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Re: Why We Can’t Call Off The Strike Because Of Ebola Outbreak – Lagos Medical Docto by prettyprettywow: 4:11pm On Jul 26, 2014
Kcinho:
And who are these public health specialists?
you don't know who public health specialists are in this 21st century?
Re: Why We Can’t Call Off The Strike Because Of Ebola Outbreak – Lagos Medical Docto by Kcinho(m): 4:19pm On Jul 26, 2014
prettyprettywow: you don't know who public health specialists are in this 21st century?
Go on and tell me.

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Re: Why We Can’t Call Off The Strike Because Of Ebola Outbreak – Lagos Medical Docto by emog17(m): 4:26pm On Jul 26, 2014
onagoodday:
Did you just say 9yrs....abeg who say make u dey fail...carry ur frustration go one side.
there are few medical schools in Nigeria that does medicine for 6yrs(only few fed uni) most are 7, 8 or 9yrs and it is nt because the person repeated year or ASUU strikes bt due to accreditation and re-accreditation problems most schools wt MDCN. evn in u.s and many parts of d world before u become a medical doctor u'll spend nothing less than 8yrs( 4yrs pre-med and 4yrs med)before u become a medical doctor. And mind u, it is nt jst 6yrs bt 6yrs of rigorous training without holidays(except easter and Xmas)and mch time to socialize. Imagine u doing anatomy, physiology & biochemistry in 18months that students dat major in these courses do for 4yrs each and u're expected to knw it better than them. I'm nt evn talking abt the clinical courses;pathology, pharmacology, Paediatrics, obstetrics & gynecology, community medicine, surgery, psychiatry, radiology, ophthalmology, internal medicine, ward rounds, clinics, etc all these in jst 3yrs and u must be grounded in them. Now tell me those johesu dat studied 4 4 or 5yrs wat and wat do they do and how detailed do they go into it? It is nt the number of yrs u spent in sch dat matters bt wat u did within ur duration of study.

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Re: Why We Can’t Call Off The Strike Because Of Ebola Outbreak – Lagos Medical Docto by emog17(m): 4:27pm On Jul 26, 2014
onagoodday:
Did you just say 9yrs....abeg who say make u dey fail...carry ur frustration go one side.
there are few medical schools in Nigeria that does medicine for 6yrs(only few fed uni) most are 7, 8 or 9yrs and it is nt because the person repeated year or ASUU strikes bt due to accreditation and re-accreditation problems most schools wt MDCN. evn in u.s and many parts of d world before u become a medical doctor u'll spend nothing less than 8yrs( 4yrs pre-med and 4yrs med)before u become a medical doctor. And mind u, it is nt jst 6yrs bt 6yrs of rigorous training without holidays(except easter and Xmas)and mch time to socialize. Imagine u doing anatomy, physiology & biochemistry in 18months that students dat major in these courses do for 4yrs each and u're expected to knw it better than them. I'm nt evn talking abt the clinical courses;pathology, pharmacology, Paediatrics, obstetrics & gynecology, community medicine, surgery, psychiatry, radiology, ophthalmology, internal medicine, ward rounds, clinics, etc all these in jst 3yrs and u must be grounded in them. Now tell me those johesu dat studied 4 4 or 5yrs wat and wat do they do and how detailed do they go into it? It is nt the number of yrs u spent in sch dat matters bt wat u did within ur duration of study. Please stop saying wat you dnt knw.

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Re: Why We Can’t Call Off The Strike Because Of Ebola Outbreak – Lagos Medical Docto by Odika1: 4:55pm On Jul 26, 2014
EBOLA-Sounds like yoruba name.
Re: Why We Can’t Call Off The Strike Because Of Ebola Outbreak – Lagos Medical Docto by dexterinc2003: 5:52pm On Jul 26, 2014
monex:
i ve got just one question for you: re you a doctor?

if you are then it is terribly unfortunate. i highly doubt it sha. False information that can create panic is not the approach of a doctor.


