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Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by omenka(m): 10:25am On Sep 02, 2014
size38: When u tell Nigerians what manner of PDP, the ruling party is. We will tell u what u don't want to know about APC
Leave the moronic Op. How many times have PDP commended the good works of APC in states where they are the opposition?? What manner of party steals and then hobnob with crooks and terrorists the way PDP does??

And what manner of Mod took this trash to the fp

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Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by ukpaku: 10:25am On Sep 02, 2014
i was xpeting to read an objective and factual articles probably pin-pointing the wrongful rebelionsness of apc as u put it but ur article lack critical thinking and logic. Or do u xpect the opposition to endorse Gej for 2nd term and may be organize a tan rally for accrose the globe?if u don't see any bad doning in his gov, allow us that see suffering, insecurity,poverty and so much more to critisize. I wonder how nigeria would have been without strong opposition.

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Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by Wittylens(m): 10:27am On Sep 02, 2014
Its Not About The Party Name . Its About Those People That Make Up The Party.

Most Politicians In APC are corrupt people who Have Once Held Authoritative Positions In The Past And They Did NOTHING!!.

If PDP is Bad APC is worse.

APC = Association Of Past Criminals.

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Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by ayodiya: 10:27am On Sep 02, 2014
maestroferddi: You can avail us with your understanding what an opposition party entails?


Was this how our heroes past like Awo and Azikiwe played opposition that made them national icons?
opposition is opposition because you different approach to issue. you have limited of nigerian pdp knowledge of poitics , in america GOP are conservetives while democrats are liberal. why did the america govt shut down early this year because republican who were majority in the house refuse a budget that will put them in more debt and what are they saying about Obama atitude towards terrorism go online and read.
the only party that can't play opposition is pdp the impeachment saga in the country is intiated by Pdp with flimsy reasons.
op you no point.
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by ozikam: 10:28am On Sep 02, 2014
Apc is not diplomatic in approach,they'v lost th target bcuz they tnk wt their nyash. 99.5% of them are incredible, educated illitrates,selfish and irrational. They hav lost in all ramification. Imagn up tl now strategies for the next presidential election.they shuld 4get elitism and tnk to th grassroot. Wel,i am available to help them to initiate somthn reasonable,all i ned is providn th necesary facilities, i wl provid a team. We did it in USA durn obama campaign.
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by kipesco(m): 10:29am On Sep 02, 2014
obailala:

@Op,
To correct an erroneous assumption which you made, it is ONLY in Nigeria or maybe in Africa and other third world shaky democracies that an opposition party would come out and applaud the ruling party. I suppose your model of an opposition is what we have in Labour Party and APGA or in the 2007 and 2011 elections where 30 different political parties would endorse the incumbent president as their candidate?

You cannot be blamed because you were born in a country where all your life, you have been ruled by autocratic dictators and even when we transited to 'civilian' rule, we still practised an autocratic single party system up till last year when the APC was formed. Therefore, it doesn't come as a surprise that you and most Nigerians who are 'probably' sympathetic to GEJ/PDP and who are already used to autocracy, are confused at the concept of an opposition party being a pain in the butt of the ruling party.

Just like OseghaleEbosele rightly mentioned on this thread, go and study the situation in USA (Democratic Party vs Republican Party), UK and Australia(Labour Party vs Conservative Party), France (Socialist Party vs Union for a Popular Movement), Germany (Social Democratic. Party vs Christian Democratic Union). In the UK today, for every major decision made by the prime minister, an open debate would be held in the house of parliament between the prime minister Vs. the head of the opposition party; You need to understand that that is the beauty of democracy. The kind of opposition we have in Nigeria today is even a child's play because no matter how the APC screams of criticises, the ruling party still autocratically goes ahead to do whatever it likes...

...and just before I close this, @Op, can you please give an example of one of the 'good' policies of GEJ which was opposed by APC?

