bigwallace: google is ur frnd my brother,y dnt u google d stat of both players,den u compare nd contrast.afTa den u ask urself if u wer d coach wich of d players wud u av chosen,

kannymoore:

Bros...

KESHI's TeCHNICAL KNOW-HOW is ZERO!

Keshi played two matches @ the same CHAN 11 against 10 for large periods yet we couldn't win those matches.. Heck! We couldn't even dominate the game. I also remember our first Mexico friendly.. We played with a against the mexicans 11 against 10 for large stretches of the game yet we surrendered a 2-0 lead!

Keshi aint a good coach. He was just lucky we won the Afcon.

why my opinion?

Cos after Afcon, he only WON 4 out of 15 grade A MATCHES!!! Of that 4, 2 were against lowly Ethiopia.

And yet the guy is angling for 10million as salary??!!

NONSENSE and INGREDIENTS!!!!!!

nijanigga:
Nigeria is a failure.so soccer alone cant save us.

ijechikky: my broda,,we naturally forget our beginin too fast,keshi was given a target to reach semi finals in nations cup nd qualify us for World-cup..He went beyond the target and set new records..

amadice: .....google and wikipedia are ur friends....fegnor ogude made just 7 appearance for amkar perm in d russia league nosa igiebor was a bench warmer an got injuried i d better half of last season. Mereto i guess a coach like u would hav take them to d world cup...clueless you

BabaO2:
Hey...!, players abilities, scoring goals are not done by the coaches, we are talking about technical inputs of the coach, his choice of substitutions, his technical reformations immediately a goal is scored or looking for goals etc Keshi doesn't have any of these. If Ejide had caught malaria and Enyeama had injury I wondered who would've manned the post.

ghananotnaija:

Ghana does not look up to Nigeria.

EagleScribes: @OP, could you please suggest at least three of your -"world class and tactical" coaches that you think can replace Keshi and excel under the same working conditions and salary. Can anyone in this forum suggest?

If you can't, there's no point for this debate

NB - I hope someone will say David Moyes and Roy Hodgson

Emmysteve: MUMU you go and replace him na. Ediots keeps hating while Keshi keeps breaking new record. I am ready for any bastard that doesn't want Nigeria success.

hollandis: Nigerians and mediocrity ,just like horses and carriages

donaremu: @Poster: I believe we had a bad World Cup. If the Ref had allowed Dzeko's goal maybe we wouldn't have qualified for the 2nd round. 1 draw, 1 ref assisted win, 2 losses and a bad team is not good enough 4 me. [b][/b]

Keshi deserves to stay if he like, he has proved to be our best local coach so far. He took an average team and turn it to be the best in Africa and second round slot at the world-cup, what else do you want?
If Dzeko's goal stands, then our goal against Iran too should stand.
If you think he is not tactical enough with his achievement, why not suggest that he should be sent on further training.

tonytony208:


you pple keep on flogging this tactical/ technical competency issue. How did he beat CIV and Mali at NC? how did he beat Morocco at chan from 3 goals down? How will you describe musa's first and second goals against Argentina? So you think a tactically incompetent coach would have been able to bring that out of a team (i mean musa had never been a regular scorer for SE)? If you call his achievements mere luck, then it means you will go to any length to make his achievements look like nothing; a disgusting sign of pure hate.

Mr man a beg leave keshi alone. He has shown he is better than any other coach nigeria had ever employed aside westerhof and as a result, he deserves to be retained. What he needs is time and not your pullhimdown tactics and pitiably destructive criticism.

MegMich:

Sentiments!!! That's what is killing us!
Rafa Benitez was sacked by Liverpool and Inter when it was obvious he's hit the dead end with ideas.
Mourinho was shown the door by Chelsea. His problem? He failed in European competition. Guess what? Even when RDM delivered,he still was kicked out when he started under performing.
Need not talk of Frank Rijkaard, Great Maradona, Zola, Seedorf etc
Its clear Keshi has ran out of luck.
His problems are so numerous it doesn't drop but rains.
took a less than mediocre team to WC.
Refused to substitute his golden boy Mikelis Obilis.
Had no plan B.
Abeg Keshi waka go!
We are better than this.
His ego is the most annoying part--he said many countries are interested in him! Oga, who ask you?
NFF dey mess up sha!!! But sincerely, we can do a whole lot better post Keshi.
I rep Naija.

Fulaman198: He is a coach that does not take responsibility for his actions. He is not a humble human being, he is always boasting and bragging about achievements, yet he does not achieve. He is not a tactical coach and he does not know how to adapt like the best coaches in the world. He blamed a player for the loss against France instead of being a man/coach and taking the blame upon himself like Scholari did when Brazil lost 7-1. Keshi is not a pleasant human being. I don't even know why some people want him around.

tonytony208:

you are on point bro. Why should we keep such an unpleasant human being like keshi around when we have a pleasant-online-coach human being like you around? At least your comment has shown everyone how pleasant-to-a-fault you must be (my foot).

