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Re: Okotie Buys N120m Rolls Royce To Mark Pastoral Anniversary by phayvoursky(m): 1:21pm On Dec 22, 2013
kambo: The poverty mentallity of the average poster here.
The combined cost of his two cars is less than $1m dollars.
This in a wrld where tobacco and porngraphy companies drug barrons cruize around in 3 figure million dollar jets and yatchs . No nigerian pastrs wealth makes international headlines.
Talkg of lootg the tithe and offerg and robbg ppl blind.
Its now impossible for God to prosper his ministers?
This is just a million dollars. Just a million.
And after 30 years..
Sure to a person in d country its a mind buggling sum but thts to ppl here.
Its nothg wen u place d amount on an international wrld scale.
If he stole it let God judge.
Wat wud happen if any pastor was wrth a $100m+ . He'd b lynched. A $1m collection and ppl want to kill themselves with envy.
Is too much for God to bless a man up to tht level?
The devil is givg his own ppl with more thn tht and theyr wrshppg him at d expense of their souls.


U KNOW NOTHING. BY THE TIME U GET TO KNW SOMTIN. THESE PASTORS MUST V WRECKED U BLACK N BLUE.
Re: Okotie Buys N120m Rolls Royce To Mark Pastoral Anniversary by captainobvious: 1:26pm On Dec 22, 2013
am not suprised!!! cool

Re: Okotie Buys N120m Rolls Royce To Mark Pastoral Anniversary by Nobody: 1:32pm On Dec 22, 2013
kambo:

*yawn* here goes a prattling fool foamg in the mouth.
All your post reek of an.al s.tupidity . Frst u wantd to build a hotel cum church, nxt u read a post i made and shot an insult at me , thn this.
Its gud to know your a woman by ur sx. Cuz such shallowness is xpcted. Please stay clear off my threads and posts. You type are energzed to curse and abuse. If u had any content like i said, it wud come out. You wud object intelligently but your mind is filled with scum and as such till kingdom come is unjustified irrational inexplicable garbage tht you can output.
Pathetc jab about the dna thing try harder.

Like your type of content?
Re: Okotie Buys N120m Rolls Royce To Mark Pastoral Anniversary by Amaechi5(m): 1:35pm On Dec 22, 2013
stint: so after 4 pages of rantings, none of you is observant enough to notice that the picture was poorly photoshoped? check the white edges around the image of pastor okotie that shows that the picture was lifted(from where it had white background) and pasted on the car picture! check am yourself before you start to dey rant about nothing.

Ane who told u the car on the pic is the ROLLS ROYCE,i bet he used it as an xample
Re: Okotie Buys N120m Rolls Royce To Mark Pastoral Anniversary by Amaechi5(m): 1:36pm On Dec 22, 2013
stint: so after 4 pages of rantings, none of you is observant enough to notice that the picture was poorly photoshoped? check the white edges around the image of pastor okotie that shows that the picture was lifted(from where it had white background) and pasted on the car picture! check am yourself before you start to dey rant about nothing.

Ane who told u the car on the pic is the ROLLS ROYCE,i bet he used it as an sample/xample
Re: Okotie Buys N120m Rolls Royce To Mark Pastoral Anniversary by kambo(m): 1:39pm On Dec 22, 2013
phayvoursky:


U KNOW NOTHING. BY THE TIME U GET TO KNW SOMTIN. THESE PASTORS MUST V WRECKED U BLACK N BLUE.