Normally i wouldnt try 2 correct ur ignorance....but just b4 u infect others.i'll be glad if u can mention how many cases of d virus u know that has been treated successfully in nigeria.case fatality ratio in nigeria remains 100percent currently...whether you choose 2 panic or not is left 2 u,but will not change the truth...prevention is key and get educated..google is your friend @ least.
Re: Why We Can’t Call Off The Strike Because Of Ebola Outbreak – Lagos Medical Docto by Vincenzi: 5:57pm On Jul 26, 2014
ismokeweed:
Such pain. Another pathetic lab rat. A doctor must have fvcked ur gal. Ur rants won't undo d damage.
You are obviously too dumb to even know how to live your life right. Pained you say? I'm not the one who runs amok like a demented fool,calling health professionals ''rats''. I'm not the dumb individual who has no regard for other people. Fvcking my girlfriend is no biggie. She was not forced,right? Its her punny. Grow up,kiddo. Life does not end btw a woman's legs. Or does yours end there? Sick fool.

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Re: Why We Can’t Call Off The Strike Because Of Ebola Outbreak – Lagos Medical Docto by franklininu: 6:44pm On Jul 26, 2014
]Lab rats/scientists... do the needful. Since you want Same title and privileges as doctors, then do their work


B4 u start spiting fire, have u ask urself if a doctor can even change anythin in this situation.. their is no drug for effectiv treatment for now and everybody is looking up to the pharmacist and the scientist for that. If we have d facility here At least the lab scientist can identify and tell u this person ve d ebola virus.

We have a situation at hand, nobody is immune to this virus, so learn to talk..
Re: Why We Can’t Call Off The Strike Because Of Ebola Outbreak – Lagos Medical Docto by franklininu: 6:47pm On Jul 26, 2014
Vincenzi:
You are obviously too dumb to even know how to live your life right. Pained you say? I'm not the one who runs amok like a demented fool,calling health professionals ''rats''. I'm not the dumb individual who has no regard for other people. Fvcking my girlfriend is no biggie. She was not forced,right? Its her punny. Grow up,kiddo. Life does not end btw a woman's legs. Or does yours end there? Sick fool.
Re: Why We Can’t Call Off The Strike Because Of Ebola Outbreak – Lagos Medical Docto by franklininu: 6:49pm On Jul 26, 2014
Just dont mind him
Re: Why We Can’t Call Off The Strike Because Of Ebola Outbreak – Lagos Medical Docto by franklininu: 6:52pm On Jul 26, 2014
[quote author=Odika1]EBOLA-Sounds like yoruba name

.[hmmm]
Re: Why We Can’t Call Off The Strike Because Of Ebola Outbreak – Lagos Medical Docto by BetaThings: 6:54pm On Jul 26, 2014
Onegai: Fear.

Nigerians don't like risking their lives for anything. Have you seen LUTH, GH Island or any GH? Do we even have protective suits for hazardous illnesses? Health workers are more likely to catch it than regular people. So the strike will linger and doctors will refuse to go back.

My brother has already given out tips: I've got hand sanitizer and I may end up getting plastic gloves and a face-mask. No-one is sure if it can turn airborne at close contact (100m), which is what to expect if you use the Lagos public transport. And danfo conductors, wetin concern am with hand sanitizer, even the girl who sold me mine at the phramacy was telling me "only Jesus saves" and not using hand sanitizer till I eyed her, she laughed and used a bit. And Nigerians are forever coughing/sneezing into their hands or turning away to their side to do so/spit, then wiping on their clothes and handing you money.
Our hospitals aren't equipped to deal with this and should they find 5 more victims, most will shut down in panic (those head matrons at GH will be the first to abscond).

