this topic is pointless because ALL cultures borrow. That's how cultures survive. whether in Africa, or Europe or Asia or anywhere. you borrow and then you put your own twist on it.

we will complain till kindgom come but that's the way it is. we should learn to accept change because change is inevitable. older people will always complain about the younger generation and how the culture has changed. the younger folk will grow up and complain about the next generation. and on and on and on....without realizing that a stagnant culture is on its way to extinction. it is change that keeps a culture alive.

Huh

borrowing culture?!

momentum85: op i wonder oo, what marvels me is that many of these celebration we borrowed have an idolatrious background but we ignored our own culture and term them 'fetish'. Dumping our culture may be what is causing this untimely death in this our generation.

bro u are right but I know people here will oppose ur statement. People commit one atrocity or the other cos they feel God must surely forgive them when they ask for forgiveness unlike good old days were people are afraid to commit crime cos they will be taken to shrine to swear, e.g infidelity, stealing,lies, deceit,et al

red101: this topic is pointless because ALL cultures borrow. That's how cultures survive. whether in Africa, or Europe or Asia or anywhere. you borrow and then you put your own twist on it.

we will complain till kindgom come but that's the way it is. we should learn to accept change because change is inevitable. older people will always complain about the younger generation and how the culture has changed. the younger folk will grow up and complain about the next generation. and on and on and on....without realizing that a stagnant culture is on its way to extinction. it is change that keeps a culture alive.

your statement is null and void, and also, consist of myopic view ma...thanks

this makes no sense whatso ever
either the culture Is yours or it isn't

Yelx

sunnedee:

You are mbaise?? Hmmmm.....

Inability to speak our indigenous languages.

If there wasn't Culture borrowing our girls wud av still being wearing Mother care pants ,tying wrapper to Work(Bank Cashier)etc .........but thanks to culture borrowing because now our girls can wear Catapult ,bra that xposes all their kegs etc
........Hope I've being able to convince you with these few points of mine ........ Thank You

cococandy: Yelx

Okay... Heard some stuff but never mind...
Have a nice day..

pyyxxaro: If there wasn't Culture borrowing our girls wud av still being wearing Mother care pants ,tying wrapper to Work(Bank Cashier)etc .........but thanks to culture borrowing because now our girls can wear Catapult ,bra that xposes all their kegs etc
........Hope I've being able to convince you with these few points of mine ........ Thank You

Yes... You convinced us... Lol....
Guy... You are cray...

Ok. You too

sunnedee:

Okay... Heard some stuff but never mind...
Have a nice day..

red101: this topic is pointless because ALL cultures borrow. That's how cultures survive. whether in Africa, or Europe or Asia or anywhere. you borrow and then you put your own twist on it.

we will complain till kindgom come but that's the way it is. we should learn to accept change because change is inevitable. older people will always complain about the younger generation and how the culture has changed. the younger folk will grow up and complain about the next generation. and on and on and on....without realizing that a stagnant culture is on its way to extinction. it is change that keeps a culture alive.

Change is inevitable?
So we should just cross our legs and eat dry meat while floods of change, both the good, bad and the irrational sweep us away?!

cococandy: Yelx

Una people too dey charge

Depends on the family

fr3do:


Una people too dey charge

hensben: your statement is null and void, and also, consist of myopic view ma...thanks

look at your profile pic and tell me you're not a hypocrite. A lot of the people on this thread are hypocrites. if you condemn borrowing of culture yet you want a BMW, wear western clothes and want good modern roads.
[img]https://www.nairaland.com/avatars/0iil652eul9oiv8ldcaltboi6kv56pws1067578[/img]

"culture is the full range of learned human behavior patterns. ...Culture is a powerful human tool for survival, but it is a fragile phenomenon. It is constantly changing and easily lost because it exists only in our minds. Our written languages, governments, buildings, and other man-made things are merely the products of culture. They are not culture in themselves. For this reason, archaeologists can not dig up culture directly in their excavations. The broken pots and other artifacts of ancient people that they uncover are only material remains that reflect cultural patterns--they are things that were made and used through cultural knowledge and skills."
http://anthro.palomar.edu/culture/culture_1.htm

cococandy: Not in my area.
Most of our cultural celebrations are still intact.

