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Re: Interesting Facts About The Bible!!! » » » by diarra94(m): 12:20pm On Aug 20, 2014 |
Gold45:most mammals that existed with the dinosaurs were little rats and other primitive rodents. their relatively small size enabled them to hide and easily remain unnoticeable by the large carnivores. it was until dinosaurs were destroyed by the meteor that these smaller rodents had the whole world to themselves and evolved into the more complex mammals we have today. the dinosaurs will have led early man to extinction due to many reasons which include: 1. being primitive meant we lacked any sophisticated form of weaponry, and shelter and therefore an encounter with a dangerous animal such as a dinosaur will most likely have a fatal ending. 2. we aren't fast enough to outrun these animals 3. we were very few in number and probably hadn't established ourselves on all continents yet. 4. we would have existed in a hunter gatherer society which meant serious competition for food. this does not mean that humans didn't stand a chance but if we were alive when the meteor hit the earth, it would have also wiped us out. so to sum things up, the meteor that exterminated the dinosaurs actually worked in our favour. what do you mean by acting mature? you've never been in an argument before? |
Re: Interesting Facts About The Bible!!! » » » by Nobody: 12:47pm On Aug 20, 2014 |
diarra94: and that's why people who read the bible remain in thecworst possible conditions on earth.which people? What do yuh mean? |
Re: Interesting Facts About The Bible!!! » » » by diarra94(m): 1:03pm On Aug 20, 2014 |
Cutekemitola: which people? What do yuh mean?all people who believe in the funny kid stories in the bible such as god destroying the tower of babel, Adam and Eve, how Noah successfully gathered all the animals and insects in the world into his ark, I don't know if he also carried bacteria , algae and other microorganisms. please don't deceive yourself,the same white man that brainwashed you with the bible is now throwing that idea out the window. |
Re: Interesting Facts About The Bible!!! » » » by Nobody: 1:12pm On Aug 20, 2014 |
diarra94: all people who believe in the funny kid stories in the bible such as god destroying the tower of babel, Adam and Eve, how Noah successfully gathered all the animals and insects in the world into his ark, I don't know if he also carried bacteria , algae and other microorganisms. please don't deceive yourself,the same white man that brainwashed you with the bible is now throwing that idea out the window.they r not kid stories....The work oF God cannot be understood ordinarily...but by Faith,that's why the Bible says:Faith is the sunstance of things Hoped for and the evidence of things not seen...u don't have to see it to believe whether it happened or not.....when you go from ordinary to spiritual,you will really understand the works of God.... |
Re: Interesting Facts About The Bible!!! » » » by diarra94(m): 1:20pm On Aug 20, 2014 |
Cutekemitola: they r not kid stories....The work oF God cannot be understood ordinarily...but by Faith,that's why the Bible says:Faith is the sunstance of things Hoped for and the evidence of things not seen...u don't have to see it to believe whether it happened or not.....when you go from ordinary to spiritual,you will really understand the works of God....you see every proof for the bible can only be found in the bible. lemme tell you something, if god really created the earth, he wouldn't require the bible to prove anything as the world itself would be a proof. I want to ask you this: do you have faith? |
Re: Interesting Facts About The Bible!!! » » » by Nobody: 1:37pm On Aug 20, 2014 |
diarra94:yeah ofcourse I do have faith o...and a perfect reality of the Bible is Israel..and Jerusalem,you just have to read the story of Israel? |
Re: Interesting Facts About The Bible!!! » » » by diarra94(m): 1:46pm On Aug 20, 2014 |
Cutekemitola: yeah ofcourse I do have faith o...and a perfect reality of the Bible is Israel..and Jerusalem,you just have to read the story of Israel?according to Mathew 21:21 " Jesus replied, "Truly I tell you, if you have faith and do not doubt, not only can you do what was done to the fig tree, but also you can say to this mountain, 'Go, throw yourself into the sea,' and it will be done.". in essence, according to Jesus you can do supernatural and humanly impossible actions if you have faith. if you can't do any of these, you lack faith. and without faith you will burn in hell. now I want to ask you, can you do what Jesus just mentioned above? If you can't I am sorry to tell you that god has probably enlisted your name as a fuel source for hell. |