Don't bother
Just leave Nigeria
Will you live alone - you don't enter taxis, or carry people in your car
Where do you buy food from
Do you have cause to walk on the streets
The girl who sold that sanitizer was close enough to pass it on
Consider the encounters
School, work, your mechanic who can even leave the virus in the car, neighbour, inside the lift etc
Re: Why We Can’t Call Off The Strike Because Of Ebola Outbreak – Lagos Medical Docto by Nobody: 7:46pm On Jul 26, 2014
Vincenzi:
You are obviously too dumb to even know how to live your life right. Pained you say? I'm not the one who runs amok like a demented fool,calling health professionals ''rats''. I'm not the dumb individual who has no regard for other people. Fvcking my girlfriend is no biggie. She was not forced,right? Its her punny. Grow up,kiddo. Life does not end btw a woman's legs. Or does yours end there? Sick fool.
Dirty lab rat.
Re: Why We Can’t Call Off The Strike Because Of Ebola Outbreak – Lagos Medical Docto by joeyemi: 8:19pm On Jul 26, 2014
No need to insult the johesu guys,they dnt knw wot we knw so there is no way they can see from our own perspective.
Re: Why We Can’t Call Off The Strike Because Of Ebola Outbreak – Lagos Medical Docto by Lacombre: 8:41pm On Jul 26, 2014
ismokeweed:
Dirty lab rat.
SMH. What a child.

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Re: Why We Can’t Call Off The Strike Because Of Ebola Outbreak – Lagos Medical Docto by Nobody: 9:16pm On Jul 26, 2014
Onegai: Fear.

Nigerians don't like risking their lives for anything. Have you seen LUTH, GH Island or any GH? Do we even have protective suits for hazardous illnesses? Health workers are more likely to catch it than regular people. So the strike will linger and doctors will refuse to go back.

My brother has already given out tips: I've got hand sanitizer and I may end up getting plastic gloves and a face-mask. No-one is sure if it can turn airborne at close contact (100m), which is what to expect if you use the Lagos public transport. And danfo conductors, wetin concern am with hand sanitizer, even the girl who sold me mine at the phramacy was telling me "only Jesus saves" and not using hand sanitizer till I eyed her, she laughed and used a bit. And Nigerians are forever coughing/sneezing into their hands or turning away to their side to do so/spit, then wiping on their clothes and handing you money.
Our hospitals aren't equipped to deal with this and should they find 5 more victims, most will shut down in panic (those head matrons at GH will be the first to abscond).

you so addressed the issue i raised recently when telling a friend what we have in our hands by simply ignoring this huge threat.

This ebola is sure going to spread real fast in this coming weeks and it could rise to as high as 1000s new infections per day IF the news that the first confirmed dead liberian only had contact with health workers is false.

at the time of his collapse, travelers around sure would have helped him thereby having his sweat on their palms, these infected palms are likely to shake relatives and friends who came to pickup who in turn pick their nose on their way back home.
probably get home, gives spouse, spouse to kids, kids to neighbors and schools, schools to other kids, kids take it home.... see this is a serious one we have here on our hands.

We as a country chose to ignore and just hope somehow, the problem will go away.
to bad.
btw, with that virus on a commercial plane and the volume of travelers around the world, the whole world has it already, lets forget this.
Re: Why We Can’t Call Off The Strike Because Of Ebola Outbreak – Lagos Medical Docto by codeddj: 11:56pm On Jul 26, 2014
Smartsyn: Heartless mufus, not in anyway different from our politicians..
Guy dnt be blinded by your ignorance,if yu r nt even medically inclined or @least updated u cud aswell nt seee d sense in what the docs r fighting for...
Re: Why We Can’t Call Off The Strike Because Of Ebola Outbreak – Lagos Medical Docto by Cityguy: 1:12am On Jul 27, 2014
victor08: [size=28pt]Useless Doctors...your mates are busy now working in developed countries,saving lives and adding value. All you people know is start demanding salary increase like street laborers. Stay at home! Hunger and Ebola go soon kill you people.

Greedy Doctors[/size]
Am not happy that you sent your brain on 'French' leave. You need to record the arrant nonsense you spewed up on a tape and play it over and over. Perhaps you might be able to find your bearing. Then, come back and yearn. No be this kain opata again ooo

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Re: Why We Can’t Call Off The Strike Because Of Ebola Outbreak – Lagos Medical Docto by Cityguy: 1:40am On Jul 27, 2014
lakamua: wen u are tired of complaining go and force NMA to call of d strike. nigerians are rili selfish things and get what they deserve
Don't mind them. They are worse than the Egyptian task masters. It doesn't concern them whether the docs are happy or not once THEIR OWN health needs are met. 'Bamubamu ni mo yo' people. Some even see the allowance issue as 'unreasonable' in their own opinion. The doc should have asked for 'better equipments' for the hospitals. That's what concerns them, not the living standard or hostilities he's facing at work from his supposed 'team members'. That to me reeks of selfishness too.

