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Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by maestroferddi: 5:33pm On Sep 02, 2014 |
adanny01:Am I the one not making sense or is it you that have obviously allowed narrow-mindedness, parochial considerations and tunnel vision to preclude you from thinking out of the box? So APC can only model good leadership and democratic principles solely when it captures power at the center? What exactly do you understand by leadership? You appear to forget that there are many opportunities to demonstrate democracy and good leadership like in intra-party affairs and sundry areas. What of the states under the purview of APC? Have they all covered themselves in the glory of performance? Why not take out time to reflect on my submissions? Why hit the keypad without addressing salient questions raised? The burning question for which I am looking for answers is why the desperation within APC to seize power at all costs? Is it not axiomatic that people are known to bungle things when they are desperate/hasty? Good strategists are known to factor in time considerations prior to the evolution of the desired end product. 3 Likes |
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by maestroferddi: 5:42pm On Sep 02, 2014 |
honeric01:Tell how you expect me to take you serious when you are displaying grievous subjectivity? You might need to do a little research on press freedom and civil liberties indices to ascertain where we and where we are coming from. Opposition parties spokesmen arrested and jailed? Can you provide specific examples of such arbitrary repression? 3 Likes |
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by honeric01(m): 5:49pm On Sep 02, 2014 |
maestroferddi: Tell how you expect me to take you serious when you are displaying grievous subjectivity? You must be living in Isle of man lol.. The elections that took place in Ekiti and osun state, did you not hear about the arrest and detentions or you truly live in the Isle of man? What about the usage of military men in a democratic election, where in the world is this done? is this also a democratic practise? |
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by maestroferddi: 6:05pm On Sep 02, 2014 |
honeric01:So in your warped imagination, the government should allow violence and insecurity fester out of control? I am sure it escaped your consciousness that our democracy is still too formative to relax security arrangements. My problem is that you guys are displaying a dangerous propensity for confusion. I hope you could see the pointlessness of the hue and cry on security deployment in the by-election conducted in Niger State days ago? Was the election not cancelled because of election related violence? So what exactly are you talking about? 3 Likes |
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by nesta007(m): 6:06pm On Sep 02, 2014 |
Omexonomy: Durring obj's tenure vote dont count whenever election is coming we athoumatically know who will win but gej came and change all that. E.g durring obj tenure osun election could have be convienetly rig in favour of PDP and the millitary and police will take care of the rest but gej never thaught of such rather he alowed the people decide for them selves. For your info yar adua changed every not Gej. |
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by maestroferddi: 6:06pm On Sep 02, 2014 |
xclusive43:Pass. 1 Like |
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by Nobody: 6:31pm On Sep 02, 2014 |
egift: APC is a breath of fresh air to the corrupt ridden PDP that has spent 15 years in making Nigeria a giant crawling on it stomach. APC is a viable alternative to PDP. Never in this democratic dispensation have we ever had an alternative that defeat the monster called PDP. Nonsense. Everyone knows that the ultimate goal of APC is T̶̲̥̅Ơ̴͡ islamatize Nigeria, which is not possible. They seek for islamic militant support T̶̲̥̅Ơ̴͡ inflict harm on the innocent Nigerian populace. Come T̶̲̥̅Ơ̴͡ think of it, where is corruption not in existence? Wait a minute, let me get it. Oh APC is coming with a corrupt free government. Hahaha!!! I laugh in political language. Can Ɣø̲̣̣U imagine? Threatening T̶̲̥̅Ơ̴͡ cause a divide if the PDP wins. Has anyone sat down T̶̲̥̅Ơ̴͡ think about why exactly APC wants T̶̲̥̅Ơ̴͡ rule at all cost? There is always a hidden agenda. Even the militant group BokoHaram, supports the course of APC. This takes me T̶̲̥̅Ơ̴͡ a documentary confession of a former bokoharam militant, who said that the plan was T̶̲̥̅Ơ̴͡ creep in2 every arms of government and helm of affairs both in private and and public firms so that at the end of the day, when it was time T̶̲̥̅Ơ̴͡ take over (a coup), it will go as planned and and knowing fully well that they will be engaged b the Nigerian Military, plans have been put in place T̶̲̥̅Ơ̴͡ import militants across the borders. This way Nigeria will be arrested, taken over and converted into an islam nation. They had T̶̲̥̅Ơ̴͡ pitch their tent in APC because that had most muslims in them. Therefore, APC = BOKOHARAM 3 Likes |