Re: Interesting Facts About The Bible!!! » » » by Nobody: 1:51pm On Aug 20, 2014 |
diarra94: according to Mathew 21:21really? I can't just go about saying things just because I have faith....if the Holyspirit leads me,I will definitely do it...its not about exercising the faith in a negative way |
Re: Interesting Facts About The Bible!!! » » » by diarra94(m): 2:24pm On Aug 20, 2014 |
Cutekemitola: really? I can't just go about saying things just because I have faith....if the Holyspirit leads me,I will definitely do it...its not about exercising the faith in a negative waydon't deceive yourself, Jesus never gave any condition for this action. with so much problems in Nigeria the least you can do is destroy boko haram or the host of problems plaguing Nigeria. how can you do something negative in the name of god? is god blind or stupid? |
Re: Interesting Facts About The Bible!!! » » » by Gold45(f): 2:52pm On Aug 20, 2014 |
diarra94: interesting. so evolution moved from fish to rats. How did dinosaurs become so complex while the rest of the world was still at the rat level |
Re: Interesting Facts About The Bible!!! » » » by diarra94(m): 3:31pm On Aug 20, 2014 |
Gold45: can you point exactly to where I insinuated that? Gold45:dinosaurs were not more complex than other animals but were much more larger. reasons for which herbivorous dinosaurs such as the diplodocus were humongous include: 1. during the Jurassic period there were abundant trees and plants and therefore a surplus source of food meant larger sizes 2. dinosaurs were cold blooded animals and therefore larger sizes had no effect on their body temperature and chemistry. 3. the fact that they laid eggs eliminated the stress of birthing large offsprings. 4. to have the edge in predation. now, you should know evolution is driven by change, and animals like sharks, crocs and many other snakes have not evolved for up to 400 million years simply because they do not need to evolve as they have the available body parts and adaptions to exist in their environment. mammals, being warm blooded animals, could not evolve into much larger creatures and therefore became smaller to hide from the rampant predation. FYI mammals were not the only animals during the Jurassic period as they were reptiles, birds(mostly dinosaurs), and many creatures in the ocean. why do you keep asking me questions that you can easily find answers to on Google? |
Re: Interesting Facts About The Bible!!! » » » by cloudstar: 7:04pm On Aug 20, 2014 |
diarra94 this is from wikipedia " Human papillomavirus (HPV) infection appears to be involved in You and I can go on wikipedia right now and change that statement. This is taken from [url]cancer.org[/url]: Just a few types of HPV are the main causes of cervical cancer, which is the second most common cancer among women worldwide. Cervical cancer has become much rarer in the United States because the Pap test has been widely available for many years. This test can show pre-cancerous changes in cells of the cervix that might be caused by HPV infection. These changed cells can then be treated or removed, if needed. Treatment can keep cancer from developing. Doctors may now also test for HPV, which can tell them if a woman might be at higher risk for cervical cancer. and yet prominent scientists and astronomers like Galileo were arrested for proposing the earth orbited the sun which was against the Bible's teaching of the earth being the centre of the universe. Bros, who arrested him? The Catholics or is it in the Bible to arrest free thinkers? You are here again confusing the pope and Catholics who ruled most of Europe and wielded massive political power. you ignored my question " I asked you of adaptation and you mentioned the internet, is adaptation a human creation? like I said racial differences have been the root of most wars in history, if the bible is really a form of guidance for humans don't you thinkthe bible would have addressed the issue of race and adaptation, the Bible's failure in doing that discredits its importance." I didn't ignore your question. This is another case of arguing from silence. I have repeated several times that silence or non-mention of an argument in the Bible doesn't mean the Bible is irrelevant on the subject. It was at that time that I gave examples of the Internet. The Bible talked about the golden rule - "Treat others as you would expect to be treated". The Bible doesn't care about the color of your skin - there is only one race that is relevant in the Bible and that is human-race. The Bible claim the earth was round centuries before scientist agreed it was. The norm was