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Re: Why Does God Allow Satan To Influence Mankind? by Oghieme: 12:14pm On Nov 10, 2013 |
Why questioning GOD? |
Re: Why Does God Allow Satan To Influence Mankind? by Secularist: 12:14pm On Nov 10, 2013 |
Maximus85: God did not create us like robots. He gave us a free will to choose from wrong or right. Your decision is yours. Obey God or disobey him. Sometimes i wonder if you guys can actually hear yourselves. SMH. |
Re: Why Does God Allow Satan To Influence Mankind? by Nobody: 12:16pm On Nov 10, 2013 |
victorazy: Stvpid question. Ur simply asking why teachers set exams to their students.sharrap dia....who told u a xtian can not ask such questions. I ve been tryin to ask myself this question. So dont fuckin tel us dat a xtian cannot ask. As some intelligent people ve rightly pointed out, this is beyond human understanding. Man is a rational being nd he has right to ask questions. Smtimes wen i ask my colleagues sm questions abt religion dat is bothering me, they would reply nd say "are u sure you are a xtian?" am a xtian ofcourse. I hav a lot of questions to ask God in d end time. |
Re: Why Does God Allow Satan To Influence Mankind? by Secularist: 12:18pm On Nov 10, 2013 |
harde2lah: SMH. In other news, i dey find wife O! |
Re: Why Does God Allow Satan To Influence Mankind? by victorazy(m): 12:22pm On Nov 10, 2013 |
rudedough: Very gud question 1 Like |
Re: Why Does God Allow Satan To Influence Mankind? by Pukkah: 12:23pm On Nov 10, 2013 |
@johnsonjosbles: This is another way of using human mind to describe God. 'Don't challenge God' as if God is interested in anyone's challenge. In trying to explain God, people like you end up belittling Him. The truth is no human mind really understands God. |
Re: Why Does God Allow Satan To Influence Mankind? by sunkoye: 12:23pm On Nov 10, 2013 |
1st Adam messed up wen he got salvation on a platter of Gold. Second Adam who is God went tru affliction to save mankind. When His time was up. He advised that we will see affliction and troubles but we should not be afraid cos He has overcome the world. |
Re: Why Does God Allow Satan To Influence Mankind? by elite17: 12:24pm On Nov 10, 2013 |
gratieao: God is all powerful. Yet He allows Satan to carry out his deceitful and destructive activities |
Re: Why Does God Allow Satan To Influence Mankind? by Iceman296: 12:24pm On Nov 10, 2013 |
Pukkah:I Guess you are an Atheist Because no sane Christian would think this. We are all Tested one way or the other, You just gotta Accept it. Even Our Lord Jesus was tempted too. Its Just a way of God Knowing our Stance in him and what we Can Choose or Sacrifice to be with him. He is a Jealous God Remember?? |
Re: Why Does God Allow Satan To Influence Mankind? by Nobody: 12:26pm On Nov 10, 2013 |
rudedough:satan is not lucifer. lucifer is a title that means the illuminated or enlightened ones. the bright and morning star. lucifer in the bible is mentioned only once in the book of isaiah the 14th chapter. now if you dedicate time to study that chapter in its entirety, lucifer is not referring to a man but an empire. the empire is BABYLON. this is future prophesy because BABYLON is USA. USA is the lucifer being spoken about in isaiah 14th chapter. so your question is invalid because when AMERICA ( LUCIFER ) started sinning, there was sin rampant all over the world. before USA, there were demonic empires like the greek, medopersian, assyrian, egyptian and ancient babylonian. all demonic empires with their own sinful doctrines and philosophies 1 Like |
Re: Why Does God Allow Satan To Influence Mankind? by texanomaly(f): 12:31pm On Nov 10, 2013 |
obadiah777: satan is not lucifer. lucifer is a title that means the illuminated or enlightened ones. the bright and morning star. lucifer in the bible is mentioned only once in the book of isaiah the 14th chapter. now if you dedicate time to study that chapter in its entirety, lucifer is not referring to a man but an empire. the empire is BABYLON. this is future prophesy because BABYLON is USA. USA is the lucifer being spoken about in isaiah 14th chapter. so your question is invalid because when AMERICA ( LUCIFER ) started sinning, there was sin rampant all over the world. before USA, there were demonic empires like the greek, medopersian, assyrian, egyptian and ancient babylonian. all demonic empires with their own sinful doctrines and philosophiesSmh...you must be a blast at parties... 2 Likes |
Re: Why Does God Allow Satan To Influence Mankind? by Nobody: 12:35pm On Nov 10, 2013 |
texanomaly:oh yes i am. even if i do say so myself lol JK to add to the guys points. this is lucifer that was being spoken about in isaiah the 14th chapter isaiah 14 vs 4 That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say, How hath the oppressor ceased! the golden city ceased! isaiah 14 vs 12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! BABYLON 1 Like |
