sammieguze: Medical doctors, came out en masse to protest the recent sacking of 16,000 of their members by President Goodluck Jonathan.
The protest was held at Lagos University Teaching hospital, (LUTH), Idi Araba and headed by Dr. Tope Ojo, Chairman of Nigerian Medical Association.
The medical practitioners say as opposed to the widespread view that they are fighting for increment in remuneration, they are actually agitating for better structures and equipment in hospitals across the country.

http://ynaija.com/site/nigerian-doctors-hit-street-protest-mass-sack-photos/

I think its unfair to treat our doctors like this and neither also any citizen of this country. However, our doctors need to admit one fact of life that there is no absolute monopoly in life. They need to be advised that no job can guarantee financial independence. They should look forward to business development mentality to achieve their financial independence goal and just take their profession as a calling and service to humanity

Have a blessed day too.

sammieguze: And what happens to freedom of speech? Afterall, am not insulting anybody. Am i?

Too early to be involved in arguments sef.

Av a blessed day bro.

Guy this is not a joking matter pls let be reasonable!

PointB: Before we get swayed by the doctors tantrum, let's not lose sight of their 24 key demand.

Summary of the doctors demands:

1. Create more offices (and more money) for us
2. Don't send anyone to monitor the money
3. Skip level 12, we can't wait to collect more money
4. Refer to Nos 2
5. Pay us 22 years areas of some money, and then increase our wage
6. Expand the health bill so we can make more money
7. Appoint one of us surgeon general so that he can protect us and fight for our money
8. Adjust our level so that we can make more money
9. Increase our call duty allowance by 90%
10. Adjust upward our specialist allowance
11. Increase our hazard allowance from 5k/mnth to 100k/mnth
12. Release circular showing our allowances, all of us must be included
13. When we need to import In-Vitro Diagnostics, IVDs equipment, we don't want knowledgeable institution to check/license it.
14. Tell us our retirement age (obviously they don't want to retire, more money to be made in active duty)
15. We want more funding for our residency training
16. For peace to reign pay our colleagues in Owerri what you agreed
17. We must continue to enjoy the goodies in IPPIS platform
18. Attempt to prevent our collective bargaining (for more money) will be resisted
19. Lab scientist should stop intimidating us (we are the big boys, we make more money)
20. Stop short paying us for any reason (we want all our money in full)
21. Do for us what they do for doctors abroad
22. Set aside more money to furnish our offices (hospitals)
23. Medical director must be a medical doctor (It can not be a pharmacist, dentist, and never a lab scientist). We must chop alone
24. Stop violating our 2009 agreement. Pay us our money!!


There you have it. The two dozen demands of our doctor in plain language. The demands causing our brethren to die at home, and in hospital while doctors stay away. These are the demands making our people to resort to bathing and drinking salt water to death, as they run scare of Ebola Virus Disease, while our doctors prefer to stay at home and wait for their money.

Our doctors have sworn to protect their moneys, while our collective health is the ransom! If gold can rust, pray, what will happen to Iron?

That's from consultants in lagos and it's same all over, Onyebuchi and GEJ aren't winning this one

sammieguze: My opinion... Their joblessness over the time is really getting at them.


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Joblessness,,..? Thought they have been busy in their private clinics where they divert patients, even when they were not on strike. Smh

Sincere9gerian: This is what you get in a society that encourages EVIL. When ASUU was on strike for 6 months and were collecting salaries and moving from one TV station to another defending that evil strike, most Nigerians cheered them on. I was one of the very few voices that opposed the ASUU strike.

Well, since ASUU succeeded with the connivance of the larger society, you should expect other labour unions to also follow suit.

NMA has always cited the ASUU example to justify it's current strike.

Every society should learn to live with evil or monster it creates.

Labour unionism has been elevated to a very lucrative business and an alternative govt in Nigeria.

Strike is not the only approach for pressing for demands by these labour unions, especially in a democracy, but they have all adopted strikes because of laziness.