mister, as compelling as it seems to accuse them.Stay biblical if u want to get results in christianity.
Is the pastor the source of your wealth? No.
So how is he impoverishg you or the church members. How much do all these screamers even put in the offerg. How do they pay as tithe?
Most church folks dont tithe and their offerg is negligible yet theyre screamg fire down. Contrast ths with how much tax the governmnt takes from them to how much God takes - a sea of difference. Yet wen politicians loot (and politicians dnt loot in hundreds of millions of naira but billions) it doesnt make headlines.
A pastr loots (assumng he loots ) and see this.
A pastor was telling me of a request he made on the choir to buy forms for somethng. The forms cost how much? N50. Yet nobody bought.
How can God prosper financially this kind of ppl because God's principle for prosperity says give first and you shall recieve in the same measure you giv.
A christian who gives small will receive in bits. Do christians practce this consistently ? No.
To the choir example, they spend on other things far signifcant amounts yet not on God's wrk.
$1m is peanuts by any international weight u use to evaluate money. And God can giv far more than tht.
Far more but it's in accordance with his principles.
I'm not sayg it is God but i'm sayg it cud hav been God.
Re: Okotie Buys N120m Rolls Royce To Mark Pastoral Anniversary by Lalaciouskzlee: 1:48pm On Dec 22, 2013
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And who gave you the statistics of poor people in his church. Most of you wish pastors are poor, it is the desire of the devil too, but its too late they have discovered their rights in Christ. If you as an ordinary member realize your right in Christ and work hard, you will join the rich class, its not meant for pastors alone but some are leading by example.

It was Judas who criticized Mary for spending on Christ with the argument that such spending should have been given to the poor, an argument Jesus countered(John 12:3-5). The same old trick of the devil: trying to use compassion for the poor to stop believers from getting any favour. For crying out loud 90% people are poor by choice not by chance. Many had the same challenge that made them poor but utilized it to become rich while they were giving excuses. You don't expect me to be living poor just because their are people who refused to pay the price that I paid. Some people are making money now while some are always on Nairaland lazying and looking for the next pastor to criticize, later in life they will look for those to blame for their poverty: either government or uncle. I have told myself, I have no reason to be poor and even if I am a pastor, it has not changed my conviction. Hate me as you can, its not my fault, I labour for it like some pastors do

Disclaimer: Please note that I am not saying there are no theifing men of God, but such people often return to poverty, karma catches up with them. And even if not, they will pay the ultimate price but it is not you that should judge a God's servant(Rom 14:4), no not in a public forum, bible is against it; it is not you that should join the camp of the accuser of the brethren (Rev 12:9-11)except you are working for the devil yourself


Bro wat r u sayin, abi mke I leave gramma, Wetin u dey talk, u even read Wetin u write b4 u post am, do d pple dat u claim do't use d opportunity dey hve, even c d opportunity. I sure say u b Chris disciples Dats y u dey mistalk,.. does d bible preach prosperity abi it preaches salvation? Enlighten me abi na us d more.
Re: Okotie Buys N120m Rolls Royce To Mark Pastoral Anniversary by Boscog(m): 1:54pm On Dec 22, 2013
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Re: Okotie Buys N120m Rolls Royce To Mark Pastoral Anniversary by Nobody: 1:55pm On Dec 22, 2013
@ kambo.

My point isn't how much a million dollar is worth either in Local or internationally.

But as a Christian... Luxury , Extravagant , Lavishness ( Things of the WORLD ) Meaning things the WORLD FANCY shouldn't be Found in a Christian's Lifestyle. Shouldn't be part of our Life.Do you now understand?

The Source of his Income still comes from his Job..members of his church contributed that Money Or Maybe he still make money from his 1980 Music.

Even if it's a Gift he should ave rejected it as it's luxury and people look up to Him.

You're right by International standard $ 1m isn't really big.But in a country where the average people feed below 1$.It's really something.
Re: Okotie Buys N120m Rolls Royce To Mark Pastoral Anniversary by tpia5: 1:56pm On Dec 22, 2013
Deschil: This Pastor has really offended the Catholics & they won't stop this RIDICULOUS stories till their motive becomes too glaring. Reminds me of Yorubas and Stella Oduah and the Jonathan supporters and Obasanjo. Even if this spurious story was true, how is that your business? Earlier it was "armed" men in his Church! I don't like Oduah, Obasanjo & Okotie; I just HATE witchunting of any kind undecided

Get lost.
Re: Okotie Buys N120m Rolls Royce To Mark Pastoral Anniversary by Ayatullah(m): 1:57pm On Dec 22, 2013
Thumb Down for 'The Michael Jackson' Pastor. In the time of Jesus there were Gold Plated Horse-Driven Chariots, Jesus NEVER covet them, rather he rode in a Borrowed Donkey to Jerusalem. There were Beautiful Mansions in the time of Jesus, Jesus did not covet them, rather he declared: "The Son of Man has nowhere to lay his head".
Re: Okotie Buys N120m Rolls Royce To Mark Pastoral Anniversary by GeneralShepherd(m): 2:03pm On Dec 22, 2013
timothy001: @ kambo.