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by Houstency(m): 6:31pm On Sep 02, 2014 |
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Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by Donshegzy007: 6:44pm On Sep 02, 2014 |
OseghaleEbosele: From the article above it is obvious that the writer doesn't know anything abuit politics, whether in Nigeria or in other parts of the world. I suggest he should study the situation in USA (Democratic Party vs Republican Party), UK and Australia(Labour Party vs Conservative Party), France (Socialist Party vs Union for a Popular Movement), Germany (Social Democratic. Party vs Christian Democratic Union) etc What's ur point exactly? 2 Likes |
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by adanny01(m): 7:15pm On Sep 02, 2014 |
maestroferddi: Am I the one not making sense or is it you that have obviously allowed narrow-mindedness, parochial considerations and tunnel vision to preclude you from thinking out of the box? The reason i said i see no sense in all you have said is because inspite of the fact that you think you have a point, there is none to see. Just as you see APC to be desperate for power, i see PDP as desperate to keep it. I had to go back to your opening post, all i saw are personal opinions and questions. Thats why i have not seen a point in all you have said. If you say APC is deaperate, thats just your personal opinion. If you say APC is desperate and go ahead to cite a comment or an action of the party that supports your opinion, only then do you have a point. So far, you have made no point but have given so many personal opinions that didnt make sense, until you make a point by given reasons for your opinion. maestroferddi: I am personally astounded by the developments in this country. The degree of bitterness and intolerance are getting pretty worrisome. After all, ask yourself, has PDP done their best. If yes, has Nigeria improved so much that you think PDP or the government can now relax and demand for praise. If no, in what areas do you think PDP hasnt done well, would you tell them? You will end up criticising the government yourself just like the APC does unless you choose to be sentimental and continue supporting a mediocre non performing government. Face the truth, there is alot to be done, am not satisfied with the current government, APC needs to tell them and push them till they do it well. |
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by Reference(m): 7:20pm On Sep 02, 2014 |
I disagree with you. Opposition, no matter how vocal but non incitive, non physical and non violent is not only legitimate but desirable. I think it is because we have run a one party state for too long. In say fifty years time when both parties will have settled down and tasted power in equal measure, succeeding and failing in equal terms along the way, then I'm sure your view will change. The PDP like I continue to emphasize should begin to prepare for life in opposition, it should begin to learn how to criticise and throw its own brick-bats and tantrums both real and perceived. Its style of 'big man, take it easy politics' cannot go on forever. It has barely been able to regain any state it lost to the APC or even dreamt of unseating any old ACN/CPC > APC stronghold based on 'political capital' it gained as a result of any APC state controlled failures. And this is simply because it has been too naive and lazy to try. Perhaps if it was doing the 'assaulting' the APC will have been doing the defense. But a timid attempt at the Oshiomhole 'Go and Die' gaffe is the best I can remember the PDP mustered in ten years of reasonable opposition. But I also think and hope the PDP will learn quickly when power is eventually lost at the centre. What will become of the party is another matter for it has little ideology or thinks of forming any. The PDP has no real back bone. As an institution years of turbulence has left it weak internally and it may just crumble leaving us with yet another one-party state and then the problem turns full circle. PDP should stop whinning and do what political parties the world over do. Fight to get there, fight to stay there. |
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by honeric01(m): 7:52pm On Sep 02, 2014 |
