bushdoc9919:

Look,,,,here is the scoop.

Residency training in Nigeria goes like this.....you write an exam called the primary (of which there are two flavours....West African, which carries more power....and National/Nigerian...which is just as hard).After you pass....you then get a place to do the residency (Which involves job interviews/exams). Then once you get the job...you work as a junior resident for two-three years....after which you write an exam that if you pass (it is a very tough exam) you become a senior resident. Then another three years....after which you write the exam that if you pass means you become a consultant. ALSO....you do a research project during the time you are a resident....and THAT project is part of your final exam for consultant.

So, sacking all the residents....means you have to replace like for like.And a common medical officer(Like me!)cannot just slip into the shoes of a senior resident....or even junior resident. To put it simply.....it is a disaster waiting to happen. And poor Mr Consultant would have a hard time of it....doing most of the jobs that senior resident is supposed to do.And students...the young medical students...would have a hard time of it.

It isn't that simple. You cannot replace experience.

bushdoc9919:

They head to private hospitals....and some of these hospitals do have residents!(One of OBJ's initiatives)

But even then....the private hospitals cannot do everything.....so a lot of people do suffer in silence.

prettyprettywow: i thought your leaders said we have 47,000 Drs? how come they are now 30,000?

Seeeeeeee: PRIVATE HOSPITAL DEY

phantom:
....and who bloody cares abut your sympathy. i ve said it many times that the doctors do not give a rats a*** about your sympathy.swallow it!

most of you here ranting have doctors you all call on phone when ill. these same doctors you are crucifying will still answer those phone calls and even tell you what drugs to take FREE OF CHARGE! please name another group of professionals that will give you free consultations.
is it the lawyers
is it the engineers
is it lecturers


na wa o!

MT: I have been following this development with keen interest. As much as I am not a Jonathan person, I am fully supportive of his actions. Its not like we have Medical doctors in Nigeria since the strike action commenced. The doctors intentionally drag themselves in the mud and now the FG will cut them to sizes. This will end badly for the doctors, mark it.

phantom: MDCAN (association of consultants)has reacted. i guess the FG will look for locum consultants too...

Dreambeat: Fashola did not win anything. Don't let me go into the details of what happened. We have to fight this battle now once and for all for the good of the populace and the progress of the health sector in this country. A lot of people are just so uninformed about what is going on in our government hospitals, those that are, choose to take side against doctors out of sentiment. Things can not just continue the way they are right now. The hospitals are in a big mess. I know how many times I have had to walk and sometimes run to the theatre to BEG for disposable gloves to work with. Lots of things are just not right in our training centres especially.

bushdoc9919:

Oh no....you wouldn't want that.

Privatizing the health sector will make doctors like me very happy....because we are going to get paid hefty salaries.

It is ordinary Nigerians like you that will suffer in the form of increased fees.....and increased health care costs. Especially for chronic illnesses like stroke, diabetes,even serious injury that requires long hospital stay.

(And even with a Health insurance scheme.....you will soon find out that your insurer won't pay for certain diseases. As one family friend found out with NHIS when his daughter came down with a serious illness.).

eaglechild:
Some have died
Some have retired
Some (a very significant number) are out if the country.

odeotito: Considering the fact that residency was put in place by an Act of the national assembly it can't be abolished by executive fiat. Methinks the executive order is null and void cause it s ultra vires its powers! Get a lawyer fast!

Malawian:
i dont know which school gave you an MBBS. privatizing the hospitals will not make you "doctors" owners of the hospital. there will be a hospital management board to run the show. you will receive your salary and only your salary if your attaendance is up to date. stop living in dreamland cos the party is over.

bushdoc9919:

No ......you don't get it.

Privatization means that you pay higher for all hospital services...while we docs....and by extension nurses, pharmacists, etc...get paid higher by your hospital management board....because you get the best out of your staff with high salaries(As someone who has worked for the Govt and for a private hospital...I know). And of course...we would come to work on time.

Privatization hurts you more than the hospital staff.

Malawian:
you are the one that does not get it. you doctors will not be the one charging patients for medical care, you just stay at your duty post and when the month is up, you go with your long throat and collect your salary.
if you throw tartums and not genuflect when receiving your sarary, you will see the door.

bushdoc9919:

Look,,,,here is the scoop.

Residency training in Nigeria goes like this.....you write an exam called the primary (of which there are two flavours....West African, which carries more power....and National/Nigerian...which is just as hard).After you pass....you then get a place to do the residency (Which involves job interviews/exams). Then once you get the job...you work as a junior resident for two-three years....after which you write an exam that if you pass (it is a very tough exam) you become a senior resident. Then another three years....after which you write the exam that if you pass means you become a consultant. ALSO....you do a research project during the time you are a resident....and THAT project is part of your final exam for consultant.

So, sacking all the residents....means you have to replace like for like.And a common medical officer(Like me!)cannot just slip into the shoes of a senior resident....or even junior resident. To put it simply.....it is a disaster waiting to happen. And poor Mr Consultant would have a hard time of it....doing most of the jobs that senior resident is supposed to do.And students...the young medical students...would have a hard time of it.

It isn't that simple. You cannot replace experience.

prettyprettywow: call Drs on phone, and they diagnose your ailment and prescribe via phone without physical examination and lab investigations?. Lol. I weep for una

laplace12:
There are more than 16000 unemployed doctors waiting to take that job

bushdoc9919:

OK.....privatization means no more government subsidies for the hosptials.

Hospital management board raises fees to meet costs.

That means that the average Nigerian pays more for health care.

And it means that we medics get paid higher salaries....because we are now working for a private company....not the government.(and private firms pay higher....keeps the staff loyal).

Health care becomes the preserve of the rich....and the poor(most Nigerians) won't be able to afford it.

Capisce?

Malawian:
i dont know which school gave you an MBBS. privatizing the hospitals will not make you "doctors" owners of the hospital. there will be a hospital management board to run the show. you will receive your salary and only your salary if your attendance is up to date. stop living in dreamland cos the party is over.

Malawian:

you are trying to escape your shaddow. you will be paid on scale according to how much the hospital makes per month, you salary can either increase or decrease or you can go set up your own practice. [size=18pt] party is over [/size] .

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Yes the hospital management will run the hospitals but doctors will be paid higher. Each surgery a doctor does he will get a certain percentage 15 or 20%. As a resident , I do up to 20 CS a month and get nothing. Now were on strike I made money thrice my salary through doing surgery and patients pay well. I hope u have money to pay when it comes to your turn. Privatization all the way. May good lord have mercy for poor masses.

anytexy: Doctors are not suppose to go on strike no matter what. Because they are under essential duty just like Army, police, fire fighters etc. These professions their duty is to protect life also. Let it be documented that doctor should never go on strike I beg.

ozodigboo:
Are you sure you are a doctor ?
Because if yes, am sorry, you don't talk like one.
Why do you choose to address yourself as '' COMMON MEDICAL OFFICER '' ?
You are belittling yourself. . . . its not everybody that wants to go into residency. . . . some of ur colleagues are hitting it big as epidemiologists [ FHI, GHAIN etc ]
And there are some medical officers who have passed primaries, but are yet to get placements for residency.
Plz don't mess urself up in this forum.

Malawian:

you are trying to escape your shaddow. you will be paid on scale according to how much the hospital makes per month, you salary can either increase or decrease or you can go set up your own practice. party is over[size=18pt][/size].