that the earth was flat. then why don't you give me any biblical proof that suggests humans existed for over 250 million years. Again, you are arguing from silence. The Bible wasn't the one that claimed man never existed before the dinosaurs - it's you and evolution that claimed it. The Bible describes creatures as big as dinosaurs thousands of years before they were discovered but you will ignore as usual just as you weren't there to see god create the earth You have just conceded that evolution is based on faith Bros. I told you that no one can prove God created the universe at least not historically. In the same way, claiming that we came from fish without proper historical and objective trace is based on faith as well. While I am basing my faith on an intelligent design; you are basing your faith on random chance. this is a quote from bigcatrescue.org I also suggested that you can do artificial insemination, if you don't want to sleep with the female ape. Either which way if we are of the same DNA and gene; you guys should be able to conceive. The reason tigers and lions can't physically mate is because structurally it will be hard hence the reason they are artificially produced. To you it is a freak, to others it is evidence that they are of the same gene and type. I asked you about the Horse and Donkey and you never responded. There are several different breed of dogs that mate and give off-string but you ignored those as well. bottom line is that its unnatural. FYI this is possible because they are of the same family, try that with a fish and a lion. I wouldn't mate with an ape not because it is impossible but unnatural just as a gorilla wouldn't naturally mate with a chimpanzee. You keep proving my point - how can a man come from a fish or tadpole if we are not of the same family? How did we originate from fish we can can't mate with a fish and produce off-spring? You keep poking holes in your evolution theory. All the same - it is is possible and since we are 98% similar to apes; please artificially produce an off-spring with an ape to put this matter to and end Of course, that is a reasoble step, creationism has no place in an educational institution. evolution has proven to be successful in biology and essentially all spheres of life. if you can use your creation ideologies to explain any feasible phenomenon, please the stage is yours!! Coming from someone who claims a fish and a lion can't produce yet we all came from a fish - that is how the mind of an evolutionist works what I was going at is the fact that testing drugs on animals to determine their effects effects on humans destroys the biblical notions that humans are unique. It's not an issue of been unique - it is avoiding the legal battles and high insurance bail-outs of failed drug tests. As a result, they go with the alternate and cheap route - testing on animals. If drug A kills an ape, it's better and it killing a human - it's not good publicity for the company. please can you upload the images of the cave paintings you are talking about? I will give you an authoritative reference accordingly some of this creatures are extinct but their fossils were perfectly preserved. if you find that to complex for your understanding, below is an image depicting the different stages of a frog's development. I am interested in every single step i.e. when a fish changed at stage one to stage 10 when it became a human. If you can provide authoritative references to each fossil that you have personally confirm; we can then look into it together. If you are talking about the fossils that are stuffed with cotton at the museums, I urge you not to waste your time The AD/BC notation was first proposed by the monk Dionysius Does that change the fact that BC - before Christ and AD - after Christ death is used to measure history everywhere today? you seem to be getting pretty aggressive and insulting but I don't mind Not aggressive, passionate . No harm intended by the way. Also, the picture about a tapole shows how it develops into a frog, it never turns into a snake or fish. Your fish to human explanation can't be proven Bros and you have conceded that it is based on faith |
Re: Interesting Facts About The Bible!!! » » » by cloudstar: 7:48pm On Aug 20, 2014 |
