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About Sap? by otesy: 10:30pm On Jul 09, 2008
Please I am interested in SAP so I'd like to know what it's about, how to obtain SAP training and what's particularly in high demand in Nigeria. Also, is there any training like SAP audit? Thank you for your response,
Re: About Sap? by ogb5(m): 1:18pm On Jul 10, 2008
SAP is a Suite of Software used by many World class companies to manage their business. Its made of Several Modules covering specific areas of the business like Contracting and Procurent, Plant maintenance, Finance e.t.c.

SAP is customised for each company that wants to use it. With regards, to SAP training, most companies I know that use SAP in Nigeria brought in foreigners to do the training. They trained a few of their staff who inturn trained others. There might be somewhere where you can get the training at a fee, but am not sure of a place, You could download some materials online but you will not be able to run the training without a functional SAP database.

I will post some link if I get the time to source for them.

You ask if there is training like SAP Audit. SAP covers every aspect of a business that runs it. Its all encompassing and brings about great transparency and Controls in business.

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Re: About Sap? by Jaychuks(m): 2:42pm On Jul 10, 2008
Thanks for this explanation.
Re: About Sap? by otesy: 12:52am On Jul 11, 2008
Thank you so much. I appreciate the response,
Re: About Sap? by BonHomme(m): 7:44am On Jul 11, 2008
smiley
Re: About Sap? by BonHomme(m): 7:47am On Jul 11, 2008
Do you know any company in Nigeria that has implemented SAP. I know Accenture specialises in its implementation but i dont know any of their clients. Kindly post a list of such companies. Thanks.
Re: About Sap? by ejehtochi(m): 8:48am On Jul 11, 2008
i KNOW OF NIGERIAN BREWERIES, THEY HAVE LAUNCHED AND IMPLEMENTED SAP. gUINNESS NIG WILL SOON COME ON BOARD WITH SAP.

THE SOFTWARE AS OGB5 SAID IS USED BY WORLD CLASS COMPANIES. iF YOU VE COME ACROSS SOFTWARES LIKE MAXIMO AND SUN, YOU WILL HAVE AN IDEA WHAT SAP WILL LOOK LIKE. ITS THE, I THINK, THE HIGHEST VERSION OF SUCH PROGRAMMES. ITS A BOMB AND VERY ACCURATE DATABASE SUITE FOR PROCUREMENT,ACCOUNTS ,MAINTENANCE AND BUDGET MONITORING.
Re: About Sap? by manoy(m): 2:06pm On Jul 11, 2008
Re: About Sap? by ghm: 10:48pm On Jul 18, 2008
Shell, Totalfinaelf to add to the list,
Re: About Sap? by eduaustin(m): 11:00am On Jul 19, 2008
To Add to the list of companies using SAP--- ExxonMobil uses it.
As for the training a friend of mine that works with ExxonMobil said his colleague took the training in South Africa for a cost of about 4M Naira, that here in Naija i think in Abuja, it goes for about 2M Naira Plus. I can find out from my friend that name of the center in Abuja were the training is done and also the center in South Africa. Thks
Re: About Sap? by BonHomme(m): 7:38pm On Jul 22, 2008
@edu_austin, ghm and ejehtochi

Thanks for the info. I guess one has to take SAP more seriously in naija.
Re: About Sap? by A40(m): 8:11pm On Jul 28, 2008
I am really keen on learning that stuff as soon as i am done with my OCP exams.They do it at NIIT dont know how much exactly but its pretty expensive
Re: About Sap? by JJay1(m): 10:59am On Aug 19, 2008
otesy:

Please I am interested in SAP so I'd like to know what it's about, how to obtain SAP training and what's particularly in high demand in Nigeria. Also, is there any training like SAP audit? Thank you for your response,

There is SAP for every aspect of a business lifecyle, including audit. The SAP module is called SAP SOX - Sarbanes Oxley. Highly lucrative in the US
Re: About Sap? by kiwi992(m): 2:34pm On Aug 19, 2008
Hi All,


Talking about SAP, yes, the explanation given is correct.  I just need to elaborate on what's already been said.

