OLAADEGBU:

Can you tell me where the 4th commandment says that Christians are to worship on the Sabbath?

Saturday comes from the Latin for "Saturn's day" which is a pagan day of worship of the planet Saturn. Did God tell you that your salvation depends on your keeping of a certain day? If so can you show us where He said so?

If God wanted Christians to keep the Sabbath day then He would have ceased on the opportunity to tell the Apostles when they gathered specifically to discuss the relationship of Christians to the decalogue (Acts 15:5-11, 24-29). All He had to do to save millions from the damnation of hell was to say "Remember to keep the Sabbath holy" and then millions of us would have kept it till date. Instead, the only commands the apostles were given was to "abstain from meats offered to idols and from blood and from things strangled and from fornication."

If you don't agree with my submission, then kindly give us at least one command in the NT for Christians to keep the Sabbath holy?

can u show where eating things offered to idols and things strangled and blood are in the 10 commandments.also show me where it is expressly stated in d NT dat we should nt take God's name by vain.also remember that in Acts 15,they did not also tell them nt to steal or to obey their parent or nt to kill,does that justify these acts.try to do exegesis when u read and nt eisegesis

paulcr7:

show me a text in the NT where it says that you should nt call d name of God in vain

"But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth" (Colossians 3:8 ).

I hope you know what blasphemy means

paulcr7:

if d sabbath is 4 d jews,marriage is also for the jews because both marriage and d sabbath came before the fall and before there was ever a jew.dats why christ said,the sabbath was made for man,he didnt say for jews.God only gave it to the jews and he also gave it to the Christians-acts13:14,15:21,17:2,18:4.if it was for d jews,it should nt have been kept by d disciples even at 70AD(mathew24:20).Spurgeon is a man and he is fallible in his understanding

Are you aware of what the Lord Jesus Christ said regarding marriage and Sabbath at the beginning of creation? Sabbath does not mean the 7th day, it means the day of rest. There is no where in the NT where it says that Christians are to keep the Sabbath holy. Read Colossians 2:16 and Mark 2:27 if you are in doubt.

paulcr7:

why cant Christ give u d same grace to keep the sabbath not to be saved but out of love.why remove d sabbath from the others.why lose one of the ten coins(luke15),why offend in one(james 2:10),why destroy d perfection of d law(ps 19:7)

The Sabbath given to the Jews was a ceremonial law and Jesus has fulfilled all ceremonial laws and ordinances when He died on the Cross. The Sabbath was given as a sign to Israel (read Exodus 31:13-17). If you study your Bible you will discover that the Sabbath has not been given as a sign to the Church. For millenniums after this commandment was given to Israel we can still see the sign that separates Israel from other nations, they continue to keep the Sabbath holy till this day.

The apostles came together on the first day of the week to break bread (Acts 20:7). What we call offerings today was taken on the first day of the week (1 Corinthians 16:2). When do Sabbath keepers gather together to break bread and take collections? It's certainly not on the same day as the early Christians did.

OLAADEGBU:

Are you aware of what the Lord Jesus Christ said regarding marriage and Sabbath at the beginning of creation? Sabbath does not mean the 7th day, it means the day of rest. There is no where in the NT where it says that Christians are to keep the Sabbath holy. Read Colossians 2:16 and Mark 2:27 if you are in doubt.

Christ kept d sabbath(luke 4:16),d apostles did,greeks converted to Christianity did(acts 13,15,17),christ expected that it will still be kept at Ad70(mathew 24:20),and in d new earth(isaiah66:23).d fact dat marriage was made for man does nt mean we should cancel it,d same applies to d sabbath.as long as u find directive to keep d commandments,it includes d sabbath

paulcr7:

A this is just a secondary application of the sabbath and secondary application does nt refute primary application.I can also use this method to say that 'thou shall nt commit adultery' means we should nt go away from Christ which is a secondary way God applies it in his relationship with Israel but does that mean dat christians can sleep around?no. We can apply the sabbath rest to our justification by faith but it does nt cancel its original meaning.However,we dont do it to be saved but out of love for Christ(john14:15) and by d grace of his saving power.(in my ref to sabbath,i mean the seventhday sabbath of Gen 2)

Lets read Romans 14:5-10 to see it's application to the Christian Church:

"One man esteems one day above another: another esteems every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. He that regards the day, regards it to the Lord; and he that regards not the day, to the Lord he does not regard it. He that eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he that eats not, to the Lord he eats not, and gives God thanks. For none of us lives to himself, and no man dies to himself...But why do you judge your brother? or why do you set at nought your brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ"

paulcr7:

who gave u d permission to add or subtract from the law.d law of God is perfect,it needs no addition nor subtraction.any blemish in d law is a blemish on God's character.The sabbath is God's day(math 12:,we have no right to remove it

It is a sign to the nation of Israel. I am not altering from the word of God. Let's hear the Lord of Sabbath speaking again:

"And He said to them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath" (Mark 2:27-28 ).