Re: Why Does God Allow Satan To Influence Mankind? by victorazy(m): 12:36pm On Nov 10, 2013 |
harde2lah: As u rightly said "ur collegues asked if ur a xtian" my brother don't deceive ursef, UR NOT cuz that was a mere qnt every xtian must know. Christianity is not about goin to church my broda is by understanding what ur Father is saying. Satan is purification agent, is God's tool to make u strong. Ok ask ursef 1. why God created a tree den comand Adam not to touch it and 2. He didn't rebuke Sapent during the temptation and 3. why God did not mention Satan but cuxd Adam, Eve and Snake (u no be xtian) |
Re: Why Does God Allow Satan To Influence Mankind? by Nobody: 12:37pm On Nov 10, 2013 |
Busieman: It's illogical to think that President Goodluck would predestine someone to overthrow his Govt in 2015. Nah!! This is your own personal assumptions, it's no where to be found in the bible and it's illogical. 0 Mark No. 2: If Adam and Eve were the only humans on earth, and they gave birth to 3 sons. How did they continue to multiply? Who were their spouse? |
Re: Why Does God Allow Satan To Influence Mankind? by abrafri: 12:40pm On Nov 10, 2013 |
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Re: Why Does God Allow Satan To Influence Mankind? by AdeniyiA(m): 12:43pm On Nov 10, 2013 |
all of God's creations are still subject to him. Lucifer(honour /glory) -as he was then called, is still unconsciously working for his Creator, he's still an instrument in the hands of God. he serves as God's rod to chasten, tries, propels, examines, activates, n quickens His children. he serves as exams body for God's children. nobody likes exams, but it's needed for promotion, elevation and new level. Devil administers the tests /examination but it's marked by God and we are awarded accordingly. Job in d Bible is a very good example. The initial purpose of God is to try us and during the course of the trial, we're tempted of the devil e.g Job was tempted to curse God in his condition(trial of faith) , to make us fail. In summary, no promotion without examination |
Re: Why Does God Allow Satan To Influence Mankind? by Nobody: 12:43pm On Nov 10, 2013 |
rudedough:adam is not one man. adam is a nation of people both male and female. they are called adam because they are made from the ground. adam is a description of how they are made. it is from the hebrew word adamah whch means 'from the ground' genesis 5 vs 2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Does God Allow Satan To Influence Mankind? by Nobody: 12:45pm On Nov 10, 2013 |
obadiah777: oh yes i am. even if i do say so myself lol JK If Lucifer is BABYLON and BABYLON is USA. Your bible quotation means USA fell down from heaven. You really must be fun at parties. |
Re: Why Does God Allow Satan To Influence Mankind? by Caseless: 12:46pm On Nov 10, 2013 |
When devil was about to get evicted as result of his refusal to bow to adam, he asked God for one thing i.e "power" , i mean power to woo or lure people of shaky faith, mislead people and power to enjoy followership frm man. These, God has given to him and God also told him that "u can only mislead those that allow u to". If u are trully for God, devil can never permeate ur heart. U can't be bending religious teachings to favor u and xpect d devil not to find succor in u. Prophet muhammad (s.a.w) was never a victim of devil's antics and he remain the only person the devil cannot assume his shape/form and can never take his 'looks'. |
Re: Why Does God Allow Satan To Influence Mankind? by victorazy(m): 12:46pm On Nov 10, 2013 |
texanomaly:And a muslim the head of Lucifer? no wonder! |
Re: Why Does God Allow Satan To Influence Mankind? by Pukkah: 12:47pm On Nov 10, 2013 |
Iceman296: Yes, I'm not a Christian if your definition of a Christian is an unthinking, dogmatic robot who swallows everything that's repeated to him hook, line and sinker and who is not expected to ask questions on ANYTHING. Yet the Bible encourages people to search for the truth. Can you see how confused you are? Why should I even be surprised? It is confusion or a total lack of understanding that would make someone 'rudely' refer to God as a jealous being. Again, this description is another creation of the human mind. Since men are jealous, then God should also be jealous. God is above all such notions and emotions of jealously, anger, hatred, selective judgement, faith test, etc. What is getting obvious is that people like you don't have a clear answer to people"s increasing questions and rather than admit that they don't know, they resort to using their own human, imperfect minds to teach/tell us about God. Someone even likened God to a teacher while another person compared him to Fasola. 4 Likes |
Re: Why Does God Allow Satan To Influence Mankind? by Pukkah: 12:49pm On Nov 10, 2013 |
