Missy B:

If there were no GOD,there would be no atheist.
Me think the xistence of atheists is a final proof that there is a God.

PS: _{To your concludin part}

Missy B:

_{mst you quote me?}

Well,I WAS TALKING ABOUT GOD OF THE BIBLE,THE ONLY TRUE GOD,THE FIRST AND THE LAST,ALPHA AND OMEGA,BEGINING AND THE END.ONE AND ALMIGHTY GOD,YOUR CREATOR.

huxley:

How can this god be the only true god when Sussicorn (Respect) [/b]clearly has more powers than the god of the bible?

They love to engage in endless, abstract, hypothetical, strange, controversial subjects based on endless speculations that usually lead to anger and strife. They seem incapable of accepting the fact that there are some things that cannot be explained, some things that just don't have an answer and cannot be "proven" as it leaves no room for faith which the bible tells us "is what we need in order to please God  

These "debates" are only an exercise in self-worship, a time for them to showcase their self-ascribed 'intelligence', thinking they have somehow attained an intellectual prowess that they have out-smarted God and the bible.
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rampant:

*yawns*

mazaje:

answer  the questions and stop yawning, you can call on the holy spirit to help you abi the holy spirit don run leave you?

rampant:

wetin consain me and u,so i no fit yawn again abi?

which question?u expect me to read your essays again,no way

infact to cut the long story short,i have no answer for u

if u need answers,do me a favour,look for God and charge him to court,ask him all d qestions you're asking us,question him wella wella,im sure he will give u d answers u want

good luck in d court case,Aurevoir mi schatz

JeSoul:

MissyB,
   "discussion" with them is pointless and fruitless as history on these very boards has even shown. I wonder sometimes how people get so angry and bitter and "intellectual" that they reach the point of saying there is no God? 

Missy B:

It beats me too.
Smtimes when i'm alone,i jst count so many things i have seen/xperienced that proves der's God den i wonder why people still think There's no God.Dunno!Dunno!Dunno!

If there's one thing i'm sure of its GOD IS REAL,TOO REAL AND TOO ABVIOUS THAT NUTTIN CAN MAKE ME DOUBT.[/b]A final proof of that he's omnipotence is [b] he doesn't have to exist before he saves us.

Jst a ques for Mazaje and cohort:What will you do when you die and find out there is a God?
I would respect your courage if you answer this ques without derailing it.

mazaje:

I will ask him/her why they allowed people to write the bible and manupulate it on their behalf, i will also ask them why they allowed so many religions to exist both in and out side the christain faith. i will ask them why they refused to reveal them selves to the billions of people living in asia and why they will all throw us in hell to burn in eternity simple because  we don not believe in jesus . but hey what if i die and discover that allah is the supreme being? i will still ask him the same questions any way.

JeSoul:

Mazaje,
I'll try to address some of your queries but please tell me, are you really intrested in the answers to these questions? or you just want to argue, ignore the responses and find more ammunition to try to bolster your position? because this is the reputation of Huxley and a couple others on these boards hence why many do not like to engage them in discussion.

Missy B:

If so,be it as you have said.You might jst be judged by your words rem but ma prayer is that you don't realise the truth when its too late.

Wordsmith:

. . . and that's where the problem lies. You always find the answers of a theist, Christians in particular, "irrational and palpably wrong". 'Til you rid yourself of your prejudice, you, and many others like you would always "find the answers irrational and palpably wrong".

Missy B:

Mazaje
I would gladly bear the consequences for ma action bhut one thing m sure of is MY GOD RULES

Missy B:

Mazaje
I would gladly bear the consequences for ma action bhut one thing m sure of is MY GOD RULES

mazaje:

@jesoul
please go anead and explain i am all ears and will listen to you intently.

there is nothing absract when i ask questions like why a loving , merciful and almighty god who refuses to reveal himself to the billions of people in indai, china, sri lanka, thialand, japan, bangledesh, taiwan etc in the bible because there is no mention of them and there is no biblical prohets amongst them even though they were in existance during the so called time of the bible prophets and jesus, will then burn them in hell for eternity simply they do not know or havent heard about jesus. does that make sense to you? how about the billions of moslems that do not know about jesus because they were born into the islamic religion, will they all rot in hell too?

who are the real chrianstains? are they the catholics(over 1 billion of them) , or the so many other sects of chriatainity(over 30 thousand sects) each fighting and knocking heads with each other. back in 2002 my pastor said that catholics and the white garmet wearing churches are not chriatains and for that they will all end up in hell. does that make sense to you.

if you were born in kano to a muslim family you would have been passoinately defending islam with the same vigor . if there is a god he won't depend on people to propagate his message he will do it him self, because people have failed completely in doing so.

JeSoul:

Alright . . .
Now there is no question that millions of people have lived and died without knowing or ever hearing the Name Jesus. Will these people end up in hell simply because they weren't 'fortunate' to have heard about Jesus? No, of course not that would be grossly unfair and the bible tells us that God is a just God.
The bible does not give a definitive answer on this, but because we know that God is just, we can have faith(that all-important element) that He has already laid out another way for them to be possibly saved, or perhaps they'll be judged in a different way, I cannot say for certain. But what I'm certain about is that God is just and fair.
Every denomination claims to be the right way, I know that myself . So who is right? it is a very valid question. And it comes down to faith. The bible teaches that the only way to get to heaven is through Jesus Christ - and I believe it. I cannot prove to you my belief, because it is based on faith and the witness of the Spirit of God in my heart. That's why each person has to find God for themselves.

Now this begs the question, what about those who have faith in their gods? islam? hindus? etc . . . The difference is a relationship with the God of the bible is so real and personal it does not need outward validation. God reveals Himself to me in many ways, and when I see His words and promises manifested in my life daily, it convinces me further that He is real. Unfortunately my experience is not transferrable so that I can "prove" and show to you why I persist in Him, God is personal to each person, you have to find Him for yourself.
Part of the beauty of the God in the bible is that He uses and accomplishes great things through feeble human beings. So that in doing so we recognize His greatness in pulling off such a feat. And who says "people have failed completely in doing so"? Someone preached the gospel to me, and I believed it. And have continued to believe it for many years - I would say that person (Godbless him) did not fail at all.

have you read the history of the bible? why are there over 80 translation of the englsih bible alone, when did the bible become the bible? why are there some with 66 and other with more than 66 books. why is there the greek, aramic etc versions of the bible, why can't chriatains produce a universally acceptable book and doctorines? are jehova witness, seven day adventist, grail message, catholics etc christains? who wrote the first four books of the bible, it is written that moses did, moses can not write about his birth, death and events after his death. why is it still written that moses is the author of the first four books, if he is not really the author. why were there other books written by other apostels that were not included in the bible, who publish the 66 books of the bible and why did he publish only 66 books? martin luther did and he did it to suite his own understanding and promote his own agenda. was the bible 66 books 200 years before martin luther? the answer is no. it was much more than 66 books why is it now 66 in some version and about seventy in some? wihch one are people to believe? why is it that jesus is the only person in history who's name was changed from esau to jesus? why is it that people have to accapet jesus as his name? his name was never jesus because nobody with the name jesus ever existed in the time of esua, why is his name now jesus?

mazaje:

Thanks for your honest answers. you tried to answer to the best of your abilities which is cool to me. am not convinced but keep it real is all i have to say.