NMA is not a registered union.. they don't belong to Nigeria Labour Union and their strike is illegal...

Not everybody has the resources bro

echarlz:
Joblessness,,..? Thought they have been busy in their private clinics where they divert patients, even when they were not on strike. Smh

And that's from oga ministers state, shame on him, home defeat

suwailad: why are they attacking chukwu when the main culprit is GEJ? these guys are damn clueless

Do u think GEJ will wake up one day and sack doctors without chukwu suggesting that's the best line of action. Oh I forgot, u are not in the profession and can't know what's happening so I suggest u keep ur opinions to yasef.

[code][/code]Y are they protesting (blackmailing)? They hate d work they were employed to do. Now, d hammer came down n they cry as victims whereas they were the protagonist that set d tune. Heartless, greedy blood suckers. These guys are worse than boko haram. Time is come, nigeria via gej must take a stand. Enough. I wish n pray gej will have enof courage to c this true. When hunger bite their ass they shall wake to reality.

Mumu doctors..FG on point, sack all of dem.Self centered, heartless n selfish Nigeria doctors. They should quit since dey are tired of working.

donJ2: U

Mmmm.... u sound soo insecure,

Soo threatened by a Lab tech, wonder wat u wud do wen u encounter a lab Scientist...

Back 2 ur point, hav u tot abt being d one involved in d accident ...or r u invincible?

I ain't insecure but just stating the fact! Can't even remember the last time i saw a doctor. I treat myself when i fall sick. Mind you, i use the word 'technician' purposely to refer to both the lab technologists and the so called 'scientists' because i know that based on the way they are trained here, there's nothing scientific about them. We know those who are scientists!...talking about the accident ish, let's just say you're the one involved!

[quote author=dalhat14]That's from consultants in lagos and it's same all over, Onyebuchi and GEJ aren't winning this


Una better go look 4 job . GEJ on point.

datribune:



This is exactly d problem. I take it dat u ar probably a nigerian doctor as d instinctive arrogance in ur post is true to character. U've been on strike for weeks. Who has been taken care of ordinary nigerians?. What is d overall percentage of sick nigerians dat come to ur clinics even on d occasions when u ar not on one of ur strikes?. Foi, d local bone-setters do a great job. Btw there ar probably more poorly trained, second rate quack doctors who will falsely claim dat they can cure these sicknesses than there ar unregistered chemists. Funny dat u write such a post about d patriotic job of saving lives being done by nigerian doctors. Cut d crap. Nigerians living in 9ja know d antics of ur greedy selves. How many of d private clinics where u carry out ur private practice without complaining ar well equipped?. How come dat western doctors who were trained under d best of conditions wit d most sophisticated equipments leave d comfort of Europe to come & work in rural Africa under dis same conditions dat you poorly trained nigerian doctors feel is beneath u? Many of u ar in d wrong profession. Medicine is a calling not business. Maybe u guys should use d sack as an opportunity to look 4 a business.
BTW I know u don't wish all those things, but I reject dem all d same.

Here is the problem you have.

You are angry with all doctors because they are on strike...and because you know you cannot do without them.So,you lash out and ask them to return to their work.

The thing is,most of you people do not think about the conditions that your average health care worker works under. We lack a lot of facilities, we have bad light and water supply ,and we work long hours. And there are too few of us....right now there are 40,000 doctors for 160million people.(That is why most Nigerians never see a doc....there are too few of us.).

Now, the reason why there are few doctors is due to the fact that 1.)Because of poor funding for the university system....we do not have enough lecturers...and enough places to train lots of new student doctors.2).We have such bad and limited facilities that many of us have gone out of the country because we are tired of seeing patients die in our presence because we lacked X or could not make the diagnosis on time because of Y....or we don't have drug Z.

Solving those problems are part of the reason why the residents are on strike. Now...a little info....the NARD...that is the resident doctors union....have been on strike for longer than NMA. And a big part of the reason why they are on strike is for improved training facilities, and improved funding for residency....because a big part ofour residency is the clinical research they do....and both require money.

