TV01:
Presumaly at some point you'll get to your ideological point of women having sex when they like and with whom the please. Don't worry, I'm not about to slut-shame you . As ever I absolutely accept that you have every right to your beliefs.

The discussion here was about intimate in/compatibility within marriage. It morphed to discuss the things to look for and motivations before marriage and touched heavily on why libido may vary within marriage. My aggregate posts on this thread imply no such thing, the fact you chose to read that into it is a consequence of your muddled ideology and attempt to prove your bona fides .

I have said nothing to suggest I don't think women (1) do not enjoy sex or (2) do not/cannot have sex purely for pleasure. What we have been touching on is the motivation and libido for women about to marry or that are married.

When a couple are merely slutting together, I'd imagine it's all about pleasure. When a womans mind turns to marriage and children (our context here), other motivations creep in and colour the reasons for sex. Your wor-wor ideology may well tell you that women have sex for the exact same reasons as men and should approach it just like men do - please, feel free to knock yourself out!

Just as you previously demonstrated your inability to grasp the concept of matriarchy and made a specatacle of yourself , you have charged in once more to demonstrate your porous thinking; so because we mention that a women may have certain motivations for intimacy it implies we mean she doesn't or can't enjoy it?


Nope, I clearly stated that libido varies during a marriage for both couples and for different reasons. Noting that there are obvious and well documented reasons for women to experience this - and typically more reasons than men. I no where claimed it's not fun or pleasurable for women just cliamed that there are other motivators before and arious other considerations after.

I was very clear that intimacy can still reach dizzying heights but the dynamics of marriage and life itself meant that it proabably wouldn''t be as frequent and take more work. I also asked for married women - especially those with chiuldren - to come and testify.

And a note for men here re the bolded: if a woman marries you out of desperation, merely for what you have, or as a last resort, you will typically not be the picture of the man she feels she deserves. This can seriously affect her real degree of attraction towards you (even if she's like a rabbit pre-marriage), and hence her desire to be intimate when the knot is tied. At the extremes, it can be a trigger for her infidelity. Please choose wisely. 'Nuff said.


Keep bringing it Carefreewannabe - I'm always willing to deliver a good rinsing !


TV

...for most women, sex is first and foremost a means to an end.

freshdude2: True true true, especially the bolded. Women keep telling themselves money isn't really a factor when choosing a mate but the facts tell a different story. It is in fact, the most important element in the check list.

Ishilove:
Why?

carefreewannabe:

A lengthy speech that still has not answered my question.

TV01:

For "most women" the provisioning ability is paramount. That mostly translates into cash money. It's why many have no compunction about going with yahoo-yahoo boys.

Where money is not a consideration (or they are just fantasizing - as many do ) other "manly" traits become paramount. That is why women will go ga-ga over a good looking criminal;
http://blackamericaweb.com/2014/06/20/model-prisoners-good-looking-mug-shots-go-viral-in-california-photos/

Woman don't dream of degree-educated, well-mannered corporate accountants with well paying jobs. Unfortunately they have to marry them

Once you know a womans triggers - even femisistas - , they are as easy as abc to figure out.


TV

TV01:

Not only was your question answered, it was actually quite pointless. Dry yourself off and read the thread from the beginning .


TV

...for most women, sex is first and foremost a means to an end.

coogar:

if you need to manually stimulate your clitorïs to get desired feeling, why do you need a man at all? how come men don't rub their cöcks after penetration to reach the promised land?

carefree, your brain is situated in the soles of your feet. you can only function properly when you are lying down. when you sit or stand, you have the brain capacity of a slug!

5minsmadness:
A compound word for you, 'skin burn'
You know that moment when you both are all over each other in the man's living room and you make love right there and then on the man's rug only to wake up with this searing pain on you back? Its called carpet burn.

'Skin burn' is what you get when you are with a hairy female.
And I can tell you its quite painful

And then again there's the increased testosterone levels which might mean reduced oestrogen levels which might affect fertility..but that's a different kettle of fish entirely.

