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Re: 'you're A Cultist' - Former Borno Governor Replies Soyinka by drnoel: 5:50pm On Sep 15, 2014
Titilayodeji13: www.nigerianbulletin.com/threads/youre-a-cultist-former-borno-governor-replies-soyinka.92220/


In response to an article by Nobel
Laureate Wole Soyinka, titled
''Wages of Impunity'', former Borno
state governor has accused the
distinguished Nobel Laureate of
Cultism.
Click here to read Wages of
Impunity
During an interview session with
PUNCH, Sheriff who spoke
through the Commissioner of
Information and Home Affairs
under his administration, Mr.
Inuwa Bwala, said, " As the ‘cultist’
we know him (Soyinka) to be,
being the founder of a
confraternity for which the world
is still waiting for answers from
him, he is the least morally
qualified to speak on the alleged
involvement of any Nigerian in
whatever crime.
"We challenge him to name this
person he says he knows as a
sponsor of Boko Haram in the
Central Bank, if he is as patriotic as
he claims to be. We also challenge
him to prove to Nigerians that he
is not the cultist we have always
known him to be.
“No security agency anywhere or
an individual who claims to have
investigated this matter
independently can dictate to
Nigerians or our security
personnel what to do about this
Boko Haram menace. Therefore,
this needless diversion is
unwelcome.”

hahahahaha this is is too funny. Lets see what soyinka does?
Re: 'you're A Cultist' - Former Borno Governor Replies Soyinka by PointB: 5:51pm On Sep 15, 2014
shymexx:

So, basically in your obtuse mind - an illiterate retort is a wicked retort', no? Just because the word "fraternity" has been bastardised by Nigeriasn and made intertwined with cultism, that doesn't necessarily mean they're the same thing.

Based on my own scholarship, the fraternity Wole Soyinka created has maintained the fraternity status...unlike the cultism in Nigeria which is more or less another form of extremism. Learn to separate the two. I guess it has more to do with the level of education of folks than anything else.

Calling whatever Wole Soyinka started is like saying because Huey Newton started the Black Panthers - and the bloods and crips were also modelled after the panthers when they started out - Huey Newton and Black Panthers are responsible for the gangsterism of the bloods and crips. Does that make any sense whatsoever to you?

We can make similar argument for Sherrif in his sponsorship of Boko Haram:

We all know that Boko Haram is the nickname in the Hausa language for the group officially known in Arabic as "Jama'atu Ahlis Sunna Lidda'awati Wal-Jihad" (the People Committed to the Propagation of the Prophet's Teachings and Jihad). It is has also been suggested severally that "the reason Mohammed Yusuf founded Boko Haram appears to be that he saw an opportunity to exploit public outrage at government corruption." The corruption, greed, and other malaise in governance was responsible for the formation of Jama'atu Ahlis Sunna Lidda'awati Wal-Jihad (boko haram), as a tool to confront these problems and perhaps bring people closer to allah through the doctrine. By every standard, these are lofty ideals, until something went wrong!

What went wrong with the ideal behind the formation of Jama'atu Ahlis Sunna Lidda'awati Wal-Jihad (a Confraternity) sponsored by Sherrif, could not be entirely different from the reason for the metamorphosis of the Pirate Confraternity founded by Wole Soyinka. If we can hold Sheriff accountable for sponsoring Boko Haram, Wole Soyinka should not be measured differently!

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Re: 'you're A Cultist' - Former Borno Governor Replies Soyinka by 2cato: 5:55pm On Sep 15, 2014
yemaldo:
So alimodu sheriff is a saint?
NO!.
But common sense will tell you that no terrorist will mention the name of their sponsor rather they will mention the names of their target or enemies.
Re: 'you're A Cultist' - Former Borno Governor Replies Soyinka by gebest: 5:59pm On Sep 15, 2014
Even b4 Davis revealed Alimodu Sheriff, Nigerians already knows him as 1 of the sponsors, so what is the shout about.
Re: 'you're A Cultist' - Former Borno Governor Replies Soyinka by argon500: 6:09pm On Sep 15, 2014
Odun o fe ke...

chinasaekperem: ok, then run along pervert.
Re: 'you're A Cultist' - Former Borno Governor Replies Soyinka by Donfamous(m): 6:09pm On Sep 15, 2014
oneeast: But why is it that everybody in this country identifies Soyenka as a common dirty cultist..? Is there something you are not telling us.. grincheesy


because u are ignorant
Re: 'you're A Cultist' - Former Borno Governor Replies Soyinka by Nobody: 6:13pm On Sep 15, 2014
BOAR:
The people you are schooling know the difference.