You're right by International standard $ 1m isn't really big.But in a country where the average people feed below 1$.It's really something.



Anywhere in the world 1million dollars is a whole lot of money! Anywhere in the world a Rolls Royce is a symbol of affluence and wealth! The average american doesn't own a Rolls Royce!

Don't listen to Kambo he will say anything to defend a MOG!
Re: Okotie Buys N120m Rolls Royce To Mark Pastoral Anniversary by Nobody: 2:15pm On Dec 22, 2013
@ GeneralShepherd

Thank You. They claim to be Man of God. Live Lavishly . Fixing relaxers on there hair. Going into dirty game politics, Still claiming to be man of GOD..
Selecting beautiful woman as wife then divorcing them as wish.

I think the man of GOD forget the bible says in Matthew 19:16-30,

VERSE 20: “All these I have kept,” the young man said, “What do I still lack?”

21 Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

22 When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth.

23 Then Jesus said to his disciples, “I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.”


Do you know about the RICHEST man in the WORLD ,He is not a Christian but he's giving 90% of his wealth to charity.
How about Oprah ..How about Warren buffet ..

Go and read about them and learn .

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Re: Okotie Buys N120m Rolls Royce To Mark Pastoral Anniversary by Nobody: 2:18pm On Dec 22, 2013
This people claim to be christian but don't know the meaning of Christian...Turn there Bible Upside down .

A Christian replacing IPAD / TABLET with the Bible , Making use of IJN Instead of In JESUS Name.

AND SOME OF YOU WILL SAY.PLEASE DON'T SAY ANY WORD AGAINST THE MAN OF GOD TO AVOID THE WRATH OF GOD.

THAT MAN WAS INSULTING THE POPE AND SAYING HE IS AN ANTICHRIST...What do u say to That?
Re: Okotie Buys N120m Rolls Royce To Mark Pastoral Anniversary by kaybyte: 2:22pm On Dec 22, 2013
ogbonge9grian: I no blame am at all. Na him gullible followers I blame
you are talking as if he is the only one doing that. Adeboye= private jet, Oritsajafor= private jet, =yedepo= private jet and universities that their members cant afford so just forget it cos they are all fake.
Re: Okotie Buys N120m Rolls Royce To Mark Pastoral Anniversary by kambo(m): 2:26pm On Dec 22, 2013
timothy001: @ kambo.

Most people point isn't how much a million dollar is worth either localy or internationaly.

But as a Christian...Luxury and Extravagant , Lavishness ( Things of the WORLD ) Meaning things the WORLD FANCY shouldn't be in a Christian Lifestyle. Shouldn't be part of our Life.Do you now understand?

The Source of his Income still comes from his Job..members contributed that Money?

Even if it's a Gift he should ave rejected it as it's luxury.

You're right by International standard $ 1m isn't really big.But in a country where the average people feed below 1$.It's really something.



