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Re: The Time Is Short. Roman Catholic Members Have No Excuse. by Ukutsgp(m): 10:59am On Sep 11, 2014 |
Spuggie:true christians are those that does what d bible teaches. not what man's wisdom teaches. there are churches were d truth is spoken. by d way cant we sow toward d work of God? or are u against giving? |
Re: The Time Is Short. Roman Catholic Members Have No Excuse. by Ukutsgp(m): 11:06am On Sep 11, 2014 |
hifaif: Pentecostalism is a big fraud.so d catholic leading people astray and out of the will of God is better. isn't it? leading people to hell since 1900 |
Re: The Time Is Short. Roman Catholic Members Have No Excuse. by Ukutsgp(m): 11:16am On Sep 11, 2014 |
Although there are many false religions out there, like Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Sikhism etc. Most Christians recognize these as being false. But there are billions of professing Christians who have been deceived by the Roman Catholic Church and it's false teachings and doctrines, and as the Bible points to the Catholic Church as being antichrist, then it is her doctrines we want to concentrate on and expose. We do this with love, in a bid to call God's people out of this false church ... Revelation 18:4 ...'Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.' False Doctrine 1 The Papal church (Roman Catholic Church) claim to have power over the Bible and authority to change it when they please . Take a look at the following quotes from the Catholic church: "The Pope is of great authority and power that he can modify, explain, or interpret even divine laws... The Pope can modify divine law, since his power is not of man, but of God, and he acts as vicegerent of God upon earth." (Lucius Ferraris, Prompta Ribliotheca, "Papa", art. 2, translated) "The authority of the Church could therefore not be bound to the authority of the Scriptures, because the church had changed the Sabbath into Sunday, not by command of Christ, but by it's own authority." (Canon and Tradition. page 263) "The doctrines of the Catholic Church are entirely independent of Holy Scripture." (Familiar Explanation of Catholic Doctrine. Rev. M Muller, page 151) There isn't a single line of Scripture that says God handed power over to a "church" or any human to be able to change His Word. So what does God have to say about His own Word? Man must not live according to the Word of the pope, but according to the word of who? ... Matthew 4:4 ...'But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.' ... There we have Jesus' own Words, confirming that we live by the Word of God alone. Hebrews 4:12 ...'For the word of God is quick, |
Re: The Time Is Short. Roman Catholic Members Have No Excuse. by Ukutsgp(m): 11:20am On Sep 11, 2014 |
Hebrews 4:12 ...'For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.' 1 Peter 1:25 ...'But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.' |
Re: The Time Is Short. Roman Catholic Members Have No Excuse. by Ukutsgp(m): 11:25am On Sep 11, 2014 |
False Doctrine 2 The Roman Catholic Church claim that Mary was sinless . "The church has become ever more aware that Mary full of grace through God was redeemed from the moment of her conception. This is what the dogma of the Immaculate Conception confesses ..... Mary was.... from the first moment of her conception ...... preserved immune from all stain of original sin." (Catechism of the Catholic Church, 491) And yet the Word of God disagrees with this ... Luke 1:46-47 ...'And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord, and my spirit hath rejoiced in God MY SAVIOUR .' ... If Mary was sinless, then she would not have any need for a Saviour, as she expresses in this verse. Romans 3:23 ...'For ALL have sinned, and come short of the glory of God.' . False Doctrine 3 The Roman Catholic Church claim that Mary is in Heaven and is co-redeemer with Jesus , as the following quotes suggest: "That we may rightly say she (Mary) redeemed the human race together with Christ." (Benedict XV, Inter Sodalicia, 1918) "In fact, by being assumed into Heaven she (Mary) has not laid aside the office of salvation, but by the manifold intercession she continues to obtain for us the grace of eternal salvation." (John Paul II, Dives in Misericordia, 1980, quoting Lumen Gentium) Again the Bible shows this to be false ... 1 Timothy 2:5 ...'For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.' ... This verse cannot be any clearer as to who is our mediator. THERE IS ONLY ONE, AND THAT IS CHRIST JESUS! . False Doctrine 4 The Roman Catholic Church claim that salvation is only possible through the Catholic Church itself. " There is no salvation outside the church (Roman Catholic Church)." (Pope John Paul II, Radio Message for Francisan Vigil at St Peter's and Assisi, October 3, 1981) "Salvation is to be found nowhere but in the church (Roman Catholic Church), the strong and effective instrument of salvation is none other than the Roman Pontificate." (Pope Leo XIII, Allocution for the 25th Anniversary of his election, February 20, 1903. (Papal Teachings: The Church, Benedictine Monks of Solesmes, St Paul Editions, Boston, 1962, par. 653) What does the Word of God say about this? ... Acts 4:10-12 ...'Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.' |