Sorry to say this, last term we had two main opposition party the ACN and the CPC.
If Okorocha wins in IMO does it change his attitudes to when he conducted in APGA.
One thing is the most of these governors people put them there and if they are no longer with u, u cannot win. Why has Goodluck reconciled with Obasanjo.
APC leaders check there records and check Jonathans.
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by CharliParker: 10:30am On Sep 02, 2014
lilprinze: APC is a party full of evil people and hypocrites who are suffering from terminal
brain cancer that never sees anything good in what GEJ or FG is doing. They have about 5½ month to live they shall officially die and become history in this country after GEJ is declared winner of the 2015 presidential election.
thats how you PDP have been wishing death to most Nigerians in the name of politics(GEJ) i am in APC so I pray that Nigeria shall live to recover their lost glory come 2015. GEJ may be a good man but I hate those in PDP the are good politicians but bad leaders so I insist we Nigerians try another hand come 2015 I pray Nigeria must be better

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Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by ayindejimmy(m): 10:30am On Sep 02, 2014
maestroferddi: No-one is saying we shouldn't have a viable opposition. But just as it was pointed out above, the opposition should function as a veritable watchdog of government.

The present practice of speaking for the sake of speaking should be discontinued. Some of these actions are undermining national interest and development.

The least all of us can do is to support every elected government to deliver democracy dividends as promised during electioneering campaigns.

Parties must rise above partisan and petty bickering if the country must achieve her set goals and aspirations.

Maybe if PDP start emulating the ruling parties in the Western world APC might do the same thing Oppositions in Western worlds. Until then, same old shit everyday.
In all your argument u av failed woefully to understand that respect is reciprocal.

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Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by Engen(m): 10:31am On Sep 02, 2014
maestroferddi: I am personally astounded by the developments in this country. The degree of bitterness and intolerance are getting pretty worrisome.

Granted, the government in power has a lot to do to meet the expectation of the electorates that voted it into power. But then we have to draw a line between a constructive opposition and sheer unreasonableness.


In other climes, opposition elements make their mark by complementing the party in power. In other words, they, as a watchdog of government, provide constructive opposition. They praise the government when it makes positive progress and provide constructive criticism when the government falls out of line.

From the foregoing, the opposition duly earn their respect and recognition.
Infact,the opposition conduct themselves as a credible alternative. Put in another way, the opposition demonstrate, by their action, that they be could entrusted to form a broad-based government without jeopardising the common good.


The case of Nigeria is pathetically unfortunate. We have a situation where the major opposition party practically see nothing good in whatever the government does. It is as if the main opposition party viz APC is pre-set willy-nilly to denigrate and disparage all actions of government.


I am constrained to ask whether this tendency is purely an African thing; where you must denigrate and malign your counterpart even when doi so is at the detriment of the common good...

The All Progressives Congress (APC), Nigeria's main opposition party, I believe, has not covered itself in that much glory over the past few days. One would have expected some level of appreciation and commendation for the growing democratic culture in Nigeria as witnessed by the free and fair elections in some states in the past few months.

Instead, all one hears are a cacophony of discordant voices.
Now, I am beginning to comprehend why Julius Nyerere asserted that African culture abhors opposition...

Really? Then you don't know anything about politics...The major job of an opposition is to oppose...even when you think the government is doing great the opposition feels they have a better way...

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Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by hensben(m): 10:33am On Sep 02, 2014
Op I know you are trying to convince the masses to elect pdp again, incase you dont know pdp started politics of bitterness in nigeria far back or were you not in nigeria?, thats how politics is structured in nigeria. For example, you go to edo state and see/hear how pdp spread propaganda against apc(oshiomhole)...Btw, i am not in support of any political parties because they are all crooks but we need a party like apc to put pdp in check not political party(apga) that will be rubbing their(pdp) ego to steal more and be claiming boss when they are suppose to serve us(masses).

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Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by obailala(m): 10:33am On Sep 02, 2014
A simple challenge for the Op and all the die-hard PDP sympathizers on this thread who wish for a country with a lame opposition... For the sake of a proper argument, can you guys kindly name just 3 cases where the PDP led government made a good decision and it was opposed by the APC??

