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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Johnsinia(m): 11:55am On Dec 24, 2013 |
GeneralShepherd: Sometimes I wonder how some people reason!pls, what is Xmass? Educate me more! |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Demainman1: 12:03pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
handelex: brother pls watch your mouth,think before you speak...you just called a man of God a clown..after all he was not even referring to you rather his church members. And you are a man of SATAN abi? Give me a bible verse that says we shall not rebuke a 'god of man' Jesus who we claim to be like rebuked them in his days. He even chased them out of the temple when they turned it into a den of thieves! Please, don't infest me with your 'follow, follow' disease i beg you. I know my own level of faith. And yes, I can rebuke any 'god of man' who err anytime, anyday. 2 Likes |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by solomonbrown64: 12:06pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
well for me....every ministry tend to have different interpretation of d scriptures .... ..I dont no if it is a gud tin or a bad tin...but one tin I no.....condemnation doesn't make a right...nd I dont c ow celebrating xmas affects our walk wit God .....he (Kumuyi) has condemned a lot of tins ...only for him to visit wat he condemned .....anyway, .... he is d sherpard over his sheep....fortunately I m not in his herd ......xmas is for Jesus ...nd I will celebrate it,.....COYG |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by emmasege: 12:16pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
This is why I am not 100% a fan of any of these prominent ministers of the gospel in Nigeria. They seem to make so many contradictory statements often times either in words or in actions, such that any dogmatic follower of theirs would have fallen into error b4 he/she ever realised that. Are we talking about the same Pastor Kumuyi that was a guest preacher at the National (CAN-organised) Christmas carol held at the National Ecumenical center some 2/3 years ago, with the Deeper Life choir fully participating at the event. As a protestant Christian, I am fully in support of any tradition that proclaims and reminds people that Jesus was born into this world so that the world could be reconciled to God. A better way of challenging the celebration of Christmas especially in the western world should have been: "There is no point celebrating Christmas without Christ". This should be the message of Deeper Life and other opponents of Christmas to the world and not by outrightly condemning a tradition that still in a way reminds some nations (e.g. USA, UK etc) of their Christian heritage. 2 Likes |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Pque(m): 12:18pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
Kamsy10: @Kamsy u must be sleeping when typing. Just curious arguement is in support of chrismax aginst d view of Baba Kumuyi |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Nobody: 12:26pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
unmask: you might be surprised to know how rich deeperlife members are..... You should have maybe said they don't show off..... But saying they are not rich..... Then you are sorely mistakenOkay. I accept my wrong in my statement. I'm sorry. 1 Like |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by jlounge: 12:30pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
Can you share what knowledge of God encourages comments like this? And what's your definition of a 'dunce'? Demain_man: |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Nawtykid: 12:33pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
Highly disappointed.......evn u Kumuyi?[ |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by aircom(m): 12:41pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
Demain_man:I tire o..The names of the days can be traced back in various languages to the seven planets gods.In English, Saturday, Sunday and Monday are associated with Saturn, the Sun and the Moon respectively. In other languages such as French or Italian, the names of the days from Monday through Friday are associated with the Moon, Mars, Mercury, Jupiter and Venus respectively..Anyway it all goes down to our motives behind the celebration..if u ask me I dey follow bros jay mark him birthday... Confirm Faaji :DHappy bday to u bro.av a blast ({}) 1 Like |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by ShedrachU(m): 12:45pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
I dont care wether 25 or nt..all i knw a saviour was born and am celebrating jesus. |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Nobody: 12:46pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
Demain_man:Mr Rebuker .. Mind u kumuyi was only speaking to members of his church, he was not speaking to Christians in Nigeria, so if you are not a member of his church I don't see the reason why dis should b your problem. 1 Like |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Demainman1: 1:23pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
handelex: Mr Rebuker .. Mind u kumuyi was only speaking to members of his His kids don't even listen to him. I know he will come round again someday. Is it not the same Kumuyi that said TV was evil? He will come round trust me. The only reason he made that comment is 'NAIRALAND' He or his assistants are all members of the nairaland forum and they can read the CATHOLIC bashing going on and decided to take it further. The same people who chose a date for Christmas also chose names for the weekdays and even months of the years and they were mostly names after the service of one god or the other. What are you guys going to do about it then? |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by icankel: 1:28pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
I for comment if sey I no get deeper life member wey me n am dey rival one babe |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by obayaya(m): 2:08pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