Re: The Time Is Short. Roman Catholic Members Have No Excuse. by Ukutsgp(m): 11:30am On Sep 11, 2014 |
False Doctrine 5 The Roman Catholic Church teach their members to pray the 'rosary' and other repetitive prayers . Take a look at the following quote about Roman Catholic prayer: "The word Rosary means 'Crown of Roses'. Our Lady has revealed to several people that each time they say a Hail Mary they are giving her a beautiful rose and that each complete Rosary makes her a crown of roses .... In every apparition, the heavenly Mother has invited us to say the Rosary." (A Catholic Website) The Hail Mary : "Hail Mary, full of grace; the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen" The above hail mary is repeated over and over by Catholics. But what does Jesus say about these repetitive prayers? ... Matthew 6:7 ...'But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.' ... Vain repetitive prayers are vain and useless. The above is just a small selection of teachings and doctrines from the Roman Catholic Church, and as we can see from the Word of God, they are false doctrines. The Roman Catholic Church believe that we should bow down to their authority and worship the Pope and Mary alongside Jesus. But as we have seen, the Word of God says otherwise ... Matthew 4:10 ...'Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.' ... We have no need of any human or any organization to save us, for we are saved by faith in Jesus ALONE, through a loving relationship with Him. Let us reject the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church and base our faith on the Word of God |
Re: The Time Is Short. Roman Catholic Members Have No Excuse. by Spuggie: 11:35am On Sep 11, 2014 |
Ukutsgp: true christians are those that does what d bible teaches. not what man's wisdom teaches. there are churches were d truth is spoken. by d way cant we sow toward d work of God? or are u against giving? apparently, we don't agree on the definition of giving....coercing people to give their 10percent, donating to the pastors while the pastors hold annual awards to recognise the highest donors.....does not define giving for me.....it should be out of freewill and such is rewarded by God and not by a pastor at an awards night.....oooh, these pastors build mansions, buy jets, build universities that members cannot afford. suffice it to say such universities was built from tithes and donations of those poor members. I asked u earlier to work out ur salvation and leave catholics alone and u refused......it seems u hv to leave dat fraud and join catholics |
Re: The Time Is Short. Roman Catholic Members Have No Excuse. by Nobody: 11:51am On Sep 11, 2014 |
Ukutsgp: so d catholic leading people astray and out of the will of God is better. isn't it? leading people to hell since 1900 Leading people astray? How? They make images, you make images too, of your pastors and their wives or mistresses. They read the Bible, you read too. The only difference is that their parish priests do not own jets and most of them work for their daily bread either as headmasters, principals or teachers. Another difference is that even their pope does not own a jet and he travels just as much as the GOs or even more. He also does not select the places to go. Certain popes have visited Muslim countries. Note: The present pope has just one car and he has been using it since the 80s. 4 Likes |
Re: The Time Is Short. Roman Catholic Members Have No Excuse. by Ukutsgp(m): 12:00pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
Spuggie:nobody was compelled to give his or her 10%. they willingly gave it. it is not everyone that pay tithe. do u forbid good things? should pastors be suffering before? and how do u know dat churches dnt help their members? in short, our church just visit the orphanage last week. stop spreading lies. by the way, are there not poor members in rcc? |
Re: The Time Is Short. Roman Catholic Members Have No Excuse. by Ukutsgp(m): 12:07pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
hifaif:so there are no calender or pictures of ur family in ur house? do u bow to them? pls my pastor does nt have a jet and he travels to any place. |
Re: The Time Is Short. Roman Catholic Members Have No Excuse. by Nobody: 12:41pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