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Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by careema(f): 10:34am On Sep 02, 2014
egift: APC is a breath of fresh air to the corrupt ridden PDP that has spent 15 years in making Nigeria a giant crawling on it stomach. APC is a viable alternative to PDP. Never in this democratic dispensation have we ever had an alternative that defeat the monster called PDP.

By voting in APC and voting out PDP, Nigerians will achieve 4 things in our Political Space:
1. That the Masses are the Boss. While our politicians are the servants.
2. It will mean the APC will not repeat the callous and nonchalant leadership dispositions that PDP have been dishing out for the last 15 years.
3. PDP will have the opportunity to go back to the drawing board to prioritize what is paramount to them (protect criminals or serve the masses).
4. And since PDP know how to steal, they will better police the FG under APC by exposing any imaginable malpractice even before Nigerians can find out.

So any Patriotic Nigerian will see that it is for the best interest of Nigeria to vote out PDP and elect APC come 2015. This nation will triumph again.

Same script, difeerent cast. the masses have lost before voting. Voting is a lost cause. What nigeria needs is revolution not some opposition party so desperate to win.

I come from a family of politicians. APC, same script different cast
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by Nobody: 10:35am On Sep 02, 2014
Gullible Nigerians. Once politicians are not favoured in a political party they switch to the other. What we fail to understand is that an armed robber that wears a police uniform is still an armed robber. For those thinking APC isn't as corrupt at PDP keep dreaming.
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by Guk: 10:35am On Sep 02, 2014
Whilst people say PDP and APC are 2 sides of the same coin and therefore no difference, what worries me is the inability of Nigerians to accept the pathetically poor govts we have at all levels. We the people should be the main opposition through respective pressure groups like NLC; NBA; NMA; NANS; NUTRW etc but unfortunately, govt at al levels have used money to decimate all these groups.

Whichever one of us who agrees that any govt has done well is totally devoid of any standard in his/her life. The basic needs of any human being has not been given thorough policy consideration by any govt and i quote any govt. I know people are quick to reel out the perceived achievements of GEJ but my response is at what cost. You spend 1000% on what you require 10% to provide and you are applauded. His decision making lacks any form of depth and he is applauded embarassed SAD!!!

Coming down to the so called Performing Govs, i have used a particular road in a prominent area for 16 years and the road is destructive and yet, we hail them. The bottomline is we are our own Natural disaster & until each of us, me inclusive make a demand on our leaders to do the right thing, there will be no country to lead in the nearest future.

So, what should we do? Go to your local govt office and demand to know why services you pay tax for are not bn supplied. By the time they receive repeated visit from us regurlary, they will wake up

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Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by Nobody: 10:35am On Sep 02, 2014
Engen:

Really? Then you don't know anything about politics...The major job of an opposition is to oppose...even when you think the government is doing great the opposition feels they have a better way...
don't mind the Op,he simply does not know the meaning of the word "Opposition". If he thinks APC will be like APGA and LP,then he got it absolutely wrong.

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Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by bayulll01(m): 10:36am On Sep 02, 2014
the op is a confused buffoon and a shallow minded eeedioot,what you should be concern with is a dividend of democracy instead of bitter epistles you are spewing,instead of you to preach on how nigeria will move forward those politician dint give a fuuuck about you and I,get it to ur head werey

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Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by akpanikpe(m): 10:36am On Sep 02, 2014
The manner can be defined from the reverse CPA Corrupt People Association.
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by CharliParker: 10:36am On Sep 02, 2014
kipesco:
Sorry to say this, last term we had two main opposition party the ACN and the CPC.
If Okorocha wins in IMO does it change his attitudes to when he conducted in APGA.
One thing is the most of these governors people put them there and if they are no longer with u, u cannot win. Why has Goodluck reconciled with Obasanjo.
APC leaders check there records and check Jonathans.
what is this one saying self good is ur choice of words but no material meaning
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by Orikinla(m): 10:36am On Sep 02, 2014
Omexonomy: Durring obj's tenure vote dont count whenever election is coming we athoumatically know who will win but gej came and change all that. E.g durring obj tenure osun election could have be convienetly rig in favour of PDP and the millitary and police will take care of the rest but gej never thaught of such rather he alowed the people decide for them selves.