maestroferddi: So in your warped imagination, the government should allow violence and insecurity fester out of control? LOL, you are very smart.. what is the job of the police men and the civil defence corp? to pick unripe mangoes? What is too formative in our democracy that you are babbling about? how old is democracy in SA? Are we just conducting election in Nigeria? have we not conducted election in Nigeria without the use of the military men? Niger state is close to a volatile area in Nigeria where we have issues with security, but was there anything like insecurity in Ekiti and Osun? What about Anambra? be, quit exposing your folly, it's becoming glaring now! 1 Like |
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by adanny01(m): 7:54pm On Sep 02, 2014 |
Reference: I disagree with you. Opposition, no matter how vocal but non incitive, non physical and non violent is not only legitimate but desirable. I think it is because we have run a one party state for too long. In say fifty years time when both parties will have settled down and tasted power in equal measure, succeeding and failing in equal terms along the way, then I'm sure your view will change. This is an opinion i will support. PDP has been looking at governance like a birthright. They need to lose and become the opposition atleast once so they could sit up and actually be the servants of the people. Next time they will not just distribute rice and N1k for votes but will actually work and compete for it just like they do in advanced democracies around the world. As it is now, PDP has no idea what it will be like as an opposition. |
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by dartsidius7(m): 8:01pm On Sep 02, 2014 |
adanny01: Good one. I believe that if PDP had performed a little bit, it would be hard to criticize them without people raising their eyebrows. I am a bit confused as to what the writer wants. That the Opposition party (that’s controlling only a few states) should oppose the ruling party without criticizing their flawed policies. You want APC to only campaign based on their achievements in the states that they control. You want APC to extend an arm or co-operation to the PDP that keeps playing games and pointing accusing fingers in terms of the boko haram menace. And the OP has still not talked about what good policies that have been criticized by the opposition. Then he talks about desperation of APC to seize power, what about the desperation of PDP to retain it. One of the things that pisses me off the most about the ruling party are the excuses that they give for some of the actions taken in terms of corruption. I want to see how PDP will act when they become the opposition. I bet that according to the OP they will NOT criticize APC, why? Because PDP is a good party and APC is full of Crap. Do you need any other proof of the fact that the OP is sentimentally leaning towards PDP. 1 Like |
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by Teespice(f): 8:11pm On Sep 02, 2014 |
the kind of opposition I would not want to be associated with. APC is no better than PDP. the only reason why this talk is going on is because they are not in power. should they be in power, Nigeria would be comatose and even in a far worse state. they should go round the world and learn what it means to be in an opposition. bunch of recycled and corrupt politicians who are after nothing but their selfish interests. PDP is no better. 2 Likes |
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by darne(m): 8:28pm On Sep 02, 2014 |
LIKE seriously @OP Piece OF sh!,t 1 Like |
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by ayukdaboss(m): 8:50pm On Sep 02, 2014 |
degems:What the hell is DNA Nigeria? Another PDP or WordPress site? The other day it was sincere9gerian with "PointAndKill.com". You guys never fail to humour me |
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by ayukdaboss(m): 9:00pm On Sep 02, 2014 |
maestroferddi: Can you build a compelling case of the points you are trying to make?Your English is really humouring me just like the other clownish Senator who makes me laugh anytime I see him on Live TV. I've forgotten his name. Please carry on with this free amusement. |
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by maestroferddi: 9:07pm On Sep 02, 2014 |
Teespice: the kind of opposition I would not want to be associated with.My sister, "told" them o. The want to kill the messenger shappali... They think we are fools. Dem dey learn... |
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by jackdaniels(m): 9:14pm On Sep 02, 2014 |
No to islamic party.. No to supporters of APC 1 Like |
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by maestroferddi: 9:22pm On Sep 02, 2014 |
Donshegzy007:Leave am. Na today we begin see Mr Goggle-Got-Me-Informed? Ba'ath Party ko Hamas ni. |
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by maestroferddi: 9:26pm On Sep 02, 2014 |
ayukdaboss:Kontinu laffing. Very soon you will have cause to see a headshrinker... 1 Like |