i understand wht u sayg but i dnt thnk we cud reach agreemnt on ths issue.
A lot of the men of God in d lime light may b sufferg from poor self esteem. Y do i say so.
because, their ratg will drop among their fellow pastrs if they dont belong by owng the latest toy. You can bet God isnt behind such acquisitions even though it may be "scripturalized" - just find a scripture to back it up.
But outside of this if a christian is fervently pursuing God's business, the cravg for thngs begin to wane. Its automatc. Its like an athlete runng a race, he runs in light apparel. Or a mountain climber he doesnt climb with too much load.
The bible talks of the decietfulness of riches choking up d wrd of God. Ie money mindedness (how to get it,keep it,multiply it all the time) kills spiritual growth.
But on the other hand, while in God's will and mindg God's business and obsessg over wat God obsesses about - the salvation of mindkind, gettg his wrd out- there is no limit to the quality of life you can enjoy! The limit is your faith. There is nothg like too extravagant or too lavish or too rich at such levels. This is where we miss it. Actually, many christians cannot and will not enter these levels because they dnt qualify . If God gives them a glimpse of it ,they'll misbehave and derail. We see it all the time.
Pride,women and idolatry (wrshpg the good thngs of life) will take over but the converse of say the man of God who drives a 15 year old 504 isnt the biblical model of humility or right livg.
When you are fully pleasg God, He promises you Life morre abundantly. Health-the best, peace of mind -the best, car-make your pick.
Sometimes wen God is pleased, He grants extra ordinary gifts.
He was pleased with solomons answer and just like tht made solomon the richest man of his time.
He was pleased with job and gave him d most beautiful daughters in d land.
If a car can b too lavish (not like the doors and seats are encrusted in diamonds) wat about other thngs can they b excessive too. Live too long,be too healthy, be too peaceful,be too protected, b too beautiful(jobs daughtr) , b too intelligent. You cant even imagine it, it's only in money/material thngs this limits come in.

Wen d bible talks about the things of d wrld it is about a minset .

The enumeration is:
the lust of the eyes
the lust of the flesh
the pride of life.
The lust of d eyes drves d greediness . Enough is never enuff.
The lust of d flesh dictates the relaxation-orgies and sexual immorality is d favrite past time of sinner millionaire playboys
the pride of life from wat they hav and who they know caps it all up.
It doesnt apply to partcular physcal items. The aluminium in d private jet cud have been used to make cookg pots. Its just a thng. Thngs are not were d problem lies but the heart.
Re: Okotie Buys N120m Rolls Royce To Mark Pastoral Anniversary by dorox(m): 2:30pm On Dec 22, 2013
This purchase is proof that your tithe is working. Shout Hallelujah!
Re: Okotie Buys N120m Rolls Royce To Mark Pastoral Anniversary by Nobody: 2:33pm On Dec 22, 2013
@Kambo

They claim to be Man of God. Live Lavishly . Fixing relaxers on there hair. Going into dirty game politics, Still claiming to be man of GOD..
Selecting beautiful woman as wife then divorcing them as wish.

I think the man of GOD forget the bible says in Matthew 19:16-30,

VERSE 20: “All these I have kept,” the young man said, “What do I still lack?”

21 Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

22 When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth.

23 Then Jesus said to his disciples, “I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.”


Do you know about the RICHEST man in the WORLD ,He is not a Christian but he's giving 90% of his wealth to charity.
How about Oprah ..How about Warren buffet ..

Christianity Isn't a RACE btw you and your Fellow Pastor. Do you understand? Be an Example of Christ in all Aspect of your LIFE .
Go and read about them and learn .
Re: Okotie Buys N120m Rolls Royce To Mark Pastoral Anniversary by icankel: 2:35pm On Dec 22, 2013
gosh...cool ride. soon new wife will folo...Paassttoorrrr hw many times did I call u?
Re: Okotie Buys N120m Rolls Royce To Mark Pastoral Anniversary by kambo(m): 2:44pm On Dec 22, 2013
timothy001: @Kambo

They claim to be Man of God. Live Lavishly . Fixing relaxers on there hair. Going into dirty game politics, Still claiming to be man of GOD..
Selecting beautiful woman as wife then divorcing them as wish.

I think the man of GOD forget the bible says in Matthew 19:16-30,

VERSE 20: “All these I have kept,” the young man said, “What do I still lack?”

21 Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

22 When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth.

23 Then Jesus said to his disciples, “I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.”


Do you know about the RICHEST man in the WORLD ,He is not a Christian but he's giving 90% of his wealth to charity.
How about Oprah ..How about Warren buffet ..

