shymexx:

Yes, Lewisham has the best chics in South London by far! I went to Orpington College, then transferred to Lewisham College after my first year due to distance and the racist mofos in Kent. I also worked inside the Lewisham shopping centre for a few months in College - and the chics are out of this world. It's probably because it connects so many places - and Catford is just down the road. And you've got Sydenham as well. Nice chics - I miss those days, trust me. Linkageeeeeeeeesssssss! Plumstead and Thamesmead chics are also nice esp. Plumstead.

But Peckham is still the capital of Nigerians in London - no matter where you live, you just have to come there. Dalston is the other place. And Peckham isn't even that ghetto - East London and North London(maybe Deptford, Lambeth, and part of Lewisham borough) have all the biggest council flats and high rise buildings in London. Only Walworth in Southwark has something similar with Aylesbury - and that isn't Peckham proper.

Lmao @ your uncle supporting Millwall...it's fun for football, but those fvckers out there are racist as fvck. And where your uncle lives is like proper deep into their den. The new buildings there close to Old Kent road are nice. But once you start going proper deep where they've got estates, that's the white yobs' territory. The whole place is calm now and not as racist as it used to be - but we used to fight with them back in the day.

I never knew Erith was racist till we got chased in the car...it was proper early morning. They stopped following us along the road through Thamesmead that leads to Woolwich and where Greenwich College is. I know there was a naij/African gang(T-block boys) in Thamesmead/Abbeywood axis during college that used to get into it with those racist bastards from Kent. Erith, Bexleyheath, Sidcup, Slade Green, Orpington etc.. College days there.

Yes, you just have to be yourself. Once they look at you, and from the way you're and mannerism(even when you dress smart) - they will know if you're a thorough-bred or not. I've lived everywhere in the last 7 years since I left Peckham. I used to go to some of the worst places in Birmingham, North London, and East London at any time of the day, even at night - and no one has moved to me. Some say: "wag1" or "U kl?" - and the highest is that they talk to me for a bit, and once I tell them I from South London, some do famzing for a bit, and the rest just say, "safe" and keep it moving.

kobonaire: That's good..... but, not entirely, i'll explain to you offline...
Oga Kalvan, my apologies again, we've made our peace .. Happy Sunday to all

castrogee: Truly, I think the brouhaha between NATO (with America as the chief) and Russia will definitely be a bad end for the NATO. I understand that the USA wants to maintain financial and political hegemony in the world. And Just like Putin said in his 2007 Munich speech I don't think a UNIPOLAR world is possible today.

No matter how hard America tries - the rising of countries from east Europe and East Asia is absolutely inevitable. My only concern is where Africa stands in all these... And that's why I get screwed up when some Nigerians try to suckle up the west or even Russia. We should find our identity and follow it. For me I think a multipolarised world would be of immense benefit to Africa and that's if we are able to play by the rules. Having a single country; weather Russia, America or China dictate to the rest of the world, for me is monopolistic and I liken it to the same scornful communism that the west is against.

I thinks what's happening now is Gods design to bring Africa to the fore... If only we can grab these opportunities. Word! Western sanctions can Never bring down Russia without first harming Europe.

Missy89:

For a country that started having elections in 1991 and founded as far back as the 13th century,
Democracy will take at least 3-5 decades before it is fully integrated in a place like Russia. Even western democracies had their initial drawbacks like having some particular people or class ineligible to vote etc.
Being fully democratic didn't pay off the the Yelstin era. it lead to many nationalistic/Separatist movements that almost fragmented the country and plunder from the oligarchs.

one of Russia's intellectuals sergey Karaganov said they actually warned their western counterparts about the implications of trying to rush and support too much western style movements and institutions in the mid 90s because they taught it would cause instability and the country had too much problems to deal with at that time. but they weren't listened to. and to use his words, he said "we had to use the iron fist"

there are too many things on the agenda, like stability, law and order, security in the far east and west needs to be achieved before full democracy can be implemented. The country has always been held together by force because the areas that grantees its security always rebel.
And security is important for people who have lived for thousands of years repealing invasions.
Its a slow process and location and history always determines the actions and inactions of most countries

50calibre:
Lol Lewisham shopping centre is a hub for pretty chics, I remember this chic I used to buy pop corn from, she was so hot, I couldn't summon the courage to tell her I had a crush on her. I just kept patronising her pop corn business.

I love South London, that's where I feel more at home. My friends in the North can't understand my love for the south, they don't even know places in the south, some haven't even heard of woolwich or bexleyheath.

