parents with more children than they can afford. I've seen parents who starved their daughters to feed their sons. I've seen parents who didn't send their children to school. I've seen parents who beat and insult their kids. I've seen parents disown or even kill their children, claiming they were "witches" or "demons". And every single one of them was a heterosexual couple. Compared to that, I can't think of how a gay couple could do anything worse. |
Re: Nigeria Speaks-out Against Same-sex Marriage At The UN by Sagamite(m): 9:19pm On Nov 08, 2013 |
Ki-Katanga: Okay, I get your logic. "I have seen some bad things, so any other bad thing that is not as bad is okay". Thank God we will never let people with your kind of thinking forming policy. |
Re: Nigeria Speaks-out Against Same-sex Marriage At The UN by KiKatanga: 10:43pm On Nov 08, 2013 |
Sagamite: What's "bad" about same sex relationships? Gays have done a huge amount for society most of the time whilst being persecuted. Hating people because of something as trivial as their sexuality doesn't make you godly and it doesn't make you Christian. Jesus judged no-one, condemned no-one spoke ill of no-one. Jesus was not gay yet he never spoke ill of sodomites, I am not gay and I choose to do the same. Live and let live. As humans we can support each other and work together, love each other and strive to live our lives better, or we can turn on each other, divide and condemn each other. For me, it's the simplest choice. 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria Speaks-out Against Same-sex Marriage At The UN by Sagamite(m): 11:15pm On Nov 08, 2013 |
Ki-Katanga: Just make sure you keep your silly arguments abroad. E no get market for Nigeria. |
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