Christianity Isn't a RACE btw you and your Fellow Pastor. Do you understand? Be an Example of Christ in all Aspect of your LIFE .
Go and read about them and learn .

i'm not endrsg practces of okotie etc just sayg his wealth and the wealth of som men of God,though immense by our standard mayb God rather thn theft as theyre accused of. And tht such wealth is not an impossibility fr God to bestow.
Besides, dnt b quick to exonerate bill gates and warren buffet. You may flay them seriously more thn okotie if u know their dirty secrets. I wont go into them here.
The picture of wat u read of d richest rich is often cosmetc. Dont b carried in by all tht there's more beneath the surface.
Re: Okotie Buys N120m Rolls Royce To Mark Pastoral Anniversary by Nobody: 2:48pm On Dec 22, 2013
to the very few and Thank God it is very few defending him; did you read the article or you just saw headline of pastor and rushed to defend him;
1. he had a very good car before now so he clearly did not need this extravagance; its not like this is his first car
2. someone made mention of tobacco companies and others - these are not religious institutions so we don't expect them to follow the way of Christ; how will Okotie preach to these CEOS, and immoral venture while he himself is no different in his lifestyle
3. All the religious bodies- Islam, Christianity, traditional all have an over riding message of modesty, temperance, etc(the fruits of the holy spirit for xtians) because clearly this world is not the end; they all emphasize how vain this earth is; few days to the end of 2013 he is purchasing these 2014 model; by end of the next year is he going to buy 2015 model; when will it end and how then can he preach with clean conscience against vanity and waste
4. if really you cannot see these are the issues that is causing outrage; then I pray some day you realize before it is too late
5. often i read do not judge my anointed; judgement means acting based on rumors, hearsay or a report without source; the original article on Punch newspaper said this was confirmed by his close aide; so its no longer a rumor; so we are right to pour condemnation and please do not say 1 Million dollars is nothing, if you have ever worked honestly to earn 1 dollars; you will know that is huge amount
if you began to save a dollar a day it will take you 2,738 years to get to a million.
Re: Okotie Buys N120m Rolls Royce To Mark Pastoral Anniversary by Nobody: 2:55pm On Dec 22, 2013
The guy is smiling to the bank. He's already living heaven on earth.

Folks will keep ranting but nothing can be done but one day I know, everything will change and the peoples eyes will be opened.

Daylight robbery using the bible to cajo its followers... I laugh in clouds
Re: Okotie Buys N120m Rolls Royce To Mark Pastoral Anniversary by xp17(m): 3:02pm On Dec 22, 2013
all I hear is, daddy in d lord has bought a new car
Re: Okotie Buys N120m Rolls Royce To Mark Pastoral Anniversary by emmayoc: 3:03pm On Dec 22, 2013
citizenY:


What are you saying... plus or minus
..deuce, secure, cancel in table tennis...

which one are you..pastor or disciple?

You are confused .....because the man has stolen your cheque book..... and
... your mind.pls does anyone understand wat this one is say?

How can you contribute money to his profligacy?
Re: Okotie Buys N120m Rolls Royce To Mark Pastoral Anniversary by Deschil: 3:05pm On Dec 22, 2013
cheesy
tpia@:


Get lost.
Re: Okotie Buys N120m Rolls Royce To Mark Pastoral Anniversary by Project400: 3:05pm On Dec 22, 2013
ajoguegbe:
And who gave you the statistics of poor people in his church. Most of you wish pastors are poor, it is the desire of the devil too, but its too late they have discovered their rights in Christ. If you as an ordinary member realize your right in Christ and work hard, you will join the rich class, its not meant for pastors alone but some are leading by example.