Ukutsgp: so there are no calender or pictures of ur family in ur house? do u bow to them? Having your family picture in your house is different from having your oga's picture hanging on the wall in your home. Motives are different. Why would you have your pastor's pix on the walls and doors of your home? Your home? Why do those stickers and posters bear the image of your pastors? Are their faces the identity of your church? Explain to me how your pastor's pix hanging in your home is as normal as your family pix hanging on the wall in your home. 2 Likes |
Re: The Time Is Short. Roman Catholic Members Have No Excuse. by Ukutsgp(m): 1:20pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
hifaif:does it matter whose picture was there? so long as i did nt bow and pray to it. does the calender in ur house have pictures in it? |
Re: The Time Is Short. Roman Catholic Members Have No Excuse. by Ukutsgp(m): 1:25pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
Roman Catholics who read the Bible will soon discover that many Catholic teachings and practices are specifically forbidden by Jesus Christ Himself. Note carefully the following warnings given by the Lord Jesus Christ to the religious leaders of His day concerning vain worship, vain tradition and vain repetitions. All of these are particularly applicable to Roman Catholicism today. Vain Worship – In Matthew 15:8-9, Jesus said, "This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. But in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men." All worship is indeed vain when it is based upon the commandments of men rather than the Word of God. Vain Tradition – In Matthew 15:6b, Jesus said, "Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition." Valid tradition is based upon Scripture and confirms it. Vain tradition is based upon man's teachings and violates it. In Roman Catholicism, tradition is consistently elevated above the Scripture. This results in vain worship (no matter how sincere) and makes the commandment of God of no effect—a very serious matter. Vain Repetitions – In Matthew 6:7, Jesus said, "But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking." A basic part of Roman Catholic worship is the frequent repetition of The Rosary. Its origin is clearly tied to heathen religions such as Hinduism, Islam, and Buddhism. Roman Catholics should listen to the words of Christ rather than use the vain repetitions of the Catholic Church. |
Re: The Time Is Short. Roman Catholic Members Have No Excuse. by Ukutsgp(m): 1:37pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
"Their land also is full of idols; they worship the work of their own hands, that which their own fingers have made." —Isaiah 2:8 "The lofty looks of man shall be humbled, and the haughtiness of men shall be bowed down, and the LORD alone shall be exalted in that day." —Isaiah 2:11 |
Re: The Time Is Short. Roman Catholic Members Have No Excuse. by Nobody: 2:01pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
Ukutsgp: does it matter whose picture was there? so long as i did nt bow and pray to it. does the calender in ur house have pictures in it? You clearly do not understand idol worshipping and it is so irritating to hear idol worshippers like you castigate others. If I have a Jonathan pix in my office, it says nothing order than that Goodluck represents the people of Nigeria but to have a pastor's pix shows that he represents the church (Christ). How is that not making an image of sth supposedly holy. You don't have to bow to it to worship it. Your motive even surpasses your physical action. What does your pastor represent that you should have his image on the church signboard or stickers in your homes. Why couldn't it be just the name of the church? 1 Like |
Re: The Time Is Short. Roman Catholic Members Have No Excuse. by Ukutsgp(m): 3:36pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
hifaif:first of all, who is a pastor in d bible? does it means that when u put a picture of ur friend, brothers or sisters in ur house, u are worshipping it? u must really be so dumb to think so. rcc makes graven images and bow down to them. that is idolatory. Veneration of graven images. how do u people even know how Jesus look like. |
Re: The Time Is Short. Roman Catholic Members Have No Excuse. by amanda2013(f): 5:45pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
Rubbish post. 1 Like |
Re: The Time Is Short. Roman Catholic Members Have No Excuse. by Nobody: 6:14pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