diarra94 haha, then, you just made yourself clearer, I can't put my faith in a belief that cannot be proven. only evolution can explain the diversity of animals on the islands of Galapagos. go figure. Oh you just did - you believe we came from fish. I have asked you to prove it and you showed me an image . Can you show us on the Island of Galapagos if any of the animals changed from one kind to another different kind i.e. from bird to alligators? these are quotes from wikipedia made by archeologist studying ancient manuscripts: Using wikipedia as your source of defense is at best laughable. I can go online and change the entire page. I asked you a simple question. If the early manuscripts have been altered as you suggest; can you tell us which ones, when they were altered and by whom. It is a simple question enough I asked for any miracles or signs the bible talks about in reality or which you have observed yourself. Jesus performed many miracles. Personally I have seem a crippled woman walk. I don't know if that is enough evidence of you I gave you an open field. Your call, your choice determines my response I asked how do you explain the savages and isolated tribes of Africa and south America who have no concept of life if we came from Adam and eve? Have you tried asking them? |
Re: Interesting Facts About The Bible!!! » » » by dstnd: 10:52pm On Aug 20, 2014 |
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Re: Interesting Facts About The Bible!!! » » » by Nobody: 10:54pm On Aug 20, 2014 |
dstnd: .....blushing ..awa u my dear I'm doing great; thanks for asking.. You?. |
Re: Interesting Facts About The Bible!!! » » » by dstnd: 10:55pm On Aug 20, 2014 |
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Re: Interesting Facts About The Bible!!! » » » by Nobody: 10:59pm On Aug 20, 2014 |
dstnd: ...am great just returned from a journeyMy nosy self is on alert Most be tired right?....Hmm!!..How was your journey??;So where did you travel to?. |
Re: Interesting Facts About The Bible!!! » » » by tola9ja: 11:02pm On Aug 20, 2014 |
malvisguy212: tola9ja. Read this.YOU ARE NOT THE ONE THAT WRITE THIS YOU COPY IT AND I HAVE REPLY IT SEVERAL TIMES SO IF U WANT TO LEARN LET TAKE IT ONE BY ONE AM VERY SURE IF WE FINISH YOU WILL FOLLOW WHAT JESUS PRACTICE (ISLAM) WITH ALOT OF BIBLICAL AND QURANIC EVIDENCE |
Re: Interesting Facts About The Bible!!! » » » by dstnd: 11:03pm On Aug 20, 2014 |
glitest:NA Ibadan for a dance competition jare |
Re: Interesting Facts About The Bible!!! » » » by Nobody: 11:06pm On Aug 20, 2014 |
dstnd: NA Ibadan for a dance competition jare My heart just melted.... So you went to my hometown?. |
Re: Interesting Facts About The Bible!!! » » » by dstnd: 11:07pm On Aug 20, 2014 |
glitest:yes ke...wia in Ibadan are u from. |
Re: Interesting Facts About The Bible!!! » » » by tola9ja: 11:07pm On Aug 20, 2014 |
malvisguy212: give me one verse where God contradict himself.SO YOU DONT SEE ANY ONE YOU CAN CHOOSE MOREOVER ALL THESE ARE NOT PRESENT IN THE BIBLE? |
Re: Interesting Facts About The Bible!!! » » » by Nobody: 11:09pm On Aug 20, 2014 |
dstnd: yes ke...wia in Ibadan are u from.V Can't spell it ohh |
Re: Interesting Facts About The Bible!!! » » » by dstnd: 11:11pm On Aug 20, 2014 |
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Re: Interesting Facts About The Bible!!! » » » by Nobody: 11:13pm On Aug 20, 2014 |
dstnd: ....I understand don't worry....ve u eaten Yes I have....Its after 11 @ night, so you ought to have taken dinner by now. |
Re: Interesting Facts About The Bible!!! » » » by dstnd: 1:58am On Aug 21, 2014 |
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Re: Interesting Facts About The Bible!!! » » » by Nobody: 2:23am On Aug 21, 2014 |
dstnd: ....yes ke.....can u pls send me ur number On Nairaland me? |
Re: Interesting Facts About The Bible!!! » » » by dstnd: 2:28am On Aug 21, 2014 |
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Re: Interesting Facts About The Bible!!! » » » by diarra94(m): 2:49am On Aug 21, 2014 |
cloudstar: its now pretty clear you know nothing about evolution. I tried coming down to your level but its of no use to someone already brainwashed by the bible. why would they change from birds to reptiles? please go and study evolution because at this point, i understand that you have no idea of evolution but yet dismissed it. you can check out the island of Galapagos on Google and if you can explain to me how that happen, please do. I can't keep uploading images and quoting texts which you just dismiss without proof. cloudstar:yes I knew you'll bring that up, but this is the source from which Wikipedia got the text. irr.org , if you are unreasonable enough to ask me such a question, I think its only fair for me to be also unreasonable... please can you find all the ancient manuscripts and compare its accuracy with the Bible and tell me how many times the bible was translated before it was finally translated into English. cloudstar:personally, I have also seen a crippled woman walk with artificial legs so I don't know what you mean?? cloudstar:okay then