I have a solid hands-on experience in using the SAP R/3 4.6C software, as well as implementing the SAP R/3 4.6C IDES software on my desktop (at home), whilst preparing for the SAP Financials Consultancy course, a few years ago, before I was involved in a serious motorbike accident. 

SAP is a German enterprise resource planning (ERP) product.  The company is based in Waldorf.  It is a world-class product, to say the least.  A great but very complex product with well over one thousand and twelve (1012) modules in it.  These modules span from BASIS, Financials, Logistics, APO, Business Warehouse, SAP Projects, Sales and Distribution (SD), Materials Management (MM), Customer Relationship Management (CRM), Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) and so on, as as well as various industry solutions such as Gas, Oil, Chemicals to name but only a few.  You name it and SAP has got it.  Newer products are constantly being added whilst others have been dropped, due to the emergence of new technology.  

Back in 2004, I did a write-up about RFID at SAP's Discussion Forum, as the technology was new then (even though old in origin).  I would say that I was, at that time, considered to be the RFID guru (but not anymore), as the technology is getting mature.

As I said, I have solid hands-on experience in implementing SAP R/3 4.6C IDES on my PC, in preparation for the mySAP Financials Consultancy training. 

In my own opinion, the SAP Consultancy course as run by SAP Academy is far too short to enable the participant acquire the necessary skills to pass such a demanding examination.  You can definitely pass the exams if you take your time to train for it at home.  However, just remember that you would need to acquire the all-important hands-on skills before you can even dream of passing it.  So, here's what I suggest that you do.

You MUST:

1.  Acquire the necessary HANDS-ON SKILLS by using the IDES ECC 6. 

This is a training software as used by the SAP Academies worldwide, to enable course participants acquire the necessary hands-on skills.  It is an actual SAP software but already pre-loaded with live data.  Without this, you will NOT pass the exams!  Be warned that this is not a theoretical exam that you can blag your way through.  You need to have the practical experience of using the SAP R/3 software.  Take it from me because I know.  All the better, if you have access to SAP at your place of work.   The exams are very hard but you will pass if you adopt the right training methodology.

This is not a course (or exams) for the faint-hearted!!  The rewards are massive when you qualify.  I have a friend that comes to the UK from Malaysia and works as an SAP Consultant and makes mega bucks.  She's here every three months or so.

2.  Use the official SAP Academy training material.

You must beg, borrow or steal them (literally), if you really mean business about training for this certification.  It's always better to learn from the source.  The SAP academy training material are the official course manuals from SAP AG, Germany.

3.  Relevant background

Ensure that you only train on a module that is consistent with your professional or academic background, else you would be wasting your time.

4.  Strong computer skills

This is essential because you'll be customising the IMG - a core element of the SAP R/3 software.

5.  Understanding of business processes

Again, without a solid knowledge and understanding of business processes, you will definitely struggle with SAP R/3.   

Please take note of all what I've said here because I have a first-hand experience of this global product.  SAP Consultants are in high demand all over the world, albeit that the demand for such Consultants has somewhat peaked in view of the fact that many western countries are upgrading now, instead of a fresh implementation of the product.  That said, Nigeria would most definitely need SAP Certified Consultants to implement the product in those big industries.

I often used to wonder as to why no-one here ever showed an interest in SAP (or indeed, really mentioned it before now).  SAP Certified Consultants are the money men and women of this world.  It is really a worthwhile qualification - far better than any out there.

In the name of Nairaland.




kiwi992.


NB:

The name SAP is pronounced as 'es-ay-pee' (but not 'sap'), if you see what I mean.

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Re: About Sap? by A40(m): 3:53pm On Aug 23, 2008
@kiwi
I heard the exams are really hard! my friend who's been a DBA for 4 years has failed it twice and he is a guru on Oracle i would love to know if its suited for every IT professional and if it is related in anyway to DB management
Re: About Sap? by kiwi992(m): 3:23pm On Aug 25, 2008
Friend,


Yes, the SAP Consultancy exams are, indeed, very hard.