Ukutsgp: first of all, who is a pastor in d bible? does it means that when u put a picture of ur friend, brothers or sisters in ur house, u are worshipping it? u must really be so dumb to think so. rcc makes graven images and bow down to them. that is idolatory. Veneration of graven images. how do u people even know how Jesus look like. You are the dumb one here. If you elevate your car over your God, you 'bow' to your car. The motive is what matters. Why would I make a sticker with my friend's pix and attach it to my door and car? What would be the motive? Probably to promote him if he were a musician or something. But, what is the motive behind putting your pastor's pix on a sticker? Since you are obviously so dumb that you can't understand my simple point, I will help you. You not only venerate your MOG by keeping his pix, but you also deify him by printing his pix on stickers, posters and signboards and putting those items on your door, wall and windscreen. 3 Likes |
Re: The Time Is Short. Roman Catholic Members Have No Excuse. by Ukutsgp(m): 6:27pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
hifaif:so how do u know my motive? my motive is to promote what God is doing through him. simple. but i dnt pray nor bow to it. |
Re: The Time Is Short. Roman Catholic Members Have No Excuse. by Ukutsgp(m): 6:34pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
u people worship images period. dnt deceive urself. repent of ur idols now. |
Re: The Time Is Short. Roman Catholic Members Have No Excuse. by Nobody: 8:04pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
Ukutsgp: so how do u know my motive? my motive is to promote what God is doing through him. simple. but i dnt pray nor bow to it. Is he the only one worth promoting? What about the ushers, the choristers, etc. Aren't you, including the pastor,the body of Christ complementing one another? Why are you promoting one part of the body over the rest if you aren't deifying it? We don't need to drag this any further. 1 Like |
Re: The Time Is Short. Roman Catholic Members Have No Excuse. by brocab: 9:31pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
You know' it was the Roman Catholic Church that started the money making tithing system, also changed the Sabbath day into a Sunday, since the 1900's. And most of all they believe the pope is the Father. Another man hits the dust. Ukutsgp: so d catholic leading people astray and out of the will of God is better. isn't it? leading people to hell since 1900 |
Re: The Time Is Short. Roman Catholic Members Have No Excuse. by Spuggie: 9:37pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
@ OP, why not start reforming ur pentecostalism, I would have thought charity should start from home....u people endorse masturbation and pastor worshipping, pastors sell false hope to the poor, sick and desperate while at the same time exploiting them of their meagre resources, the rich are not spared, they too are ripped off. please, u have enough problems in ur church to occupy you with.....that is if u truly care about the salvation of others. leave catholics alone |
Re: The Time Is Short. Roman Catholic Members Have No Excuse. by Ukutsgp(m): 9:48pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
hifaif:pls stop acting like a child and speaking rubbish. stop littering ur church with images. bowing down to d work of ur hand. that is nt christianity. |
Re: The Time Is Short. Roman Catholic Members Have No Excuse. by Ukutsgp(m): 9:56pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
Spuggie: @ OP, why not start reforming ur pentecostalism, I would have thought charity should start from home....u people endorse masturbation and pastor worshipping, pastors sell false hope to the poor, sick and desperate while at the same time exploiting them of their meagre resources, the rich are not spared, they too are ripped off.i worship God were d truth was preached. stop discouraging people from giving toward d work of God. we dnt endorse self-service in my church and we dnt exploit people. we are nt like ur idolatrous church. rcc cannot save anybody. |
Re: The Time Is Short. Roman Catholic Members Have No Excuse. by Ukutsgp(m): 9:59pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
Ukutsgp:take note. the catholic follow d traditions of men. the heathen traditions |
Re: The Time Is Short. Roman Catholic Members Have No Excuse. by Ukutsgp(m): 10:09pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
the rosary is also of pagan origin. |
Re: The Time Is Short. Roman Catholic Members Have No Excuse. by brocab: 10:10pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