Even if you open their skull to pour the difference, they will still pretend not to know.
However, they are only feigning ignorance simply because of their hatred for the Prof.

These folks wake up, walk around and sleep with hatred.

That's the only distinguished Nigerian alive - who actually won one of the highest honours based on his unique talent. Something no other Nigerian has been able to replicate. A titan most ought to listen to whenever he speaks. However, due to inbred hatred and the fact he neither agrees with the primeval way-of-life of the average Northerner - and folks who still feel slighted because someone from their own group didn't attain the recognition of the award he got - they all want to character assassinate him for absolutely no reason whatsoever.

No one is saying he's infallible, but the critique and unwarranted abuse he gets from these sick fvckers is unacceptable.

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Re: 'you're A Cultist' - Former Borno Governor Replies Soyinka by Nobody: 6:15pm On Sep 15, 2014
PointB:
We can make similar argument for Sherrif in his sponsorship of Boko Haram:

We all know that Boko Haram is the nickname in the Hausa language for the group officially known in Arabic as "Jama'atu Ahlis Sunna Lidda'awati Wal-Jihad" (the People Committed to the Propagation of the Prophet's Teachings and Jihad). It is has also been suggested severally that "the reason Mohammed Yusuf founded Boko Haram appears to be that he saw an opportunity to exploit public outrage at government corruption." The corruption, greed, and other malaise in governance was responsible for the formation of Jama'atu Ahlis Sunna Lidda'awati Wal-Jihad (boko haram), as a tool to confront these problems and perhaps bring people closer to allah through the doctrine. By every standard, these are lofty ideals, until something went wrong!

What went wrong with the ideal behind the formation of Jama'atu Ahlis Sunna Lidda'awati Wal-Jihad (a Confraternity) sponsored by Sherrif, could not be entirely different from the reason for the metamorphosis of the Pirate Confraternity founded by Wole Soyinka. If we can hold Sheriff accountable for sponsoring Boko Haram, Wole Soyinka should not be measured differently!

You can feign ignorance all you want, and postulate whatever hypothesis, to find a link where there's none. However, that doesn't negate the fact that there's absolutely no correlation between the two.

1). Whatever fraternity Wole Soyinka created, started off as a fraternity, and has remained a fraternity - without any record whatsoever of extremism associated with what cultism is about. However, Yusuf started his Boko Haram as a religious cult with extremism and, from the get-go sectarianism has been the objective, albeit it has moved to insurgency now.

2). Also, like someone posited on the first page: the ideals of what Wole Soyinka created were for: against ethnicity, humanistic ideals, and comradeship and chivarly. However, what Yusuf created, even based on its name "Boko Haram" was against everything western - and waging a jihad based on extremism against that. Hence after he died, the doctrine of the group today is based on the Yusufiyya doctrine - which is pure religious extremism.

Learn to respect your heroes while they're alive. They won't live forever! Wole Soyinka is the greatest Nigerian ever - fvck the haters!

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Re: 'you're A Cultist' - Former Borno Governor Replies Soyinka by goodygirl1(f): 6:15pm On Sep 15, 2014
Hmmm....season film...abeggi make I go carry chair siddon**!
Re: 'you're A Cultist' - Former Borno Governor Replies Soyinka by goodslayer: 6:20pm On Sep 15, 2014
shymexx stop engaging pointb-astard.. the useless plonker is the s.i unit for dumbness. his non functional brain would have serve humanity more good, if the mass of fat is fix in the cranium of a mountain goat.

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Re: 'you're A Cultist' - Former Borno Governor Replies Soyinka by lordsilver: 6:22pm On Sep 15, 2014
2cato: Though common sense which is not always common with the mad OL' profesor No terrorist group will ever mention their sponsors or their benefactors
Methink the blood of over 30,000 young nigeria that was been spilled by the introduction of occultism in our uni and poly has been making the mad O' profesor foo.lish and st.upid.

So old age is now a crime in ur village?? Anyway, I pray u never get old in Allah's name
Re: 'you're A Cultist' - Former Borno Governor Replies Soyinka by goodslayer: 6:25pm On Sep 15, 2014
shymexx:

You can feign ignorance all you want, and postulate whatever hypothesis, to find a link where there's none. However, that doesn't negate the fact that there's absolutely no correlation between the two.