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by ayukdaboss(m): 9:35pm On Sep 02, 2014 |
degems:What the hell is DNA Nigeria? Another PDP or WordPress site? The other day it was sincer9gerian with "PointAndKill.com". You guys never fail to humour me |
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by martinbillings: 12:10am On Sep 03, 2014 |
This is the kind of opposition APC is, At their lecture in Owerri, Chief John Odigie Oyegun APC chairman —"It's a national embarrassment that whenever our President have a pain on his toes, he runs to Germany for medical treatment. Thats what PDP has in store and has promoted and continues to promote. We in the APC would put a stop to it." ORO(Owelle Rochas Okorocha) flew to London for treatment of a non-existent cut while the man who they claimed hit his car was put in Police cell. Rotimi Amaechi flew Senator Magnus Abe to London just for inhaling teargas. This people go carry mouth kill themselves o. 3 Likes |
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by deeobserver209(m): 12:18am On Sep 03, 2014 |
APC as an Opposition Party was the best thing that ever happened to Nigeria. It's a party every living soul in the country welcome as a very Good Development. Ever since APC came in to the polity things have never remained the same again. For the first time ever since 1993, a two party system has come to be established. APC kept PDP firmly on their toes. Its worthy of note that APC gave PDP leadership sleepless nights. They brought in new forms of politics, some of which led to PDP losing Five State Governors. What a sweet victory it was. Indeed the symbol of PDP the Umbrella appears to be permanently broken. Behold the era of one party domination came to an end. Indeed the true winds of democracy was blowing across Nigeria. But some how out of the blues, the Umbrella seem not to have broken completely. PDP, like a wounded lion picked up the pieces. A new form of leadership was ushered in. Because of what befell the Umbrella since the birth of APC, PDP began to strategies and redraw a road map for better politicking. It made PDP put its house in order. It helped PDP deepen its internal democracy, there by providing a level playing field for its members. It has helped PDP grow its members more than ever before. Thanks to APC, PDP is more focused. Thanks to APC, PDP is very much aware of the need to perform or be sacked in the polls. And above all, APC has made PDP the most Attractive Political Party in Nigeria. Big thanks to the PDP leadership, who are made up of young energetic men and women usually referred to as The Game Changers and Masters in Organization. They brought in new life to PDP, in other words, they brought in Fresh Air! Because of the Democratic changes made within the party, the PDP has become the party everyone wants to belong. This is evident with the likes of Nuhu Ribadu, FFK, Buba Marwa, Gov Mimico and many others who recently defect to PDP. It's obvious, they saw the light. It's obvious they saw the change. It's obvious they wanted to be free. PDP is now reformed party. PDP today is much better and much more National than any Party in Nigeria. PDP's chances of winning the 2015 elections has just been made easy thanks to the birth of APC. Long live PDP! Long live GEJ!! Long live the Federal Republic of Nigeria!!! 4 Likes |
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by BrosPeter: 12:46am On Sep 03, 2014 |
ayukdaboss: Bros just talk say u no understand grammar. |
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by ayukdaboss(m): 1:21am On Sep 03, 2014 |
BrosPeter:Okay Mr. Man I guess with the above quote you should be adept in deciphering grammar with even the highest of complexities. Your advanced level of grammatical know-how will unequivocally be welcomed at Secondary Schools. If that thing wey I just type no funny you e funny me o as I dey type am. 2 Likes |
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by ayukdaboss(m): 1:34am On Sep 03, 2014 |
deeobserver209: [s] APC as an Opposition Party was the best thing that ever happened to Nigeria. It's a party every living soul in the country welcome as a very Good Development.…Wetin this one dey yarn? |
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by jakiedudu(m): 1:50am On Sep 03, 2014 |
APC na useless party. GEJ till Hell Rufai beats Mike Tyson 4 Likes |
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by anonimi: 5:06am On Sep 03, 2014 |
Reference: What exactly is the ideology of APC 2 Likes |
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by BrosPeter: 5:28am On Sep 03, 2014 |
ayukdaboss: You try sha. |
Re: What Manner Of An Opposition Party Is APC? by maestroferddi: 6:34am On Sep 03, 2014 |
ayukdaboss:You see your life? |
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