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Re: Why We Can’t Call Off The Strike Because Of Ebola Outbreak – Lagos Medical Docto by Cityguy: 1:41am On Jul 27, 2014
nationwide24: You call them heartless now but remember you said they are worthless. Another opportunity for JOHESU to prove they can do it in the absence of the "worthless ones". lol.
You dey mind that one? He's a 'heartful' non-doctor.

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Re: Why We Can’t Call Off The Strike Because Of Ebola Outbreak – Lagos Medical Docto by Cityguy: 1:58am On Jul 27, 2014
Kajiang02:

This Man's stupidity as well as others supporting the strike action is beyond comprehension.
A Nepa official who climbs the high tension poles everyday will have to ask for higher hazard allowance due to his job. Likewise a Policeman on high-way patrol, soldiers in Sambisa etc. We all face certain risks on our Jobs daily.
The Nation gave you a duty to protect us from dying, now you're intentionally killing us. Isn't this worse compared to Boko-Haram?

I'm looking forward to the day the Nigerian Police, the Military will go for a 1week or day strike. Bloody killers cum drs.
Well, since Boko Haram guys are better, I urge you to face the forest. For your information, they know where exactly to put the knife so you could be cured of your madness. BS
Re: Why We Can’t Call Off The Strike Because Of Ebola Outbreak – Lagos Medical Docto by Cityguy: 2:07am On Jul 27, 2014
aluunoble:

Hide ur head in shame thou sluggard! Medical Lab. Scientists, Nurses, Radiographers, Physios Pharms, etc are doing their work quite deligently even without ur asses. Who diagnosed the said Ebola virus in LUTH? Isn't not a Med Lab scientist? Stop unhealthy propaganda coz unfortunately Nig masses are now enlightened hence the less panic by the public while u guyz are lazying out there in the name of strike. The Scientist never demanded an upward review of Hazard allowance and yet put his life in dilemma to save not even a Nigerian but a Liberian. Enemy of progress sorry NMA of progress!
Of course, he saved the man. I saw him playing chess this afternoon near mama Ranti's shop. If only you know how busy guys are at various levels, you would not be saying 'lazying' about. Besides, you are working and tending the patients, why bother about him who has not come? He's not hindering your so-called 'progress' na. Like it or hate it, on NMA strike we stand and pls, don't develop hypertension over that.

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Re: Why We Can’t Call Off The Strike Because Of Ebola Outbreak – Lagos Medical Docto by aluunoble: 2:38am On Jul 27, 2014
benghaziii: smh...residency exams span from 50k to 150k.wif project work worth over thousands in 4-5 yrs...tell me if oda health workers go thru this kinda training..am nt against any oda division of health workers frm advancing in knowledge.. why are dey all hell bent on d consultant title...a form of inferiority complex
a pharmacist can go abroad to study more fr 18months even after he returns it doesn't make him a doctor rite?docs are fighting fr their
hazard allowance...dey aint against odas...johesu excluded docs...so dey should fight fr theirs..
6yrs spent in medical school is just d beginning.. and let me tell u..number of years is nt only d factor bt wat each faculty studied.. nurses..med rehab n docs will part after 200l
hence they can never know as much as doctors...trust me
the gap btw med doc n oda health workers is so wide ..my dear...
all skills oda paramedics claim today were taught by docs...
a lion does look up cos he is d head...he looks down