Loved your 'killing mosquitoes' yarn by the way, you naughty thing you but don't you think the mosquitoes issue buttresses coogar's view?

carefreewannabe:
It is really too complex for you, right? I thought so.

Says someone who thinks that he can hurt a baby when sleeping with a pregnant woman.

Ishilove:
Lol. Thanks. Well, I'm a hairy female and I'm loving it. I gat hair everywhere . Waxing and depilatories take care of the facial ones; the rest I leave for nature to caress. I have never heard of skin burn though. This is the first time I'm hearing it.

No, I do not agree with coogar's views. I killed mosquitoes that night because it isn't part of my makeup to do casual sex. I should sleep with a man because of peppersoup and drink?? Haba mana

coogar:

you are a cretinous vermin!
complex? what's so complex in the fact that you may never experience orgäsm till you die.




hahahahahaha!
so you actually agree your braincells are in your soles?



he's probably teasing you. hairy women are the salt of the earth. they have above average testosterone in them which makes them almost insatiable.

when i was in uni, a woman with no hue of facial hair is at the lower rung of my natural selection. the more the hair, the better in bed she would be. ishilove, no wonder your partner has refused to leave you.




which of my views you don't agree with? are you aware some women have never, i repeat, never even experienced orgäsms before?

carefreewannabe:
Says someone who claims that life in the Oman is better than in the West

coogar:

much much better....
tax free countries are always better. look at what's happening in missouri?

TV01:



Where money is not a consideration (or they are just fantasizing - as many do ) other "manly" traits become paramount. That is why women will go ga-ga over a good looking criminal;
http://blackamericaweb.com/2014/06/20/model-prisoners-good-looking-mug-shots-go-viral-in-california-photos/

cococandy: Generally guys like to believe they enjoy sex more than women.
Hence they try to woo us and buy us over for the honey pot.
I even learned that many men are put off by a woman who doesn't hide her voracious part.
Or at least pretend to some extent.

It's fine . It's fine
If you know what I mean.
Totally cool with me. Believe what you will.
It only helps me get several benefits from something I equally enjoyed and still get off to acting like I did you a favor

donpeey22: Not all men are put off by women who don't hide their se,xual cravings. Personally, i get turned on easily by ladies who don't pretend about their high libido.8-)

Ishilove:
If I hear!! No toy can take the place of good ol' tough n' meaty 'manliness'. Absolutely none. Lol

coogar:


he's probably teasing you. hairy women are the salt of the earth. they have above average testosterone in them which makes them almost insatiable.

when i was in uni, a woman with no hue of facial hair is at the lower rung of my natural selection. the more the hair, the better in bed she would be. ishilove, no wonder your partner has refused to leave you.




which of my views you don't agree with? are you aware some women have never, i repeat, never even experienced orgäsms before?

cococandy: How cool is that

Ishilove:

Well, when I was still in the world, I found sex a most pleasurable sport which one NEVER gets tired of, especially if you are unencumbered with such 'inconveniences' as an active conscience and responsibilities. I guess the myth about hairy women isn't such a myth afterall...

I disagree with your figures on women who don't enjoy sex. Back in the uni, I had this friend who considered sex a chore. She never had an or:ga:sm with all her boyfriends, until she met this dude who took her to cloud 9. Thereafter she became a freak. Could never have enough of sex.

So I agree with carefree that the partners these women have plays a role in determining whether she gets to experience an or:ga:sm or not. It is therefore wrong for you and TV01 to conclude that most women don't like or enjoy sex.

coogar:

damiso, this is a different case altogether.

if you have seen many of my posts, you would know i intend to be a very considerate husband. i don't even believe a woman should he troubled when her pregnancy is in the 2nd or trimester and that should extend till her healing process is complete. i am fully aware of the stress a woman would go through shortly the birth of a baby.

however, that's not the case i am talking about here. i am talking about women who can be described as asexual. they just font want sëx - the only thing making them go through it is cos of children, not because they find sex pleasurable. some women are yet to have children & sëx is a task for them - like they are doing their partners a big favour.