The thing is most of these London gangs these days are made up of teenagers, they're naive and careless. When I went to Manchester, I saw proper thugs, adults running organised crime, the police just stay away.

shymexx:

I think Africa's foreign policy in the scheme of things should be about: no enemies and no friends. We've tried the west for so long and we've not benefitted anything from it. And sucking up to Russia or China would also give them leverage over us. So, to get the best bargain out of it and the bipolar world that looks inevitable, we've to play our cards right - go for the safer option.

There's no friend in international politics and every country out there is trying to protect its national interests, and maximise every opportunity available. Right now, the west is broke, and they have nothing to offer anyone. Evidently, it'll be wiser for us to align a bit more with emerging economies(countries that are somewhat like us, but still far better than us) in a lot of things.

Personally, I think America's game right now, since its fall from empire status looks more likely than ever(but I can't predict the timeframe), is to bring Europe down with it. Hence Africa needs to stay away from that, so as not to end up as a collective victim of circumstance.

shymexx:

Lmao...you should've told her. That's one thing I'll not do, so as not to let the moment pass me by. She might be on it as well and the highest she's going to say is "no" - and your conscience would be clear after that. Rejection is normal and everyone gets rejected all the time. I miss Lewisham! I've not even been there since 2010...and I still go to South London like once or twice a month, to see family and friends.

There's no place like South London in the UK...the hype and madness are what makes the place thick. And the chics are on a next level - straight-forward with no hanky panky. I live in East London/Essex axis now(moved here straight from Brum) and the chics are just dumb and hideous lol. And it's more or less dead. But it has a lot of middle class black folks(tons of naij folks as well). Heck, there are a few rich black people here as well -and I know some Jamaican guy that drives a Ferrari - H-billions.

Yes, the gang culture is crazy these days. When it first started - it was to fight racist yobs and the Jamaican yardies. Then in Peckham, it moved to Nigerians and Ghanaians coming together to fight against Caribbeans(Caribbeans used to fvck us up back in the day everywhere in Peckham lool). Afterwards, the drug money got involved and everyone came together to start making money, and territories were formed. And as black people started moving towards Kent from Peckham and Brixton, the gang culture followed them there. A lot of those living in Thamesmead, Abbeywood etc. used to live in Peckham. Even Essex and Dagenham as well. Also where I live now, a lot of the naija families here used to live in South London. The kids have taken over...but they aren't as vicious as the peak periods of 2002-2007 when London was Londonistan, with gang deaths everywhere.

publicenemy:

Would you say the same of china? Becos they both are handles their internal and external political affairs similarly?

castrogee:

Exactly, the point @OP. I'm no fan of America or Russia. But I think what's going on in Ukraine in all fairness is neither Putins fault or Russias'. The imbroglio Ukraine found itself is a lesson to all western suckers. Nations of the world should be allowed to develop independently without interference from anybody or any country under any guise irrespective of who's interfering.

I think there is wisdom in the present leadership of Nigeria. I understand that Nigeria recently refused to partake in the exploitative EPA agreement which could have suckle up our domestic manufacturing. Such an example should be applauded by Nigerians and other African nations should emulate it.

The way NATO carries itself is becoming of an aggressor rather than a mediator, and for once somebody is standing up to it. The final rhetoric is that Putin might have a long walk to victory but maybe he might achieve what he wants.

50calibre:
Haha I was younger then, this chic was at least 4/5 years older and she was hot, no chance mate... Loool. I used to be shy when it came to approaching girls, then I hunt better in packs not solo, Uni changed that.

Lol @Londonistan, that name was hilarious. I've been in Kent for a while now, it's more low key and calm though I spend a lot of time in South London.

I've got relatives scattered all over London so I get to see different sides once in a while.

shymexx:

Honestly, it's not like I'm a big fan of Russia like that. I think I'm even more sympathetic to the American cause, because like everyone else in the generation, American culture influenced all of us subconsciously. And apart from the UK, I know more about America(and its history) than any other country in the world. However, I was opportune to read about the Soviet Union, Russia, and Putin a few years ago(the book was authored by a Prof. Emeritus from Oxford University but I can't remember the name now) and that changed my perception. Coupled with [b]America's excessiveness and pseudo-humanitarian interventionism everywher[/b]e in the last two decades that has caused more problems, than actually solve anything. The Libya debacle was the tipping point....and the whole Ukraine thing is just senseless being that the country is a basket-case with absolutely nothing to offer anyone - and it's next to Russia. Even if Russia were North Korea, it's still an unacceptable behaviour since America will never allow that to happen next to its borders

In as much as the EPA thing needs to be applauded, there's still a lot to be done. Take for example the "Terrorism in Africa Summit" in Paris and the just concluded "US-Africa Summit" that yield a meagre $14billion investment. That just shows how clueless these folks are and we're still being treated like the colonial days. Once you go around begging for hand-outs, you have no leverage in anything. We need more and our leaders need to act fast as the global power landscape is shifting. Brazil and India are already putting their respective countries in advantageous positions. Ditto Turkey which is also part of NATO, but doing more productive businesses with the far east and Brazil. Even Germany has been taking full advantage of everything by expanding its market everywhere.