The Lord Jesus Christ, who created the Sabbath in the beginning explains here why He did not create all things in one day which He could have done if He wanted to instead of 6 days. He made us aware that we would need a day of rest and worship one day out of seven, and so He set the example from the beginning.

OLAADEGBU:

The Sabbath given to the Jews was a ceremonial law and Jesus has fulfilled all ceremonial laws and ordinances when He died on the Cross. The Sabbath was given as a sign to Israel (read Exodus 31:13-17). If you study your Bible you will discover that the Sabbath has not been given as a sign to the Church. For millenniums after this commandment was given to Israel we can still see the sign that separates Israel from other nations, they continue to keep the Sabbath holy till this day.

The apostles came together on the first day of the week to break bread (Acts 20:7). What we call offerings today was taken on the first day of the week (1 Corinthians 16:2). When do Sabbath keepers gather together to break bread and take collections? It's certainly not on the same day as the early Christians did.

if d sabbath is ceremonial and nailed to d cross,then all d 10commandments also follow and therefore u can decide to rob ur church and kill ur pastor tomorrow.2.if d sabbath ended at d cross,the disciples who started Christianity after d cross will nt keep it but they did-acts 13,15,17,math 24:20.3..Why do u apply d promises of the bible to urself when they were written years back to Israel.It is because in Christ we are spiritual israel-Gal 3.4.Christ did nt give any directive to change d sabbath day,christ does nt change(mal3:6) neither does his law(ps19:7).5.d offering collected in 2cor 16 was nt in d church but at individual house and it was a special offering taken by Paul for missionaries.6.breaking of break in d context of Acts 2 was done every day from house to house,dat is nt a sabbath service.7.all d times d disciples gathered on d first day b4 Christ ascension was for fear of d jews nt for worship.8.Israel had two kind of sabbath-d weekly seventh day sabbath which started in Gen 2 b4 d fall and before d jewish ceremonies-d sabbaths of festivals which can fall on any day(lev 23) which were contained in d ordinances,d book of Moses(see Nehemiah 10).d sabbaths of festivals ended when Christ died because he was the fulfilment of all the feasts and types.because d feasts ended,d sabbaths relating to them ended(col2,eph2).d weekly sabbath did nt end with Christ death because it came b4 d fall and Christ death was meant to only reverse the things that came as a result of the fall.Also, d weekly sabbath is part of d 10commandments which are still in existence-psalms 107:7,8,mathew 5:16-18...9u cannot be saved by keeping d sabbath,it is only an expression of love for d redeemer

paulcr7:

can u show where eating things offered to idols and things strangled and blood are in the 10 commandments.also show me where it is expressly stated in d NT dat we should nt take God's name by vain[/b].also remember that in Acts 15,they did not also tell them nt to steal or to obey their parent or nt to kill,does that justify these acts.try to do exegesis when u read and nt eisegesis

Are you sincerely saying that you cannot find where these have been forbidden in the NT or the OT? Let me give you another verse of who blasphemes the Lord.

"And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme His name and His tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven" (Revelation 13:6).

Guess who this is talking about. Is this written in the OT or the new?

paulcr7: A this is just a secondary application of the sabbath and secondary application does nt refute primary application.I can also use this method to say that 'thou shall nt commit adultery' means we should nt go away from Christ which is a secondary way God applies it in his relationship with Israel but does that mean dat christians can sleep around?no. We can apply the sabbath rest to our justification by faith but it does nt cancel its original meaning.However,we dont do it to be saved but out of love for Christ(john14:15) and by d grace of his saving power.(in my ref to sabbath,i mean the seventhday sabbath of Gen 2)

Bro your analogy is a lie. Jesus condemned adultery in the new testament and even raised the bar by saying that if you look at a woman lustfully you have coommitted it. In some other places in the new testament adultery was mentioned as sin(e.g. Galatiands 5:19) but in the case of sabbath, the new testament said it clearly that we shouldn't allow anyone judge us concerning the sabbath day or any holy day. We can't bow to your understanding and doctrine. We ll take the bible stand. You are just blindly promoting what you were taught in church.