We even celebrate CHRISTAIN christmas with masquerades.(Funny right?)

U wan try mbaise people?

Our new yam festivals
Kola festivals
Okwukwu rites
Etc etc dem plenty sha

U must like Sia`s chandelier alot

red101:

look at your profile pic and tell me you're not a hypocrite. A lot of the people on this thread are hypocrites. if you condemn borrowing of culture yet you want a BMW, wear western clothes and want good modern roads.
[img]https://www.nairaland.com/avatars/0iil652eul9oiv8ldcaltboi6kv56pws1067578[/img]

you are not still making sense, how does culture(way of life in other word, our nature) concerns using material things, all these things you mentioned are secondary aspect of life, how does dancing atilongun and other dance relate to owning bmw, wearing western clothes. chinese that stick to their culture are they not using what you mentioned above huh, its like you didnt get my message...If white men should disown their culture(way of life) like you are insisting now will you see it to copy from?

hensben: you are not still making sense, how does culture(way of life in other word, our nature) concerns using material things, all these things you mentioned are secondary aspect of life, how does dancing atilongun and other dance relate to owning bmw, wearing western clothes. chinese that stick to their culture are they not using what you mentioned above huh, its like you didnt get my message.

I don't even know whether to respond to you because you seem completely ignorant of the subject matter.
is a BMW a traditional drum? does it look like you are about to dance to bata drum in the pic or about to drive BMW?
western clothes. who made those clothes? aren't jobs and careers a way of life? do you spend your day weaving traditional clothes and farming or working in the office?


china has one of the most rapidly westernizing culture in the entire world. Why do you think it is developing so fast and becoming more developed? Have you ever been to China to see how rapidly it is changing?
"Over the last two decades, the Peoples Republic of China has been rapidly adopting western technology and culture in everyday life. This can be seen in their wide acceptance of everything from cell phones to American television shows and fast food. McDonald's has already established 560 of their restaurants in China and soon will be adding 100 more. KFC fried chicken franchises have been even more popular. There are 1000 KFC outlets throughout the country with more than 100 in Beijing alone. Taco Bell, A & W, and Pizza Hut are not far behind. In 2003, the Chinese government made the decision to require all children in their country, beginning with the 3rd grade of elementary school, to learn English. This will very likely accelerate westernization. "
http://anthro.palomar.edu/change/change_1.htm

Always on the replay

Dexema:
U must like Sia`s chandelier alot

red101:

I don't even know whether to respond to you because you seem completely ignorant of the subject matter.
is a BMW a traditional drum? does it look like you are about to dance in the pic or about to drive?
western clothes. who made those clothes? aren't jobs and careers a way of life? do you spend your day weaving traditional clothes and farming or working in the office?


china has one of the most rapidly westernizing culture in the entire world. Why do you think it is developing so fast and becoming more developed? Have you ever been to China to see how rapidly it is changing?
"Over the last two decades, the Peoples Republic of China has been rapidly adopting western technology and culture in everyday life. This can be seen in their wide acceptance of everything from cell phones to American television shows and fast food. McDonald's has already established 560 of their restaurants in China and soon will be adding 100 more. KFC fried chicken franchises have been even more popular. There are 1000 KFC outlets throughout the country with more than 100 in Beijing alone. Taco Bell, A & W, and Pizza Hut are not far behind. In 2003, the Chinese government made the decision to require all children in their country, beginning with the 3rd grade of elementary school, to learn English. This will very likely accelerate westernization. "
http://anthro.palomar.edu/change/change_1.htm

you are not still getting it, you are mistaking development of a country to culture.Now, my 2nd post was referring to chinese been developed and industrialize yet they still hold on to their culture(culture is a natural thing that occur centuries ago)..well, have a nice day.

