daz_york:
...And here is another member of the African self immolation brigade.

It takes high IQ to build a nuclear weapon? Really? Please indulge me - how so?

How much IQ do you need to steal existing knowledge - some of it thousands of years old - from around the world and join it together?

How much IQ do you need to want to develop a weapon whose entire value lies in it never being used?

How much IQ do you need to illegally occupy Southern Africa and steal Uranium from there to use as nuclear fuel?

How much IQ do you need to start and engage in a "World War" which can end all human life as we know it for the sake of empire building? Does that sound rational or intelligent?

The thing is you have swallowed European propaganda and now believe that the smartest person is the one who can create the loudest boom, cause the most destruction, exterminate the most people, take the most slaves, rape the most women, steal the most resources, create the most unsustainable exonomy - that is the European standard of what constitutes "intelligence".
And like a true kaffir bootlicker, you have accepted this warped, insane definition of what constitutes "intelligence". Even the very concept of "IQ", where does it originate from? What does an IQ test measure? What is it based on? What assumptions does it make? Does an IQ test in reality actually measure "intelligence"? Or does it in actual fact measure the ability to score on an IQ test? Is it in actual fact a meaningless, sounding loop created by a dominant culture as a way of attempting to codify its fleeting dominance in hard science?

Always try to think deeply and analyse critically before jumping to conclusions which have been prepared for you.

daz_york:
Your sort of intellectual laziness is a bigger issue. So the attitudes and habits of African leaders define "Africans" - all 1 billion+ of us?

I hate this sort of reductive, lazy reasoning so much. The plural of "anecdote" is not "evidence".
If you put forward an opinion or position, put forward facts, statistics, figures, credible surveys, research, peer-reviewed academic papers to support this position. Don't tell me "Look at this politician who stole xyz Naira...therefore Africans are unintelligent."
What sort of foo.lishness is this?

You also need to learn about your own history, economics and politics before concluding that the actions of those in power in Africa are somehow representative of "Africans" or even that such actions are of their own volition.

The same white people coming on here to post junk "research" and psedo-science supposedly proving your inferiority (and their imaginary superiority) are the ones who select the leaders on the African continent and ensure that they serve everyone else's interests but their own.
Please go read "Confessions of an Economic Hitman" and understand why certain things around you are as they are. Go read up on what happened to decent nationalist African leaders like Patrice Lumumba and Murtala Mohammed who put their people first instead of western commercial interests.

The CIA staged a coup in Congo and had Lumumba dragged into the jungle, hacked into pieces and dissolved in sulphuric acid so that there would be no remains to be buried and so even in death, he could not serve as a rallying point for patriotic Congolese nationalists who wanted their country to develop. Thus Congo, the world's richest country by resources (est $24 trillion) is one of its poorest by GDP with millions of Congolese running to places like France and Belgium. Someone like you will then say that the reason Congo is in a terrible state and Congolese run to Europe is because "Africans lack common sense" neh?

The trouble with a lot of Africans is lack of information. You can see only the men who rule you. You cannot see the men who rule those men. Without this knowledge, you are only seeing a small (and insignificant) part of the picture, and a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

Educate yourself first. Its essential to your survival.

Obi1kenobi: People can post all they want about ancient Egyptian civilization thousands of years ago. The fact remains since the turn of the post-AD era, Africa and the black race are several generations behind the rest of the world. We're a conquered, colonized people who were feeble in the face of European and Arab conquest. They arrived here with barely a few footsoldiers with blazing guns and we capitulated to their might and even sold our people to slavery. Western culture is a dynamic one that always looks to evolve and improve itself. Always looking to explore. Always looking to innovate. African culture is a stagnant, naive, insular culture. It's why the colonial powers caught us napping in our mud huts, oblivious to the rest of the world - unable to even explore the world with our dug canoes. All we can do is cry about how the evil Europeans subdued and subjugated us. Even though we're just as evil. We just lacked their firepower, ingenuity, resourcefullness and boundless ambition.

I don't have all the facts as to who is smarter. It also isn't that important to me cos ultimately, every human being is an individual unto himself. There are smart and dumb people in every race. But you do have to ask yourself why every single white nation on earth all across the globe is more advanced in every measurable indices of development and living than the black nations all around the world from Africa to Haiti. And why the few decent black nations have a white economic and industrial ruling class.

And as a matter of fact, all around Europe and America, standardized IQ tests ALWAYS show the same trends. Asians (especially Japanese, Koreans and Chinese) tend to narrowly edge the Whites with Blacks always being at the bottom (below Latinos, South East Asians, Native Americans etc). I don't believe it's some kind of conspiracy. Afterall, Asians rather than Caucasians usually top the list when the Caucasians could have put themselves top.

Many would call my ramblings "inferiority complex" but I choose not to be in denial. Their being smarter or not smarter ultimately affects little whether you agree or not cos individually, it makes no difference to how smart you are.