But you don't see that...all you see arrogant doctors. And you see the fact that you lost a friend in the hospital....and you think it was our negligence that did it.True...some of us are negligent....and some are arrogant. But most of the time...patients suffer in our hospita lbecause....thanks to lackoffunding....we do not have the means to help them.(And it makes me feel sad....when we have lost the stroke case because we did not have a CT scan to find out on time that she had a hemorrhagic stroke).

In my opinion,NMA and JOHESU ,as I have said several times on here....should join hands and fight for better funding for the health care sector...because what docs go through....nurses, pharmacists et al go through. Right now...we are in an egocentric fight over titles. But that does not mean we are also not fighting for better facilities....especially through the medium of NARD.

I hope you see the problem. Or maybe you don't want to...because solving it means either increasing funding for health care OR raising fees for services....so that government can pay for new facilities. It also means doing the same for university education. Regardless of what you think....we docs(including me, who has worked in rural care for most of my working life) want to serve you better. But we can't continue to do that under policies that generate acrimony between members of the health care team....as well as awful facilities.

But of course you do not have to agree with me.

Still....our health care system is in crisis.And it isn't the staff's fault.

chinex276:
le kwa ajo nmow ha... Okwu nmow pia gi ezigbo utali, anuofia

Locality in display

bushdoc9919:

Here is the problem you have.

You are angry with all doctors because they are on strike...and because you know you cannot do without them.So,you lash out and ask them to return to their work.

The thing is,most of you people do not think about the conditions that your average health care worker works under. We lack a lot of facilities, we have bad light and water supply ,and we work long hours. And there are too few of us....right now there are 40,000 doctors for 160million people.(That is why most Nigerians never see a doc....there are too few of us.).

Now, the reason why there are few doctors is due to the fact that 1.)Because of poor funding for the university system....we do not have enough lecturers...and enough places to train lots of new student doctors.2).We have such bad and limited facilities that many of us have gone out of the country because we are tired of seeing patients die in our presence because we lacked X or could not make the diagnosis on time because of Y....or we don't have drug Z.

Solving those problems are part of the reason why the residents are on strike. Now...a little info....the NARD...that is the resident doctors union....have been on strike for longer than NMA. And a big part of the reason why they are on strike is for improved training facilities, and improved funding for residency....because a big part ofour residency is the clinical research they do....and both require money.

But you don't see that...all you see arrogant doctors. And you see the fact that you lost a friend in the hospital....and you think it was our negligence that did it.True...some of us are negligent....and some are arrogant. But most of the time...patients suffer in our hospita lbecause....thanks to lackoffunding....we do not have the means to help them.(And it makes me feel sad....when we have lost the stroke case because we did not have a CT scan to find out on time that she had a hemorrhagic stroke).

In my opinion,NMA and JOHESU ,as I have said several times on here....should join hands and fight for better funding for the health care sector...because what docs go through....nurses, pharmacists et al go through. Right now...we are in an egocentric fight over titles. But that does not mean we are also not fighting for better facilities....especially through the medium of NARD.

I hope you see the problem. Or maybe you don't want to...because solving it means either increasing funding for health care OR raising fees for services....so that government can pay for new facilities. It also means doing the same for university education. Regardless of what you think....we docs(including me, who has worked in rural care for most of my working life) want to serve you better. But we can't continue to do that under policies that generate acrimony between members of the health care team....as well as awful facilities.

But of course you do not have to agree with me.

Still....our health care system is in crisis.And it isn't the staff's fault.

You have a noble heart but what you sited here differs from the 24 itemized demands made by NMA,maybe because you are working in the private sector.

[quote author=Fitz22][/quote]
ok nau, ignorance they say is a disease

bushdoc9919:

Here is the problem you have.

You are angry with all doctors because they are on strike...and because you know you cannot do without them.So,you lash out and ask them to return to their work.

The thing is,most of you people do not think about the conditions that your average health care worker works under. We lack a lot of facilities, we have bad light and water supply ,and we work long hours. And there are too few of us....right now there are 40,000 doctors for 160million people.(That is why most Nigerians never see a doc....there are too few of us.).