1). Whatever fraternity Wole Soyinka created, started off as a fraternity, and has remained a fraternity - without any record whatsoever of extremism associated with what cultism is about. However, Yusuf started his Boko Haram as a religious cult with extremism and, from the get-go sectarianism has been the objective, albeit it has moved to insurgency now.

2). Also, like someone posited on the first page: the ideals of what Wole Soyinka created were for: against ethnicity, humanistic ideals, and comradeship and chivarly. However, what Yusuf created, even based on its name "Boko Haram" was against everything western - and waging a jihad based on extremism against that. Hence after he died, the doctrine of the group today is based on the Yusufiyya doctrine - which is pure religious extremism.

Learn to respect your heroes while they're alive. They won't live forever! Wole Soyinka is the greatest Nigerian ever - fvck the haters!


the fvcktard is a waste of time, so in his village thought process, peeps that murder people that don't agree with there phoolish ideologies including great scholar of there own faith, can be compared to a pressure group used in resisting white supremacy in a university. pray, tell me why pointb should not be cut to pieces and fed with his own flesh.

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Re: 'you're A Cultist' - Former Borno Governor Replies Soyinka by PointB: 6:28pm On Sep 15, 2014
shymexx:

You can feign ignorance all you want, and postulate whatever hypothesis, to find a link where there's none. However, that doesn't negate the fact that there's absolutely no correlation between the two.

1). Whatever fraternity Wole Soyinka created, started off as a fraternity, and has remained a fraternity - without any record whatsoever of extremism associated with what cultism is about. However, Yusuf started his Boko Haram as a religious cult with extremism and, from the get-go sectarianism has been the objective, albeit it has moved to insurgency now.

2). Also, like someone posited on the first page: the ideals of what Wole Soyinka created were for: against ethnicity, humanistic ideals, and comradeship and chivarly. However, what Yusuf created, even based on its name "Boko Haram" was against everything western - and waging a jihad based on extremism against that. Hence after he died, the doctrine of the group today is based on the Yusufiyya doctrine - which is pure religious extremism.

Learn to respect your heroes while they're alive. They won't live forever! Wole Soyinka is the greatest Nigerian ever - fvck the haters!

1. It's a big lie. What Wole Soyinka started in our higher institution is what is now known as a secret cult. It still bears the name Pyrate Confraternity, but the ideals are now brutish and bloody! Boko Haram was never the name of the group Yusuf started, and it wasn't bloody extremist group, until something snapped! Same a Pyrate Confraternity!

2. Refer to no 1. No point repeating myself simply because you did!


Respecting someone doesn't translate to blind hero worship in my own book. Whatever it is Wole Soyinka has achieved in his lifetime, it does not erase the fact that the Confraternity he founded when he was young and naive, is what has become a monster in our institution. On that note, the learned Soyinka and the ignorant Yusuf converged! Deal with it, hero worshiper!

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Re: 'you're A Cultist' - Former Borno Governor Replies Soyinka by lordsilver: 6:30pm On Sep 15, 2014
oneeast: We have always known the fact that Soyenka was a common cultist who is responsible for the deaths of very many young under graduates and graduates alike. Soyenka does not have moral high ground to accuse nor criticize anybody because his evil introduction to this country is worse than any evil plaguing us today as a country.

In a saner clime Soyenka should be in jail for bringing cultism into Nigerian universities..

Your foolish under graduates and graduates who bath with salt and hot water to prevent Ebola were responsible for their lost by turning Soyinka's org into something else.

Have you ever checked who formed (NBM) a.k.a ?

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Re: 'you're A Cultist' - Former Borno Governor Replies Soyinka by 2cato: 6:31pm On Sep 15, 2014
lordsilver:

So old age is now a crime in my village?? Anyway, I pray i never get old in Allah's name
AMEN
fixed
Re: 'you're A Cultist' - Former Borno Governor Replies Soyinka by Nobody: 6:31pm On Sep 15, 2014
goodslayer:
the fvcktard is a waste of time, so in his village thought process, peeps that murder people that don't agree with there phoolish ideologies including great scholar of there own faith, can be compared to a pressure group used in resisting white supremacy in a university. pray, tell me why pointb should not be cut to pieces and fed with his own flesh.

Lmao...Point-B is notorious for always moving to Point-B where duffers go, when higher minds go to Point-A. I'll stop replying his posts.