50calibre:

I have to ignore you, you're a dog.

Bwahaha... I am now a dog! Huh! That is very interesting thing to know. I am not so much different from Snoop D o g g y Dog looking at the word. But, you are a ugly desert lizard!

Missy89:

No he did not form the Oligarchs . most of them were Yelstin's .Only few of them that AGREED to pay their taxes and stay out of politics were allowed to join the new,obedient Putin's Oligarchs.Abrahamovic is an example.
The stubborn ones like Khodorkovsky tried to fight back with their money by sponsoring "democratic institutions" and got burned.

shymexx:

If I actually want to lead a revolution in naija and become the president or at least carve out part of the country for myself to rule, it won't cost me anything. I just don't have time for the country.

Putin is the best thing to happen to Russia, and I'm happy for them as long as the people who're stakeholders in the country are happy.

Missy89:

This is why sanctions will fail. Money isn't the driving force of the Putin's Russia. has more to do with pride. the only people that needs convincing are the Elites because they are the one loosing money. the people already know that any Maidan style revolution will be crushed. besides they support his position anyway.

Lol....

all4naija:
No sane youth is going to join your primitive man's revolution that will end like the Russian state. For you to get to a position where you will be acting like the famous Russian KGB who wants to bring back the past all for self-interest parading it as though it is the interest of the state. I can't imagine such an idea to be reasonable in this 21st century to any young mind.

I think Putin is not the best thing that has ever happened to Russia because he makes things worse looking at what he is trying to achieve through his bullying with little success. The state could have been in a better position while cooperating with the free world. The present generation is about moving humanity forward, it is not about showing of strength when the much to be done in exploring the universe to propagate human race. Jeez! Most of you supporting this man's idea are ignorant of the future world ahead of us. I hope the future youths of Russians are not going to buy into problem creation. The world has had enough of it. One would thought humans would learn from pass mistakes. It is very sad we cannot cooperate very well though.

shymexx:

Lmao...do you actually read your own posts? You're more or less a comedian, I tell ya.

So, in your obtuse mind, to move humanity forward, everyone has to bow down to American bombs and global domination, despite how diverse the planet is - with different cultures and people, no? And countries where their mentality is completely different also have to join this one-world and one-culture unipolar world - with a ruler like "Lucifer" controlling everyone, yes? Keep dreaming and don't leave your sick bed in the half-way house!

Get a book and read about the far east ideology and mentality, and how they're completely different from the west.

all4naija:
Oh, I see! You have systematically played down on my post with 'Comedian' and explain it to your best understanding while expressing your poor opinion. Whatever you have regurgitated in this very post is not related to what I said in my previous comment, whatsoever! You are a grandeur in misleading people as famous Russian KGB leader in his mischievousness and bullying tactics. The one who is bent on causing trouble where it is not necessarily required of him. That I am not going to accept in your formulation to misinterpret my words. Jeez!

Why would anybody take your post serious? When you are using a term like Lucifer to explain your view of a free world or what freedom is all about. No people in their right senses would want to be subjected to dictatorial government. That is very clear in my statement.

MissMeiya:

Well put. The ignorance in here is shameful.

castrogee:

Putin is highly regarded by his country men, and I think that's what matters most - irrespective of what the west or anybody might say. He might haven taken some wrong steps, but he remains a nationalist to Russians.

xp17: bros, if you know how many humans and animals died during the world war 1 and world war 2 respectively, you would have gone in your quit to pray that God should not allow this happen in your generation.



America is very civilized, we believe in diplomacy, not like Russia. we've been at the centre to resolve the crisis in the middle east as a guardian of freedom to the people and the American way of life.

Russia is a small country and too small to be
ended by the US in 24hrs. the numbers of the US
army+marine+air force+ navy is more than the
size of the Russian population

America is the only country in the world that has fought 2 war simultaneously and still conquered.
note: the US army creed never accepts defeat and never quit.

God is good, that was why he made Obama for this time. if it were Bush's administration, the US would had since invaded Russia , take over her oil and leave Putin on the run to take asylum from one of the G6 countries. thank God Obama believes in peace talk to war.


as dumb a'ss as putin, he gave a sanction that his people would suffer most, more than the sanctioned . seriously putin would be better off in the rehab .

war is ugly, so as Russia
peace is beautiful , just like America.