Not willingly' told to give their 10%, qwisting words around to suit a tithers needs. Not reading the bible but taken words out. And as many churches we have today use Malachi 3-10 or Hebrews 7, against the believers to recieve a percentage from each and every person that sit in church. You will be cursed, robbing God if you don't tithe, Jesus being the high priest lived on the streets, ripped off by the tithers not paying tithes to him. Wasn;t Jesus worthy to recieve tithes? And yet our priest{pastors} in today's churches are buying big houses, fancy cars and traveling. Whats wrong with this picture?Jesus performing miracles, healing all kinds of sickness, the blind now see, walked on water, and died for his people. We don't see that in our churches today? The truth will set you free. Ukutsgp: nobody was compelled to give his or her 10%. they willingly gave it. it is not everyone that pay tithe. do u forbid good things? should pastors be suffering before? and how do u know dat churches dnt help their members? in short, our church just visit the orphanage last week. stop spreading lies. by the way, are there not poor members in rcc? |
Re: The Time Is Short. Roman Catholic Members Have No Excuse. by Spuggie: 10:22pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
Ukutsgp: i worship God were d truth was preached. stop discouraging people from giving toward d work of God. we dnt endorse self-service in my church and we dnt exploit people. we are nt like ur idolatrous church. rcc cannot save anybody. I don't think u read my post.....I said pentecostalism I am not interested in ur church but i am confident if we put it under the microscope we will see it is not what you claim it is. @giving to God....do u mean where pastors are getting richer buying jets and in some cases owning 4 jets why some people in that same church can't even have 1 meal in a day? Offerings are used to build universities, unfortunately, same members who made the offerings can't afford the university the help built and don't get any proceeds from profits made running the university. You would have thought equality will be in the pentecostal church but you will be wrong. what is this thing with pastor Chris and self servicing? Is he not a pentecostal? OP, please, face ur pentecostal, many things there require ur attention. Put your house in order first so that people will take you seriously when you talk. |
Re: The Time Is Short. Roman Catholic Members Have No Excuse. by Ukutsgp(m): 10:23pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
Today what we see are images of Jesus and Mary all over the RCC. Today what we see are people kissing and bowing down to these lifeless forms rather than take their cases to Jesus, the greatest physician. |
Re: The Time Is Short. Roman Catholic Members Have No Excuse. by brocab: 10:26pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
The tithe was set up by the Roman Catholic Church at the beginning, and its a shame that other churches around the globe had caught on to that decieving lie. And in these sad day's people are told to give their 10%, while leaders are qwisting words around to suit a tithers needs. Not reading the bible but taken words out. And as many churches we have today use Malachi 3-10 or Hebrews 7, against the believers to recieve a percentage from each and every person that sits in church. You will be cursed, robbing God if you don't tithe, Jesus being the high priest lived on the streets, ripped off by the tithers not paying him tithes. Wasn't Jesus worthy to recieve tithes? And yet our priest{pastors} in today's churches are buying big houses, fancy cars and traveling. Whats wrong with this picture? And why didn't God the Father help him to recieve tithes? Something isn't adding up? James 2-5 Has God not chosen the poor of this world to be rich in faith and heirs of the kingdom. Jesus performing miracles, healing all kinds of sickness, the blind now see, walked on water, and died for his people. We don't see that in our churches today? I'm not against supporting the churches, but using the tithing message and qwisting words around to suit a tithers needs, is not Bible. The truth will set you free. Ukutsgp: nobody was compelled to give his or her 10%. they willingly gave it. it is not everyone that pay tithe. do u forbid good things? should pastors be suffering before? and how do u know dat churches dnt help their members? in short, our church just visit the orphanage last week. stop spreading lies. by the way, are there not poor members in rcc? |
Re: The Time Is Short. Roman Catholic Members Have No Excuse. by Ukutsgp(m): 4:51am On Sep 12, 2014 |
Spuggie:how is that ur business. are pastors not entitled to live a good life? so they should die wretched because they are pastors abi? what's wrong if they build schools and universities? is rcc nt building schools too? pls tell me if there are no poor people in ur church? pls people are even willingly donating to assist the work of God and u ar here blabbing. like i said we dnt endorse self service in my church and we dnt exploit people. if u have u give and if u dnt hv u stay. nobody will be forced to give. but how does this stop d catholic from being a false church? |
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