Anyway, I blame whoever gave this marauding illiterate Northern raghead and camel jockey, stuck in the 12th century airtime to talk. That's what happens when savages and sane people are allowed to co-exist in the same space. undecided

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Re: 'you're A Cultist' - Former Borno Governor Replies Soyinka by PointB: 6:32pm On Sep 15, 2014
goodslayer:


the fvcktard is a waste of time, so in his village thought process, peeps that murder people that don't agree with there phoolish ideologies including great scholar of there own faith, can be compared to a pressure group used in resisting white supremacy in a university. pray, tell me why pointb should not be cut to pieces and fed with his own flesh.

I can assure you are not the only one who desire a pound of PointB's flesh. But I must remind you yet again, while you wait in the long and growing queue, that "the lion's liver is a vain wish for dogs!"

Perish the thought or perish with it!

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Re: 'you're A Cultist' - Former Borno Governor Replies Soyinka by Awoofawo(m): 6:32pm On Sep 15, 2014
ba7man: Seriously, s7upidity is very rampant and high in this Country and they wear it with pride.

With all the information available on the reason why Wole Soyinka started a Fraternity (Which a lot of foreign institutions also have).....(Also somthing I've known since I was like 8yrs old), some people still choose to wallow in the mud of s7upidy since they've chosen to align with it.

Uncle Wole started with good intention but his brain-child was hijacked by some bad elements from across the niger cool grin with cheat beating syndrome cool
Re: 'you're A Cultist' - Former Borno Governor Replies Soyinka by EbolaParasite: 6:37pm On Sep 15, 2014
PointB:

We can make similar argument for Sherrif in his sponsorship of Boko Haram:

We all know that Boko Haram is the nickname in the Hausa language for the group officially known in Arabic as "Jama'atu Ahlis Sunna Lidda'awati Wal-Jihad" (the People Committed to the Propagation of the Prophet's Teachings and Jihad). It is has also been suggested severally that "the reason Mohammed Yusuf founded Boko Haram appears to be that he saw an opportunity to exploit public outrage at government corruption." The corruption, greed, and other malaise in governance was responsible for the formation of Jama'atu Ahlis Sunna Lidda'awati Wal-Jihad (boko haram), as a tool to confront these problems and perhaps bring people closer to allah through the doctrine. By every standard, these are lofty ideals, until something went wrong!

What went wrong with the ideal behind the formation of Jama'atu Ahlis Sunna Lidda'awati Wal-Jihad (a Confraternity) sponsored by Sherrif, could not be entirely different from the reason for the metamorphosis of the Pirate Confraternity founded by Wole Soyinka. If we can hold Sheriff accountable for sponsoring Boko Haram, Wole Soyinka should not be measured differently!


THREE GBOSA for you. Excellent post!

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Re: 'you're A Cultist' - Former Borno Governor Replies Soyinka by Nobody: 6:39pm On Sep 15, 2014
Thought Wole Soyinka said he isn't interested in politics? ? Yet he's always in the middle of all political crisis, Rivers state crisis he dey, etc.. Even bashes the First lady publicly. . He should change his ways jare and behave like a prof he is

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Re: 'you're A Cultist' - Former Borno Governor Replies Soyinka by EbolaParasite: 6:40pm On Sep 15, 2014
Awoofawo:

Uncle Wole started with good intention but his brain-child was hijacked by some bad elements from across the niger cool grin with cheat beating syndrome cool

Good intention? How do you know that. Do not speak for him. There are I.D.ots around today that are notable people in society that will claim the same. There are ex-cultists that have killed and harrassed students. Now that they have families and hold responsible positions, they all claim they were never cultists.
Re: 'you're A Cultist' - Former Borno Governor Replies Soyinka by Awoofawo(m): 6:41pm On Sep 15, 2014
OrlandoOwoh:
Wole Soyinka and his 6 friends introduced a confraternity, not a cult. I wonder why some of you are so particular about him. Muyiwa Awe, an emeritus professor of Physics in UI, is one of them.

Don't mind them! Even as we talking today there are confraternity groups in USA universities and other learning institutions and all doing well....

The flatee are the main cause of the woes in cults jawe...cool
Re: 'you're A Cultist' - Former Borno Governor Replies Soyinka by lordsilver: 6:48pm On Sep 15, 2014
2cato: AMEN, my head is now
fixed

Do u need to tell us?
Re: 'you're A Cultist' - Former Borno Governor Replies Soyinka by Awoofawo(m): 6:57pm On Sep 15, 2014
EbolaParasite:

Good intention? How do you know that. Do not speak for him. There are I.D.ots around today that are notable people in society that will claim the same. There are ex-cultists that have killed and harrassed students. Now that they have families and hold responsible positions, they all claim they were never cultists.

