azimibraun: Can the physician alone do the job? That is just one person's opinion. Its jst semantic. Ppl's relationship smtime if cordial makes them overlook policies. To (aid) a physician is strictly does not translate to bin a servant of the physician. The work is cut out for both parties by the laws governing the hospital and practice. Let the chief pharnacist head the pharmacy dept, let the chief Nursing officer head the Nursing dept, let a chief or Senior doctor head the doctors as an adminitrator or any of the chiefs frm the various depts can head the hospital. It mst not be the Doctors only.

yomi007k:
They do so everywhere in the world.

dexterinc2003: Once again....i would like 2 remix a previous post..

Kubbler Ross stages of grief........

1.DENIAL
2.ANGER
3.BARGAINING
4.DEPRESSION
5.ACCEPTANCE


The FG is on stage 3(BARGAINING)...while JOHESU is on stage 4(DEPRESSION)....the unfortunate general populace is on stage 2(ANGER).
The strike will be called off when everyone meets at stage 5(ACCEPTANCE).
Tilll then,keep dropping your comments while avoiding the needful.
Im waiting for the slow olodo still on stage 1(DENIAL)to come and quote me.

infolekan:
And you seem to think the major problem with that isn't our health facilities? We just don't have the equipments. Name any sector in Nigeria where we have any facility in the top 100 anything in the world.
Read about malpractice in the US or UK with their advanced machines and you'll realise half of what it takes to make a diagnosis.
For me.....Nurses and Pharmacists are professionals in their field,we just need a proper job description.

infolekan:

That's what's obtainable. The Pharmacists head the Pharmacy dept....the Nurses the Nursing dept.
You should have known these before posting comments here. Doubt you even know what the whole fight is all about.

aaidel: all these people are not being sincere, i have experienced several family members being hospitalized and have seen the ugly side of all these so called professionals is it the nurses that will not empty urine bags, or that will sit for hours waiting for a dr to come put in an iv line, or is it the dr's that are so arrogant that they don't take the time to explain anything concisely or even berate you for not having money for some expensive therapies. As long as all of the health workers don't realize that they are in a customer service industry and act accordingly the nigerian medical system is in and will remain in trouble.

uyplus:

Please tell me Pharmacist don't know anything too. That we Just dispense the drugs according to da docs prescription plan.. Loool.. glad Pharmacy has got a faculty of it's own and not under the Medical sciences.

My friend did his internship at LUTH and der was this incidence he gisted me about. A prescription came in for him to attend. It was written by a 'consultant' and when he was done screening the prescription, he noticed grave therapeutics errors. He then sent a stapled note back to the doc to review the prescription..and ds doc who claims to be all knowing sent the patient back and told him that if the pharmacist refuses to dispense the drugs, he should tell him. My friend just did the simplest thing. Went up to the consultant office, the consultant was so arrogant because he had Hs fellow consultants all sitted there. He just told the consultant, pleases counter sign this prescription and I will dispense it as soon as I leave your office. Guess what, the consultant never did and evn askd him what was wrong and he should suggest what changes needs to be made.

Now that is the attitude of an average doc. Do they evn know drugs? How many docs can convert international units to million units? And dey wear ward coat parading everywhere. Soon they will say only docs shd wear ward coats in the hospital. Who are they to say no other profession shd be called consultants and 'dr'. Bunch of eediots!!

pluto3: This is not abt writing articles... this your article is as foolish as i tink u r.... CMD has been existing ever since and now u want to change it to ur own benefit... johesu is just a coward entity.... since u said u r d same as a doctor... den go ahead n do wat dey need to do since dey r on strike... when nurses n johesu went on strike... d younger doctors were doing d work of nurses n even running lab tests... am not trying to say doctors dont need johesu..but rather hospital is known for doctors, nurses n others...even though d nurses hav decided to join johesu... so i tink d strike shud continue... until EVERY thing get back on track...simple...

Morotov1: Facilities and equipments are part of the problem but the major problem is .....we have only 270,000 doctors serving 170,000,000 people. So its time for alternatives, let's look for what works for other countries and institute here to get our health indices high again.
Clip the wings of our health professionals by
.................
Getting lawyers involve to sue their assess off for any gross malpractices and negligence to make them buckle up or even revoke their license.
Get the economic analyst in to establish laws of demand and supply; professionals on high demands to earn more, those working in hard to reach area to earn more....etc.
Get health administrators to manage the health facilities and the personnels working there.
@ Job description, it seems from the post of these professionals especially on nairaland , doctors proudly find it legal to encroach on others profession when the laws states otherwise.