Think about it - they've got to be extremely hard because SAP is not like your typical run-of-the-mill software.  The software costs millions of pounds to purchase - around fifteen to twenty million pounds, in addition to the army of Consultants needed to implement the product.  This is why it is most essential that the Consultant must be highly skilled to configure or customise the SAP R/3 software.  Needless to say, the rewards are far-reaching once the one qualifies as an SAP Certified Consultant.  The world is your oyster in the true meaning of the word.  Globe trotting and making supa dupa money.

I can tell anyone interested in this certification that the trick to passing the exams is nothing but having lots and lots of hands-on experience with the SAP R/3 software.  There's no getting away from this fact.  This is a must!  The SAP Consultancy exams are not to be sniffed at - it is the mother of all certifications and the most rewarding, without any doubt whatsoever.

One simply can not substitute the so-called Nigerian 'sense of imagination' in place of the crucially important practical experience.  Once the one has acquired the necessary hands-on skills and can confidently customize the IMG or configure a specific module, I would say that the exams are definitely NOT insurmountable.  It all depends on the one's training methodology as mentioned in my initial post on this thread. 

SAP being an enterprise resource planning system, needs to have a database running as a back-end, inorder to provide it with the necessary information that it needs to function.  The installation of a database (for example SAPDB, SQL or Oracle) is therefore a pre-requisite to implementing the SAP R/3 software.

Majority of the global SAP implementations have Oracle database running as a back-end.  The installation of the database only takes about thirty (30) minutes, if that.  However, the actual implementation of the SAP R/3 4.6C IDES with the 4.6D kernel took me nearly twenty four (24) hours on my landscape.  This was only a sandbox, yet, it took me such a long time to implement it.  Now compare the time it would take to implement a full production system comprising a multiple instance with failover, in a disk-array, spanning several servers.  The worst part of it being that you simply would not be allowed to proceed with the implementation if an error occured at any stage of this phase, unless and until the error has been corrected with reference to the error logs.   

The only bearing that your friend's Oracle skill has on an SAP R/3 implementation is in the areas of Oracle database administration, tablespace re-organisation, sizing, optimisation and troubleshooting but nothing more (sorry!).  However, this function is normally performed by SAP BASIS Consultants who specialise in the implementation of SAP R/3 and its administration.  The rest of the work is pure SAP.  As an example, although I am not an Oracle database guy, I was able to perform those functions on my SAP R/3 implementation whilst preparing for the SAP Financials Consultancy exams. 

As previously indicated, there are other databases that can also be run at the back-end of SAP R/3, such as SAPDB and SQL.  I believe that a lot of the future implementations of SAP would most probably utilise those two types of databases as opposed to Oracle, in view of the recent issues that SAP had with Oracle.  That's just my speculation but I don't think I'll be far too wrong on that. 

As far as its suitability to an IT professional goes, I can tell you that SAP is suited to everybody, as long as the one trains on the module that's relevant to the one's academic or professional background.  Relevancy is the operative word here.  My professional and technical background in IT (Cisco Security Expert, CCNA, MCSE and building computers) coupled with reading up on SAP Projects and Oracle database management, helped me a great deal, during the pre-implementation, implementation and post-implementation phases as well as customising the IMG.  My background in professional accountancy (CIMA finalist) helped me in understanding the business processes as well as being able to configure the SAP FI/CO (financials and controlling) modules.  So, you can see that the one's background is highly important.

Maybe you could pass on this information to your friend and good luck to him/her next time.




kiwi992.

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Re: About Sap? by ulohomuno: 5:11pm On Aug 26, 2008
kiwi99,

i am interested, in SAP my background is project management
this is my email address; ezeuloho@yahoo.com.

please can you reach me.

thank
Re: About Sap? by kiwi992(m): 6:56am On Aug 27, 2008
Ulo,


Sorry pal, I do NOT get in touch with anybody privately.

This is a public forum and I would prefer fellow Nigerians to benefit from the info as well, not just one person.  I would assume that you've got enough pointers from me to get you started if you are interested in SAP.