Bro got your point of view, but from the accounts heard from older folks, what uncle Wole started is not violence blood thirty fraternity, the source of violence is when a rival faction arise made mostly of certain tribe. cool I no mention name o! cool
Re: 'you're A Cultist' - Former Borno Governor Replies Soyinka by ogbronx(m): 7:03pm On Sep 15, 2014
ba7man: Seriously, s7upidity is very rampant and high in this Country and they wear it with pride.

With all the information available on the reason why Wole Soyinka started a Fraternity (Which a lot of foreign institutions also have).....(Also somthing I've known since I was like 8yrs old), some people still choose to wallow in the mud of s7upidy since they've chosen to align with it.
You are so right bro! ignorance mix with arrogance is disastrous. Most Nigerians just say crap from their mouth.
Re: 'you're A Cultist' - Former Borno Governor Replies Soyinka by PointB: 7:05pm On Sep 15, 2014
EbolaParasite:

THREE GBOSA for you. Excellent post!


Thanks man,

Some people will never admit the fact that Wole Soyinka also live in glass house, and should avoid throwing stone; they won't admit because of ethnicism. Unfortunately these days, tribalism has been intellectualized in an attempt to disguise it from the uninitiated.

Until we begin to call a spade a spade, we'll continue to languish in the vicious cycle!

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Re: 'you're A Cultist' - Former Borno Governor Replies Soyinka by ba7man(m): 7:18pm On Sep 15, 2014
nigerianvenom:

the question is,who started cultism in nigeria?
was it u or soyinka?
everyone has a reason for his action ,even criminals do.so soyinka's decision to introduce such into nigeria doesnt justify the reason dor such act.
Cultism is different from Fraternity.

American universities have fraternities, not cults.

Wole Soyinka introduced Fraternity to Nigerian universities and unscrupulous students turned them to cults.

Learn the difference, you're smarter than this.

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Re: 'you're A Cultist' - Former Borno Governor Replies Soyinka by Nonybb: 7:20pm On Sep 15, 2014
ba7man: The Ex Governor forgot to add "An internationally respected Nobel Laurete and an advocate for a better Nigeria".

Meanwhile, the Ex governor is most likely a looter and conducted the interview in Hausa language.
Lol Hausa man and English are not friends. Both spoken and written
Re: 'you're A Cultist' - Former Borno Governor Replies Soyinka by Younevajam: 7:26pm On Sep 15, 2014
I hold no brief for Modu Sherriff,he openly ate and dined with these Boko guys when the going was good. He can't be absolved of these truths. On the other hand, whenever you do a Scholarship on the origin of Cultism in Nigeria, Soyinka's name pops all over your papers. The two are not saints. In politics everything is thrown in, even the smallest dirt on a person has a lot of propaganda value to his political opponent.
Re: 'you're A Cultist' - Former Borno Governor Replies Soyinka by Ghost01(m): 7:29pm On Sep 15, 2014
2cato: Though common sense which is not always common with the mad OL' profesor No terrorist group will ever mention their sponsors or their benefactors
Methink the blood of over 30,000 young nigeria that was been spilled by the introduction of occultism in our uni and poly has been making the mad O' profesor foo.lish and st.upid.
If you have the least sense you'd know that the moral justification was there for the founding of Pyrate's Confraternity when the white-haired wizard, as a youth, created it. It was a master-servant relationship then, and the oppressed must rise up! So Wole led the "fight!" As for your contemporary cults, what do those ones know? Omode o m'ogun, o n pe l'efo!
Re: 'you're A Cultist' - Former Borno Governor Replies Soyinka by goodslayer: 7:51pm On Sep 15, 2014
PointB:

I can assure you are not the only one who desire a pound of PointB's flesh. But I must remind you yet again, while you wait in the long and growing queue, that "the lion's liver is a vain wish for dogs!"

Perish the thought or perish with it!


stupidity and dumbness are the only skill-set the almighty bless you with. your rare type of mental illness deserve a space in the encyclopedia of mental illness. read my post once again, this time slowly with your artificial coupled brain.
Re: 'you're A Cultist' - Former Borno Governor Replies Soyinka by Ghost01(m): 7:51pm On Sep 15, 2014
MarvellousGod: Thought Wole Soyinka said he isn't interested in politics? ? Yet he's always in the middle of all political crisis, Rivers state crisis he dey, etc.. Even bashes the First lady publicly. . He should change his ways jare and behave like a prof he is
He's a moral authority, "everyone" expects him to talk, to comment. And come to think of it, he's the only one left standing.

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