Flautist: Youtube vid please. And I'm a servant of devil abi? Abeg make I hear word jor |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by inagold(m): 2:41pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
mr.osu,kumuyi dosn't nid atension on diz earth again. |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by jlounge: 3:25pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
How is DL your business? Aren't you at liberty wherever you are? Demain_man: |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by dameastra(f): 3:55pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
Its really sad d way pple critise odas. A man of GOD for dt mata.. Even if he is fake or not, As long as he stands up as an intermediary btw man and GOD.. He shud be respected.. Wat happened to every one is entitled to dre own opinion.. Its either u follow or u don't. Nobody forces u to take heed.. U don't need to lambast or call him names. It all depends on your understanding... Is it wen u throw parties n all dt u celebrate?? Wat happens to a complete family avin a tym out in periods like ds. N if u say deeper life members r poor, its because u r being delusional n u can't see beyond ur nose.. Comments shud be tot abt b4 bin posted.. Its very neccessary 3 Likes |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Nobody: 4:50pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
dameastra: Its really sad d way pple critise odas. A man of GOD for dt mata.. Even if he is fake or not, As long as he stands up as an intermediary btw man and GOD.. He shud be respected.. Wat happened to every one is entitled to dre own opinion.. Its either u follow or u don't. Nobody forces u to take heed.. U don't need to lambast or call him names. It all depends on your understanding... Is it wen u throw parties n all dt u celebrate?? Wat happens to a complete family avin a tym out in periods like ds. N if u say deeper life members r poor, its because u r being delusional n u can't see beyond ur nose.. Comments shud be tot abt b4 bin posted.. Its very neccessary no man is an intermediary between God and another man. 3 Likes |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Ayatullah(m): 5:28pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
opyzy: Iro gbu! are u a jehovah witness? By d way how is it idolatry? do xtians offer chickens or any other meat to idols?smh christmas is jus to celebrate the birth of jesus Iro gbu means what? Your Iro gbu = Otito Koro. Why are you afraid of the truth? Is it because of the Rice and Chicken and the booooz you will miss if you follow Pastor Kumuyi's 'fatwa' on Christmas that is making you call Truth Falsehood? You are 'omo onijekuje'. |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by orakporemmanuel: 5:52pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
63-1216 WE.HAVE.SEEN.HIS.STAR.AND.HAVE.COME.TO.WORSHIP.HIM_ TUCSON.AZ V-13 N-8 MONDAY_ 27 Now notice, Christmas now has changed. Now, the real day of Christmas, we... that would be disputed, because we do not know it. The way we take Christmas, if you ever studied it, we are taking the--the Roman Catholic church's conception of when Christmas was. Actually, Christ could not have been born on the twenty-fifth day of December, and be according with the Scriptures, because there's thirty foot of snow in Judaea in that time, see, so they... it could not been shepherds out on the hills, and so forth, and it'd be contrary then to all nature. He came like nature. 28 Because, God has a law, and those laws can't be changed. The sun goes down, you can't say, "Well, it won't rise." It does rise. Summer, winters, and so forth, it's God's laws that He's set in order. And they, every one, work perfect. 63-1216 WE.HAVE.SEEN.HIS.STAR.AND.HAVE.COME.TO.WORSHIP.HIM_ TUCSON.AZ V-13 N-8 MONDAY_ 29 Now, but, He was perhaps born in April or May, one. When, He was a Lamb, and every other thing proved He would be a Lamb. That's the reason He was born in a manger, in a barn, and not in a house; because lambs are borned outside in the barns, in straw and stuff, and not in the house. When He was taken to the crucifixion, He was led away. You remember, you lead the sheep. We go to the slaughterhouse down here, they got a goat or something that leads the sheep; the sheep won't go hisself, he's got to be led. In every way, He was, so then in nature He had to be born when lambs are born. And that's in April, see, that's about when He was born. 63-1216 WE.HAVE.SEEN.HIS.STAR.AND.HAVE.COME.TO.WORSHIP.HIM_ TUCSON.AZ V-13 N-8 MONDAY_ 30 But then when Christianity was brought into Romanism and mixed at Nicaea, then they had the sun-god, Jupiter, the sun-god of Rome, his birthday was on the... between the... about the twenty-fifth day of December. Because, the Roman circus started on the twenty-first and lasted till the twenty-fifth, which was in celebration of the sun-god's birthday. So blending Romanism paganism to--to Christianity, they said, "Let's make it the Son-of-God's birthday, and then we can all agree upon it." See, it's always been on systems of compromising to the Truth, every time, has always been. |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by rufychuks: 6:29pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
KasaMary: “Christmas is a Pagan Celebration”This is the best explanation anyone can ever give. Most places that were utterly diabolic in the east were converted by showing that God is greater than their idols. Most churches are built on evil forests. Does this make that church evil? Definitely not! Instead, it resets the heart of the villagers to turn to the true God. The love exhibited around the world during christmas cannot be compared to any other religion's celebration. Anyone who hates christmas hates christ! 1 Like |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by DoctorStephen(m): 6:41pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