If you've got any question to ask me, just fire away here.



kiwi992.
Re: About Sap? by ulohomuno: 7:07am On Aug 28, 2008
kiwi992

OK this is my background - civil engineering (first degree), MBA and PMP/PRINCE2. recently precisely in March 2008 at was at abuja sap office to get info on the best modules that best suite my background, and i was made to understand that there is a projetc managememt module, i did consult some guys who are into SAP and they somehow scared me on the demand. and they said i should go in for MM or PP. so somehow i defer the idea till i get a one on one interaction with an expert.

in as much as I want to go into the project management module i need to understand and be sure of te demand since it is a capital intensive investment.

can you enlighten me more on the SAP project management module and the demand.

thank you
Re: About Sap? by kiwi992(m): 11:19am On Aug 28, 2008
Ulo,


First of all, you mustn't let anyone scare you off from studying the module that interests you the most.  Let's take a close look at your background:


1.  Civil Engineering

The suitable module for this has got to be one of the industry solutions that SAP offers.  Another one that I feel might be suitable for you is Plant Maintenance (PM).  Now, this is a very worthwhile module and highly in demand over here in the West.  Advanced Planning and Optimisation (APO) - using infocubes. 
 

2.  MBA

Strategic Enterprise Management (SEM), Treasury (TR), Materials Management (MM), Production Planning (PP), Sales and Distribution (SD), Human Resources (HR).  All of these seem to fit well with your background.


3.  PMP/Prince2

SAP Projects without a doubt.

Being that you already are PMP/Prince2 qualified, I would assume that you have the necessary PRACTICAL EXPERIENCE in Project Management.  If you have such real-life experience, I can't see any problem with your getting hired as a Junior SAP Projects Consultant, once you've passed the consultancy exams.

The sad thing about Nigeria is that a lot of our people are employed in jobs that have got nothing whatsoever to do with their academic or professional skills.  In view of this, they lack the real-life experience that's most crucial for the advancement of their careers.  It's the classic 'fitting a square peg in a round hole' scenario.  Then again, people need jobs so they tend to take any that comes up, inorder to feed their families.  What a waste of talent.  Sad really!   

That said, the SAP R/3 software costs several million pounds and as such, any implementation would be extremely time-critical and within budget.  A lot of these experienced SAP Projects Consultants have been fortunate-enough to have had five or six SAP projects under their belt.  I'm not quite sure as to what it would be like, for a newly-qualified. 

Just to give you an example, my friend, Junaid, who attended NIIT with me in India, fell into an SAP job, being that he was the Network Engineer at the time his organisation was implementing SAP R/3.  Luckily for him, he was at the right place at the right time.  Best part was that I had mentioned SAP to him during our training so he knew what it was all about and seized the opportunity as soon as it arose.  Needless to say, he abandoned being a network engineer and now goes all over the world, implementing SAP - as a BASIS Consultant.  He's currently in Australia.     

Having said all that, I feel you should really assess where your strengths lie the most.  Is it in Civil Engineering, Project Management or business (being an MBA)?  You should also take your work experience into consideration.  What do you really like doing the most?  I mean what you like doing without having to struggle on it.  See what I mean?  You really ought to search your soul.

The money that you would make, being an SAP Certified Consultant shouldn't be the driving factor.  It's all about enjoying the work that you do.  The rest come second.

Hope this helps.




kiwi992.

NB:

Some of the global SAP Academy partners actually send their trainees to work on SAP sites as long as the student passes the Consultancy exams, thereby giving them the field experience that they require.  This is the key reason as to why participants in the SAP Academy courses do a CASE STUDY, by drawing upon course-participants from the different modules, exactly as in a real-life SAP implementation.  Just enquire about it with the SAP Academy, if there is any in Nigeria.