Toaskarity: No iq test is reliable..the fact that most are conducted in English..why won't people that have English as first language sound smarter... there is no standard criteria to measure the whole world iq.

edoyad:
What more can I say ?


Okay, China and Japan are Anglophone countries.

An aside ....

kmariko: We have heard it a million times; Africans ( meaning sub-saharan ) are lazy, unintelligent, stagnant, insular, ugly, no culture, stupid, apes, monkeys and all the names you can imagine.,., But the question I ask everytime is WHY THE HELL CANT YOU LEAVE US ALONE.,.,

You came to us we did not come to you, - yet you can't stand us.,.,
Yes you have told us that you are superior in every way, - we agree with you - yet you have to kill, maim and divide us to force it on us. why do you need to kill, enslave me to prove your superiority - Do you have a complex that we are unaware.
Yes I have a low IQ but please leave me the hell alone to develop at my own pace... If you dont like my presence on earth there are a billion planetary bodies out there you can call home with your superior technology.
Please we are very Happy here on our corner of the planetary body called earth... JUST BACK OFF AND LEAVE US THE HELL ALONE

kmariko: We have heard it a million times; Africans ( meaning sub-saharan ) are lazy, unintelligent, stagnant, insular, ugly, no culture, stupid, apes, monkeys and all the names you can imagine.,., But the question I ask everytime is WHY THE HELL CANT YOU LEAVE US ALONE.,.,

You came to us we did not come to you, - yet you can't stand us.,.,
Yes you have told us that you are superior in every way, - we agree with you - yet you have to kill, maim and divide us to force it on us. why do you need to kill, enslave me to prove your superiority - Do you have a complex that we are unaware.
Yes I have a low IQ but please leave me the hell alone to develop at my own pace... If you dont like my presence on earth there are a billion planetary bodies out there you can call home with your superior technology.
Please we are very Happy here on our corner of the planetary body called earth... JUST BACK OFF AND LEAVE US THE HELL ALONE

ba7man: We're saying the same thing. What's different??

They can adopt and modify your invention till it turns into something else.

We need to start showing signs of this in Africa.

kmariko: We have heard it a million times; Africans ( meaning sub-saharan ) are lazy, unintelligent, stagnant, insular, ugly, no culture, stupid, apes, monkeys and all the names you can imagine.,., But the question I ask everytime is WHY THE HELL CANT YOU LEAVE US ALONE.,.,

You came to us we did not come to you, - yet you can't stand us.,.,
Yes you have told us that you are superior in every way, - we agree with you - yet you have to kill, maim and divide us to force it on us. why do you need to kill, enslave me to prove your superiority - Do you have a complex that we are unaware.
Yes I have a low IQ but please leave me the hell alone to develop at my own pace... If you dont like my presence on earth there are a billion planetary bodies out there you can call home with your superior technology.
Please we are very Happy here on our corner of the planetary body called earth... JUST BACK OFF AND LEAVE US THE HELL ALONE

revolt: retrogressive post! Thts xactly y blackmans still cave man bound! Its irks me so bad wen I fink of the fact tht our forefathers couldn't evn documnt our history or nvr developed a form of writing! No single legacy!

Obi1kenobi: People can post all they want about ancient Egyptian civilization thousands of years ago. The fact remains since the turn of the post-AD era, Africa and the black race are several generations behind the rest of the world. We're a conquered, colonized people who were feeble in the face of European and Arab conquest. They arrived here with barely a few footsoldiers with blazing guns and we capitulated to their might and even sold our people to slavery. Western culture is a dynamic one that always looks to evolve and improve itself. Always looking to explore. Always looking to innovate. African culture is a stagnant, naive, insular culture. It's why the colonial powers caught us napping in our mud huts, oblivious to the rest of the world - unable to even explore the world with our dug canoes. All we can do is cry about how the evil Europeans subdued and subjugated us. Even though we're just as evil. We just lacked their firepower, ingenuity, resourcefullness and boundless ambition.

I don't have all the facts as to who is smarter. It also isn't that important to me cos ultimately, every human being is an individual unto himself. There are smart and dumb people in every race. But you do have to ask yourself why every single white nation on earth all across the globe is more advanced in every measurable indices of development and living than the black nations all around the world from Africa to Haiti. And why the few decent black nations have a white economic and industrial ruling class.

And as a matter of fact, all around Europe and America, standardized IQ tests ALWAYS show the same trends. Asians (especially Japanese, Koreans and Chinese) tend to narrowly edge the Whites with Blacks always being at the bottom (below Latinos, South East Asians, Native Americans etc). I don't believe it's some kind of conspiracy. Afterall, Asians rather than Caucasians usually top the list when the Caucasians could have put themselves top.

Many would call my ramblings "inferiority complex" but I choose not to be in denial. Their being smarter or not smarter ultimately affects little whether you agree or not cos individually, it makes no difference to how smart you are.