hensben: you are not still getting it, you are referring development of a country to culture..well, have a nice day.

you don't know what the definition of culture is.
you think culture is all about "traditional" dancing.

culture is education, food, music, cars, buildings, language, greetings, government, economy (socialism, capitalism etc), religion (islam, christianity etc), technology, media etc etc. everything related to how human beings live their lives. not just stuff you read in history or see in museums. that is extinct culture.

the reason our culture is changing is because we are developing. the opposite of development is regression isn't it? if our culture didn't change, will will probably all still be living in mud huts in primitive societies.

the chinese govt has made it a law for all chinese children to learn english. if you listen to chinese youth music, you will find that it is very westernized. etc google "c-pop" to see what their music looks like.

most people will copy the culture that is the most developed. and so far, western culture is the most developed. hence why you have a picture of yourself posing by a bmw in western clothes etc. If Asia becomes more successful than the west, we will also start copying asia. development and culture are very related.

remember culture is a way of life. and most people want to live a convenient life so they will always choose a culture that gives them a convenient or better life. ex. learning english to get a good job and better life vs native language that will not get you anywhere.

red101:

you don't know what the definition of culture is.
you think culture is all about "traditional" dancing.

culture is education, food, music, cars, buildings, language, greetings, government, economy (socialism, capitalism etc), religion (islam, christianity etc), technology, media etc etc. everything related to how human beings live their lives. not just stuff you read in history or see in museums. that is extinct culture.

the reason our culture is changing is because we are developing. the opposite of development is regression isn't it? if our culture didn't change, will will probably all still be living in mud huts in primitive societies.

the chinese govt has made it a law for all chinese children to learn english. if you listen to chinese youth music, you will find that it is very westernized. etc google "c-pop" to see what their music looks like.

most people will copy the culture that is the most developed. and so far, western culture is the most developed. hence why you have a picture of yourself posing by a bmw in western clothes etc. If Asia becomes more successful than the west, we will also start copying asia. development and culture are very related.

remember culture is a way of life. and most people want to live a convenient life so they will always choose a culture that gives them a convenient or better life. ex. learning english to get a good job and better life vs native language that will not get you anywhere.

op wasnt talking about all these things you are mentioning now, read his/her post again. you are just diverting culture/tradition to development or advancement.

hensben: you are not still getting it, you are mistaking development of a country to culture.Now, my 2nd post was referring to chinese been developed and industrialize yet they still hold on to their culture(culture is a natural thing that occur centuries ago)..well, have a nice day.

well seems like you have never been to china. Chinese people are not living like centuries ago. China is very modern. it is RAPIDLY westernizing and changing. It is changing faster than Nigeria will ever dream of.
culture isn't static. it is always changing.

red101:

well seems like you have never been to china. Chinese people are not living like centuries ago. China is very modern. it is RAPIDLY westernizing and changing. It is changing faster than Nigeria will ever dream of.
culture isn't static. it is always changing.

this is the face of modern china
[img]http://f4.tv/blog/weather.jpg[/img]

[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d7/LG%EC%A0%84%EC%9E%90,_%EC%BD%9C%EB%A1%AC%EB%B9%84%EC%95%84%EC%84%9C_%ED%95%9C%EB%A5%98_%EC%A0%84%EB%8F%84%EC%82%AC%EB%A1%9C_%EB%82%98%EC%84%B0%EB%8B%A4.jpg[/img]
[img]http://cfile214.uf.daum.net/image/1216BA40509C65833371C5[/img]

who is referring to wearing of open clothes here , read what op is talking about again, op talks about valentine, christmas, et al now all these are natural occurrence which white people hold on to that doesnt stop them from manufacturing cars, clothes, et al.