OLAADEGBU:

It is a sign to the nation of Israel. I am not altering from the word of God. Let's hear the Lord of Sabbath speaking again:

"And He said to them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath" (Mark 2:27-28 ).

The Lord Jesus Christ, who created the Sabbath in the beginning explains here why He did not create all things in one day which He could have done if He wanted to instead of 6 days. He made us aware that we would need a day of rest and worship one day out of seven, and so He set the example from the beginning.

The sabbath is for man's enjoyment but man is nt d lord of the sabbath.when govt digs a borehole,it is for d people but it is govt dat maintains authority.man is meant to enjoy d sabbath,it is only Christ dat can change it and he did nt.d sabbath has never been a day out of seven,it is THE SEVENTH DAY(gen 2,exo 20,exo 31,ezekiel32,isaiah 53) the specificity of d day is PART of the commandment.just like u dont just choose anyday as ur birthday,u cant choose anyday for sabbath,especially when u are nt d lord of the sabbath

paulcr7:

Christ kept d sabbath(luke 4:16),d apostles did,greeks converted to Christianity did(acts 13,15,17),christ expected that it will still be kept at Ad70(mathew 24:20),and in d new earth(isaiah66:23).d fact dat marriage was made for man does nt mean we should cancel it,d same applies to d sabbath.as long as u find directive to keep d commandments,it includes d sabbath

Of cause, our Lord Jesus Christ did keep the Sabbath. He had to keep the whole law to be a perfect sacrifice. The holy Scriptures makes it perfectly clear that the Law has been satisfied in Christ. The reason why apostles like Paul went to the synagogue was not to keep the Law. It was for him to be able to preach the gospel to the Jews (Romans 10:1). To the Jews he became a Jew, that he might win the Jews (1 Cor. 9:19-20). This means that he went to where and when they gathered. Simples

alexleo:

Bro your analogy is a lie. Jesus condemned adultery in the new testament and even raised the bar by saying that if you look at a woman lustfully you have coommitted it. In some other places in the new testament adultery was mentioned as sin(e.g. Galatiands 5:19) but in the case of sabbath, the new testament said it clearly that we shouldn't allow anyone judge us concerning the sabbath day or any holy day. We can't bow to your understanding and doctrine. We ll take the bible stand. You are just blindly promoting what you were taught in church.

if u have any thing to say, present ur case.i dont like people who talk out of emotion and not out of biblical consistency and reasoning.

OLAADEGBU:

Of cause, our Lord Jesus Christ did keep the Sabbath. He had to keep the whole law to be a perfect sacrifice. The holy Scriptures makes it perfectly clear that the Law has been satisfied in Christ. The reason why apostles like Paul went to the synagogue was not to keep the Law. It was for him to be able to preach the gospel to the Jews (Romans 10:1). To the Jews he became a Jew, that he might win the Jews (1 Cor. 9:19-20). This means that he went to where and when they gathered. Simples

when paul kept it together with gentiles who never kept it their whole life,what was he doing? Or was he becoming like a gentile to win a gentile who were already won

paulcr7:

if d sabbath is ceremonial and nailed to d cross,then all d 10commandments also follow and therefore u can decide to rob ur church and kill ur pastor tomorrow.2.if d sabbath ended at d cross,the disciples who started Christianity after d cross will nt keep it but they did-acts 13,15,17,math 24:20.3..Why do u apply d promises of the bible to urself when they were written years back to Israel.It is because in Christ we are spiritual israel-Gal 3.4.Christ did nt give any directive to change d sabbath day,christ does nt change(mal3:6) neither does his law(ps19:7).5.d offering collected in 2cor 16 was nt in d church but at individual house and it was a special offering taken by Paul for missionaries.6.breaking of break in d context of Acts 2 was done every day from house to house,dat is nt a sabbath service.7.all d times d disciples gathered on d first day b4 Christ ascension was for fear of d jews nt for worship.8.Israel had two kind of sabbath-d weekly seventh day sabbath which started in Gen 2 b4 d fall and before d jewish ceremonies-d sabbaths of festivals which can fall on any day(lev 23) which were contained in d ordinances,d book of Moses(see Nehemiah 10).d sabbaths of festivals ended when Christ died because he was the fulfilment of all the feasts and types.because d feasts ended,d sabbaths relating to them ended(col2,eph2).d weekly sabbath did nt end with Christ death because it came b4 d fall and Christ death was meant to only reverse the things that came as a result of the fall.Also, d weekly sabbath is part of d 10commandments which are still in existence-psalms 107:7,8,mathew 5:16-18...9u cannot be saved by keeping d sabbath,it is only an expression of love for d redeemer