Jesus Christ never preached Christmas nor did the apostles He appointed. Let's stop arguing and go to the field of evangelism. The kingdom of God is not meat and drink,but righteouness and love, joy and peace in the Holy Ghost.Read Romans 14. Do you love,as Christ commanded us, even your enemies? Why can't we just live to celebrate Christ's in our everyday lives. By being truthful,returning the stolen properties we acquired before knowing the Lord, doing good, helping the poor,visiting those in hospitals and in prison,and practising holiness.These are Divine injunctions which we must follow if we must see the kingdom of God. It all starts with being born again. Are you ready to meet the Lord.If you happen to die now,is the heaven sure for you? These are the questions we must look into. BE BORN AGAIN! How? Repent from sin And Believe in Jesus Christ who died for you. 1 Like |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Elexdynamics(m): 6:43pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
[b][/b] The point is very simple,but as simple as it is,many are perceiving it wrongly. The birth of Christ is more than the mere singing of carol songs,running helter-skelter in search of money to buy fashionable clothes,organising carnivals in streets,hotels and bar beaches to make merry,drinking excessive alcohol and shooting all sorts of bangers that usually cause commotion and sometimes,fire disaster which had once ,claim lives and properties. Christ-mass is just renewing our friendship with God,proclaiming and testifying Jesus to people and being thankful to God for HIS love in giving HIS only begotten son for mankind's salvation! As true christians,CHRIST-mass is best celebrated in our Hearts,which should be daily! 2 Likes |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by grandstar(m): 6:57pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
Lilimax: I've heard it several times ? A Pagan festival remains a pagan festival no matter who it is claimed to be for - Exodus 32:1-5. God is not one to be mocked! |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by rufychuks: 7:08pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
rabzy: For those who are mention Moonday, thors-day, Freyas-day. It is not d name dat makes d day it is d celebration. So does anyone remember or celebrate any of those gods on those days, so if xtians don't continue d practise of celebrating dem under any guise den it should nt be used as a defense for d xmas celebration.Please listen to yourself!!! |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by DoctorStephen(m): 7:21pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
I have a problem with people who call Christians xtians. & If you must celebrate Christmas,why call it xmas? X is not Christ,and Christ is not X. Celebrating Jesus everyday! |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by variance: 8:28pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
May God have mercy onus. I don't think Pastor Kumuyi should be looking for attention that he has already. To my own opinion, how you express your action does not really matter but the motive behind the action. He's not forcing any honourable nigerian(or outsiders) to agree or obey what he said. Let us please be careful about our use of words in addressing this simple issue. GREAT NIGERIANS! 1 Like |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by tomzman: 9:01pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
rabzy:See, go and read your history books well. How is Christmas based on a lie? People were using the day to celebrate their god, a Christian Emperor arose and decided to change that to the celebration of Christ, what's the problem with that? You say Christmas is still being celebrated with the fanfare and paraphernalia of the old pagan origin, What's the name of the cave you live in? How many Christians do you see dancing and offering sacrifices to any god on the 25th of December like those pagans of old. I agree Christmas might have been turned to something else but the essence still remains the same. Do you know the origin of Sunday? yes Sunday-The day you go to church to worship God. Maybe you would also say Christians shouldn't go to church on Sunday again if you knew. Don't just carry doctrine on your head, understanding is the key in Christianity and the Spirit gives that. 1 Like |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Rexyl(m): 9:14pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
Accept my warm Greetings ... a reminder to celebrate the birth of Prince of peace and the Saviour of the world - Jesus Christ. Merry Christmas and Happy new year to you all. 2 Likes
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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by chinkelly(m): 10:13pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
glimpse:Thats right, Thor was considered the god of thunder. That movie was actually made from this THOR. Love that movie mhen! |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Soloter(m): 10:30pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
Jeremiah, Isaiah, John the Baptist, Paul the apostle, etc. were controverted for telling men what they heard from God. Genuine men of God must be insulted, castigated and hated after all so have they learnt Christ. There were several men of God in the land but only John the Baptist could tell Herod,hei see you are into an immoral relationship. Christ said we must be hated for declaring the truth. It takes courage and grace to boldly tell the entire human race, see, this Christmas celebration is unscriptural. Leave Baba William(Defender of the faith) Kumuyi alone. 3 Likes |
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by kimco(m): 10:46pm On Dec 24, 2013 |
PAGAN 9JA: personally...any God dat can protect me from my enemies and not ask for my blood or my children's blood in return but rather my commitment to him which in itself isnt by force....that God can have every inch of me. God of peace...love and wonders...dats whom i ff. so yh...i choose da israeli God. 1 Like |
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