Onlinebizexpert: all I see from this article is a pained NURSE who probably is trying to show us that he has better prowess in vocabulary than SENATOR PATRICK OBAHIAGBON


you are trying to address an issue by writing an article to both medics and non medics and all you do is to use medical jargons in all your statement so that readers of your article would see that you are equal or even better than a doctor.


since you claim that you got better grades than the student doctors in your time...why don't you just dress up and walk to the nearest hospital and start attending to patients since DOCTOR ARE DISPENSABLE and probably you have gone to more conferences than them

I am not against your views but I can see that your anger is not directed to the issue at hand but to some personal ego based grudges you have against doctors if not you would not have written the trash i just quoted

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non medics dont understand that most nurses are simply angry that a newly graduated doctor can just ORDER them around even though they might have stayed in the hospital before the young man/ woman entered medical school

to be sincere in this war of power neither the DOCTORS' view nor the NURSES VIEW matters , what matters is the PATIENTS WELLBEING

i have gone to some hospitals where they claim that NURSES are now attending to patients, i stepped in without even being on doctors regalia all the patients ran away from the nurses so that they can get better care from a doctor

it is not about grammer or the amount of medical jargons you can speak, no matter your intelligence, your degree, qualification, money, where you read a NURSE CAN NEVER EVER USURP THE ROLE OF A DOCTOR WHO KNOWS HIS JOB WELL

so mr professor in nursing and midwivery, when you have developed extra balls enter the hospitals and take over the role of a doctor just for one day I believe you will understand that you would just be a QUALIFIED SERIAL KILLER


thanks and God bless you

GOD BLESS NIGERIA

GOD HELP THE PATIENTS

Onlinebizexpert: all I see from this article is a pained NURSE who probably is trying to show us that he has better prowess in vocabulary than SENATOR PATRICK OBAHIAGBON


you are trying to address an issue by writing an article to both medics and non medics and all you do is to use medical jargons in all your statement so that readers of your article would see that you are equal or even better than a doctor.



It's not about equality , but knowing your job description and accepting that we've got good nurse's and good doctor's, we equally av bad nurse's and bad doctor's .. if u av insight , u should understand that 'a pineapple and an apple' are both Good fruits, they taste good, but one is not better than the other. I rest my case




since you claim that you got better grades than the student doctors in your time...why don't you just dress up and walk to the nearest hospital and start attending to patients since DOCTOR ARE DISPENSABLE and probably you have gone to more conferences than them

I am not against your views but I can see that your anger is not directed to the issue at hand but to some personal ego based grudges you have against doctors if not you would not have written the trash i just quoted

vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv


non medics dont understand that most nurses are simply angry that a newly graduated doctor can just ORDER them around even though they might have stayed in the hospital before the young man/ woman entered medical school

to be sincere in this war of power neither the DOCTORS' view nor the NURSES VIEW matters , what matters is the PATIENTS WELLBEING

i have gone to some hospitals where they claim that NURSES are now attending to patients, i stepped in without even being on doctors regalia all the patients ran away from the nurses so that they can get better care from a doctor

it is not about grammer or the amount of medical jargons you can speak, no matter your intelligence, your degree, qualification, money, where you read a NURSE CAN NEVER EVER USURP THE ROLE OF A DOCTOR WHO KNOWS HIS JOB WELL

so mr professor in nursing and midwivery, when you have developed extra balls enter the hospitals and take over the role of a doctor just for one day I believe you will understand that you would just be a QUALIFIED SERIAL KILLER


thanks and God bless you

GOD BLESS NIGERIA

GOD HELP THE PATIENTS

FDenigma:

Encroach on other professionals? You've got it backwards. The doctor allowed these paramedics to encroach into his profession because of the need for better patient care. I understand that the stature of the doctor inspires jealousy especially in our unenlightened population. Put your emotions aside and reason from a rational point of view. Use this current strike to assess the effectiveness of these health professionals when a doctor isn't supervising.

Waspy: Your ignorance will be cleared when you are enlightened.... the author of the article is a male with a friable stature

elohorayodele: My friend has had pain on his left shoulder for 2weeks, Reddington diagnosed HBP, Cedarcrest said its a muscle tear, both gave him several injections, drugs n lotions to use in massaging it but the pain only grew worse. He found an indian doctor by chance who diagnosed acute Ca deficiency , gave him some drugs. Indian dr was so furious the last Nigerian doctor injected him at the back muscles that he insisted he calls him to ask why! The Naija dr could not defend himself when confronted. My friend after some hours used that arm to lift stuff for the first time in two weeks. Beware of Naija doctors and misdiagnosis.

elohorayodele: My friend has had pain on his left shoulder for 2weeks, Reddington diagnosed HBP, Cedarcrest said its a muscle tear, both gave him several injections, drugs n lotions to use in massaging it but the pain only grew worse. He found an indian doctor by chance who diagnosed acute Ca deficiency , gave him some drugs. Indian dr was so furious the last Nigerian doctor injected him at the back muscles that he insisted he calls him to ask why! The Naija dr could not defend himself when confronted. My friend after some hours used that arm to lift stuff for the first time in two weeks. Beware of Naija doctors and misdiagnosis.

otokx: The thing about discussing with people of low mentality is that they reduce you to their low level and then go further to finish you.