MegMich:

Sentiments!!! That's what is killing us!
Rafa Benitez was sacked by Liverpool and Inter when it was obvious he's hit the dead end with ideas.
Mourinho was shown the door by Chelsea. His problem? He failed in European competition. Guess what? Even when RDM delivered,he still was kicked out when he started under performing.
Need not talk of Frank Rijkaard, Great Maradona, Zola, Seedorf etc
Its clear Keshi has ran out of luck.
His problems are so numerous it doesn't drop but rains.
took a less than mediocre team to WC.
Refused to substitute his golden boy Mikelis Obilis.
Had no plan B.
Abeg Keshi waka go!
We are better than this.
His ego is the most annoying part--he said many countries are interested in him! Oga, who ask you?
NFF dey mess up sha!!! But sincerely, we can do a whole lot better post Keshi.
I rep Naija.

Fulaman198:

I didn't expect anything less from a Keshi supporter. No coach EVER blames their player. Who does that. I'm too young to coach the team maybe in 10 years when I'm more age appropriate. If a team loses, coach always takes full responsibility. No questions asked.

dabossman: Interesting. So Keshi is now the problem with Nigerian football. Since 2008 our football has gone downhill. We've won nothing but golden bronze at the Nations Cup for years and finally failed to even qualify for 2012 edition. We've failed to make it past the group stage at two World Cups and even failed to qualify for the 2006 edition, but of course Keshi is the problem with our football. After all, if not for Keshi's "tactical" ineptitude we would have won the World Cup instead of Germany.

We've had coaches like Onigbinde, Chukwu, Eguaveon, Siasia and even "world class" coaches like Berti Vogts and Lars Largerback who all didn't achieve anything spectacular even when they had better teams, but lets blame Keshi for that too.

Save for Enyeama, no Nigerian player can boast of being in the top 10-20 for their positions in global football. Most of them play in the back leagues of Ukraine, Russia, Israel, Belgium, Norway and so on. Those who play in the big leagues either warm the bench or play for mid-table teams, but that too is Keshi's fault. Since Okocha, I don't know of any Nigerian player who is the designated corner-kick or free-kick expert for their clubside, but let's blame Keshi for that too.

KESHI please take a walk. Let NFF give Nigerians their "world class", "tactical" coach. Maybe Scolari, Del Bosque, or even Joachim Loew. They are all world Cup winners after all.

Fulaman198:

Keshi is part of the problem, I would say that our football started going downhill before 2008. Where were we in the 2006 World Cup? Also in 2002, we didn't get to the 2nd round.

The bigger problem is the NFF. We don't have a scouting/recruiting programme like the Germans, Dutch and Brazilians do. A programme in which every 36 state has someone or some people going around schools scouting for youth talent between the ages of 5 and 15. The NFF is not orgranised and quite corrupt.

tonytony208:

how did keshi contribute to football failure in 2002, 2004, 2006, 2008 and 2010? How is he part of the problem? In all those past years, nigeria never could dream beyond 3rd place in nation's cup. Now you are calling for the head of the man who took away your shame after 19 years.

Fulaman198:

Keshi is part of the problem, I would say that our football started going downhill before 2008. Where were we in the 2006 World Cup? Also in 2002, we didn't get to the 2nd round.

The bigger problem is the NFF. We don't have a scouting/recruiting programme like the Germans, Dutch and Brazilians do. A programme in which every 36 state has someone or some people going around schools scouting for youth talent between the ages of 5 and 15. The NFF is not orgranised and quite corrupt.

dabossman:

Sorry, I meant 1998. You say Keshi is part of the problem, but I say Keshi is just a victim of the system. What has the NFF contributed to making Keshi better than he is other than constantly looking for ways to discredit him so they can bring in their foreign coach? As you stated, where are the developmental programs to unearth and harness youth talents. We wonder why our players are not good at set-pieces? It's because you learn such technical skills at a young age, not when you are already 17. Folks here talk about Keshi's tactics, but your tactics are only as good as they players who will execute them. We lack quality players. Keshi has tried with the rag-tag team his has.

Fulaman198:

His problem is his attitude. If you can not see that, then no offence to you man you are very blinded. He is about 20% of the problem, the other 80% is the NFF. I am talking about present day. Iran's coach illustrated that no matter what calibre of players you have, you can do quite well. I can tell you right now that if Nigeria had Iran's coach, or some other true tactician, no matter how bad Nigeria's squad had been, Nigeria would have performed better.

In most games, Keshi just sat down completely oblivious to the way his team was performing. Whenever there was a poor performance, he blamed everyone except himself. I don't like coaches like that. A good coach would take blame and discuss in details how he plans on improving for the next match instead of beating about the bush.

Keshi comes of as someone very brash and unprofessional and Nigeria is better off without him.