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| Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Abbamicheal(m): 9:53am On Dec 24, 2013 |
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| Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Oluwaseytiano(m): 9:58am On Dec 24, 2013 |
ustazi:if u dont know what to say, u better shut up. If u read about saint nicholas, u wouldn't be such a fool |
| Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by abacusCm(m): 10:03am On Dec 24, 2013 |
Demain_man: |
| Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by jlounge: 10:06am On Dec 24, 2013 |
I think the thread stems from an address made to DL. Now if you are not of DL why are you bothered? Enlightenment affords everyone the liberty of choice. You have yours and they have theirs. Kamsy10: 1 Like |
| Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by GentleFrank(m): 10:07am On Dec 24, 2013 |
I dont agree |
| Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by honeydrop91(f): 10:10am On Dec 24, 2013 |
Can you imagine human beings insulting an annointed man of God all in a bid to prove ur point. Whateva d man sed wz based on his research,has he come to ur housew 2 carry d pot of xmas rice away 4rm your cooker? How dare you Insult him? Some pple r refering to his son's wedding? Abeg,una tear the part of the bible wey talk say "the sins of the son shuld not be visited on the father comot 4 ur bible? Especially a very grown up child who is at a marriageable age. By insulting him,u av gone contrary to the commandments of God,shuld we now call God a bad father for creating people like you. Some of you even sed deeper lifers are poor,abeg jst gimme one instance in which you got an envelope from deeper life asking you for a dime of your money for anything? D kind of money members have in dat church,ur dreams neva even catch am. So pls,get off your high horse of judgement and free the man. Dat wz his opinion and we all av a right to ours buh drop the insults pls,stop inviting curses on you head by runnin ur mouth anyhow. 3 Likes |
| Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Oluwaseytiano(m): 10:13am On Dec 24, 2013 |
phrank chek:norse 1 Like |
| Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Nobody: 10:17am On Dec 24, 2013 |
elfaez: Anthony kumuyi is the former governor of oyo state,and if you ask me,I'll say he is a good manwho be this one.... some dudes sef |
| Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by hopilo: 10:18am On Dec 24, 2013 |
He came to Akwa Ibom xmas carol nite 2011. The same idolatory celebration. God is watching us |
| Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by rabzy: 10:36am On Dec 24, 2013 |
tomzman: Kumuyi is one person I respect a lot but from recent happenings, right from his son's wedding, I began to lose my respect for him. His doctrines only lead to hypocrisy. Yes, we all know the origin of Christmas but the most important thing is that it is the essence of Christmas that we celebrate not the origin. Everybody also knows that Jesus wasn't born on the 25th of December, the day is just a generally accepted day to remember the birth of the saviour, nothing more. I agree Christmas might have been commercialised but that doesn't subtract from its essence. Let me also remind Kumuyi that the day he and other Christians round the world worship God in churches (i.e sunday) was named after a god. Why does he still hold services on that day? Also, did Jesus use cars when he was on earth or was there television or facebook during his time? Why does Kumuyi use all these things since they weren't used by Jesus or even the Apostles. See, the fact that something is not expressly spelt out in the Bible doesn't necessarily make it bad and it is not everytime that the crowd is wrong. The Holy Spirit is always there to guide us. The fact that it was based on a lie and it is still celebrated with the fanfare and paraphernalia of the old pagan origin is the crux of the matter. All evidence from the Bible and early church shows that birthdays were significant and important for pagans and they enthusiastically celebrate it. To now rename, whitewash and present it as a honour to Christ is totally wrong. Its a celebration adopted from paganism which is still celebrated with pagan rites....that makes it pagan. 1 Like |
| Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Nobody: 10:38am On Dec 24, 2013 |
From the way highly esteemed people are talking these days.....I am learning public speaking management. I am learning silence and speaking out mechanism. If you don't learn from others' lesson you will be a lesson to others. |
| Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by rabzy: 10:39am On Dec 24, 2013 |
When pharaohs were crowned in ancient Egypt they were considered to have transformed into gods. This divine promotion made their coronation date much more important than their birth into the world. Scholars have pointed to the Bible's reference of a Pharaoh's birthday as the earliest known mention of a birthday celebration (around 3,000 B.C.E.), but Egyptologist Dr. James Hoffmeier believes this is referencing the subject's coronation date, since that would have been the Pharaoh's "birth" as a god. The Greeks offered moon-shaped cakes to Artemis as a form of tribute to the lunar goddess. To recreate the radiance of the moon and her perceived beauty, Greeks lit candles and put them on cakes for a glowing effect. The Greeks most likely took the idea of birthday celebration from the Egyptians, since just like the celebration of the pharaohs as "gods," the Greeks were celebrating their gods and goddesses. “Originally the idea [of birthday greetings and wishes for happiness] was rooted in magic. The working of spells for good and evil is the chief usage of witchcraft. One is especially susceptible to such spells on his birthday, as one’s personal spirits are about at that time. Dreams dreamed on the birthday eve should be remembered, for they are predictions of the future brought by the guardian spirits which hover over one’s bed on the birthday eve. Birthday greetings have power for good or ill because one is closer to the spirit world on this day. Good wishes bring good fortune, but the reverse is also true, so one should avoid enemies on one’s birthday and be surrounded only by well-wishers. ‘Happy birthday’ and ‘Many happy returns of the day’ are the traditional greetings” (The Lore of Birthdays, Linton, p. 20)... The giving of birthday gifts is a custom associated with the offering of sacrifices to pagan gods on their birthdays. Certainly the custom was linked with the same superstitions that formed the background for birthday greetings. “The exchange of presents… is associated with the importance of ingratiating good and evil fairies… on their or our birthdays” (ibid.). The traditional birthday cake and candles also have their origin in ancient pagan idol worship. The ancients believed that the fire of candles had magical properties. They offered prayers and made wishes to be carried to the gods on the flames of the candles. Thus we still have the widely practiced birthday custom of making a wish, then blowing out the candles. The Greeks celebrated the birthday of their moon goddess, Artemis, with cakes adorned with lighted candles... 1 Like |
| Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by rabzy: 10:42am On Dec 24, 2013 |
This is what Origen said, one of the early xtians about 200 years after christ died. Origen of Alexandria, in 245 A.D., wrote in a dissertation on Leviticus: “None of the saints can be found who ever held a feast or a banquet upon his birthday, or rejoiced on the day when his son or daughter was born. But sinners rejoice and make merry on such days. For we find in the Old Testament that Pharaoh, king of Egypt, celebrated his birthday with a feast, and that Herod, in the New Testament did the same. But the saints not only neglect to mark the day of their birth with festivity, but also, filled with the Holy Spirit, they curse this day, after the example of Job and Jeremiah and David. |
| Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Maximus85(m): 10:45am On Dec 24, 2013 |
This is why I Love being a Jehovah's Witness. Though we made some wrong calculations in the past, we publicly admitted it cos we believe that the light of the truth is shining ever brighter. We calculated that the end might come in 1975, but looking at what Mat 24:14 says...the end won't come until the goodnews of God's kingdom is preached in all inhabited earth. That's why we concentrate more on preaching and preaching and preaching. We are doing it like Jesus, going from house-to-house. All our doctrine is based in the Bible, We use God's name Jehovah. That name appeared nearly 7000times in the hebrew scriptures (manuscript) because of this, they said we made our own Bible. How many times did that name Jehovah appear in your Bible. Simple english language. What is "I am the Lord God" two titles, just like saying "I am Mr Doctor" in our own translation its "I am Jehovah your God" see the difference? Our Doctrine has never changed since the beginning. We don't celebrate Birthdays, No Christmas, No Blood, No Two Wives, We never believed in Trinity, We never believed that everyone goes to heaven. You can go on and on, we've never changed any of our believes. |
| Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Maximus85(m): 10:49am On Dec 24, 2013 |
rabzy: When pharaohs were crowned in ancient Egypt they were considered to have transformed into gods. This divine promotion made their coronation date much more important than their birth into the world. Scholars have pointed to the Bible's reference of a Pharaoh's birthday as the earliest known mention of a birthday celebration (around 3,000 B.C.E.), but Egyptologist Dr. James Hoffmeier believes this is referencing the subject's coronation date, since that would have been the Pharaoh's "birth" as a god. The truth is right there but Satan has blinded many people |
| Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Kenfil(f): 10:52am On Dec 24, 2013 |
I don't care. I get to eat enof food and chop enof chicken. |
| Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by rabzy: 10:57am On Dec 24, 2013 |
For Xtians we believe God first instituted a way of worship/life that was based on the mosaic law which became known as Judaism...now how does Judaism see birthdays: The first century Jewish historian Josephus noted that Jewish families did not celebrate birthdays: Nay, indeed, the law does not permit us to make festivals at the birth of our children, and thereby afford occasion of drinking to excess (Josephus. Translated by W. Whiston. Against Apion, Book II, Chapter 26. Extracted from Josephus Complete Works, Kregel Publications, Grand Rapids (MI), 14th printing, 1977, p. 632). Now although there is no specific command against the celebration of birthdays in the Torah, the Jewish custom in those days was apparently based on the negative occurrences in the Torah surrounding birthdays, as well as the astrological implications of the celebration of birthdays (pagan practices, like astrology, were specifically prohibited in the law) as a rule, Jews did not celebrate their birthdays. Indeed, while the dates of passing (yahrtzeit) of the great figures of Jewish history are recorded and commemorated, their dates of birth are mostly unknown. (Your Jewish Birthday. Chabad-Lubavitch Media Center. http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/2527/jewish/What-Happened-on-Your-Birthday.htm). The later Hebrews looked on the celebration of birthdays as a part of idolatrous worship, a view which would be abundantly confirmed by what they saw of the common observances associated with these days.”—The Imperial Bible-Dictionary (London, 1874), edited by Patrick Fairbairn, Vol. I, p. 225. The Encyclopedia Judaica could not be more blunt: "The celebration of birthdays is unknown in traditional Jewish ritual'. Jesus Christ ushered in the new covenant and a way of life/worship which became known as xtianity. What did early Jesus Disciples say: Here is some of what Origen wrote: ...of all the holy people in the Scriptures, no one is recorded to have kept a feast or held a great banquet on his birthday. It is only sinners (like Pharaoh and Herod) who make great rejoicings over the day on which they were born into this world below (Origen, in Levit., Hom. VIII, in Migne P.G., XII, 495) The writings of the late third century Catholic theologian Arnobius show that, even that late, Catholics objected to the celebration of birthdays as he wrote: ...you worship with couches, altars, temples, and other service, and by celebrating their games and birthdays, those whom it was fitting that you should assail with keenest hatred. (Arnobius. Against the Heathen (Book I), Chapter 64. Excerpted from Ante-Nicene Fathers, Volume 6. Edited by Alexander Roberts & James Donaldson. American Edition, 1886. Online Edition Copyright © 2005 by K. Knight). The notion of a birthday festival was far from the ideas of the Christians of this period in general.”—The History of the Christian Religion and Church, During the Three First Centuries (New York, 1848), Augustus Neander (translated by Henry John Rose), p. 190. |
| Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by seunlayi(m): 10:59am On Dec 24, 2013 |