Look at the write up and the premise and logic build. So incoherent, hear the writer say he took classes with biochemistry and physiology students. Those are not medicine students, he did a debate with medicine students on international and national issues and he won. They did not debate on health issues. He wrote an exam based on past mcq of medicine. Chai - this must be an expose in low self esteem aka inferiority complex.

A nurse will always be a nurse and that is to care for the patient and aid the doctor. Be happy and content with what you do. This being content and proud of what you do is a problem in Nigeria.

VirginFinder:

The bolded is what angers me!

How can an able-bodied man be proud to be a nurse/midwife?

Why should a man go into a female profession - so pink collar in nature?

Can you imagine a male doctor and male nurse working together?
Looks absurd!

Honestly, if I were a doctor, I can't and will never work with a male nurse.
It makes me look gay!!

Sincerely, who would you be proud of the most, your nurse son or doctor daughter?

Women are by nature programmed to see men as the head/leader/boss.

Hence, female nurses/midwives are more often than not contented with their status in the hospital.

sisiafrika: . You are simply a looser, and to think you are schooled? I'm avoiding d word educated cos obviously you are an uneducated literate. In this time and age? You have this wrapped mentality? You mind, psyche and soul need redemption. No offense

Morotov1: Facilities and equipments are part of the problem but the major problem is .....we have only 270,000 doctors serving 170,000,000 people.
@ Job description, it seems from the post of these professionals especially on nairaland , doctors proudly find it legal to encroach on others profession when the laws states otherwise.

ignis: Are medical practitioners supposed to even embark on strike?
I thought the major driving force to the profession is passion to save lives.

azimibraun: I don't expect a Doctor or any relative of a Doctor to agree with this article but the truth is that the time has come. The doctors are finaly going to lose respect in the eyes of the population. They have beed suspect all the while but this would represent their fall to grass from grace. From my conversation with folks on the development in the health sector and frm what I saw on Channels TV sunrisedaily yesterday, Doctors are going to lose a whole lot of respect by the time this is over no matter how relevant they are. Nigerians are now seeing them as selfish ambitious ppl more than the Nobles they ouught to be.

heykims: With all due respect,a medical doctor's line of duty can never be threatened by a nurse, what do nurses know?
A nurse is only there to carry out d plans documented by d doctor, their job is just to execute d doctors' order, so i don't see any threat to d line of profession of a magistrate who sentences by d prison officials who carries out d order.
As such, d little clinical experience re only derived when carrying out d docs' plan of management, so they then get to learn different lines of management of various health conditions from d docs' documentation, they av no formal training.
Nursing students ain't taught ow to examine patients nd neither do they acquire skills of diagnosing in school (who will even teach them when even d qualified nurses don't know it coz it isn't required to discharge their duties), so i then begin to wonder if it is even appropriate for nurses to establish coz they don't av d formal training to manage patients..
In fact it is funny nd i see it abnormal also coz once a nurse graduates from school wt a degree (Bnsc or so), she doesnt require any further education to get promotion to d highest nursing rank, she/he just sits carrying out docs' plan nd promotion keeps coming wt years spent. This is absurd..

heykims: With all due respect,a medical doctor's line of duty can never be threatened by a nurse, what do nurses know?
A nurse is only there to carry out d plans documented by d doctor, their job is just to execute d doctors' order, so i don't see any threat to d line of profession of a magistrate who sentences by d prison officials who carries out d order.
As such, d little clinical experience re only derived when carrying out d docs' plan of management, so they then get to learn different lines of management of various health conditions from d docs' documentation, they av no formal training.
Nursing students ain't taught ow to examine patients nd neither do they acquire skills of diagnosing in school (who will even teach them when even d qualified nurses don't know it coz it isn't required to discharge their duties), so i then begin to wonder if it is even appropriate for nurses to establish coz they don't av d formal training to manage patients..
In fact it is funny nd i see it abnormal also coz once a nurse graduates from school wt a degree (Bnsc or so), she doesnt require any further education to get promotion to d highest nursing rank, she/he just sits carrying out docs' plan nd promotion keeps coming wt years spent. This is absurd..