Let me leave you with the words of D.L. Moody who said: "The Law can only chase a man to Calvary, no further"

Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the Law therefore we are no longer in bondage to it. And if we try to keep one part of the Law by the love for the redeemer as you put it, we are then obligated to keep the whole Law, including the 613 precepts (Read Galatians 3:10).

OLAADEGBU:

Lets read Romans 14:5-10 to see it's application to the Christian Church:

"One man esteems one day above another: another esteems every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. He that regards the day, regards it to the Lord; and he that regards not the day, to the Lord he does not regard it. He that eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he that eats not, to the Lord he eats not, and gives God thanks. For none of us lives to himself, and no man dies to himself...But why do you judge your brother? or why do you set at nought your brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ"

i like people who read d bible in its context.Here Paul was adressing issues that are causing conflict btw d jews and d gentiles.For Paul to be refering to d weekly sabbath here,it means that it must be an issue of conflict but it is not-acts 15,acts 18 both jews and gentiles kept d weekly sabbath.Paul was referring to d other sabbaths dat seperated jews and greeks.After Paul said dat no one should judge it does nt mean dat there will nt be a judgment, but d judgment is for God to do.it doesnt mean dat we should nt correct ourselves but because we are nt God we should nt condemn others

OLAADEGBU:

Are you sincerely saying that you cannot find where these have been forbidden in the NT or the OT? Let me give you another verse of who blasphemes the Lord.

"And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme His name and His tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven" (Revelation 13:6).

Guess who this is talking about. Is this written in the OT or the new?

am talking abt d ten commandments

paulcr7:

The sabbath is for man's enjoyment but man is nt d lord of the sabbath.when govt digs a borehole,it is for d people but it is govt dat maintains authority.man is meant to enjoy d sabbath,it is only Christ dat can change it and he did nt.d sabbath has never been a day out of seven,it is THE SEVENTH DAY(gen 2,exo 20,exo 31,ezekiel32,isaiah 53) the specificity of d day is PART of the commandment.just like u dont just choose anyday as ur birthday,u cant choose anyday for sabbath,especially when u are nt d lord of the sabbath

The Son of man established the Sabbath day when He "rested from all His work which God created and made" (Genesis 2:3). So as the Creator of everything (John 1:1-3), The Lord Jesus Christ surely had all authority over the Sabbath day, especially to do well on the sabbath (Matthew 12:12).

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OLAADEGBU:

Let me leave you with the words of D.L. Moody who said: "The Law can only chase a man to Calvary, no further"

Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the Law therefore we are no longer in bondage to it. And if we try to keep one part of the Law by the love for the redeemer as you put it, we are then obligated to keep the whole Law, including the 613 precepts (Read Galatians 3:10).

when d law leads a man to christ,it does nt make him the same infidel he always is for then salvation has no meaning.if Christianity is a religion that will turn people from ignorant sinners to knowledgeable lawless infidel,then we have no message.'The world has seen how d blood of Christ saves us from d guilt of sin,they want to know how it saves us from d power of sin'.The 613 moral codes are rabbinic exagerations,d 10 commandments and d teachings of Christ on them arewhat i mean by d law.remember,christian faith is active nt passive.only those who do his will nt to be saved but because they are already saved by his grace with d power of a new pure life wij reign with him.THIS IS MY LAST POST,I WISH U WELL

paulcr7: I when d law leads a man to christ,it does nt make him the same infidel he always is for then salvation has no meaning.if Christianity is a religion that will turn people from ignorant sinners to knowledgeable lawless infidel,then we have no message.'The world has seen how d blood of Christ saves us from d guilt of sin,they want to know how it saves us from d power of sin'.The 613 moral codes are rabbinic exagerations,d 10 commandments and d teachings of Christ on them arewhat i mean by d law.remember,christian faith is active nt passive.only those who do his will nt to be saved but because they are already saved by his grace with d power of a new pure life wij reign with him.THIS IS MY LAST POST,I WISH U WELL