caseless: When devil was about to get evicted as result of his refusal to bow to adam, he asked God for one thing i.e "power" , i mean power to woo or lure people of shaky faith, mislead people and power to enjoy followership frm man. These, God has given to him and God also told him that "u can only mislead those that allow u to". If u are trully for God, devil can never permeate ur heart. Devil asked for something and God gave it to him? This explanation is not different from the earlier ones. |
Re: Why Does God Allow Satan To Influence Mankind? by Busieman(m): 12:49pm On Nov 10, 2013 |
rudedough: So why did God create him? Have you forgotten God knows d end from d beginning? |
Re: Why Does God Allow Satan To Influence Mankind? by Nobody: 12:49pm On Nov 10, 2013 |
rudedough:heaven means 'rulership of the world'. and yes all empires eventually fall from heaven as would babylon which is featured heavily in scriptures because it is the final empire of the gentile era before the empire of God is established on earth. after BABYLON there is no more. |
Re: Why Does God Allow Satan To Influence Mankind? by sunkoye: 12:50pm On Nov 10, 2013 |
Pukkah:thank you. The name "God" that God used for Himself was given cos dat is the best way in his wisdom we can wrap our head or understanding of Him. Yet only a pint of Him we know. Every thing we see dat makes us to acknowledge that he is God and Almighty are like a cover up of Who He really is as stated by HabaKuku the prophet. How He will introduce Himself with Angelic generations with higher spiritual understanding is way different for His works in physical realm. I shivers wen I think of Father. I remember the mighty angels that visited daniel. With the angelic powerful presence daniel fainted and could not talk. This is the type of being that fit our own immaginations of what God can be or look like. But see, this is the same angel that would beg us saying" NEARER UNTO MY GOD" my God continue to give us understanding of ways to know him more and more! Amen. |
Re: Why Does God Allow Satan To Influence Mankind? by victorazy(m): 12:51pm On Nov 10, 2013 |
rudedough: U didn't understand the guy. |
Re: Why Does God Allow Satan To Influence Mankind? by Nobody: 12:53pm On Nov 10, 2013 |
obadiah777: adam is not one man. adam is a nation of people both male and female. they are called adam because they are made from the ground. adam is a description of how they are made. it is from the hebrew word adamah whch means 'from the ground' If Adam is a nation of male and females, who was Eve? Did God make Eve from the rib of a whole nation? |
Re: Why Does God Allow Satan To Influence Mankind? by MEILYN(m): 12:55pm On Nov 10, 2013 |
obadiah777: satan is not lucifer. lucifer is a title that means the illuminated or enlightened ones. the bright and morning star. lucifer in the bible is mentioned only once in the book of isaiah the 14th chapter. now if you dedicate time to study that chapter in its entirety, lucifer is not referring to a man but an empire. the empire is BABYLON. this is future prophesy because BABYLON is USA. USA is the lucifer being spoken about in isaiah 14th chapter. so your question is invalid because when AMERICA ( LUCIFER ) started sinning, there was sin rampant all over the world. before USA, there were demonic empires like the greek, medopersian, assyrian, egyptian and ancient babylonian. all demonic empires with their own sinful doctrines and philosophiesTop of the day sire. Please i need to know more about this Lucifer being the USA. Erm , a prophecy right? Which means the USA will be thrown down from heaven when Christ comes?. You said lucifer is Christ? Am not sure but i saw sumtin like dat. And erm i also need some scripture verses pointing the whites aka edomites being in Heaven while Israelites in hell. Have seen it somewhere on one of your threads but i cant just find it anymore. Help ur boy sire. tanks in advance. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Does God Allow Satan To Influence Mankind? by SirTunechi(f): 12:56pm On Nov 10, 2013 |
gratieao: God is all powerful. Yet He allows Satan to carry out his deceitful and destructive activitiesrather than bothering yourself with these kind of questions that makes you loose your faith try prasing GOD, eat good food, study hard , make money and make a family and later when you die and you can ask your Creator what's up. Btw hope you passed your gst(philosophy and logic)? |
Re: Why Does God Allow Satan To Influence Mankind? by Nobody: 12:56pm On Nov 10, 2013 |
victorazy: Maybe you should help your brother in Christ explain better. |
Re: Why Does God Allow Satan To Influence Mankind? by MEILYN(m): 12:57pm On Nov 10, 2013 |
rudedough:Eve is a nation of women now.. Nah wa oo. 1 Like |
Re: Why Does God Allow Satan To Influence Mankind? by Nobody: 12:57pm On Nov 10, 2013 |
rudedough:eve is the female adam. and the whole rib thing is symbolism. scriptures is allegorical, symbolic and metaphoric. 1 Like |
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