Now, the reason why there are few doctors is due to the fact that 1.)Because of poor funding for the university system....we do not have enough lecturers...and enough places to train lots of new student doctors.2).We have such bad and limited facilities that many of us have gone out of the country because we are tired of seeing patients die in our presence because we lacked X or could not make the diagnosis on time because of Y....or we don't have drug Z.

Solving those problems are part of the reason why the residents are on strike. Now...a little info....the NARD...that is the resident doctors union....have been on strike for longer than NMA. And a big part of the reason why they are on strike is for improved training facilities, and improved funding for residency....because a big part ofour residency is the clinical research they do....and both require money.

But you don't see that...all you see arrogant doctors. And you see the fact that you lost a friend in the hospital....and you think it was our negligence that did it.True...some of us are negligent....and some are arrogant. But most of the time...patients suffer in our hospita lbecause....thanks to lackoffunding....we do not have the means to help them.(And it makes me feel sad....when we have lost the stroke case because we did not have a CT scan to find out on time that she had a hemorrhagic stroke).

In my opinion,NMA and JOHESU ,as I have said several times on here....should join hands and fight for better funding for the health care sector...because what docs go through....nurses, pharmacists et al go through. Right now...we are in an egocentric fight over titles. But that does not mean we are also not fighting for better facilities....especially through the medium of NARD.

I hope you see the problem. Or maybe you don't want to...because solving it means either increasing funding for health care OR raising fees for services....so that government can pay for new facilities. It also means doing the same for university education. Regardless of what you think....we docs(including me, who has worked in rural care for most of my working life) want to serve you better. But we can't continue to do that under policies that generate acrimony between members of the health care team....as well as awful facilities.

But of course you do not have to agree with me.

Still....our health care system is in crisis.And it isn't the staff's fault.

The brother,sister and members of the family of the child,lady and man who die as a result of your strike will never forgive you. Your once upon-a-time reputable profession has gone to the dogs. Nobody gives a damn about you. You have eaten more than you can chew by your greed,selfishness,ego and deceitfulness. Btw,after 7 years of University training,you still check your books,journals,phones,phone a friend before you can diagnose and prescribe a common typhoid. May God give the Nigerian populace a viable alternative to you evil NMA and club.

Morotov1: You have a noble heart but what you sited here differs from the 24 itemized demands made by NMA,maybe because you are working in the private sector.

The Resident Doctors are on strike under the auspices of NARD....and their strike started a month before NMA's strike.

A large part of NARD'S demands include improved training facilities.....as well as improved funding for residency training....which would enable, among other things, increase in spaces for more residents.

Plus,NMA's current strike is in counter to JOHESU....but the NMA too has been on strike for better facilities before.

So happy with the sack, see what greedy dey cause ooooo. They don't want other health workers to see the light of the day. A child that said his mother will not sleep, him-self too will not sleep.

maryjames9: The brother,sister and members of the family of the child,lady and man who die as a result of your strike will never forgive you. Your once upon-a-time reputable profession has gone to the dogs. Nobody gives a damn about you. You have eaten more than you can chew by your greed,selfishness,ego and deceitfulness. Btw,after 7 years of University training,you still check your books,journals,phones,phone a friend before you can diagnose and prescribe a common typhoid. May God give the Nigerian populace a viable alternative to you evil NMA and club.

It has gone to the dogs as you say because of poor and bad hospitals.That is a big reason why the Resident Doctors,under NARD are on strike(their strike is to be different from the NMA strike...it started a month earlier...and improved facilities are part of the issues on the table).

You can't expect good performance under bad conditions,you know.

And it is a myth that I or most of my colleagues and seniors check our books before I diagnose typhoid.I work without the need for consulting my books....and of course...I do some studying in my off hours.....we have to keep abreast of the latest developments in our field.(I am not a resident BTW....I am a staff doctor in a private hospital who has worked in rural areas for most of my working life.).

bushdoc9919:

The Resident Doctors are on strike under the auspices of NARD....and their strike started a month before NMA's strike.