Even USA is changing. USA and Europe are very secular countries now whereas in the past they were very christian. when Britain colonized Nigeria, they brought christianity. but now, in Britian, majority of people are secular and don't go to church anymore. the churches are just relics and turned into museums. all cultures always go through change.

hensben: who is referring to wearing of open clothes here , read what op is talking about again.

where do you see open clothes? do those women look like they are dancing traditional chinese music or westernized music.
what is your definition of culture? you are the one who mentioned "atilongun" or whatever you called it.
Chinese people aren't living in the past. they are very westernized. very plain and simple.
you clearly don't even know what you are talking about. and can't define what culture means.

atilogun involves traditional dressing, drums and music. does your profile pic represent that kind of culture? no.
don't be a hypocrite. your westernized profile pic says it all.
when you change your profile pic to one where you are dancing atilogun like this then I will listen to you
[img]http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTiCNTYZoBAKKoho1LwF79elbQnQFC0rzLX1KxZ_oaVGXUkAJu1aA[/img]

chai i don waste another mb and ba3 by loading dis page

red101:

where do you see open clothes? do those women look like they are dancing traditional chinese music or western music.
what is your definition of culture? you are the one who mentioned "atilongun" or whatever you called it.
Chinese people aren't living in the past. they are very westernized. very plain and simple.
move forward or go back to primitive past. choose for yourself.

you clearly don't even know what you are talking about. and can't define what culture means.

ok let me give you example, during JESUS time there was nothing like cars, good clothes, et al now people use cars to go to church, since there is car why didnt people abolish christianity, so you see what op is referring to is different from what you are talking about(devlopment/advancement).What i am trying to correct you of is that Development/advancement makes culture easier, it shouldnt abolish it like you want it.

cococandy: Always on the replay

Definitely one of the best songs this year
Love the video too.

red101:

where do you see open clothes? do those women look like they are dancing traditional chinese music or westernized music.
what is your definition of culture? you are the one who mentioned "atilongun" or whatever you called it.
Chinese people aren't living in the past. they are very westernized. very plain and simple.
you clearly don't even know what you are talking about. and can't define what culture means.

atilogun involves traditional dressing, drums and music. does your profile pic represent that kind of culture? no.
don't be a hypocrite. your westernized profile pic says it all.
when you change your profile pic to one where you are dancing atilogun like this then I will listen to you
[img]http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTiCNTYZoBAKKoho1LwF79elbQnQFC0rzLX1KxZ_oaVGXUkAJu1aA[/img]

so you expect me to be wearing atilogun dress everywhere when its not time for it, you ehn! I suppose check you .
atilogun is a cultural dance in africa/nigeria that requires those dressing costume, so you think those guys in the picture you posted wears those costume everywhere they go, there is a season/time for it, na everyday be church service for ur area.

hensben: who is referring to wearing of open clothes here , read what op is talking about again, op talks about valentine, christmas, et al now all these are natural occurrence which white people hold on to that doesnt stop them from manufacturing cars, clothes, et al.

what do you do on valentine's day? you SHOP flowers, candy etc.on christmas, you SHOP, on thanksgiving, you SHOP. someone needs to manufacture those products in order to buy them. "religious" holidays like christmas in western countries are for SHOPPING. they don't represent anything spiritual anymore. Many western people are secular and no longer religious. those holidays have transformed to being focused on consumption. it is a culture of consumption based on capitalism. hence why economic development is related to culture.

stop talking about natural occurence as if chistmas is a natural occurence like earthquake or rain. it is MAN-MADE and it is always changing. christmas 100 yrs ago is VERY different from christmas today. In fact, jesus wasn't born on christmas day over 2000 yrs ago. it used to be a pagan holiday and the romans adapted it to chrstianity hence paganism also influenced the western christian culture. ALL CULTURES BORROW from others.
even the idea of "whites" is a recent development. categorizing people based on color is something that is a result of cultural change as a result of colonization, immigration etc.

educate yourself pls. I am losing my patience here