Ensure that they are genuine, before committing your hard-earned cash.  Please avoid all the cowboy trainers.  I hear there are many in Nigeria.
Re: About Sap? by capuchi: 12:36pm On Aug 28, 2008
kiwi992 which country do you think is cheaper and good for learning sap mm or sap pm.
Also amongst the two which one do u think is demanded the most?
And can u specify a sap academy that you know that sends thier trainees to work on sap sites to have hands on job experience after passing the exam?
Thanks
Re: About Sap? by DisGuy: 3:16pm On Aug 28, 2008
capuchi:

kiwi992 which country do you think is cheaper and good for learning sap mm or sap pm.
Also amongst the two which one do u think is demanded the most?
And can u specify a sap academy that you know that sends their trainees to work on sap sites to have hands on job experience after passing the exam?
Thanks

I think it should be the other way round people!! Let YOUR COMPANY INVEST IN YOU!! STOP WASTING YOUR OWN MONEY!
with SAP the best thing is the company sending you out to learn it so it is specific to their need, there's no point doing a module that is not really relevant to the company you work for!!

I do not know if the employers are the ones obsessed with certificates or employees
After you first degree, all other certificates or training should be the subsidised by your employer!
to me that's the ideal situation! that way you are studying a relevant course specific you your career
all these ican,acca,PMP,cibn blah blah might not be relevant especially if you are not employed!!
Re: About Sap? by kiwi992(m): 5:03pm On Aug 28, 2008
Capuchi,


I think you should look towards INDIA for the training.

As a matter of fact, right now, India is the biggest market for SAP implementation in the whole world.  This is so because the market for SAP in the West has peaked, in view of the fact that the wave for SAP R/3 started in the early 90's.

Next is the Middle East - Bahrain, Saudi and Dubai in particular.  Big, massive SAP implementation projects going on there right now.   

In the not-too-distant future, I believe Nigeria would see the next big wave of SAP implementation.  South Africa has had its fair share.  China is just kicking-off but you need to be able to speak Mandarin or Cantonese.  There's practically no room for foreigners there.  Australia and New Zealand - don't even bother.  The Aussies are damn racists.  The kiwi's are better.  I'm convinced that Nigeria would be next, in view of the big companies operating in the country.   

In India, places like New Delhi, Mumbai and Bangalore spring to mind for the training.  All these cities have official SAP Academies.  Bangalore is the IT capital of India so, that would most definitely be the best place to go.

Indeed whilst in New Delhi, I did come across some Nigerians who spoke excellent Hindi!  Surprise, surprise!! 

The cost of training in India (in an official SAP Academy) is something like twenty five to thirty thousand rupees.  Their money is just as cheap as the naira, so don't let that frighten you.  You would definitely pay a lot less in a training organisation that teaches SAP.  However, just remember that these are NOT official SAP Academies.  There's a big difference, if you see what I mean.   

It is the OFFICIAL SAP Academies out there that usually send their attendees to SAP sites to work.  Some of them even offer them employment as Junior SAP Consultants in their area of expertise, as long as the one passes the Consultancy examinations.  Just do your research.

Pakistan is also another country where the cost of training is cheaper as well.  Malaysia and Singapore to some extent.  However, training in those two countries is nowhere as expensive as it is in Japan, Germany, UK or USA.  In the UK, it costs thousands of pounds - too bloody expensive if you ask me.

Materials Management (MM) and Plant Maintenance (PM) - which one is more in demand, you asked.  My answer is to look at the job ads for SAP Consultants in those modules.  That would give you a much better idea than my telling you as to which one I consider to be better. 

Having said that, you should ensure that you train into a module that's consistent with your professional or academic background.  Please don't forget.


DisGuy:

I can understand what you are saying but what can the one do if an employer is not willing to invest large sums of money on an employee?  Chances are that the employee would leave the organisation as soon as the one gets those highly sought-after skills. 

Just to say that ICAN, ACCA and CIMA are excellent professional accountancy qualifications.  I can most definitely vouch for that because I used to work as a Company Accountant here in the UK, even though a CIMA Finalist.  However, I can tell you that the earnings that an SAP Certified Consultant makes is a lot higher than that from the above three professional qualifications put together!  I don't know much about PMP but I understand it is a good qualification as well.



kiwi992.