It was Judas who criticized Mary for spending on Christ with the argument that such spending should have been given to the poor, an argument Jesus countered(John 12:3-5). The same old trick of the devil: trying to use compassion for the poor to stop believers from getting any favour. For crying out loud 90% people are poor by choice not by chance. Many had the same challenge that made them poor but utilized it to become rich while they were giving excuses. You don't expect me to be living poor just because their are people who refused to pay the price that I paid. Some people are making money now while some are always on Nairaland lazying and looking for the next pastor to criticize, later in life they will look for those to blame for their poverty: either government or uncle. I have told myself, I have no reason to be poor and even if I am a pastor, it has not changed my conviction. Hate me as you can, its not my fault, I labour for it like some pastors do

Disclaimer: Please note that I am not saying there are no theifing men of God, but such people often return to poverty, karma catches up with them. And even if not, they will pay the ultimate price but it is not you that should judge a God's servant(Rom 14:4), no not in a public forum, bible is against it; it is not you that should join the camp of the accuser of the brethren (Rev 12:9-11)except you are working for the devil yourself


Well said, Sir.

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Re: Okotie Buys N120m Rolls Royce To Mark Pastoral Anniversary by Nobody: 3:06pm On Dec 22, 2013
See what someone said here about Church as a Business undecided undecided

https://www.nairaland.com/1564739/nigerian-man-goes-dragons-den
Re: Okotie Buys N120m Rolls Royce To Mark Pastoral Anniversary by kambo(m): 3:25pm On Dec 22, 2013
GeneralShepherd:

Anywhere in the world 1million dollars is a whole lot of money! Anywhere in the world a Rolls Royce is a symbol of affluence and wealth! The average american doesn't own a Rolls Royce!

Don't listen to Kambo he will say anything to defend a MOG!


the average amercan isnt rch.
Ths artcle is about extravagant expenditure which i said on a wrld scale $1m in autos doesnt make headlines in lavishness.

We are talking money. Here.
Excuse me? How much ar we talking about? $1m after 30 years of ministry.
In poor countries its a big deal.
Read in context.
Re: Okotie Buys N120m Rolls Royce To Mark Pastoral Anniversary by kambo(m): 3:41pm On Dec 22, 2013
adavize: to the very few and Thank God it is very few defending him; did you read the article or you just saw headline of pastor and rushed to defend him;
1. he had a very good car before now so he clearly did not need this extravagance; its not like this is his first car
2. someone made mention of tobacco companies and others - these are not religious institutions so we don't expect them to follow the way of Christ; how will Okotie preach to these CEOS, and immoral venture while he himself is no different in his lifestyle
3. All the religious bodies- Islam, Christianity, traditional all have an over riding message of modesty, temperance, etc(the fruits of the holy spirit for xtians) because clearly this world is not the end; they all emphasize how vain this earth is; few days to the end of 2013 he is purchasing these 2014 model; by end of the next year is he going to buy 2015 model; when will it end and how then can he preach with clean conscience against vanity and waste
4. if really you cannot see these are the issues that is causing outrage; then I pray some day you realize before it is too late
5. often i read do not judge my anointed; judgement means acting based on rumors, hearsay or a report without source; the original article on Punch newspaper said this was confirmed by his close aide; so its no longer a rumor; so we are right to pour condemnation and please do not say 1 Million dollars is nothing, if you have ever worked honestly to earn 1 dollars; you will know that is huge amount
if you began to save a dollar a day it will take you 2,738 years to get to a million.

people who count in millions dont make it savg a dollar a day.
And i said on an international scale not 3 wrld scale (where the life time income of 3 generations of d wrkg class can b under a $100k ). I repeat $1m is nothg at these levels to the rich. And okotie is in d class of the rich locally.
Even to the upper middle class, a million is easily achievable.
Dyu know wat real estate prices in the west is going for?
Theyre jewelry selling for a million dollars and more.
Tuition in ivy leagues is hovers near half a million dollars and theyre over subscribed they have to turn ppl dwn.
Is it only the rch patronisg?
A pastr with a million dollar auto collection wnt even make local head lines.

I mention d tobacco and so on companies cuz though theyre a business theyre lavish expenses dont recieve the kind of attention pastrs receive fr their expenditures.
Re: Okotie Buys N120m Rolls Royce To Mark Pastoral Anniversary by pbling: 3:43pm On Dec 22, 2013
corruptn start 4rm d church,is it by buyin RR 14 dat ll make d event gracefu,hmmm.i 1da wat clerics r tunin in2

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