boay: Please respond adequately to your punctured arguments Dr Amanda and Epaul

Damitism:

Mister Epaul, that is a grammatical blunder there! Use I'm next time instead of am

Damitism:

Mister Epaul, that is a grammatical blunder there! Use I'm next time instead of am

Epaul: don't we still have this same issue in post utme? It is a known fact that Candidates and kids of well-to-do parents still bribe their way through post utme. Prove to me that since the institution of post utme that universities now admit better candidates! Why do we still have students who can not write a complete a essay, who sort lecturers in our universities? Go to any university admission office and see how admission is being carried out. It is clear that post ume has failed in achieving its aim and such should be cancelled. Go and score 400 in post utme without long legs so to say and let me score 200 but have an uncle who is a friend to the VC of the university. Let's see who they will admit first.

DR. AMANDA:
concerning the issue about students falling into fraudsters on net.

aysuccess99: @DR. AMANDA, do you want to tell me that there's no examination malpractices in JAMB examination?
and secondly, why would you say that universities conduct POST UTME to make money? don't you know that the money charged are used for the arrangement and processing of the exam, why then do you say that POST UTME is now turn to a business venture?

Epaul: don't we still have this same issue in post utme? It is a known fact that Candidates and kids of well-to-do parents still bribe their way through post utme. Prove to me that since the institution of post utme that universities now admit better candidates! Why do we still have students who can not write a complete a essay, who sort lecturers in our universities? Go to any university admission office and see how admission is being carried out. It is clear that post ume has failed in achieving its aim and such should be cancelled. Go and score 400 in post utme without long legs so to say and let me score 200 but have an uncle who is a friend to the VC of the university. Let's see who they will admit first.

Epaul:
Candidates no longer regard JAMB as an exam worthy to be taken
seriously because they feel without Post UTME their JAMB results are
but a miserable piece of paper.

Dr. Amanda:

@aysuccess99, I'm not saying that there are no examination malpractices in JAMB but you'd agree with me that the rate of it in Post UTME is higher than that of JAMB.
To your second question, why will schools sell out more forms than their carrying capacity? Isn't it to gain more money? During the processing and arrangement that the money is spent on, don't you think they have their own commission from it?

Damitism: Should Post-UTME be conducted in Nigeria Universities?

Secondly, conduction of Post Unified Tertiary Matriculation Examination will help many candidates to obtain educational independent and make personal academic achievement(s).

Damitism:

The disadvantages of not conducting the Post Unified Tertiary Matriculations Examination because of the so called "exorbitant fees" for post utme overweighs the little satisfaction of keeping your money that would have been used to register for the Post Unified Tertiary Matriculation Examination(s). For instance, students who cheated in the previous examination(s) and through their fantastic result(s) without the post-utme gained admission will surely suffered the consequences in the future. If at the end, the student find it very difficult to cope in the course he/she chose and later change to a simpler course or he/she is forced by appropriate authorities to change the course, who lose or who is to blame? Of course, the student concerned! He/She must had pay the tuition, accommodation fee, feeding, waste lot of money in practicals and other such things and most painful, his/her precious time, which would at least be one year! Did you just say 'what a waste of resources'. This won't even be the last. Such student will felt so ashamed and have a life-long regretful story to tell his/her generation. All this wouldn't have happen if the post utme had been done. Just as Derek Bok said, "if you think education is expensive, try ignorance."

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Now, I want to ask you a question. Between the cost a student incur during the post utme and the latter "consequences" of not doing the post utme because of the "huge cost" for this examination, which do you think is more expensive?

Damitism: Should Post-UTME be conducted in Nigeria Universities?

This is because this examination enable each school to scrutinize all its aspirants thoroughly on a one-to-one basis. [/color]

Dr. Amanda:

@aysuccess99,
To your second question, why will schools sell out more forms than their carrying capacity? Isn't it to gain more money? During the processing and arrangement that the money is spent on, don't you think they have their own commission from it?

Damitism:

Did you say scoring 400 marks in post utme won't grant a student his/her admission? That's a big lie! Well, maybe you can give us examples of such cases. We're eager to see such institutions.

aysuccess99: i can prove to you that there are more exam malpractices in JAMB, if there no exam malpractice in JAMB, why do students who pass jamb fail postutme? it's because of the fact that they cheated in JAMB and when they don't have the chance to cheat in POST JAMB, they end up failing. Also, let's take for instance, UNILAG whereby it's one student with a computer system, how can their be cheating? Also, in other universities, students are distributed randomly whereby your partner is applying for a course that's different from yours.

Omolola1:

Educational Independence? Explain this further because I'm lost.
Also, if post utme helps candidates gain this 'independence', are you saying other examinations do not?
Personal Academic Achievements, now what does this mean?
Kindly expantiate.

aysuccess99: there's something you must know that there's no exam malpractice in POSTJAMB.It's what you score that would determine your admission. If you say that there's exam malpractice, that shows that you did exam malpractice before you were admitted

Epaul: so what about the malpractice in UNN in 2012? Was that not malpractice?

Omolola1:

Mr. Damitism, could you explain the above?

Omolola1:

And how do candidates who fail Post Utme get admitted into the university?
Now, I ask you, what makes post utme different from jamb when it comes to cheating? Apart from the random distribution and computer-based test. .

Damitism:
This means the post utme allow each universities to test all the aspirants on their own before they give them admission. Other exams bodies do not allow the universities to do this