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Re: About Sap? by okeyz(m): 8:16pm On Aug 28, 2008
hi kiwi992
thanks fornur highlights on SAP u definitely command a lot of technical know how on the subject,i want to ask which SAP module can be deployed in the oil and gas industry,my background is production engineering and i am thinking of going for the PMP training/certification but i want to know if its possible to do SAP other than PMP or are both certification related,i need ur iinput on this, and can one get the training here in nigeria ?, or online/
thanks for your input.
Re: About Sap? by kiwi992(m): 8:41pm On Aug 29, 2008
Oke,


Thanks but I only acquired the technical expertise because I happened to implement SAP R/3 4.6C IDES on my purpose-built PC at home.  Simply by regularly practising the hands-on skills in course of my preparation for the SAP Financials Consultancy certification, I became adept at the product, especially on the BASIS and FI/CO modules.  You just need to 'play' with such a complex product as SAP R/3 in the comfort of your own home, in order to get a good grasp of it.  There is no other way, in my own view.      

There are industry solutions that are available from SAP for various industries such as Oil, Gas, Chemicals and so on.  Please enquire with SAP or visit their website. 

Coming from a Production Engineering background, I would suggest you take a good look at the Production Planning (PP) module.  I'm sure that would suit you to the ground.  There might be other suitable modules as well.

Assuming that I understood your question right, PMP hasn't got anything to do with SAP.  It's a generalist project management certification.  However, the SAP Projects module is specifically geared towards SAP implementation. 

Here's an example:

A few years ago, I strongly argued with a PMP professional at SAP Discussion Forum as to why it stands to reason that an SAP Projects Consultant is unquestionably, the ideal person to manage an SAP project, as opposed to such a project being managed by a PMP.  I gave him the scenario whereby a Mercedes Benz SLK Kompressor Convertible owner would prefer to take his car to a Mercedes Benz-trained mechanic for servicing, as opposed to taking it to a general mechanic who could service most cars but without the specialist knowledge required to service such high-value cars.  I hope you see my point.

Sorry but I do not live in Nigeria, so, my answer is that I'm not sure as to whether such training is offered in Nigeria or not.  Please ask SAP.  I hear they've got an office in Abuja or better still, visit their website.



kiwi992.
Re: About Sap? by BigBashiru: 7:37pm On Aug 30, 2008
Hi kiwi992,

You are the man!!!

I need to ask you the following questions:

I am currently working in SAP testing and interested in learning SAP. But the thing is its is waaaay too broad. I am currently working with the book: SAP R/3 Black Book by Dream Tech Software Team which is a good book.

I have an Electronic Engineering degree and some experience as an SAP test analyst. I want to specialize in SAP HR. Is this a good area? I have been playing with SAP for about 6 months now doing business as usual stuff with periodic config stuff. How do you suggest i approach mastering HR with my background.
Re: About Sap? by kiwi992(m): 2:12pm On Sep 01, 2008
Bash,


Thanks. 

Indeed, SAP R/3 is like an ocean, in terms of its vast size.  As I've always said, you name it and SAP R/3 has got it.

As far as the book you are using is concerned, I haven't heard of it or indeed, come across it.  My philosophy is that if anybody wishes to learn SAP, then the one must learn from the source.  By that, I mean that the one must use the SAP Academy official course material, no more, no less.  I don't personally have time for any third party book on SAP R/3 when I could write a book on one or two technical/functional areas.  If I were you, I wouldn't settle for anything less.

As it is, you've already got a head-start by having access to the SAP R/3 product at your place of work, thus, are able to play with it.  The hands-on skills are extremely important for one to acquire.  You just need to build on it through certification, as you are planning to do.   

As you could tell from my various postings on this thread, I am an advocate of training into an area of expertise in SAP R/3 that clearly maps to the one's academic or professional background, so that the one wouldn't have to struggle unnecessarily.  Can you see my point?

That said, if it's HR that you wish to train into, so be it, as long as you know what you are getting yourself into.  The HR module has thirty five (35) key functional areas.  Some of the key areas covered on the course involve the following:

Configuring HR Master Data
-  enterprise structure
-  personnel structure
-  personnel sub-group grouping
-  employee sub-group grouping
-  feature (TARIF).
   