And u forgot to tell the public that we are placed on monthly salary of about #250,000 for a start from day 1 as the residency trainning, project bla bla bla and the examination fee or whatever last until we become consultant. Stop feeding pple with half truth!
Re: Why We Can’t Call Off The Strike Because Of Ebola Outbreak – Lagos Medical Docto by timowale: 5:21am On Jul 27, 2014
ismokeweed: Lab rats moaning. How does the strike affect you? Everyone in the hospital is important but doctors are more important than you. Ger over it. No one rushes to a hospital saying he needs a lab rat. Know your place. And If you can't, jamb form will soon be out.
stop smoking weed..your generation still needs you
Re: Why We Can’t Call Off The Strike Because Of Ebola Outbreak – Lagos Medical Docto by isoknit(m): 9:13am On Jul 27, 2014
I honestly hope that the issue will be solved in the end....as much I agree with the Drs on the headship of the Hospital.....(I feel they should ask themselves why the state of health care and Hospitals has not improved over the years even with them being the head).... Docs should know that strikes don't solve things in this our country....a more proactive approach needs to be employed....#Docsplsgobacktowork..wended you.
Re: Why We Can’t Call Off The Strike Because Of Ebola Outbreak – Lagos Medical Docto by Nobody: 10:29am On Jul 27, 2014
kamer:
lwkmd...so they busted your bubble and decided to play diaspora game..ok but we are discusing Nig med ass NMA, and members of NMA spent 6yrs in sch....olodo like u, come here dey talk after you might have repeated 3 times or more...abeg go set line make we discuss with drs wey spend 6yrs,only God knows how many yrs you will spend in residency..olodo oshi




Well I studied Medicine and Surgery for seven and a half legit years
No repeats....
Graduated with my set...
From one of the top Federal Unis, no less
...and yet, it is a six year course
Strikes, whatnots,

So deal with it
@deols has a point
Cheers
Re: Why We Can’t Call Off The Strike Because Of Ebola Outbreak – Lagos Medical Docto by klbakare(m): 2:44pm On Jul 27, 2014
emog17: there are few medical schools in Nigeria that does medicine for 6yrs(only few fed uni) most are 7, 8 or 9yrs and it is nt because the person repeated year or ASUU strikes bt due to accreditation and re-accreditation problems most schools wt MDCN. evn in u.s and many parts of d world before u become a medical doctor u'll spend nothing less than 8yrs( 4yrs pre-med and 4yrs med)before u become a medical doctor. And mind u, it is nt jst 6yrs bt 6yrs of rigorous training without holidays(except easter and Xmas)and mch time to socialize. Imagine u doing anatomy, physiology & biochemistry in 18months that students dat major in these courses do for 4yrs each and u're expected to knw it better than them. I'm nt evn talking abt the clinical courses;pathology, pharmacology, Paediatrics, obstetrics & gynecology, community medicine, surgery, psychiatry, radiology, ophthalmology, internal medicine, ward rounds, clinics, etc all these in jst 3yrs and u must be grounded in them. Now tell me those johesu dat studied 4 4 or 5yrs wat and wat do they do and how detailed do they go into it? It is nt the number of yrs u spent in sch dat matters bt wat u did within ur duration of study.
u docs can never knw it beta than them...dats y u ve to consult them later in the course of ur treatments.u docs study medicine because of pride nt for d luv of taking care of pepl xcept for few of u who has lost close ones to diseases.I HATE U GUYS FOR UR PRIDE AND IF A DOC bleeps WIT ME, I WILL DEAL WITH HIM OR THE FUCKING HER
Re: Why We Can’t Call Off The Strike Because Of Ebola Outbreak – Lagos Medical Docto by tuoyoojo(m): 5:02pm On Jul 27, 2014
aluunoble:

Hide ur head in shame thou sluggard! Medical Lab. Scientists, Nurses, Radiographers, Physios Pharms, etc are doing their work quite deligently even without ur asses. Who diagnosed the said Ebola virus in LUTH? Isn't not a Med Lab scientist? Stop unhealthy propaganda coz unfortunately Nig masses are now enlightened hence the less panic by the public while u guyz are lazying out there in the name of strike. The Scientist never demanded an upward review of Hazard allowance and yet put his life in dilemma to save not even a Nigerian but a Liberian. Enemy of progress sorry NMA of progress!

I want to assume that ur lab man jus saw the patient on d street , grabbed him and set his sample for virology. I guess u must hav read dat he was in a private hosp from where his sample was sent to d lab. Who requested for d test,its d same lazy doctor who was relaxing at home doing nothing rite?!...u slowpoke!
Re: Why We Can’t Call Off The Strike Because Of Ebola Outbreak – Lagos Medical Docto by Zeus777: 5:24pm On Jul 27, 2014
YourHealthlabs: The only solution bedeviling our health sector has only one solution.