Uyi Iredia: @ ROSSIKE: living on past glory as you mention shpuld not let us deny the present reality and hamper future endeavours.

Uyi Iredia: @ ROSSIKE: I am a proud black man. I like the acheivements of my people, the Edos, other Nigerians and blacks as a whole, believe it or not I even like our shortcomings or what it's believed to be, our backwardness, for one. But the fact is we are NOT as developed as even Eastern, or Middle-Eastern, talkless of Western nations. Growing economies are words on paper to many folks who still strughle for their daily bread. In our past, white folks would have placed us very low GDP wise. All vanity. Then the average man could eat his pounded yamn and soup, wash it down with sweet palm wine, enjoy lush fields and clean rural air and sleep tight. Our development now is stunted. We, and I, can't help if you think words on paper translate to growth in the real sector.

daz_york:
Ignoramus.
Where did the first written languages originate?

revolt: I never knew Egyptians were blck!! Even aS a bible scholar by now u shud knw who built most of their wonders!! Cos eeryfin went in slow motion after the exodus!!!! Mention one Negro achievmnt!

revolt: I never knew Egyptians were blck!! Even aS a bible scholar by now u shud knw who built most of their wonders!! Cos eeryfin went in slow motion after the exodus!!!! Mention one Negro achievmnt!

ROSSIKE: Shut up and go and get an education. You're an illiterate to be bandying discredited, pseudo-scientific garbage by racists and passing it off as common sense. Who conducts all the so called IQ tests using the "standardised methods" you are talking about? Is it not the same whites and Asians? Was any African involved in setting the "standards"? And you are naive enough to accept that it must be accurate because whites did not always place themselves as no 1. Are you that easily fooled? Fact is you have a stinking inferiority complex whether you wish to acknowledge it or not, and you lack the balls to confront your disease. Talking rubbish about how "we were conquered". Were whites never conquered? Do you have any idea how often black nations conquered white nations in the past? Asians? Does that mean one is smarter than the other? Go and study history so you learn to think like an educated person, not an ignorant self loather. And no. Not every single white nation on earth is more advanced in every measurable indices than every black nation, and those black nations doing well do not necessarily have a white ruling class. So that is a blatant lie. Botswana and Jamaica have no white ruling class. Their standard of living is higher than that of Albania, Kazakstan, Azerbaijan etc. so your points are worthless and borne of ignorance and lack of research. Also many black nations have higher living standards than Asian nations. Ghana has far higher living standards than Bangladesh. Senegal hardly experiences power cuts yet it is a daily occurrence in India. Gabon is a paradise on earth compared to Sri Lanka. Jamaica is heaven compared to Pakistan. Togo is 100 times more stable and productive than Afghanistan. Trinidad is far more advanced than Nepal. Nigeria is far more advanced than Burma. Kenya is heaven compared to Cambodia. Zambia is more advanced than Bhutan. Tanzania is more developed than Yemen. Angola is more advanced than Papua New Guinea. Namibia is heaven compared to Tajikistan. Indians as a whole have been rated poorer than Africans by the latest research. So explain all this in light of your stinking IQ tests.

Aigbofa: There are smart and dumb people in every race. Africans are not less intelligent than any other race, we are just disadvantaged.
The invention of the gun changed everything for Africans, it allowed Africa to be subjugated and exploited for over 400 years.
That is 400 years of free labour and resources for some of the most advanced countries in the world today.

Disadvantaged yes, dumb not by a long shot. One thing that is really holding Africa back is our lukewarm attitude to science and technology. We should embrace it and do away with mysticism and always asking God to solve problems we can solve ourselves.

Nigeria for example wants to become and industrialized country. But our investment in science education is meagre. We've just started to invest in power plants as if we can run an industrialized economy on lanterns.

These are what people see and misconstrued as lack of intelligence, there are smart people everywhere. The people who made the US great for example are from all over the world, including Africans.

Aigbofa: @Obi
Pre colonial Europe was no paradise my friend. There was ignorance, poverty and disease there on a massive scale. I believe the harsh environment they lived in probably jolted them into embracing science more than Africans.
And when the opportunity came to use superior force to subjugate vast lands and exploit them they took it.
Africans were caught napping like a home owner in the middle of an armed robbery.
The effect is still there till today. An example is this obviously racist statistics. We need to take our destiny in our own hands.

Obi1kenobi:
Of course it wasn't a paradise. The industrial revolution led to condensed, filthy, disease ridden urban environments like London at the time. So they simply moved outward, crossing vast seas and were resourceful enough to start anew and create prosperity wherever the went - whether the Spanish and Portuguese to Latin America, or the British to North America and Australia, or Dutch settlers to Southern Africa, or Scandinavians to America etc. It's the culture of problem solving, adventure and continuous evolution.

It is frankly a culture we aren't blessed with. At least, clearly not as much as they are.