It can't be your last post sir. You can't say things and when we need you to answer some questions on what you said, you then want to leave. It doesn't work that way. While I agree with most things you said above as quoted, I will like to ask, how are the 613 "rabbinical exaggerations"? Do you mean, it wasn't God who gave those 613?

paulcr7:

when paul kept it together with gentiles who never kept it their whole life,what was he doing? Or was he becoming like a gentile to win a gentile who were already won

"For though I be free from all men, yet have I made myself servant to all, that I might gain the more. And to the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law. To them that are without the law, as without the law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law. To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some. And this I do for the gospel's sake, that I might be partaker thereof" (1 Cor.9:19-23).

What Paul is saying here is that he had constrained himself so as to gain people for Christ. This was for the gospel sake which we can also learn from.

OLAADEGBU:

Let me leave you with the words of D.L. Moody who said: "The Law can only chase a man to Calvary, no further"

Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the Law therefore we are no longer in bondage to it. And if we try to keep one part of the Law by the love for the redeemer as you put it, we are then obligated to keep the whole Law, including the 613 precepts (Read Galatians 3:10).

You sef, I tire for you sometimes, one time you will be for the law,another time partial and another time, against keeping the law. Where you stand sef? Lemme put it in another way, the Law is like a mirror, it shows you the spot on your face but it doesn't remove the spot.

paulcr7:

i like people who read d bible in its context.Here Paul was adressing issues that are causing conflict btw d jews and d gentiles.For Paul to be refering to d weekly sabbath here,it means that it must be an issue of conflict but it is not-acts 15,acts 18 both jews and gentiles kept d weekly sabbath.Paul was referring to d other sabbaths dat seperated jews and greeks.After Paul said dat no one should judge it does nt mean dat there will nt be a judgment, but d judgment is for God to do.it doesnt mean dat we should nt correct ourselves but because we are nt God we should nt condemn others

If you can use this zeal of yours about insisting other Christians keep the Sabbath for winning the lost there would be revival in the land, don't you think?

paulcr7:

am talking abt d ten commandments

Where do you think blasphemy laws emanated from?

paulcr7:

I when d law leads a man to christ,it does nt make him the same infidel he always is for then salvation has no meaning.if Christianity is a religion that will turn people from ignorant sinners to knowledgeable lawless infidel,then we have no message.'The world has seen how d blood of Christ saves us from d guilt of sin,they want to know how it saves us from d power of sin'.The 613 moral codes are rabbinic exagerations,d 10 commandments and d teachings of Christ on them arewhat i mean by d law.remember,christian faith is active nt passive.only those who do his will nt to be saved but because they are already saved by his grace with d power of a new pure life wij reign with him.THIS IS MY LAST POST,I WISH U WELL

When the Law leads you to the Cross Christ takes over from there. We are saved by grace alone, not of works and we remain saved by grace. We do not become lawless we are subject to the law of Christ which is the Moral Law. Jesus gave the proper interpretation of Sabbath, don't put yourself under any unnecessary bondage. Christ has set us free.

Goshen360:

You sef, I tire for you sometimes, one time you will be for the law,another time partial and another time, against keeping the law. Where you stand sef? Lemme put it in another way, the Law is like a mirror, it shows you the spot on your face but it doesn't remove the spot.

I stand on Christ the solid rock, all other grounds are sinking sands.

OLAADEGBU:

I stand on Christ the solid rock, all other grounds are sinking sands.

Abeg comot for road joor. Quit dancing around. Address what I said. You know God is against being cold nor hot. There's no middle ground in Christ.

Mr Goshen,i will make this last reply because u are new to the thread.the 613 laws were the exposition of the pharisees and rabbis gave to d moral.Jesus did nt agree with some of their exagerations.example is d case of d sabbath where u are nt allowed to help someone who falls into a ditch and some of d laws they made in regards to d temple in mathew 15 and 23.we are nt subject to the rabbis laws but only to Christ law of the ten commandmemt just like we are nt subject to some laws and practices implemented by the Catholic church.

The First Day of the Week

"And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight" (Acts 20:7).