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I'm talking about the 21st century and super world power, and some folks are talking back to the 19th century and past glory.

for those quoting me,
I repeat, Russia is a small country, even fewer than Nigeria. isolated landmass doesn't count , this ain't geography, this is real life

all4naija:
You are perhaps correct but there are equally good number of those who don't find him interesting looking at the incessant bombing, resistant behavior toward his policies and protests in the past. If the Russian people are given the time to express themselves we might just see there could more people who are opposed to his views than those who accepted them. However, Putin has been suppressing those voices going against his government. How can one know if his people really like him in the right sense of his oppressive nature?

Being a nationalist on the extreme right wing is becoming more of a problem to that region. I think he should quit politic and let the younger generation of Russians decide their future.

castrogee:

Of course it's difficult to run a govt without opposition and certainly any govt that wants to change the lives of people has opposition to deal with. Certainly, president Putin has opposition, but then again we look at the percentage of those who oppose him to those who like him. Brother, 80% approval is no child's play!

If we tell ourselves the truth, Putin is not to blame in Ukraine imbroglio... I think it utter insanity for the USA to conceive the idea of trying to snatch Crimea from Russia, for crying out loud that can never never never happen. Even if the entire world is against Russia. Heck! Don't you know the significance of Crimea to Russia? A part of Ukraine that houses the Sevastopol where Russia has it naval base?

Russia has two naval bases in the world both in Syria and Ukraine and the USA with over 70 naval bases all over the world still wants to snatch the little 2 bases Russia has. Oh common if you were Putin what will you do? Allow the yanks to station there naval bases in Black Sea Sevastopol? Absolutely not!

For me, my concern is does this goings-on between Russia and west support Africa? And Nigeria in particular? If it does then let's catch this opportunity and enhance our leverage in global affairs.

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all4naija:
Putin has be returning to power intermittently like a dictator would. As if Russia is his father's property to command with old ideology.

Seriously, you are wrong in your view. The 80% approval rating is for Crimea and Ukraine related. That means it is for those two particular cases not is government in Russia. He silent those who would really disapprove of his government. So, the approval rating you are so much pointing to is noting but a false facade to outsiders to believe is very much loved by almost all of his people. Those 80% agree with him because of his propaganda and lies.

Putin is highly to blame for the problem in Ukraine. He played his KGB trick to get the former female leader, Yulian Shevchenko, off the country's leadership position to be jailed while scheming a process to have his crony in power who has to tilt the economy to Moscow control and less of Europe. That resulted in the protest which left few Ukrainians dead and deposed of the Putin's right hand man, President Viktor Yanukovych, who refused to sign agreement with European Union as accepted by the Ukrainian people. To make Russian interest work Putin has to use the Eastern Ukrainians who are pro-Russians to ferment troubles. Firstly, starting with Crimea using military occupation initially and following by the referendum. Secondly, he is supplying weapons to the Donetsk separatist group(the rebels who downed the Malaysia airline M17) to fight the Ukrainian government. As I type this message Russia is still supplying heavy artillery to the rebels. He is highly to blame for the problems in Ukraine for meddling in the affairs of a sovereign state.

It is not about Naval base. The fact that you are formulating an idea support by rumor carried by rumor mongers proves you have no good grasped of the whole issue. Nobody disputed the Naval base in Crimea with Russia until the plan by Putin to control Ukraine and hold them back from signing agreement with European Union on economic trade. The war in Syria is not about Russian base but about Al Assad who refuses to leave power and make some reformations. It is unfortunate that it affects Russian base in Syria and you don't have to blame it on USA. Why can't Putin's Russia cooperate with the free world?

This is where you are always wrong. Whether it will benefit Nigeria or not is not the issue here but peace for the world and cooperating to move humanity forward is for the good of all. You seem to see things from a single perspective and that is not good of the present generation of youths we belong to.

Missy89:

HA!

where are you getting all the garbage?

first, there is no Yulian Shevchenko.
second, tymoshenko was brought down by medvedev not Putin (In fact Putin preferred tymoshenko)
Lol @ as you type this message Russia still supplies weapons. what prove do u actually have of that? In fact the US already said there is no prove they are getting support.
Finally, there is no "free world" its just semantics. the approval rating pools are usually done by Levada Center which is independent and highly reputable polling organization.

all4naija:
Thank you for that correction of names. I found it difficult to pronounce and differentiate those Ukrainian names. I mean to say Yulia Tymoshenko(I just Googled on that name) and Viktor Yanukovych. They haven't changed anything about my points though.

If you think Russia is not supplying pro-Russian separatist group weapons. Where are they getting the ones they used to fight from? Please...! It is on the news.

There is the 'free world' as a term used for democratic countries. I am not saying the approval rating is not done but it is misrepresented by some people in this thread. For the fact that it is related to the problems in Ukraine not the Putin's government per se is a testament to what I am trying to pass across to them in my previous posts.

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