GEJ did not change anything.

You political sycophants are his worst enemies.
Telling him lies will not help him.
Only the truth can save him.

The ruling party PDP orchestrated by the corrupt leadership rigged the election in Ekiti.
On a normal day without political intimidation and deployment of a battalion of soldiers, PDP cannot win any election in Ekiti.
They tried their political intimidation in Osun, but failed, because if you can bully Ekiti people, you cannot bully Osun people.

Nigeria's ruling party is the laughing stock in the White House when the video of how bags of rice were shared to voters before the gubernatorial election is still playing on YouTube.
A single act of political bribery will disqualify any contestant in the US, UK and other civilized counties.

Using thousands of soldiers to bully the opposition party is in fact an impeachable offence.
Only in an uncivilized country that a president like the President of Nigeria will still be in power, he would have been impeached in a true democratic government.

The National Assembly is a charade.

What you and your politicians are doing in Nigeria is JUNGLE DEMOCRACY.

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Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by Nobody: 10:38am On Sep 02, 2014
Nonsense comment from the OP sad

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Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by AdeniyiA(m): 10:39am On Sep 02, 2014
"Opposition" means.
1. the action of opposing, resisting, or combating.
2. antagonism or hostility.
constructive or not depends on how the ruling party takes it, but as far as i'm concerned, the definition/meaning does not provoke positive actions. ..
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by Nobody: 10:39am On Sep 02, 2014
Omexonomy: Durring obj's tenure vote dont count whenever election is coming we athoumatically know who will win but gej came and change all that. E.g durring obj tenure osun election could have be convienetly rig in favour of PDP and the millitary and police will take care of the rest but gej never thaught of such rather he alowed the people decide for them selves.

A loser's argument grin

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Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by hensben(m): 10:39am On Sep 02, 2014
Engen:

Really? Then you don't know anything about politics...The major job of an opposition is to oppose...even when you think the government is doing great the opposition feels they have a better way...
Dont mind op, he is a pdp apologist...you know election is around the corner time to spread propaganda again, even if apc is same as pdp as people claim, we need change haba, i am tired of pdp, 15 years in office and things are getting worse, high cost of living, still no stable electricity and yet everyday we hear trillions of naira on TV.

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Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by Abok1(m): 10:40am On Sep 02, 2014
omenka: Leave the moronic Op. How many times have PDP commended the good works of APC in states where they are the opposition?? What manner of party steals and then hobnob with crooks and terrorists the way PDP does??

And what manner of Mod took this trash to the fp




Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.

- MARK TWAIN

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Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by obailala(m): 10:43am On Sep 02, 2014
kipesco:
Sorry to say this, last term we had two main opposition party the ACN and the CPC.
If Okorocha wins in IMO does it change his attitudes to when he conducted in APGA.
One thing is the most of these governors people put them there and if they are no longer with u, u cannot win. Why has Goodluck reconciled with Obasanjo.
APC leaders check there records and check Jonathans.
You should understand what I meant when I said Nigeria first had an opposition just last year. If not for anything, it was only last year that PDP sympathizers first pee'd on their pants because of the existence if an opposition.