Our physicians should stop believing that the promotion of other health professionals is a stain on their ward coats. Policallly they are the most powerful in the health sector.
-They take up 99% of sits on the Board of management of every public hospitals.
-They earn the fattest pay, starting from Medical interns who earn more than even experienced Pharmacists and Scientists.
-Has anyone ever seen the the promotion list of our public hospitals--80% are usually physicians, even though they consistute just about 10% of the entire health workforce.
--and so many other advantages they have over others.

They don't have to lose this merits to allow others grow. What JOHESU is saying is--give our professionals some breathing space,if you want to lead carry everyone along, don't go asking for hazard allowance and benefits for NMA, at the same time fighting against same for nurses, scientists and cleaners. They also want to learn and grow in their respective fields. How does this affect the importance of a physician?
Na I disagree with ur solution . The BEST solution would be to PRIVATIZE ALL GOVT HOSPITALS. Let's see if afterwards people would not sit tight and do their job. After all,the private owners would have to determine while downsizing workforce if they indeed need a consultant nurse in the hospital or in a legal department or if they would need a consultant pharmacist in the hospital or rather in the old people"s home

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Re: Why We Can’t Call Off The Strike Because Of Ebola Outbreak – Lagos Medical Docto by hglmkope(f): 7:23pm On Jul 27, 2014
Sincerely have doctors forgotten the oath they swore before entering the profession. I think it is high time we start a profession or go for job because of the love we have for the job and not just for meeting our needs. Life is all about rendering services to humanity. That is the joy and fulfillment of life.
While watching a documentary on the first Ebola outbreak, I was so surprised, encouraged and happy at the way the local doctors fought for the lives of their patients despite the disapproval of their methods by international practitioners sent to them by World Health Organization and also despite extremely inadequate facility (It started in a remote area in Sudan). They succeeded in saving some lives who will forever be grateful for their efforts.
I am definitely not in support of our government, but we can use other means to make our request known while we improvised with what we have at present. If not for anything, for the lives of those whose death would have been prevented if only we were available to render our little help. I am so sure that the cries of those who were dead based on our negligence and carefree attitude go out to God and we all are going to give account of all our actions one day.
When I was sick, you did not tend to me…
Re: Why We Can’t Call Off The Strike Because Of Ebola Outbreak – Lagos Medical Docto by Kcinho(m): 7:32am On Jul 29, 2014
prettyprettywow: you don't know who public health specialists are in this 21st century?
I'm still waiting for your 21st century lecture on public health specialist.

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Re: Why We Can’t Call Off The Strike Because Of Ebola Outbreak – Lagos Medical Docto by Samgreguc(m): 8:07am On Jul 29, 2014
emog17: there are few medical schools in Nigeria that does medicine for 6yrs(only few fed uni) most are 7, 8 or 9yrs and it is nt because the person repeated year or ASUU strikes bt due to accreditation and re-accreditation problems most schools wt MDCN. evn in u.s and many parts of d world before u become a medical doctor u'll spend nothing less than 8yrs( 4yrs pre-med and 4yrs med)before u become a medical doctor. And mind u, it is nt jst 6yrs bt 6yrs of rigorous training without holidays(except easter and Xmas)and mch time to socialize. Imagine u doing anatomy, physiology & biochemistry in 18months that students dat major in these courses do for 4yrs each and u're expected to knw it better than them. I'm nt evn talking abt the clinical courses;pathology, pharmacology, Paediatrics, obstetrics & gynecology, community medicine, surgery, psychiatry, radiology, ophthalmology, internal medicine, ward rounds, clinics, etc all these in jst 3yrs and u must be grounded in them. Now tell me those johesu dat studied 4 4 or 5yrs wat and wat do they do and how detailed do they go into it? It is nt the number of yrs u spent in sch dat matters bt wat u did within ur duration of study.
have u heard of PHARMACY?
.
I think u shud make ur research on it.

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