[size=18pt]@ OP, what do you have to gain from extracting just the issue of xmas from that message as preached by the GS, we know people like you that joined the congregation just to criticize rather than benefit from that powerful revival message.[/size] “Arise, GO UP to Bethel and dwell there”. Gen 35:1 In Bethel, idolatry and its practices and festivals are forgotten, In Bethel, following the ways of the World is halted; In Bethel, there is RENEWAL of fellowship with God and the REBUILDING of the altar of consecration and commitment to the service of God; In Bethel, there is REVIVAL of holiness and RIGHTEOUSNESS; In Bethel, there is REVELATION and CLARITY of the Will and Purpose of God for our lives; In Bethel, there is RESTORATION to the first love; In going up to Bethel, WE DROP the property of the devil that we have carried along with us in the journey of life; In Bethel, there is HOLINESS, righteousness and REAL PURITY of heart and life; In Bethel, ALL SELF IS GONE and CHRIST IS ALL IN ALL; In Bethel, all deception, diplomacy and struggling for the vain things of life are eradicated. As we gradually move on to the end of this year, it is time for STOCKTAKING and time to listen to our Maker as He clearly SPEAKS and COMMANDS us to “ARISE, GO UP TO BETHEL AND DWELL THERE”. DON’T just pass by Bethel, DWELL THERE! DON’T just talk about it, DWELL THERE! DON’T just pray about it, but DWELL THERE! DON’T just desire it, just arise, GO UP and DWELL THERE until HIS DEW falls on your thirsty soul and HIS FIRE descends to consume all worldly passions and give way to preparedness for the Coming of the Lord. I pray the Lord will give you the GRACE AND STRENGTH TO ARISE FROM TODAY and GO UP TO BETHEL and DWELL THERE. 4 Likes |
| Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Nobody: 10:59am On Dec 24, 2013 |
hopilo: He came to Akwa Ibom xmas carol nite 2011. The same idolatory celebration. God is watching uswell, he had never said anything on xmass before. Now that he researched into it n discovered it's wrong, he dare not honour any xmass invitation again. We learn everyday n God opens our eyes to divine facts every now n then. Just decide which one u want. He is not forcing any boy...God bless u! |
| Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by rabzy: 11:06am On Dec 24, 2013 |
Kenfil: I don't care. I get to eat enof food and chop enof chicken. Thank you very much, this is more sincere, we don't have to care for any of God's law, its a God-given right to choose, it has always been about choice, but let no one sugar coat the whole thing and change it from what it is.. Christian Kids have been eating Sallah meat in primary and secondary schools, their parents never told them not to because they don't care, even in offices they people still ask their muslim friends to bring Sallah meat for them, because they don't care, Eyo festival rooted in paganism was sugar-coated to be tourism, pple went as a family with their kids because they don't care. I believe that was the meaning of the broad road, a road where you can be what you want to be, who you want to be with, where there is no limitations and no care. For Salvation you just have to care, but its not everybody that cares about salvation too, even if they are uprooted and transferred into God's Kingdom, they will look for a way out because the truth is not in them. 1 Like |
| Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Orikinla(m): 11:08am On Dec 24, 2013 |
The Man of God has spoken the truth. Christmas carnivals are pagan orgies. 2 Likes |
| Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Nobody: 11:09am On Dec 24, 2013 |
Christmas....much ado about nothing. |
| Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by FreshGreen: 11:12am On Dec 24, 2013 |
SHOULD CHRISTIANS REALLY CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS? Christmas period is a time of celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ everywhere in the world, but should we really celebrate Christmas at all?" I think this short article can be of little help, let's see: OPPOSITIONS There two major reasons people oppose celebrating Christmas as Christians. The first reason is that Christmas originated from pagan worship, and the second reason is that Jesus was not really born on December 25th. (i) Origin: Should we celebrate what originated from pagan worship? Well, the point is that it was actually the holiday of Saturnalia that the pagans celebrated then, not Christmas. Christmas was a replacement of Saturnalia festival in Christendom; Christmas solely celebrates Christ Jesus, and it has no link or connection with idol festival as far as Christmas is concerned today. To oppose Christmas because the similar or same day was formally celebrated by pagans is wrong. If you oppose Christmas, then you will oppose Easter because both have similar history; if you oppose both Christmas and Easter, then you will need to oppose going to church on Sunday, because Sunday was a formal holiday for the god of Sun, and if you oppose worshiping on Sunday, then you must oppose calling days like Sunday, Monday, Saturday, etc. Because they all have idolatry origin. If you still believe the names are attached to idols, like Sunday for Sun god, and Monday for Moon god, and you don't worship God on Sunday, and you mention the idolatry names? Then you