the other category are the women who just stopped trying after marriage or after having all their children. they stop taking care of themselves. sëx is no longer in their agenda, they use the attention they devote on the kids as an excuse to do nothing in the bedroom. why should any hubby put up with such? in the days of our forefathers, polygamy took care of such issues......now that polygamy has almost the same weight as murder, what should men do? sleep with themselves?




ishilove, read some medical articles about it now. do your research. all those fairytales the ladies in your church tell you about their orgäsms with their hubbies are bunch of lies. even eve faked her orgäsm in eden.




how do you know this?

coogar:

it's never a myth.
i have been told that since i was 14 and i am yet to meet a hairy female that isn't a freak.



how do you know she got there via intercöurse? it could have been oräl, anäl or digital. i think this is the mistake you guys are making. the issue here is vagïnal intercourse. how many women reach the promised land via that mode of sëx? trust me, they are in the minority.



i don't disagree the skill of the partner is very important & that was why i was against carefree assertion that size matters.....hell no, size has no role to play in sex, it's the skill of the male partner that is the most important.

like i have said, some women would never reach orgäsm in their lifetime regardless of which method...anäl, oräl or intercöurse, it doesn't make a difference. even if they masturbatë, they won't reach their climax.

Ishilove:

No, I do not agree with coogar's views. I killed mosquitoes that night because it isn't part of my makeup to do casual sex. [b]I should sleep with a man because of peppersoup and drink?? [/b]Haba mana

Ishilove:
Oniranu. What are you doing with that kinda information at the age of 14? E don tey wey you don 'spwel'

Wo, coogar, me I no get energy for argument. I agree that some women and men, (like Macko Wacko) are asexual, so let's leave at that. I also see that you used 'some', not 'most' women, which is quite alright. It is the use of 'most' that has carefree all riled up.

damiso:
But Coogar like has been said on this thread there are so many things that can be done to 'help' those sort of women,Also s.ex within marriage while highly important sometimes is just not that exciting cos life and reponsbility happens. Even men have said to develop a dip in s.ex drive when life issues arise.

Seriously seriously the frequency(not necessarily the quality or passion) tends to dip after with kids. Thats why things like getaways and spicing it up are important to keep the spark alive cos lil kids just tend to put a spanner in your otherwise exciting s.ex life. You have to be creative and like most people have said have to probably outsource some tasks to allow the woman not be constantly fagged out

cococandy: Yep.
Just as men go gaga over beautiful ladies of very questionable character.
That's isn't a special trait found in women alone.in fact men are more prone to date or marry for looks than women are.
Just saying.

baralatie: three thread of talking only about whaaaat!
intimacy industry and gender superiority in the bedroom
wait till you all are married with kids!

errant nonsense!

Ishilove: It is therefore wrong for you and TV01 to conclude that most women don't like or enjoy sex.

coogar:

don't blame me - i started everything quite early.



the research says it's "most women". every research i have seen on the subject says there are around 70% upwards. that's most na!



a dip in the sex drive?
that would be the day i would beg my maker to take me away from the planet.



at this rate, i might have to wait 10 years before bringing in the kids.

coogar:

a dip in the sex drive?
that would be the day i would beg my maker to take me away from the planet.

never say never.u may come to a point in your life where sex is the last thing on your mind and you need to be alive for your loved ones. What then? Ok I get it's a joke though.


at this rate, i might have to wait 10 years before bringing in the kids. very good idea.

damiso:
It's not that bad you just have to be creative or very rich to be able to afford the kids living in an entirely different wing of the house with a nanny mcphee in charge

We commoners we just have to get used to penken penken ***stop is he awake is he awake oh no" dread" bated breath thinking why does this boy have to wake up right at this minute bated breaths again praying silently go back to sleep go back to sleep somedays they are nice and just go back to sleep

..if not you hear waaan waan and na daddy himself go fly to the edge of the cot or grab the baby monitor. tell me what is a worse mood killer..

But its for a lil while and just part of the curves in a marital relationship that TV was alluding to.