a logical proof. cloudstar: they tried to kill me, so I came to you to explain that to me with your bible. regarding your previous argument this is a text from a christian website supporting that the earth is not more than 6,000 years old. " The genealogy in Luke 3:23-38 goes from Jesus to Adam, a period of 4000 years showing the total age of the earth to be just over 6000 years. Young earth creationists readily accept the fact that the earth is a sphere; God “sitteth upon the circle of the earth” (Isaiah 40.22). But they will not believe the sun orbits the earth daily: “when the sun riseth” (2 Samuel 23:4). “the earth abideth forever.” (Eccl 1:4) The earth is stationary in the center of the universe. They believe one circle, but not the other." geocentricbible.com 1 Like |
Re: Interesting Facts About The Bible!!! » » » by cloudstar: 5:36am On Aug 21, 2014 |
diarra94 its now pretty clear you know nothing about evolution. I tried coming down to your level but its of no use to someone already brainwashed by the bible. why would they change from birds to reptiles? please go and study evolution because at this point, i understand that you have no idea of evolution but yet dismissed it. you can check out the island of Galapagos on Google and if you can explain to me how that happen, please do. I can't keep uploading images and quoting texts which you just dismiss without proof. I haven't used the Bible to prove anything Bros, you are the one bringing it in and comparing it with evolution. I have made my stance clear - I believe in intelligent design. The evolution you have tried to market here doesn't exist outside the confines of this thread. You have proven that your evolution is based on faith which is what I wanted you to admit all along. Whether you believe in God, the Bible or taking an ape as a wife is your cup of tea. Your problem is that you have given over your common sense to the "experts" of evolution - people who will rather die than admit in creationism or an intelligent design. Images and texts aren't proof if you are claiming we originated from fish and single cell organism. Science is observing, test, reproducing such tests and confirming if they are true. All you have done is talked about theory that can't you can only prove with images - you should do better than that. yes I knew you'll bring that up, but this is the source from which Wikipedia got the text. irr.org , if you are unreasonable enough to ask me such a question, I think its only fair for me to be also unreasonable... please can you find all the ancient manuscripts and compare its accuracy with the Bible and tell me how many times the bible was translated before it was finally translated into English. I wasn't the one that claimed the Bible was edited and updated and had many errors in them - you did. I posed the challenge for you to prove it by confirming which of the earliest manuscripts where edited or updated yet you are here shying away from the challenge. It shows you know little about the subject personally, I have also seen a crippled woman walk with artificial legs so I don't know what you mean?? The God of the Bible doesn't use artificial legs when He heals people. Apparently, you have confined God to your limited exposure of what a miracle actually is okay then a logical proof. let us stick to the confines of logic, here goes: 1. Logically, it is impossible for you to know everything and since you don't know everything, you can't claim that there is no God 2. To rebuff the statement made in step 1; you will have to admit you know absolutely everything. Please share your thoughts on the points raised above and we will proceed they tried to kill me, so I came to you to explain that to me with your bible regarding your previous argument Really, did you tell the police? What did you ask them, did you try to sleep with one of their females? this is a text from a christian website supporting that the earth is not more than 6,000 years old. The Bible doesn’t say explicitly anywhere, "The earth is 6,000 years old". There are proponents of a young earth and proponents on an old earth theory. It boils down to a theological decision as it can't be proven historically. What you quoted above are proponents of a young earth. |
Re: Interesting Facts About The Bible!!! » » » by diarra94(m): 7:55am On Aug 21, 2014 |