still agree with it. Christmas was not celebrated for the first 300 years of early church, until the catholic, so also church building was not built by early Christians for 300 years until the catholic. Building church auditorium can also be traced to the pagan gods. Does that means building church auditorium is evil? No, but it must be moderate, not magnificent. The fact that Christmas was traced to pagan festival does not means it is wrong to celebrate Christmas. Today we celebrate Christ at Christmas and Him alone. (ii) Day of Birth: Jesus was not born on December 25th, and it is not necessary for Christmas day. People can choose any day to celebrate Jesus' day of birth, because He owns all days; only we, the humans, can be tied to a day we were born for birthday. MUST WE CELEBRATE? Do we have to celebrate, sing and give gifts to mark the birth of Jesus? The answer is YES? Luke 2:13, "And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God and saying:14 “Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, goodwill toward men!” Angels in heaven celebrated the birth of Jesus, so it is not wrong for Christians to celebrate the birth of Jesus, as long as Jesus alone is mentioned and no connection to any idol or selfish purpose. It is not wrong to celebrate Christmas as long Christ is the center of the celebration and everything you do glorifies His name; it is wrong for people who celebrate self or sinful indulgences during Christmas. Christians can celebrate Christ at Christmas and share with people. THE BAD NEWS The bad thing about Christmas is that it's not everyday; the joyful feeling, the celebration and sharing do not last, only for few days, and the worse is the Christmas day, it goes faster and ends. I wish it can always stay longer with such wonderful feeling. The worst is that if only during Christmas you experience the joy of the birth of Jesus, then you are a miserable person. Christmas celebration doesn't last, but the good news is that when you accept Jesus into your life as your Lord, you will always experience more than the joy of Christmas. If you have not experienced the joy of Salvation since you have been a Christian, then you are unrecognized by Jesus, you need genuine salvation to have the unlimited joy. If you have lost your joy of Salvation, you need to get it restored. Repentance, that is to realize and ready to forsake your sins, and accepting Jesus as your Lord, are the only means to have the unspeakable joy of Jesus! When you become saved, you begin life that pleases Jesus, not your self or Satan, you walk away from any form of sin; that is when the birth of Jesus will bring joy and justification. But if you realize Jesus as Savior of the world and remain in your sins, it will only bring judgment. We can care for Christmas by celebrating Christ, but more than that, we should be celebrated by Christ through genuine salvation and living in holiness and righteousness, so that we can celebrate with Christ forever in heaven! John 3:16, "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life." MERRY CHRISTMAS! (YOU CAN COMMENT "MERRY CHRISTMAS" AND SHARE THIS MESSAGE) If you will like to surrender your life to Jesus or to rededicate your life to Jesus, please click on this link and read http://www.facebook.com/notes/revelation-of-truth-evangelical-ministries-rtem/how-can-i-be-saved/270674586372252 You can also contact us on email or phone for prayer, counsel or if you need biblical enlightenment on personal issues: Revelation of Truth Evangelical Ministries, (RTEM) Our Email: rtemoutreaches@yahoo.com Our Tel: (+234) (0)803 924 9751, (0)705 937 3351, (0)802 578 7942. 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| Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Abaykf: 11:12am On Dec 24, 2013 |
[he said that it has idolatary background abi u no go sch. niquote author=opyzy]Iro gbu! are u a jehovah witness? By d way how is it idolatry? do xtians offer chickens or any other meat to idols?smh christmas is jus to celebrate the birth of jesus[/quote] |
| Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by chiwuike20: 11:21am On Dec 24, 2013 |
wanney: Can see some of kumuyi's church members have started posting on this thread and defending him .I wonder why they use internet n visit social forum afterall na like TV too smh. wonder why some people go look for history n start insinuating something na pagan tradition before,Christmas has been celebrated long before some pple were born yet they will keep digging n searching for reasons for this n that.Na only God sabi pple Wey dey worship am,d bible s straight forward and simple.It is quite intriguing to see people defend idoltarous practices. Why don't u quote from d scripture whr we were told to observe d birth of christ. Just give a line stating it and I'll believe |
| Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Demainman1: 11:23am On Dec 24, 2013 |
oshytayman: well, he had never said anything on xmass before. Now that he researched into it n discovered it's wrong, he dare not honour any xmass invitation again. We learn everyday n God opens our eyes to divine facts every now n then. Just decide which one u want. He is not forcing any boy...God bless u! The same way he researched watching TV and proclaimed it a sin? Who made him a researcher anyways? KUMUYI is a clown. Tell him to put his home in order first i beg? 1 Like |
| Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by emmahoney(m): 11:30am On Dec 24, 2013 |
Flautist: Youtube vid please.yes Christmas remains the tradition of men, no doubt. It originated from Pagans, when they converted to Christians they came along with their gods (known as god of te light). The early Christian leaders accepted it due to their greed. We met people celebrating it without prejudice!! As a matter of fact, many know the truth but they won't follow it. 1Thessalolians 5 Vs 21 says Prove all things and hold fast to what is right. If Jesus Christ wanted his birth to be celebrated, he would have instructed his disciple to be doing so!! Many Christians today are blinded folded, they would never agree. Moreover, if his birth needs to be celebrated, we would have know his true birth date. Some should tell me his true birth name,God is not a God of Confusion but men do!! It would have being better if December 25th is not linked to his birth. The people that celebrated their birth days in the bible are wicked people (I.e king Herod and king Pharoah). The righteous cursed the day they were born ( Job and Jeremiah) . Somebody might want to say that king David did, that is very wrong. David only said that is good to be counting our days, this only tells us that once are know your age, u would know where you suppose to be (that is, how wise you should be). No matter how people preach against Xmas, people will still not do away with it. Peace be unto you all, happy celebrations if you wish to do so. |
| Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Demainman1: 11:31am On Dec 24, 2013 |
chiwuike20: Can u post anywhere in your scripture that says you should go to church on SUN god day By the way what were the three wise man doing if not celebrating JESUS's birth? The truth is that as long as you are living on this earth, you are surrounded by paganism and idols. Even the bible you are reading now was put together by those so called pagan believer. Your King James is not any better read your history. Do you even know that KING JAMES was a person? Read up on his history and tell me why you think you should be reading his version of the bible. Was KING JAMES a born again christian? or was he a circumcise again christians? You tell me 1 Like |
| Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by JustCurious: 11:37am On Dec 24, 2013 |
Demain_man: A 72 year-old preacher of the gospel is a clown!? Wow! What an upbringing..! Even if he is not old enough to be your grandfather...atleast he deserves some respect. 3 Likes |
| Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Demainman1: 11:42am On Dec 24, 2013 |
OFAD: CHRIST MASS WHY NOT CHRIST PLUTO OR ANY OTHER PLANET....this is HARD SAYING WHO CAN HOLD IT...with god nothing can be impossible..IF U CONTINUE IN MY WORD THEM ARE YE MY DISCIPLE INDEED..QUESTION:is christ mass his word/command think abt dis You are a stack ILLITRATE. I belief you mean MARS. MASS = EUCHARIST = COMMUNION It is not a Planet sir. No wonder KUMUYI message is for dunce like you and your likes in that your country Nigeria. People who will belief anything a man like himself says just because is he called 'god of man' . |
| Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Demainman1: 11:47am On Dec 24, 2013 |
JustCurious: Age is just a number my dear and yes 72 years can be a clown. Is Obama 72 years? Do you know how many 72 years work under him? Was Jesus 72 years? Do you know how many 72 years Pharisees he rebuked? That is why our country is not progressing. Respect for thieves just because they are elders. Don't worry God will come down one day and sort it out for us. |
| Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Nobody: 11:50am On Dec 24, 2013 |
Demain_man:brother pls watch your mouth,think before you speak...you just called a man of God a clown..after all he was not even referring to you rather his church members. |
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