I do not think I understand where you are driving at but if you are a Nigerian you should know too well that ALL our politicians irrespective of tribe, ethnicity, religion, political party are the same. All their ideologies and actions are driven by an inordinate greed for public resources. No one is a saint and it pisses me off when some people delude themselves to believe that the crooks in the PDP fold are less greedy and less thirsty for power than the ones in the APC (even when it is clear that it's the same set of individuals that rotate about these 2 parties)

...and if I may ask, what is it you mean by asking of the record of Jonathan and the record of APC leaders?.. are you deluding yourself to believe that GEJ is not a crook even with all you see happening everyday in Nigeria?? undecided

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Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by Jayne2014(f): 10:50am On Sep 02, 2014
APC,PDP,APGA,LP,PPA,etc
They are all the same self-serving politicians.
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by martowskin1(m): 10:50am On Sep 02, 2014
egift: APC is a breath of fresh air to the corrupt ridden PDP that has spent 15 years in making Nigeria a giant crawling on it stomach. APC is a viable alternative to PDP. Never in this democratic dispensation have we ever had an alternative that defeat the monster called PDP.

By voting in APC and voting out PDP, Nigerians will achieve 4 things in our Political Space:
1. That the Masses are the Boss. While our politicians are the servants.
2. It will mean the APC will not repeat the callous and nonchalant leadership dispositions that PDP have been dishing out for the last 15 years.
3. PDP will have the opportunity to go back to the drawing board to prioritize what is paramount to them (protect criminals or serve the masses).
4. And since PDP know how to steal, they will better police the FG under APC by exposing any imaginable malpractice even before Nigerians can find out.

So any Patriotic Nigerian will see that it is for the best interest of Nigeria to vote out PDP and elect APC come 2015. This nation will triumph again.

OLD WINE IN A NEW BOTTLE
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by duncan511: 10:51am On Sep 02, 2014
ALL IS WELL
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by hensben(m): 10:51am On Sep 02, 2014
berem: don't mind the Op,he simply does not know the meaning of the word "Opposition". If he thinks APC will be like APGA and LP,then he got it absolutely wrong.
Frankly speaking, i am angry at this op, so apc should be rubbing pdp's ego to milk nigeria dry as apga, he should go to edo state and see/hear how pdp spread propaganda against apc state(oshimhole), always looking for fault to spew rubbish on itv(pdp station). he should know pdp started politics of bitterness, thuggery, rigging, et al in nigeria. For example, oshiomhole started it cool in his first tenure by carrying pdp along and telling them(pdp) they are one until they killed his PA and even tried to kill him too.

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Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by obailala(m): 10:53am On Sep 02, 2014
egift:

4. And since PDP know how to steal, they will better police the FG under APC by exposing any imaginable malpractice even before Nigerians can find out.
Word!

Lol... Now that's deep reasoning grin

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Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by room089: 10:53am On Sep 02, 2014
I'm just observing things as they unfold in this our great country.
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by abbakacici: 10:53am On Sep 02, 2014
maestroferddi: The attitude you and several misguided folks are displaying is the crux of the matter.


Why is it that whatever the opposition don't understand must be wrong? Every policy initiated by the government must be wrong irrespective of the propriety of such policy.
This is the question most non-partisan Nigerians are asking.

Who told you guys that that is how politics is played? It is so painful to see that people cannot distinguish between nihilism and constructive engagement.

If you are not a good follower, how do you intend to become a good leader?

PDP is this, PDP is that...
Is the opposition aiming to outdo the ruling party in outlandish behaviour or to demonstrate that they are a better alternative by examplary conduct?

Does the Republican Party in the US set out to undermine the American government by showing to the outside world America's frailties as is almost the case in Nigeria?


Does the Labour Party in the UK go out of their way to rubbish the office of the Prime Minister just to score cheap political points or to engage in acts that undercut British institutions?

In advance democracies all over the world what we see are issue-based opposition politics and criticisms and not the desperado-style opposition being enacted in Nigeria where power is being sought at all cost.

Little wonder opposition parties are yet to form a government in Nigeria since independence in 1960.
am 100% sure you never listed or watch politics outside Nigerian. recently conservative party (uk leading party) postposed a bill to stop uk citizen from going to iraq and syria but labour want to stop it. although conservative party have raise the terror alert but labour are still saying no to all the postposed bills by conservative party. while republican shut the usa government down just because obama want to subsides health care

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