A large part of NARD'S demands include improved training facilities.....as well as improved funding for residency training....which would enable, among other things, increase in spaces for more residents.

Plus,NMA's current strike is in counter to JOHESU....but the NMA too has been on strike for better facilities before.

Which item number is listed on the 24 items for better facilities, you know they joined up their demands to make up the 24 demands without any references to better facilities. NMA is a collection of all doctors Union in Nigeria, NARD is part of NMA. So their demands are all and one.

If government answer dem fg has failed us let them keep their strike till 2099

mployer: Run-away soldiers.

They should go and fight ebola and stop all these nonsense.

They are fighting for the public... how can they fight ebola when there is no fund... please be objective. You dont pay them well, you dont give them good working conditions, you dont give them a reason to want to serve.. rather you pay stupid politicians like mad... Hmmn what a nation

dalhat14:
ok nau, ignorance they say is a disease

You obviously have d dx.

barcanista: D Doctors acted foolishly!!!!

They remain fired!!

I'm with Jonathan on this one

Dnt mind those clowns called doctors they n their families ll suffer more than nigerians. They ll ve to write apptitute test n beg for those jobs again wen d vacancies r advertised. U want 100k per month hazard allowance, hw much does a soldier in sambisa forest get on hazard per month selfish foolish docs.
GEJ pls make sure u deal with this doctors strike permenantly some professions shld neva b allowed to go on strike n there shld b legal framework to support dt. Nigerian docs r more passionate abt their pockets than saving lives therefore I advise them nw dt they r fired to turn to traders n join ariaria market to make all d money they want

ogawisdom:

Dnt mind those clowns called doctors they n their families ll suffer more than nigerians. They ll ve to write apptitute test n beg for those jobs again wen d vacancies r advertised. U want 100k per month hazard fee, hw much does a soldier in sambisa forest get on hazard per month selfish foolish docs.

Don't mind the greedy buncg trying to blackmail the people and government of Nigeria. They better start submitting CVs because it is no longer business as usual.

redsun: Instead of sacking them,he should have looked into the employement law that allows employees to go on long strike with pay.But most fundamentally,he should addressed the issue of poorly managed and financed health sector in nigeria.Having a functional health sysytem benefits alll,not just the doctors.In an health organized system,a virus like ebola wouldn't have entered nigeria so easily and porously like it did.

Doctors mustblern to make do with what dey have wen it comes to equipments. Evryone opens his or her mouth loud to blame d FG, Wen I knw vry well dt evn if FG provide d kind equipments dey ll rough handle it!!! The FG is tryin, How abt you and I. BY d way is their body registered under Labour mrkt? And dnt even blame d spread of an epidemic disease on d FG too... Infact stop been myopic.... Fullstop

redsun: Instead of sacking them,he should have looked into the employement law that allows employees to go on long strike with pay.But most fundamentally,he should addressed the issue of poorly managed and financed health sector in nigeria.Having a functional health sysytem benefits alll,not just the doctors.In an health organized system,a virus like ebola wouldn't have entered nigeria so easily and porously like it did.

Nice talk.

But so too are other sectors, education, sport,
infrastructure, electricity, manufacturing.

I am not a friend of GEJ but these doctors have overdone it.

They do not abide by their oath. Money, money, money.

They take salary and still run their hospitals.
What else do they want?

God help you in Abuja if you are ill.

They billed the wife of a brother #250k upfront for an
operation I heard they normally charge 50 to 70k .

I once said here that I would give my seat to a medic but no more.

They have lost my respect.

Shylock all.

KingAdeOluomo1: God bless u my brother

And may he bless you too brother

tunde1200: Guy this is not a joking matter pls let be reasonable!

Here, please read and reach your own conclusion:

https://m.premiumtimesng.com/news/166930-these-are-the-24-reasons-nigerian-doctors-are-on-strike.html