Given the fact that everything about God's Word was specifically inspired by its Author, it is appropriate that this important phrase, "the first day of the week," occurs exactly eight times in the Bible.  The first six of these (Matthew 28:1; Mark 16:2,9; Luke 24:1; John 20:1,19) all stress the fact that it was on this day that the greatest event in history (since the creation) had taken place.  The creation of the universe had taken place on the first day of the week, and now its Creator had conquered sin and death itself on that day.  In the Bible, of course, the number "seven" represents completeness, so "eight" represents a new beginning--a new creation, a resurrection.

The last two references tell us just how the early Christians remembered this day.  Our text verse tells us this was a day on which the disciples assembled together, had a preaching service, and then "broke bread." This was not a special assembly called just for Paul, for he had already been waiting there six days (see previous verse).  This was about 25 years after the resurrection itself and the Jewish believers were evidently still observing the seventh day as a rest day, but then they also observed the first day of the week as the time to commemorate the Lord's death in "breaking of bread" to celebrate His resurrection, and especially to hear the preaching of His Word.  The final reference tells us one other vital thing they did: "Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him" (1 Corinthians 16:2).  The first day of the week should always be a time of remembering Him in these joyful ways, for He is our living Lord and Saviour. HMM

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lol. I have read and I have laughed.
You so-called christians are crazy.

Oladiegbu or whatever your name is, I will respond your post tomorrow.
But it is best I help you get precept now, so that when I crush your weak arguments with scripture, you will at least se sit coming.

Ok, here it is:

Colossians 2. You quoted verse 16. 16 "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days"

THAT IS YOUR VERSE.

I want to give you a precept. And then I will leave you to THINK like the son of Jacob that you are. I pray wisdom will strike you before I post a thread on this, so at least I will have pulled someone out of this strong delusion they call oyinbo christianity.

Ezekiel 45:17 "And it shall be the prince's part to give burnt offerings, and meat offerings, and drink offerings, in the feasts, and in the new moons, and in the sabbaths, in all solemnities of the house of Israel: he shall prepare the sin offering, and the meat offering, and the burnt offering, and the peace offerings, to make reconciliation for the house of Israel."

1. Notice how I always go to scripture, while you quote letters without understanding
2. Read Ezekiel over and over again, I believe I have given you a hint as to context of Colossians 2
3. Other verses in Colossians 2 should have signalled to you that your conclusions is embarrassing. For example:

Colossiana 2:8 "Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ."

Colossians 2:22 "... after the commandments and doctrines of men?

A wise man will read that and come away believing YOU THINK that Paul is calling the Law of the Most High a tradition of man, that they are vain philosophies. At this point, even if Paul were suggesting this, you ought to know that would make him a false teacher, and you, a fool for believing such.

4. Ask yourself, what were the scribes and pharisees of the day doing? How were they judging people? Did they teach the law, or their own pharisaic laws? Why did Yahshua call them blind guides? Given my precept of Ezekiel, and the questions I have posed to you, I expect, by now, you are starting to get the real picture.

5. Read Leviticus, as a matter of urgency. UNDERSTAND that certain ordinances were observed on new moons (beginning of month) and sabbaths. UNDERSTAND that Christ was the sacrificial lamb. The pharisees, not believing in him, naturally, would judge those who believed in Christ and realised that he fulfilled that (that is what is means when it says he fulfilled the law).

Shalom

Goshen360:

Abeg comot for road joor. Quit dancing around. Address what I said. You know God is against being cold nor hot. There's no middle ground in Christ.

I'll leave you, the liberal on one hand and others that are legalistic on the other, with the following verses to ruminate on:

"So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham. For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continues not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. And the law is not of faith: but, The man that does them shall live in them. Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangs on a tree: That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith" (Galatians 3:9-14)

With this we can understand Abraham is not just the ancestral father of the nation of Israel but also, the father of all who come to God through faith in Jesus Christ (John 8:56-58). It was also not possible for any Israelite or any legalist to keep all commandments of the law (James 2:10) and therefore were all under the "curse" of the law. Abraham understood the original promise God made, not only to him but also to "all nations" which includes us the Gentiles. Abraham thus believed this very early form of the gospel and was justified by faith before he paid/gave tithes of all and was given the sign of circumcision as a token of the covenant and that means we Gentiles will be justified by faith.

^ Take your copy and paste to people who will buy such lies.