Configuring Time Recording
-  holiday calendar
-  daily work schedule
-  planned work schedule
-  TMW (time ID)

Payroll Configuration
-  schema
-  factoring
-  processing class
-  valuation
-  concept
-  technical information

Document Flow

Recruitment

Personnel cost planning

Solution Manager
-  roadmap
-  methodology

IMG
-  project IMG
-  what it provides

Reporting
-  logical database
-  which data is kept in which logical database

Please remember that this list is by no means exhaustive.  Just some key areas for you to be aware.

Sorry but I'm not able to tell you as to whether this is a good module or not.  I think the best thing to do is to search the job ads for SAP Certified Consultants on this specific module. 

Personally, I would, with your background, take a good look at the SAP industry solutions such as utilities (SAP-IS Utility) or Radio Frequency Identification (RFID).

That said, since it is HR that interests you, then the best approach is like I've always preached - use the official SAP Academy material and practise the hands-on skills by using the IDES ECC 6.0.

Finally, I would strongly advice you to please try and read in-between the lines of my posting.  Enough said.

Hope this helps.



kiwi992.
Re: About Sap? by JJay1(m): 3:37pm On Sep 01, 2008
kiwi992:

Ulo,


2.  MBA

Strategic Enterprise Management (SEM), Treasury (TR), Materials Management (MM), Production Planning (PP), Sales and Distribution (SD), Human Resources (HR).  All of these seem to fit well with your background.


Can I please point out that if you don't have the necessary Accounting training or experience, you will struggle with Treasury module of SAP, SAP TR is a further ninche specialty of the SAP FICO modules and many FICO Consultants even struggle with the Treasury sub-module. Of all the SAP modules, SAP strongly recommend that for FICO, you should have the necessary relevant experience, you can be trained in HR, SD, MM from scratch without any special prior expertise in those areas but not same for SAP FICO or Treasury

I think Kiwi992 has given very good insight here but please note that SAP is not same as many other disciplines in IT its an ERP and a completely different ball game and I have seen many Nigerians here in the UK thinking they can have a quick fix training from many of these cowboy trainers and drive a supercar the following week. SAP is a career and not a 'rave of the moment' (fad)

I have been an Independent SAP Certified Consultant for 8 years speacialising in FICO, PS and Investment Mgt, TR, and IS Oil &Gas with involvement in at least 15 SAP implementations between the EU, USA and Middle-East and know that SAP is definitely not a piece of cake, I only pray more Nigerian companies can implement the software so naija is not left far too behind in global developments in business solution technology.
Re: About Sap? by Raheemoho: 11:37pm On Sep 22, 2008
sad



Oga Kiwi evening oh,

just reading your discussions with Ulo i just heard you talk to me, cos ulo, i and countless nigerians are having the same background and issues oh!


My background is Electrical Electronic Enginering but i doubt if i have really done anytin engineering or electrical oh, i currently work in IT in a football

house (NFL to be precise) and i know now i need a career shift.


I done some business developments and help write business proposals and do presentations. Ehen i almost 4got, i am currently doing an MSc in ICT but

to me its far from what it should be oh so i dont count it.


Am considering BW and am tinking i can stomach FICO, i still av eyes on MM, CRM, SD or SAP IS-Oil (naija get oil now!!!).


i dont know how to start, but i want to do sumtin that makes me know am professional i know sumtin and distinguishes me from the rest.

Am motivated because i want to be able to compete with my contemproraries anywhere in the world and i know i can do it if i jsut put my mind on it.

What do you suggest with my lack of should i say cognate work experience!! Where can i get stuff to buy to start as like u said i was in the abuja office

dis morning and the schedule the gave me has courses for 3 to 5 days.

Also how can i get access to the "SAP R/3 4.6C IDES " you talk about alot"
Re: About Sap? by Raheemoho: 11:55pm On Sep 22, 2008
Oga Kiwi

Wats your take on Netware
Re: About Sap? by kiwi992(m): 9:46pm On Sep 23, 2008
Hi Raheem,


As you know, I've already said all that needs to be said about SAP R/3 Consultancy Certification in my previous postings on this thread. 