cloudstar: diarra94just as you have put your faith in the bible which was written by men like you and i. hello, we are on a forum, if not text and images what do you want me to use? a 3d printer? cloudstar: then are you insinuating that the bible was never edited or translated and it's content is accurate. if so you should be able to give substantial evidences. cloudstar:I never shied away from your request, I quoted a text from an archeology site but you dismissed it. cloudstar:then why have you been unable to highlight any form of miracle you have observed excluding those in the bible cloudstar:but then from a logical stance, there isnt proof for god either. if god really created the earth I don't think the bible is necessary. from the same logical reasoning, you can't eliminate evolution either. cloudstar:I told them that Jesus is their lord and personal saviour even though he never knew of the existence of subsaharan Africa. but they rather got mad and told me the story of how their ancestors evolved even showing me the skeletons of their ancestors clearly depicting the change in skull size and backbone structure. when I insisted that god created humans from clay and air without water or blood they took their weapons and chased me out. cloudstar: then based on your understanding of the bible, how old is the earth? if you also don't mind shelling the old earth theory. 1 Like |
Re: Interesting Facts About The Bible!!! » » » by cloudstar: 11:11am On Aug 21, 2014 |
diarra94 just as you have put your faith in the bible which was written by men like you and i. hello, we are on a forum, if not text and images what do you want me to use? a 3d printer? In summary, evolution is not proven science but blind faith. That is all I wanted you to admit and you have done you several times. So, whenever you tell yourself that evolution is true and more plausible than creationism, remember that both rely on faith. I rest my case . You can't prove science with text and images. For example, I can prove gravity by taking a stone and dropping it; if it falls to the ground, I can repeat the experiment, document it, observe it and even have others confirm it - THAT IS SCIENCE. The same way, if I put concentrated sodium on H2O, I will get a combustive reaction; I can repeat such action and everytime get the same result. Unfortunately, the "science" of evolution doesn't fall into that category. Yet, people like you want us to accept it as true even when it's not even a theory but it is based on blind faith. then are you insinuating that the bible was never edited or translated and it's content is accurate. if so you should be able to give substantial evidences. You claimed it was. You inferred that the present Bible is the work of men because it is full of errors and have been edited and the entire theme corrupt. I challenged you to prove it by showing what was changed, when it was changed and by whom. I even asked you to refer to the earliest manuscript in question. You have refused to because you have little understanding on the subject. I never shied away from your request, I quoted a text from an archeology site but you dismissed it. You quoted from wikipedia. Wikipedia is not an authoritative reference when it comes to New Testament history. To prove a manuscript written in the 2nd century is corrupted; you will have to provide multiple attestation from several sources that can confirm that the manuscript in question was corrupt. then why have you been unable to highlight any form of miracle you have observed excluding those in the bible It appears you have reading comprehension. I told you that I have seen a crippled woman walk. You made fun of it and said you have seen the same with artificial limbs. I am referring to a lady that I saw over the course of a week that walked in clutches everyday and was healed by prayers. She got up and walked. but then from a logical stance, there isnt proof for god either. if god really created the earth I don't think the bible is necessary. from the same logical reasoning, you can't eliminate evolution either. You refused to answer my question. Are you claiming that you are all knowing? Your answer will logically decide if there is a possibility that God exists or not. I told them that Jesus is their lord and personal saviour even though he never knew of the existence of subsaharan Africa. but they rather got mad and told me the story of how their ancestors evolved even showing me the skeletons of their ancestors clearly depicting the change in skull size and backbone structure. when I insisted that god created humans from clay and air without water or blood they took their weapons and chased me out. Do you have any proof of this encounter i.e. a video or audio recording? then based on your understanding of the bible, how old is the earth? if you also don't mind shelling the old earth theory From my understanding, I would say several hundreds million years |
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