However, as regards where to get hold of the SAP Academy material, you'll need to break this coded link.  I'm only giving it out for the benefit of my fellow Nigerians who are interested in SAP.  Nigerians must never be left out in this all-important ERP technology.

Go here:   lxxt://aaa.eqehivjsvyq.gsq/jsvyqhmwtpec.tlt?j=132

As I said, this is a coded link.  You WILL need to decode this link using a key value.  It won't be easy but they say, where there's a will, there's a way.  You must use your resourcefulness and ingenuity to break this code.  I will NOT help in any way. 

You WILL get eveything you need for the SAP Consultancy exams from the above-mentioned coded link, once you've deciphered it.  I mean everything.

By the way, SAP R/3 4.6C IDES has been superceded by IDES ECC 6.0.  This is what you need for the hands-on experience in preparation for the Consultancy exams.  In addition to that you would need to have a robust computer to implement it. 

You could also buy a pre-installed ECC 6.0 from e-Bay.  Personally, I don't subscribe to the idea of buying a pre-installed IDES because you will never learn about SAP implementation unless you actually take the time to implement it yourself.  It won't be easy but you will reap a lot of rewards if you choose to follow this route because this would make you become technically proficient at SAP R/3 and indeed, far more knowledgeable than the average Consultant who only got trained on a functional module.

You will be taking the Consultancy exams under the PACAP scheme.  So, you do NOT need to attend the SAP Academy for the course.  Indeed, the official course is far too short (3-5 days' duration), considering how important the certification is.  It would only suit someone who has been working with SAP R/3 on a daily basis for around three years, and so, is deemed to have the all-important practical experience except that he or she is now training for the Consultancy certification.  Then again, the course is extremely expensive, and so, not a lot of people could afford such exorbitant fees.  I'm sure you did find out that on your visit to SAP's offices in Abuja.

Give you an example, I attended NIIT, in India for a ten-day Windows NT course many, many years ago.  It was my first foray into professional IT.  I went to India with nothing in my head and came back to the UK, still with nothing in my head!!  Why? - because the course was too short.  How's that for a waste of money, eh?

In fact, I had to start all over again, on my own, learnt how to build computers, then built two computers specifically for the NT course, networked them and then used the Microsoft official curriculum material to train myself at home, in the evenings, after work.  It took me a while but I passed all the eight papers that I took, in flying colours because I had the hands-on experience.  Moreover, I took my time to train properly.  This is so, so important for everyone to remember. 

The same training methodology was adopted for the SAP Consultancy course - implementing the SAP R/3 4.6C IDES on my purpose-built robust computer, using SAP official academy course material and then practising the hands-on skills over a fairly long period of time to become proficient at it.   

Novel Netware is no more - dead, caput, finished!!  It's been dead for the past ten years or so.  Novel used to be the number one inter-networking software but that was yonks ago.  Its downfall being Windows NT which uses GUI as opposed to commands that Novel used.  Forget about Novel - don't even bother.

Finally, I would think most carefully about FI/CO before going for it because you need to come from an accounting background to study that module, as with every module in SAP, else you would be wasting your time and money.

All the best.




kiwi992.
Re: About Sap? by Raheemoho: 12:05am On Sep 24, 2008
wink

This must be a sign for me to go into SAP proper, oga Kiwi, thanks i got it!!!!!!


I meant SAP NetWeaver and not Netware.

I was at SAP Abuja again today ( i had left a mail and the i got a call and was invited for a short talk)

The education resource person advocated NetWeaver (actuall EP 200) advising i go in first for Portal system administration to really learn the technology and hopeful have an experience in implemetations and thereafter pick any MM, SD, CRM, BI etc. Wat do yah tink as someone who has 1st hand experience.

Anyway she gave me an assignment and i think i want u all interested to also do:

go to "http://www.sap.com/services/education/index.epx"

read everything you see and can, get to know SAP, it would help you decide on what you wana do!

Oga Kiwi, as i have decoded, e be like say we wld be pally pally ohhhhhhhh, anyoda tin 4me

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